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Re: Belief in the theory of Planet X: Discussion around the world
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2013, 04:51:25 AM »
MrSmith Re Carlos Munoz Ferrada, who you posted about.
I just happened to see this zetatalk article when I was doing another search for him. BTW I think I had posted somewhere on the boards about him, before the Zetatalk article.
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http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2013.htm   ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for August 31, 2013

A video about Carlos Muñoz Ferrada prediction and prophecy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJJ0N-Qq3CI  This is a Herculobus prophet but is 90 years old at the time, the video apparently from 1999 as he died in 2001 at the age of 92. An astronomer of record located objects before others, predicted Haley's orbit change which others had not foreseen, predicted earthquakes, several of them, with great accuracy. Seems to be a genuine prophet. The Zetas  have already spoken about Herculobus and many others who are NOT a valid prophet claim that prediction. Just like the ZetaTalk ripoff artists who plagiarize. This guy is the origin, I think. [and from another] http://invocacion2012.bligoo.cl/nostradamus-profecia-del-hercolubus  The star Hercólubus already been detected by the Earth Science, although almost all scientists have hidden.

In the Channel 4 television Puerto Rico, on June 28, 1999, Mr. Carlos Muñoz Ferrada, renowned astronomer, scientist seismologist and Chile, announced the features of this "Comet Planet":
 1st. - It elliptical orbit as comet mass as a planet, or a planet with a tail.
 2nd. - Is about cosmic energy loaded.
 3rd. - Does not meet established celestial laws.
 4th. - Travel between our Sun and a Sun Black that is 32 trillion kilometers
 5th. - Will pass 14 million kilometers from Earth.
 6th. - Will end by entering our solar system and can be seen with the naked eye and photographed.
 7th. - His arrival will cause a human and geophysical change, bringing change and destruction (it is said that only 10% of humanity will survive). [and from another]

http://www.elsalvador.com/noticias/2001/11/30/NACIONAL/nacio1.html 

The famous astronomer, scientist and self-taught seismologist, died in October 2001 in Villa Alemana tranquilla of Vina del Mar in Chile, at age 92, following a lung disease. [and from another]

http://www.mercuriovalpo.cl/site/edic/20011017205126/pags/20011018004856.html 

In our country there have been only three people who have the privilege of having announced the accurate prediction of large earthquakes and destructive earthquakes with numerous casualties and damage: they are the Captain Middleton and Officer Nuño, the Hydrographic Institute of the Navy of Chile, for the great earthquake of 1906, and the scholar Carlos Muñoz Ferrada for Chillán earthquake of 1939, with 40 000 deaths.

[and from another] http://planetexhercolubusnibiruprophetieovni.blogspot.com/2012/03/lastronome-carlos-munoz-ferrada-et-la.html  March 23, 2012

The first news of the [approach] an intruder planet in our solar system, from the Chilean astronomer Ferrada Carlos Muñoz (who died in October 2001 at the age of 92 years). On 11 June 1940 he announced to the world the existence of this planet he called "Planet-Comet" because it has the mass of a planet with the orbit of a comet. His astronomical and geophysical predictions made ... him famous. Later he predicted other earthquakes such as the 1945 Ligua and the 1985 Santiago, Chile. He also announced the trajectory and suffer disruption of Halley's comet, changing its speed, which occurred when the Halley walked 36 hours of its orbital period, to 85 kilometers of the Sun, the distance the shortest in history. To explain their observations and predictions, Carlos Muñoz Ferrada developed the theory of geodynamics, which is based on the attractions of the heavenly bodies, large explosions in the Sun and the cycles of geophysical disturbances. With this method he predicted earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, climate change, he discovered new planets and comets, deciphering their trajectories and other features. He had a special gift: the gift to enter into a trance when he was researching and that, in this state, he wrote and drew what he received, and that it gave him much success as enemies throughout his life. He provided us with other data in the television and multiple media:

 - 92 km / s = speed of the planet Hercolubus turning around the Black Sun.
 - 76 km / s = speed of the planet Hercolubus when it revolves around the Sun in the solar system.
 - 300 km / s = speed of the planet Hercolubus halfway two suns.
 - 14,000,000 km = closest to the Earth in the path of the planet Hercolubus Point.
 - 32 billion km = distance from the Sun Black Earth.
 - 300,000 km / s = speed of light. 9 460 800 000 000 m = distance traveled by light in one year.
 This star [will] pass inside the orbit of the Earth with a satellite speed of 66 kilometers per second, and at the same time, on that date, its perihelion only 139,100,000 km from the Sun. In addition, it is also in the scope of probabilities, determining that this new and attractive gigantic cosmic body can [affect] the axis of the Earth with great gravity and geophysical disturbances and even it may affect the attraction field of our satellite Moon. Elliptical Earth's orbit would be parallel to the celestial Equator. Both poles removed at the same time, as in the days of the equinoxes in spring and autumn.

[also]
http://ufopi.freehomepage.com/V2N9.HTM 

Ramatis delivered lectures to standing room only crowds through human instruments like Brazil's Chico Xavier and Luis Muzio. Ramatis discussed the imminent destruction of Earth by an orphan planet named Hercolubus, orbiting an invisible sun named Tila, whose trajectory brought it through the solar system every 6,666 years.

[ and ]
http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/early.htm 

In 1950 a celebrated Brazilian medium named Hercilio Maes channeled a prophecy from his guide Ramatis. Maes predicts that the earth's axis will change through ninety degrees due to the gravitational pull of an enormous new planet which will enter our solar system soon.
We were asked to address the prophecies on Hercolubus, directed through several channels by the entity Ramatis. These individuals, who received the messages at various times over the past century, gave various interpretations which are notable more by their consistency than differences. We have stressed, when asked about valid prophecies that seem to differ on some points, to focus on the similarities, as no communication vehicle is perfect. Chico Xavier, Hercilio Maes, and Carlos Muñoz Ferrada all have channeled Ramatis on Hercolubus, aka Planet X, aka Nibiru. Many other authors and frauds have  also attempted to attach themselves to these channeled works.

 Some misinterpretations that emerged were an orbit period of 6,666, due to Biblical influences. Another is that Hercolubus must be larger than Jupiter, which was an attempt by some channels to explain the size being relayed during passage, when it will loom as large as the Sun in the swirling dust cloud.  Ramatis, using Carlos Muñoz Ferrada, attempted more precision due to Ferrada’s astronomical skills. Reknowned for his ability to predict a major earthquakes in Chile and for his ability to describe a change in the orbit of Haley’s Comet before it occurred, Ferrada got more specific. Nevertheless, his message as received is not 100% accurate.

 ZetaTalk is a telepathic conversation. There is feedback where Nancy relays what she has understood, and we correct the interpretation. Material is repeatedly addressed, over the years, and the readership has noted a remarkable correlation from one piece of ZetaTalk material to another, years later. Consistency is a hallmark of ZetaTalk because of this feedback mechanism. The message is not scrambled. ZetaTalk was accurate enough to pinpoint in 1997 where Planet X, aka Nibiru, would appear in March, 2003 some 6 years later. This prediction was so close to that RA and Dec on arrival that it was astonishing.

 Ferrada worked as a channel, as did others receiving the Ramatis information. A channel allows the entity to use the body and mind, and thus is limited by what the mind of the channel can encompass. Channeled work is thus often vague, or if precise, the precision is inserted later by the channel who is attempting to record the message received. How else to explain differences in channeled work from the same entity? That said, what are the similarities and differences between the Ferrada interpretation and the ZetaTalk message?
[ Zetatalk article continues on some other topics ] http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31ag2013.htm