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Well... We found a Well...
« on: July 19, 2011, 07:11:18 PM »
So We have lived here for just about a year now and have hiked all over the property...EXCEPT where its heavy with brambles. My son decided to come on up from Alabama and see whats going to happen. He decided to go check out the brambled area and came back with pics of....A WELL...A very open one...
We planned to put one in but WOW the last owners did not know it was there either LOL.
Now I dont know beans about wells....Today we bought a pump and tried to empty the water out so we could clean it. We pumped 9 gallons a minute for 15 min and YOU COULD NOT TELL! We could not make the water level go down even 1 fraction of an inch! It hasnt rained here in days so its not runnoff...
So I am guessing its a good well...but How do I clean it? What else do we need to know? Do I have to report it or can I keep it private being the previous owners didnt even know it was here...How do I cover it and run it up to the camp location (about 150ft)....yea yea I know how DID you miss it? It is really thick in those woods!

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2011, 07:23:49 PM »
For all things water!!!! you can watch  this lovely video and learn HOW water works!
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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2011, 07:44:10 PM »
So We have lived here for just about a year now and have hiked all over the property...EXCEPT where its heavy with brambles. My son decided to come on up from Alabama and see whats going to happen. He decided to go check out the brambled area and came back with pics of....A WELL...A very open one...
We planned to put one in but WOW the last owners did not know it was there either LOL.
Now I dont know beans about wells....Today we bought a pump and tried to empty the water out so we could clean it. We pumped 9 gallons a minute for 15 min and YOU COULD NOT TELL! We could not make the water level go down even 1 fraction of an inch! It hasnt rained here in days so its not runnoff...
So I am guessing its a good well...but How do I clean it? What else do we need to know? Do I have to report it or can I keep it private being the previous owners didnt even know it was here...How do I cover it and run it up to the camp location (about 150ft)....yea yea I know how DID you miss it? It is really thick in those woods!
That is great ! Bet you were glad to come across that.
 
Not sure where you are or if you are in city limits but there is a possibility
the authoritys would make you seal it up if you reported it. Check with the
laws concerning 'Wells' in your area by a visit to the Library. Couldn't even
begin to tell you where to search for Regulations of Private Property wells.
 
 The water has to be tested and maybe the nearest university could do that
for you. In my state, I can send soil samples off to be tested so I don't see
why water could not be sent. At the very least test the PH of the water.
7.0 ph is neutral; 8.0 is ok but leans toward the Acidic side; 6.0 is okay but
is alkaline or base in nature. If it is above 8ph and below 6ph then something
is wrong.
  135 gallons pumped in 15 minutes is a pretty good bit. Do that again but
first take the Temperature [ if you can ] of the water BEFORE you pump
water out for 30 minutes and then take the temperature of the water AFTER.
If the water is nice and cool; say about 65 degrees F then it is being
replenshed from a good source more than likely. Nevertheless getting a temp
reading of it would be a good thing.
  All in all, you are going to have to find somebody local that knows wells. :)
They would know whether it is a good idea to 'pipe' the water to another
location.   Send a pic of the well !
 
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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 08:10:05 PM »

Heres the pic...Dont look like much but its Mine!!


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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 08:14:45 PM »
We are Out of the small town city limits...The land was considered rough hunting land when we bought it. So the well has to be pretty old.

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 05:20:16 AM »
We are Out of the small town city limits...The land was considered rough hunting land when we bought it. So the well has to be pretty old.
More than likely you can do anything you want with it.  :)
The pipe looks from 18inches to 2 feet across. Maybe from 1960 or so.
You'll have to find somebody that knows Wells as there are way too many
things to consider before using it.
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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2011, 06:29:22 AM »
Lucky You!  Just my own personal experience though about speaking with any "local" people in a small community where you might be somewhat of a newcomer, be very careful who you talk to, in case it would not be OK, but you want to use it. I accidentally made a wrong phone call once to check on something and found out I was talking to somebody on the township board and then it became a nightmare! I probably would've been just fine if I hadn't picked up the phone that day!! Just my two cents for what its worth... Great find though I know I'd be as happy as a clam, but may want to shut up tighter than one til I'd done some more anonymous research (or maybe I'm just paranoid).....

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2011, 06:37:08 AM »
While you are waiting to get the well tested I would cover the well to keep anything from falling in.

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2011, 08:03:00 AM »
Lucky You!  Just my own personal experience though about speaking with any "local" people in a small community where you might be somewhat of a newcomer, be very careful who you talk to, in case it would not be OK, but you want to use it. I accidentally made a wrong phone call once to check on something and found out I was talking to somebody on the township board and then it became a nightmare! I probably would've been just fine if I hadn't picked up the phone that day!! Just my two cents for what its worth... Great find though I know I'd be as happy as a clam, but may want to shut up tighter than one til I'd done some more anonymous research (or maybe I'm just paranoid).....

I read online last night that all wells in this county have to be inspected yearly, numbered and registered and if "they" find them unsuitable for whatever reason "they" are to backfill and close them. Lots of demolition rules...IF the pump is removed for longer than it takes to replace it and IF the walls are this or the Pipe is that...
SOO
I am not telling anyone around here. I moved here for the coming events and Im sure not risking them taking my new found water away. Now I do have other water bubbling from the ground in two places and dripping out of the rock in another so I think this water would be good.
We have been drinking creek water for a year now so once cleaned out and "fixed" I would think this Well would be a better option.
I will still run it all through my Berkey.  :D

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2011, 01:59:04 PM »
I would get the water tested in your well, and put a cover on it so nobody could fall into it, and to hide it from "them".

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2011, 06:25:55 PM »
So We have lived here for just about a year now and have hiked all over the property...EXCEPT where its heavy with brambles. My son decided to come on up from Alabama and see whats going to happen. He decided to go check out the brambled area and came back with pics of....A WELL...A very open one...
We planned to put one in but WOW the last owners did not know it was there either LOL.
Now I don't know beans about wells....Today we bought a pump and tried to empty the water out so we could clean it. We pumped 9 gallons a minute for 15 min and YOU COULD NOT TELL! We could not make the water level go down even 1 fraction of an inch! It hasn't rained here in days so its not run off...
So I am guessing its a good well...but How do I clean it? What else do we need to know? Do I have to report it or can I keep it private being the previous owners didn't even know it was here...How do I cover it and run it up to the camp location (about 150ft)....yea yea I know how DID you miss it? It is really thick in those woods!


Report it to who? It doesn't exist remember? Matter of fact....what well are you talking about? Say NOTHING, especially "those to the right and left of you. Got the picture?  ;)

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2011, 07:09:16 PM »
yes, first get the water tested, cover to keep rats and ect. out.

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2011, 11:41:51 PM »
So We have lived here for just about a year now and have hiked all over the property...EXCEPT where its heavy with brambles. My son decided to come on up from Alabama and see whats going to happen. He decided to go check out the brambled area and came back with pics of....A WELL...A very open one...
We planned to put one in but WOW the last owners did not know it was there either LOL.
Now I dont know beans about wells....Today we bought a pump and tried to empty the water out so we could clean it. We pumped 9 gallons a minute for 15 min and YOU COULD NOT TELL! We could not make the water level go down even 1 fraction of an inch! It hasnt rained here in days so its not runnoff...
So I am guessing its a good well...but How do I clean it? What else do we need to know? Do I have to report it or can I keep it private being the previous owners didnt even know it was here...How do I cover it and run it up to the camp location (about 150ft)....yea yea I know how DID you miss it? It is really thick in those woods!


denasfarm wow that is great! Here is one reference I found about wells. I hope it helps. Now this is n Oklahoma document you would need something similar for whre you live.
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http://www.deq.state.ok.us/factsheets/water/privatewell_well%20maintenance.pdf

How To Properly Maintain Your
Private Water Well

Once disinfected, a properly protected and constructed
water well should yield bacteriologically safe drinking
water until the well is opened. Recontamination can
be prevented if the following measures are taken:
1. In order to protect the well from surface water, grade
around the well to divert surface water away from the
well.
2. Maintain at least 100 foot separation between the well
and all up-slope pollution sources such as septic systems
and ponds. Maintain at least 50 foot separation on
down-slope and 75 foot on same elevation pollution
sources.
3. Maintain at least 50 foot separation between
the well and all buildings (which may be termite
treated).
4. The well should be cased to at least 10 feet below
ground level.
This publication is issued by the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality authorized by Steven A. Thompson, Executive Director. Copies have been prepared at
a cost of $0.1035 each. Copies have been deposited with the Publications Clearinghouse of the Oklahoma Department of Libraries. (dh\fact sheets\WQD\privatewell_
wellmaintenance.indd) 2/09.
5. The casing should extend at least 8 inches above ground
level.
6. The upper terminal of the well casing should be capped
with a commercial, sanitary well seal. Old deteriorated
seals may no longer be effective and should be replaced.
Electrical cables passing through the seal should be
caulked to prevent airborne contamination.
7. Any necessary vents in the well seal should be turned
down and screened.
8. Any time you remove the well seal, you should
chlorinate in accordance with the DEQ fact sheet on
chlorinating your private water well.
For additional information contact your local Department of
Environmental Quality office or call DEQ Environmental
Complaints and Local Services at (405) 702-6100.

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2011, 07:44:58 AM »
BTW the pdf also tells a person how to disinfect the well, to get to ready to use.
(Same link I posted above previous post is listed below.) - Yowbarb


http://www.deq.state.ok.us/factsheets/water/privatewell_well%20maintenance.pdf )

WATER Fact Sheet |February 2009

DISINFECTION OF INDIVIDUAL WATER WELLS
This publication is issued by the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality authorized by Steven A. Thompson, Executive Director. Copies have been prepared
at a cost of $0.0035 each. Copies have been deposited with the publications clearinghouse of the Oklahoma Department of Libraries. (M:\CSD\Colby\factsheets\Water\
DisasterRecovery2010) 5/10.

A water well should be disinfected (1) when the well is newly drilled; (2) when repairs to the well or pumping equipment are completed;
(3) when an unsafe sample has been reported or (4) after a disaster situation which has impacted your home or business. Ordinary liquid laundry bleach may be used to disinfect a well. Liquid laundry bleach contains 5.25 percent chlorine. Care should be
taken to avoid using scented bleach as this will contaminate the well.

In order to disinfect a well:
1. Pump the well enough in advance to completely remove sediment and other debris caused by construction or repairs.
2. Add enough chlorine to make 50 to 100 parts per million solution (use table below).
3. Circulate the solution by pumping the discharge back into the well. This can be done by inserting a garden hose through
the well seal at the top of the well and pumping until the chlorine is thoroughly mixed (at least fifteen minutes).
4. Open each water tap in the system until a strong chlorine odor is present, then close the tap. This will also disinfect the
house service lines.
5. Let the chlorine stand for at least 24 hours, if possible, but no less than two hours.
6. Flush the system thoroughly.
7. Resample after a one week period to allow for the possibility of bacterial regrowth.
If a sample has tested positive, the disinfection has been done and another sample is collected for testing, please write
'RETAKE' in the Samplers Remarks.
The volume of laundry bleach needed to make a 50 parts per million (ppm) solution may be found from the table below if one knows
the depth of the water in the well and the casing (pipe) size. This volume may be doubled to achieve a 100 ppm solution if desired. Further assistance regarding disinfection of your well may be obtained from your local environmental specialist.

Questions about the
testing can be answered at the State Environmental Lab (405) 702-1000.

Amount of Chlorine Bleach Needed

Well Diameter

Depth of Well          3 in.                    6 in.                    9 in.              12 in.
50 ft.                        3 oz.                    8 oz.                  25 oz.             50 oz.
100 ft.                      6 oz.                    20 oz.                50 oz.            100 oz.
150 ft.                      8 oz.                    30 oz.                75 oz.            150 oz.

8 oz. = 1 cup 25 oz. = 3 cups 50 oz. = 61/4 cups 100 oz. = 12 1/ 2 cups 150 oz. = 19 cups,
1 1/4 gals.

This publication is issued by the Oklahoma Department of Environmental Quality authorized by Steven A. Thompson, Executive Director. Copies have been prepared
at a cost of $0.0035 each. Copies have been deposited with the publications clearinghouse of the Oklahoma Department of Libraries. (M:\CSD\Colby\factsheets\Water\
DisasterRecovery2010) 5/10.

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Re: Well... We found a Well...
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2011, 07:48:23 AM »
yes, first get the water tested, cover to keep rats and ect. out.

Good idea... also I am thinking a person could put a little shed over it or camouflage with trees