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Bartering List For Aftertimes
« on: October 19, 2010, 10:15:38 AM »
List for Aftertimes Bartering Items.
Medical supplies, food, batteries, booze, tarps, rope will all be good items to have extras of. How about some more ideas for a bartering list for the aftertimes.

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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 10:55:40 AM »
Will get back to this later,, about my work time. The best items for barter, will depend on your location. Mountains, country or rural areas, small town, or big city. And depends on if it's a world shaking disaster, a  full blown crash, or in present times.
Different people have different needs and wants.
At any time or place, people love fresh veggies,,,, have a large garden,,,




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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 09:16:43 PM »
Getting back to this.. took off work early cause I hate my job,,,
As I mentioned, different people have different needs, depending on the situation.
When a disaster is looming on the horizon, people tend to buy survival items, tho unless a disaster has already happened, such items can be bought in stores.  But since we are here, and planning on the aftermath of a disaster, I guess thoughts will lean that way.
A country person probably has several kerosene lamps, so they may need kerosene, where as a city person may not. A city person may be interested more in candles and batteries for a flashlight.
A country person may need seeds for a garden, and a city person may want the veggies without the garden.
A country person may need hoes, axes, picks, canning jars and lids. A city person will probably want gas to get to the country.
A country person may want hunting ammo, and a city person may want handgun ammo.
In the aftermath of a disaster, like a solar storm, people will run out of everyday items, or in the case of PX, people may have very little to nothing, so the basic necessities will be on the top of their list.
Food will always be number one, along with water. This may be seeds to some, or actual food to others.
A way to cook food will be needed by those who have nothing.
Tents for shelter are always a good item, along with tarps as Susan mentioned. Blankets, sleeping bags, mats makes cold weather a bit more bearable.
Medicine is always good for barter in disasters. With all of the diseases that will abound, antibiotics will be very valuable.
Antacids, aspirin, or Tylenol for people who can't take aspirin, will be in great demand.
If your in an area where militia type people are,  surplus military gear, ammo for AKs, ARs, 45 and 9mm ammo will be great to have.
Knowledge,,, have lots of survival and how to books, Not for sale, but to have answers on survival and how to questions.
This will keep people coming back, and hopefully do more business. Or trade your knowledge for items.
This isn't a list of items to have, just a note to plan your bartering on the type of people you plan to be around, and the area you are going to be in.
Hope this helps someone in their planning.







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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2010, 10:01:01 AM »
Needles and threads, multiple uses for them, extra lighters/matches

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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2010, 11:09:13 AM »
One thing I have never saw mentioned anywhere, is water containers. These will be a must have item.
Start saving your 1 and  2 liter soda bottles... after using the soda, these will be "free" so to speak, and will make great barter items. Make some homemade shoulder straps to carry them with (or buy some made for this purpose),or barter as is.
I know there are a lot of these around, but how many thirsty people during Katrina or other disasters had water containers? Other than the water bottles the government was handing out that is...


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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 10:36:01 AM »
Curing salt, which is different, is good. Also, coffee, and toilet paper, are luxuries most folks don't want to live without. Packaged dairy creamers, and sugar in packets and sugar substitutes might be good, also. P38 can openers(military) are always a good thing to have. We carried them on our dogtag chains. They are a great small thing to have.  ed

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 01:49:06 PM »
Air Mattresses and Pumps
Alcohol
Ammo
Art supplies
Aspirin small dose for heart
Aspirin whole dose for heart pain
Axe/Adz

Baby bed
Baby bottles
Baby bottles of juice, ready to drink
Baby blankets
Baby carrier sling
Baby clothes
Baby diapers
Baby food
Baby formula
Baby meds/fever reducer
Baby water
Baby waterproof pads
Baby wipes
Backpacks
Baskets
Bath Soap
Bath tub, galvanized about 2 ½ feet diameter/waterproof mat/small pallet to put on
Batteries
Beehives (see queen bees)
Beer Making kit
Benedryl capsules
Beverage creamers and sugars, small packets
Blankets, cotton thermal
Blankets, wool
Bleach
Books, childrens
Books - cooking
Books, educational, history, etc.
Books, fiction
Books, songs
Boots

Can openers
Can openers, P38 military type
Canned goods
Candles
Candle making kit, can, candles and wicks
Canning jars, supplies and instructions
Cards - deck of
Cat food
Chains
Chairs, small folding
Chapsticks
Chicks (baby chickens)
Childbirth kit
Cigarettes, cartons/matches
Cigarette pack case
Clothing of assorted sizes
Coffee
Coffee Pot, percolator type
Containers, all types and sizes
Cooking oil
Curing salt

Dental floss
Dishes - tin campground type/tin cups eating utensils included
Disinfectant cleaner
Document box, small and portable – waterproof – OR -
Document file, small and portable - waterproof
Dog food
Duct tape
Eggs, fresh
Eyeglasses assorted strengths
Electric tape
Flashlights
Food,  hot meal - or -
Food, MREs or cans to take with. 
First-aid kit
Food cooler boxes
Fuel, gas, diesel, kerosene

Games - boardgames
Gas masks
Gloves, workgloves
Goat milk, fresh
Goats to go, young weaned billy and milk goat   
Goggles
Grains

Hairbrushes and combs
Hammers
Hand lotions
Hand hatchet
Hen, fertile to go
Herbs (dried medicinal)

Ice cream maker
Identification holder, plastic
Ice skates
Insect repellent

Jokebook
Jump ropes

Knitting kit and yarn
Knitting needles
Knives

Lamp oil
Lantern, propane
Lantern fuel, propane for Coleman - type lantern
Lard/Tallow
Laundry bucket,
Laundry kit:  Bucket, galvanized steel; large/hand laundry bar/soap holder/scrubber/clothesline/pins
Laundry detergent, environmentally friendly type
Lice medicine
Lighters

Machetes
Manuals - How To, survival
Manure
Maps
Matches
Medicines
Mill (hand crank)
Motor oil 
Nails for construction
Nail trimmer kits
Nose cover - protective

Oil lamps
Paper - writing
Patterns
Penicillin
pens
Peroxide
Pets - kitten, puppy etc. to take with
Pet Food
Pet Meds
Pipe tobacco/matches
Pipes
Plant food
Plants - small containers of plants/ berries/ herbs/tomatoes/other foods/ label identifying each
Plants, jars with potatoes, avocadoes,  etc. growing
Playpens
Pot - big iron pot
Pully

Quarantine Instruction manual and kit
Queen bee and drones
Quiltmaking supplies
Quilts

Rabbits
Rifles - for the honest folk passing though
Roosters (along with the hen and chicks)
Rope
Ruler, foot long 

"S" hooks and other irons
Salt
Sandpaper
Sanitary pads
Saw
Scissors
Seeds
Sewing kit
Shampoo
Sharpening stones
Sharpening tools for knives, scissors
Shoelaces
Shovels
Shoes
Skillet - iron with metal spatula
Skin lotion
Skins (buck, antelope, elk, bovine, etc)
Sleeping bags
Snowshoes
Snow chains
Soap
Sourdough starter in a plastic bowl with cheesecloth secured over it,
Spices
Sprouts, growing
Sprouts, small container and seeds
String
Sugar
Suitcases
Sunglasses
Sunscreen

Tables, small folding - chairs
Tarps
Tea/Coffee
Tea Tree Oil
Tents
Tent pegs, mallets
Tobacco, loose leaf
Tobacco rolling papers
Toilet paper
Toothbrushes, toothpastes
Toys
Trees, small - growing in containers
Tripod for cooking and water boiling over a fire
Twinage

Udder care kit (goats, cows)
Underwear, children's, men's, women's

Vaporizer kit, battery - operated
Vehicle maintnence supplies
Vines, grape etc.
Volleyballs
Volleyball, net kits

Wagons
Washcloths
Washpan kit, campground-type - including soap and and campground mirror
Water cups, tin, campgound type
Water, canned survival supply
Water, barrel of
WD-40
Weapons
Whiskey
Wine
Wooden pallets
Wood - small bundle of firewood, tinder paper and matches

Xylophone and mallets

Yardstick
Yard goods (materials to make clothing)
Yogurt starter
Zapper (reference Huldra /clark book)
Zest - small cheesecloth packet of herbs and spices, tied with a small twine, cooking

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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2011, 09:40:47 AM »
  I was the one who got my Grandmothers old Treadle Sewing Machine. I had many fun hours being her power when she would sew long strips together for blankets. A tool that would be needed if we go all natural in our living methods.
 Getting any hand powered tools are good to have in the kitchen and the barn{{:>)
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It is what you do with what you know!!

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2011, 11:03:29 AM »
You can find treadles at antique shops...they run about $150 for a working one (out here in the midwest).   You can still get belts and parts for Singers.   I have a Singer treadle and an old electric Necchi that can be converted to treadle power.   I use them all the time and they sew better than modern sewing machines.   Definately worth the investment incase electricity becomes a thing of the past....

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 12:26:15 PM »
Without explaining all of the scientific stuff, there is no guarantee that there will be electric, with solar panels, due to EMP events.  ed

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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2011, 12:20:35 PM »
More exercise -  I for one could use it ((alas, typing at this does not help me keep a grip on my "love handles"))  Cranking may be for our good (why do hamsters run on a wheel?)  ---oops am rambling...  (thought about "hamster powered charging for a second... zzzz  ROFL)

Maybe bicycles inside the compound for pedal power - everyone takes a turn there for exercise, eh?

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2011, 07:52:57 PM »
Today from http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalfood41.htm :

[start extract]
Why is George Soros selling gold and buying farmland?

Food prices are skyrocketing all across the globe, and there's no end in sight.

The United Nations says food inflation is currently at 30% a year, and the fast-eroding value of the dollar is causing food prices to appear even higher (in contrast to a weakening currency). As the dollar drops in value due to runaway money printing at the Federal Reserve, the cost to import foods from other nations looks to double in just the next two years - and possibly every two years thereafter.

That's probably why investors around the globe are flocking to farmland as the new growth industry.
...

Lessons from post World War II Taiwan and why food is more valuable than gold

I lived in Taiwan for two years, and I've had the opportunity to talk with people there who lived through the post World War II recovery.

During the war, of course, Taiwan was occupied by the imperialist Japanese empire, and Taiwan existed in a state of military occupation (with perpetual martial law).

After the war ended and the Japanese left, Taiwan bootstrapped its own government into power under Chiang Kai-shek. The old Taiwan currency was immediately printed in large quantities by the Taiwan government leading to a runaway inflation scenario for what is now called the "old Taiwan dollar."

Very quickly, however, the government launched a new currency called the New Taiwan dollar (NT$). By 1949, the old Taiwan dollar was being exchanged for the New Taiwan dollar (NT$) at a ratio of 40,000 to 1. (Yep. You had $40,000 and now it's worth a buck...).

During those years after WWII, if you wanted to rent an apartment, buy a house or find a place to live, cash was worthless and even GOLD wasn't considered very useful. The only thing that represented real wealth was FOOD. If you had food, you could trade it for anything: an automobile, a home, tools, clothing or even land. If you didn't have food, you were bankrupt; regardless of how much cash or gold you had.

A chicken that could lay eggs was worth more than an ounce of gold!

You can't eat gold, folks. And you can't eat silver. Everybody has to eat to stay alive, and that means everybody needs a constant stream of food just to keep breathing.

That's why investing in food makes so much sense.

And by "investing in food," I mean any or all of the following:

        Investing in storable food that you can save on the shelf and keep for future use or barter.

        Investing in your own gardening skills so that you have the know-how to produce food when needed.

        Investing in non-hybrid garden seeds so that you have the genetic blueprints to grow food that can propagate itself generation after generation.

        Investing in farmland - especially farmland with water - that offers the fertility and climate to produce food.

        Investing in educational courses that teach you how to create food through a variety of methods: Wildcrafting, gardening, sprouting and so on.
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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2011, 08:16:49 PM »
Do not forget the salt,

This article is about common table salt. For other uses, see Salt (disambiguation).

Table salt (NaCl) crystal

The salt works north of Pondicherry, India.
Salt, also known as table salt, or rock salt, is a mineral that is composed primarily of sodium chloride (NaCl), a chemical compound belonging to the larger class of ionic salts. It is essential for animal life in small quantities, but is harmful to animals and plants in excess. Salt is one of the oldest, most ubiquitous food seasonings and salting is an important method of food preservation.


Main article: History of salt

While people have used canning and artificial refrigeration to preserve food for the last hundred years or so, salt has been the best-known food preservative, especially for meat, for many thousands of years.[8] A very ancient saltworks operation has been discovered at the Poiana Slatinei archaeological site next to a salt spring in Lunca, Neamţ County, Romania. Evidence indicates that Neolithic people of the Precucuteni Culture were boiling the salt-laden spring water through the process of briquetage to extract the salt as far back as 6050 BC.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt

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Re: Bartering List For Aftertimes
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 11:03:21 AM »
Curing salt, which is different, is good. Also, coffee, and toilet paper, are luxuries most folks don't want to live without. Packaged dairy creamers, and sugar in packets and sugar substitutes might be good, also. P38 can openers(military) are always a good thing to have. We carried them on our dogtag chains. They are a great small thing to have.  ed

Belated reply to your idea. Curing salt is a great addition to the alphabetized list.
Adding that updated list, next post. Curing salt is something I have never needed to use, and now seeing
it could be a total necessity in future times.
Realizing curing salt recipes for fish and game are a necessity in Survival Recipes, so you will see some of
them there soon.
- Yowbarb

 

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"Curing salt contains salt, sodium nitrite, glycerin and FD&C #3 used to color cure accordance with
MDI Bulletin 656 of 1974. Never taste straight or eat on its own!

At these lower temperatures food is said to be in or near the “danger zone” where bacteria are
most able to growing. Curing salt prevents this from happening and creates a safe product to be
enjoyed. Curing salt is also a common ingredient in the preparation of corned beef."

Trout in curing salt:


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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2011, 11:19:31 AM »
Air Mattresses and Pumps
Alcohol
Ammo
Art supplies
Aspirin small dose for heart
Aspirin whole dose for heart pain
Axe/Adz

Baby bed
Baby bottles
Baby bottles of juice, ready to drink
Baby blankets
Baby carrier sling
Baby clothes
Baby diapers
Baby food
Baby formula
Baby meds/fever reducer
Baby water
Baby waterproof pads
Baby wipes
Backpacks
Baskets
Bath Soap
Bath tub, galvanized about 2 ½ feet diameter/waterproof mat/small pallet to put on
Batteries
Beehives (see queen bees)
Beer Making kit
Benedryl capsules
Beverage creamers and sugars, small packets
Blankets, cotton thermal
Blankets, wool
Bleach
Books, children's'
Books - cooking
Books, educational, history, etc.
Books, fiction
Books, songs
Boots

Can openers
Can openers, P38 military type
Canned goods
Candles
Candle making kit, can, candles and wicks
Canning jars, supplies and instructions
Cards - deck of
Cat food
Chains
Chairs, small folding
Chapsticks
Chicks (baby chickens)
Childbirth kit
Cigarettes, cartons/matches
Cigarette pack case
Clothing of assorted sizes
Coffee
Coffee Pot, percolator type
Containers, all types and sizes
Cooking oil
Curing salt

Dental floss
Dishes - tin campground type/tin cups eating utensils included
Disinfectant cleaner
Document box, small and portable – waterproof – OR -
Document file, small and portable - waterproof
Dog food
Duct tape
Eggs, fresh
Eyeglasses assorted strengths
Electric tape
Flashlights
Food,  hot meal - or -
Food, MREs or cans to take with. 
First-aid kit
Food cooler boxes
Fuel, gas, diesel, kerosene

Games - boardgames
Gas masks
Gloves, workgloves
Goat milk, fresh
Goats to go, young weaned billy and milk goat   
Goggles
Grains

Hairbrushes and combs
Hammers
Hand lotions
Hand hatchet
Hen, fertile to go
Herbs (dried medicinal)

Ice cream maker
Identification holder, plastic
Ice skates
Insect repellent

Jokebook
Jump ropes

Knitting kit and yarn
Knitting needles
Knives

Lamp oil
Lantern, propane
Lantern fuel, propane for Coleman - type lantern
Lard/Tallow
Laundry bucket,
Laundry kit:  Bucket, galvanized steel; large/hand laundry bar/soap holder/scrubber/clothesline/pins
Laundry detergent, environmentally friendly type
Lice medicine
Lighters

Machetes
Manuals - How - To, survival
Manure
Maps
Matches
Medicines
Mill (hand crank)
Motor oil 
Nails for construction
Nail trimmer kits
Nose cover - protective

Oil lamps
Paper - writing
Patterns
Penicillin
pens
Peroxide
Pets - kitten, puppy etc. 
Pet Food
Pet Meds
Pipe tobacco/matches
Pipes
Plant food
Plant containers
Plants - small containers of plants/ berries/ herbs/tomatoes/other foods/ label identifying each
Plants, jars with potatoes, avocados,  etc. growing in them already
Playpens
Pot - big iron pot
Pulley

Quarantine Instruction manual and kit
Queen bee and drones
Quilt making supplies
Quilts

Rabbits
Rifles - for the honest folk passing though
Roosters (along with the hen and chicks)
Rope
Ruler, foot long 

"S" hooks and other irons
Salt, cooking
Salt, curing
Sandpaper
Sanitary pads
Saw
Scissors
Seeds
Sewing kit
Shampoo
Sharpening stones
Sharpening tools for knives, scissors
Shoelaces
Shovels
Shoes
Skillet - iron with metal spatula
Skin lotion
Skins (buck, antelope, elk, bovine, etc)
Sleeping bags
Snowshoes
Snow chains
Soap
Sourdough starter in a plastic bowl with cheesecloth secured over it,
Spices
Sprouts, growing
Sprouts, small container and seeds
String
Sugar
Suitcases
Sunglasses
Sunscreen

Tables, small folding - chairs
Tarps
Tea/Coffee
Tea Tree Oil
Tents
Tent pegs, mallets
Tobacco, loose leaf
Tobacco rolling papers
Toilet paper
Toothbrushes, toothpastes
Toys
Trees, small - growing in containers
Tripod for cooking and water boiling over a fire
Twinage

Udder care kit (goats, cows)
Underwear, children's, men's, women's

Vaporizer kit, battery - operated
Vehicle maintenance supplies
Vines, grape etc.
Volleyballs
Volleyball, net kits

Wagons
Washcloths
Washpan kit, campground - type, including soap and and campground mirror
Water cups, tin, campground type
Water, canned survival supply
Water, barrel of
WD-40
Weapons
Whiskey
Wine
Wooden pallets
Wood - small bundle of firewood, tinder paper and matches

Xylophone and mallets

Yardstick
Yard goods (materials to make clothing)
Yogurt starter
Zapper (reference Hulda Clark book)
Zest - small cheesecloth packet of herbs and spices, tied with a small twine, cooking

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