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Re: Urban Survival Skills
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2017, 06:22:40 PM »
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Venezuelans now separating edible, non-edible trash to make it easier for starving scavengers to survive

Indeed a terrible situation.

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The next time a liberal democrat tries to make a case for big government and the redistribution of wealth, kindly point them towards Venezuela, where they can live in their own dull, bleak utopia. Food lines stretch on for miles, and widespread poverty, rationing of epic proportions are quite common. It is all directly linked to an all-powerful regime and the centralization of authority; principles that the American left are always fighting for.

But I suspect that the cause is not simply "big government and the redistribution of wealth" - although ineptitude contributes - but rather destabilization by the dark cabal as a response to noncooperation by the government.  Has anyone read or seen the back-story to this situation?

It does not good to blame progressive or liberal or semi socialistic politics, Venezuela has lost its free elections. The man in power there did that. It is is not a progressive democracy or modern western socialism actually it is just ruled by a dictator, a despot. Authoritarian ruled, closer to fascism. Whenever a country no longer has democratic representation and fair elections, it matters naught what the label says whether it is socialism or fascism it is autocratic and kleptocratic.
Excellent point, yowbarb.

 We must remember Venezuela has oil and as we know big countries love to steal resources from smaller countries, and they have many ways to destabilize those smaller countries, including helping install dictators who will secretly work with any country with deep pockets.

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Re: Urban Survival Skills
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2017, 09:51:26 AM »
ilinda, I totally agree with that, too! (About  bigger powers exploiting and messing with smaller countries...for oil.)

Losing the construction of their Parliament or whatever representative government a country has is the first step in losing  free elections. That happened in Hitler's days and we need to be careful it doesn't happen right now...under our noses while we listen to useless propaganda...it is important if someone is dismantling the government institutions we do need...

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2017, 06:46:26 PM »
ilinda, I totally agree with that, too! (About  bigger powers exploiting and messing with smaller countries...for oil.)

Losing the construction of their Parliament or whatever representative government a country has is the first step in losing  free elections. That happened in Hitler's days and we need to be careful it doesn't happen right now...under our noses while we listen to useless propaganda...it is important if someone is dismantling the government institutions we do need...
Yes, there is so much going on in the U.S. capitol now that who knows where it will all lead?

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Re: Urban Survival Skills
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2017, 02:19:04 PM »
https://www.rodalesorganiclife.com/garden/5-reasons-you-should-consider-raising-backyard-chickens
It's true, and chickens can very quickly begin to enrich your soil.  About 10-12 years ago I had chickens for about a year, and in that time they completely denuded their pen, so I let them free range.  It was encouraging to see how quickly they can remove grasses from an area, readying it for a garden!  '

When chickens come here again, we will be better prepared to move them from here to there, back and forth, and in the process let them do the spring weeding for the garden, plus year-round fertilization.

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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2017, 03:03:16 PM »
https://www.rodalesorganiclife.com/garden/5-reasons-you-should-consider-raising-backyard-chickens
It's true, and chickens can very quickly begin to enrich your soil.  About 10-12 years ago I had chickens for about a year, and in that time they completely denuded their pen, so I let them free range.  It was encouraging to see how quickly they can remove grasses from an area, readying it for a garden!  '

When chickens come here again, we will be better prepared to move them from here to there, back and forth, and in the process let them do the spring weeding for the garden, plus year-round fertilization.

I am not an expert on this but the other day, had the sudden thought there might be something in the chicken droppings which would help decontaminate and clean soils...
Who knows what a variety of contaminants could happen during the passing of the PX system...
I figure (and there have been topics on this) some soils will be drenched with salt water, some deeply burnt, fracking messes and oil spills will definitely happen. Fires exploding automobiles, stores, gas stations, factories... equals chemicals in the soil...
I would venture to say, having chickens and also some kind of huge stash of seaweed for the soil should help in the Aftertime... 
Was googling...trying to find out more...Sure enough! Chicken manure is listed as a helpful ingredient in some manuals books about decontaminating the soil.
Going to go post this in the Soils Topic...The Earth Around Us: Maintaining A Livable Planet

screen shot of excerpt, when searching for chicken poop as decontaminant

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Re: Urban Survival Skills
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2017, 04:01:40 PM »
Good to know about chicken poop and its decontaminating qualities.  There are some (not many) who are said to feed their chickens from the wild, as they gather hickory nuts, walnuts, etc.  Re the nuts, all you have to do is crack them open, and let the birds do the rest.  If you find a breed that is known to be a good forager, you'll have better luck than if you look for one of those birds who are known for their large size.

I remember Harvey Ussery mentioned this in his book BackYard Poultry or similar name.  He doesn't give instructions on how to do so, but knows there are some who do, and of course they say the birds are leaner, but they do lay eggs and do provide meat, but in smaller quantities than the bigger birds.

It makes a lot of sense to at least try.  One woman who posted about this on the WAPFarmers yahoo email list said that when she gets a new chicken, she just puts it in with the others who have to free-range and she said they learn that they have to get their own food, and do.  Sometimes she has them at the edge of some woods where there's cover, plus more variety of foods, but cannot recall about predator control.  Could be a dog, or llama, or ??

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Re: Urban Survival Skills
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2017, 04:19:52 PM »
Good to know about chicken poop and its decontaminating qualities.  There are some (not many) who are said to feed their chickens from the wild, as they gather hickory nuts, walnuts, etc.  Re the nuts, all you have to do is crack them open, and let the birds do the rest.  If you find a breed that is known to be a good forager, you'll have better luck than if you look for one of those birds who are known for their large size.

I remember Harvey Ussery mentioned this in his book BackYard Poultry or similar name.  He doesn't give instructions on how to do so, but knows there are some who do, and of course they say the birds are leaner, but they do lay eggs and do provide meat, but in smaller quantities than the bigger birds.

It makes a lot of sense to at least try.  One woman who posted about this on the WAPFarmers yahoo email list said that when she gets a new chicken, she just puts it in with the others who have to free-range and she said they learn that they have to get their own food, and do.  Sometimes she has them at the edge of some woods where there's cover, plus more variety of foods, but cannot recall about predator control.  Could be a dog, or llama, or ??

Sounds like a really good reference... yes for sure people should be thinking about bringing chickens along on their bug out...

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Re: Urban Survival Skills
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2017, 04:53:21 PM »
We have learned to keep new chickens at home for a month before allowing them to join the others foraging at the edge of the woods.  Once we had a young hen leave home for three months and then return - we had allowed her to forage right away and she was confused about where home was still, plus hens need to be kept together for the first few days when a newcomer arrives, because the pecking order has to be re-established each time the flock changes, and there is no way of circumventing that ritual. :)