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Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« on: May 07, 2011, 04:43:04 AM »
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A few ideas I had last night - was posting them but lost them...

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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2011, 05:09:20 AM »
Ok I'm thinking in some cases a tenant might be able to get away with modifying
their apartment or house, if the landlord is indifferent enough, and if it is close enough to the time of the earth changes.
Once radical changes and events start happening who in the world is going to care.
Idea have some of the supplies on hand, sacrifice one bedroom or a porch to put them.

rebar
concrete and mixer
and hand mixer
steel cables to put over the house or apt.
secure these on the base (however they are supposed to be secured. I had the idea of setting them in concrete.)
Rig up shutters on the outside which will not come off
Shutters on the inside you can fasten
Put a layer of rebar reinforced concrete on inside wall of house or apartment.
Fasten the front door so no one can get into it and it will not fly open from the wind.
Leave a couple holes, and set it up so you can cover the holes up from the inside of the door!
The holes are to look out - and fire a gun out of.
Some kind of periscope deal to do topside viewing
Something to cover the viewing aparatus from the inside.
Back door has an area constructed. Several feet out thick layer of bushes and trees all around back door area/ inside of that put barbed wire or other wire enclosure top to bottom. A little gate locks.
If someone was bringing supplies or people there to the back entrance, resident could unlock the gate. Back entrance door has a peep hole and gun hole, too
If nothing but gas or electric heat and the grid is going to go out: Cut a hole in the wall, rig up some fireproofing board on the wall and floor area and set in a wood fireplace. 
Set in some cactus around the perimeter. Inside of that line, some barbed wire ...
More later
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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2012, 12:09:28 PM »
http://www.bepreparedtosurvive.com/Finding%20Space%20for%20a%20Food%20Pantry%20and%20Emergency%20Supplies.htm 

Finding Space for a Food Pantry and Emergency Supplies

By John D. McCann
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As we know, it is important to have a food pantry with extra food in the home in the event of an emergency.  It is also important to store other emergency supplies in an area where you can get to them when you need them.

Our primary pantry is in our cellar which is fairly large.  This is where the majority of our food is stored (including water, wine, and paper goods).  This would include lots of various macaroni (which my wife, Denise, and I both love), canned food, freeze dried food, and five gal. buckets with Gamma seal lids.  These buckets contain things like rice, flour, salt, sugar, and various other things.

However, being in the far corner of the cellar, our primary pantry is a ways from the kitchen.  We have a cellar staircase just off the kitchen which is against an outside wall.  We used this area to store some emergency supplies, 1st aid supplies, etc.  But there weren't really any shelves and it wasn't organized (which I'm never happy about).  I kept looking at this area and decided I could build a shelving unit at the angle of the stairs, and still have room for plenty of supplies.  At the top by the door, I could build the shelves a little deeper and make room (organized room) for some of the emergency supplies and 1st Aid kit.

When food comes into the house, unless it is for immediate use in the kitchen, it is dated and stored in the primary pantry.  The primary pantry now supplies the secondary pantry at the top of the stairs, which serves the kitchen..  Not really as complicated as it sounds.

Anyway, here are some photos of what I built.  It works well for our needs.

Yowbarb Note:  Here is one photo from John D. McCann more on page.
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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2012, 03:17:41 PM »
Barb, Yes, that is certainly a perfect set-up for steps going down to the basement, we have one similar here, though not nearly as neat and organized!! 
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  It is also important to store other emergency supplies in an area where you can get to them when you need them.

And when I read that statement, I had to chuckle and share a little funny recent experience  with everyone, that my husband had to learn the hard way this past week.  It never occurred to him that it probably wasn't a good idea to store the generator to use during power outages, in the garage with the electric garage door opener! ??? ;D Needless to say, it wasn't much fun for him in the pouring rain and heavy winds to have to climb in the window!!  Well, atleast, thank heavens there was a window ;D   

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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 08:31:11 AM »
Barb, Yes, that is certainly a perfect set-up for steps going down to the basement, we have one similar here, though not nearly as neat and organized!! 
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  It is also important to store other emergency supplies in an area where you can get to them when you need them.

And when I read that statement, I had to chuckle and share a little funny recent experience  with everyone, that my husband had to learn the hard way this past week.  It never occurred to him that it probably wasn't a good idea to store the generator to use during power outages, in the garage with the electric garage door opener! ??? ;D Needless to say, it wasn't much fun for him in the pouring rain and heavy winds to have to climb in the window!!  Well, atleast, thank heavens there was a window ;D


Thanks for sharing the wise words of guidance and tip! I might not have thought about that myself!  ???Poor hubby!  :)

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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 05:46:15 PM »
I ran across this today and there are a few good ideas in this article.  A couple of thoughts on this... (1)  I was thinking of planning a future vacation to a lakeside town outside of Guadalajara, Mexico as it was in the top 5 best/cheapest places to retire.  Not so much now.  (2)  Strange gun laws.  Civilians can't carry anything bigger than a .38???  That sucks.  All of my guns would be illegal down there!   ;D
 
http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/real-life-perspective-how-to-survive-when-danger-is-right-outside-of-your-front-door_04182013
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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2013, 06:53:49 PM »
I ran across this today and there are a few good ideas in this article.  A couple of thoughts on this... (1)  I was thinking of planning a future vacation to a lakeside town outside of Guadalajara, Mexico as it was in the top 5 best/cheapest places to retire.  Not so much now.  (2)  Strange gun laws.  Civilians can't carry anything bigger than a .38???  That sucks.  All of my guns would be illegal down there!   ;D
 
http://www.shtfplan.com/emergency-preparedness/real-life-perspective-how-to-survive-when-danger-is-right-outside-of-your-front-door_04182013

JKB, I hear that. Who needs an environment where you can't have guns to protect your family...
You wouldn't think it would be that way there...
I guess the MX mafia has spoiled it for the rest of us...
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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 05:52:05 PM »
Survivors of the Bosnian War, in cities that were under siege, stated the first homes to be ransacked and looted were the ones with 'security bars' on their windows. When people get desperate they will first attack homes that appear to be trying to hide/defend something!
Your chances for survival will usually be reduced to almost nothing if you are, in any way, in contact with the 'desperate'.

It has been said that people will become incredibly ingenious when they must to survive - imagine a zombie hoard of 'MacGyvers'!!!

Just a couple things to think about when planning to improve the security of your home.

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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2013, 06:10:32 PM »
Survivors of the Bosnian War, in cities that were under siege, stated the first homes to be ransacked and looted were the ones with 'security bars' on their windows. When people get desperate they will first attack homes that appear to be trying to hide/defend something!
Your chances for survival will usually be reduced to almost nothing if you are, in any way, in contact with the 'desperate'.

It has been said that people will become incredibly ingenious when they must to survive - imagine a zombie hoard of 'MacGyvers'!!!

Just a couple things to think about when planning to improve the security of your home.

Thanks for sharing that insightful information Lancer87!  It sure makes sense to me, though I don't know that I would have thought of that specifically, I can say that I have always tried to maintain just a basic "low profile".  At first, my reason for doing so was to hopefully avoid a property tax increase.  Then, as I became more and more awakened, I decided to just let the outside of the house keep on looking like it needed a make-over in the worst way, but that the owner must be too poor to do anything about it!  The exact opposite of "keeping up with the Jones's", but hey, I was never much one to go along with the mainstream anyway, always liked to dance to the beat of my own drum, if you know what I mean!  Thanks so much for posting, and Welcome to The Town Hall!

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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2013, 05:32:07 PM »
Survivors of the Bosnian War, in cities that were under siege, stated the first homes to be ransacked and looted were the ones with 'security bars' on their windows. When people get desperate they will first attack homes that appear to be trying to hide/defend something!
Your chances for survival will usually be reduced to almost nothing if you are, in any way, in contact with the 'desperate'.

It has been said that people will become incredibly ingenious when they must to survive - imagine a zombie hoard of 'MacGyvers'!!!

Just a couple things to think about when planning to improve the security of your home.

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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2014, 01:32:48 PM »
Yowbarb Note:

Here's a blog in a great site, permies  http://www.permies.com/

One of the main authors, Paul
Wheaton is an expert in several areas of agriculture and survival. He was one of the main presenters at the recent Survival Summit.  In this discussion there are some tips on low cost building and getting around codes etc. I will post more as I find it.
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http://www.permies.com/

http://www.permies.com/t/5405/green-building/building-codes-shotcrete-retaining-walls

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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2016, 10:44:19 PM »
http://www.endtimesreport.com/Surviving_in_the_City.html

Surviving in the City

This article is from Christopher Parrett's book, "The LDS Preparedness Manual" which is posted for free downloading to any and all at http://www.abysmal.com/LDS/Preparedness/  The author also has a web site at www.anothervoiceofwarning.org  The article has been around since Y2K days and is still relevant.

(See counterpoint below)  And for a different viewpoint from that, see Guest Submissions.
 
Introduction
While we all want to do our best to prepare for a coming crisis, and many of us realize the city is perhaps the worst place to live, very few people are really prepared to pack up the old Winnebago and head for the hills. Most Americans, whether they're aware or not, are going to stay in the cities.


This is not a hasty decision for most people. Most of us depend on the city for our livelihood, and we can be better prepared by continuing to live in the city, earn a good income, and make preparations for exiting the city at the appropriate time or by staying in the city and living off existing supplies.


This special report explains some of the most critical dangers of living in a city and presents some solutions to surviving them. If you are one of the people who has decided to stay in the city, you'll benefit greatly from this information.

Cities are artificial
Every city is an artificial construct. Cities formed as people came together to conduct business, participate in social interaction, and benefit from efficiencies in public services (such as schools, sewers, water, etc.) and a common defense. Yet cities cannot survive alone. They need resources from the country; most notably, food, water and electricity. While electricity and water can sometimes be created or found within city limits, the acreage requirements of food dictate that no city could possibly feed its own people.

Read that last phrase carefully: No city can feed its own people. Not one. Cities are, by their very nature, dependent on the importation of food. The advent of just-in-time delivery systems to our grocery stores means that most cities would run out of food within a week if supplies were for some reason disrupted.

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Re: Some miscellaneous ideas on surviving in place
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2017, 05:20:12 PM »
This looks like a good article ..

Why you shouldn’t try to escape America to avoid the coming collapse (and subsequent chaos)


http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-07-14-why-you-shouldnt-try-to-escape-america-to-avoid-the-coming-collapse-and-subsequent-chaos.html

Why you shouldn’t try to escape America to avoid the coming collapse (and subsequent chaos)

Friday, July 14, 2017 by: Mike Adams   

(Natural News) With the signs of economic collapse, political turmoil and social chaos becoming more apparent to almost everyone, many people are asking, “Should I leave my home country” and try to escape to some other nation?

As someone who has lived in Taiwan and Ecuador — and traveled throughout much of the world — my answer is now “no.” You can’t escape the global chaos that’s coming, and it’s far more important to live in a place where you fit in and aren’t considered the “foreigner.”

Cities will become death traps

It’s also important to get out of the cities, which I’ve called “death traps.” The cities will be the front lines of social chaos once the government food stamp program (SNAP) is unable to provide free food for almost 50 million people. Some cities will likely be abandoned by law enforcement and allowed to descend into chaos. These cities may include Baltimore, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, St. Louis, Miami and Detroit.

You are far safer in rural California (or rural Oregon, rural Idaho, rural Kentucky or rural Ohio) than in any foreign country where you are easily recognizable as the foreigner, in my opinion.

After living in many places around the world, I’ve chosen Texas as my country. In Texas, I can grow food, own some land, defend myself with firearms, pay lower taxes, run a business with relatively little government interference and afford the cost of living. If you’re considering Texas, my only warning is don’t come to Texas unless you believe in liberty. Big Government socialists are not welcome in Texas, so if that’s your political belief system, please stay in Collapsifornia. If you don’t own guns and gold, in other words, you probably won’t fit in. If you hate God, America, the Constitution and the Founding Fathers, you aren’t compatible with Texas culture anyway.

Watch my video to learn more — note the firearm I always wear on my hip — and stay informed about accelerating collapse conditions at Collapse.news and Bugout.news.

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