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Re: Fireballs, comets, meteorites, meteors and asteroids
« Reply #480 on: November 29, 2017, 06:33:18 PM »
Max, If you or anyone can think of more ways to fire-proof the outdoors around our homes, please share!  Have thought of metal roofing, quick-connect garden hoses, keeping leaves raked, patrolling the woods...more ideas?
This topic has been on my mind a LOT for the past year or so.  Because of meteorites, asteroidites, bolides, "dust", and debris, it doesn't take a lot of deep thought to imagine many frame buildings would burn to the ground if they are not protected during such a flyby as PX. 

As you mention, metal roofing.  There is the old-fashioned "tin roofing" which may actually be tin or mostly tin, as it seems different from aluminum flashing, and different from steel roofing, and different from the newer "tin roofing".  I've had this thought of starting to gather up all the old sheets of tin roofing from previous farm owners, then attach them at the top of the exterior wall, just under the eaves.  It would not win any beauty contest, but could buffer the blows from a rain of debris.

Then there are those "cement boards" that are very thin, maybe 1/8", and the size of plywood at 4'X8'.  Those would serve the same purpose, but have to be bought, whereas many old farms have piles of old, used tin roofing panels.  The downside to cement board is that it might break easily.

Then there is hardware cloth with the smallest openings, for example 1/4" or 1/2", which could buffer the strike by a lot of objects, but depending on the object size, the hardware cloth might dent too deeply, allowing contact to the combustible exterior walls.

Aluminum flashing would be helpful, but is hard to work with, as it seems to have a mind of its own, re bending.

Last but not least, we learned this from working with an elderly relative with dementia--Depends (for incontinence) do not burn.  In fact, we tried with no luck, as they just sort of shrivel and condense when exposed to direct fire, but they do not combust.  But tacking hundreds of Depends on one's house might not appeal to anyone, including neighbors,  plus there may be some ordinance against it--public nuisance?


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« Reply #481 on: November 29, 2017, 06:36:14 PM »
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Last but not least, we learned this from working with an elderly relative with dementia--Depends (for incontinence) do not burn.  In fact, we tried with no luck, as they just sort of shrivel and condense when exposed to direct fire, but they do not combust.  But tacking hundreds of Depends on one's house might not appeal to anyone, including neighbors,  plus there may be some ordinance against it--public nuisance?

That's a very unexpected use of them Ilinda!  :)

I seem to remember from the boys' infancy that disposable diapers can explode when saturated (we used to let them go wading in a diaper) - would intermittent rain be an issue?
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« Reply #482 on: November 30, 2017, 04:40:35 PM »
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Last but not least, we learned this from working with an elderly relative with dementia--Depends (for incontinence) do not burn.  In fact, we tried with no luck, as they just sort of shrivel and condense when exposed to direct fire, but they do not combust.  But tacking hundreds of Depends on one's house might not appeal to anyone, including neighbors,  plus there may be some ordinance against it--public nuisance?

That's a very unexpected use of them Ilinda!  :)

I seem to remember from the boys' infancy that disposable diapers can explode when saturated (we used to let them go wading in a diaper) - would intermittent rain be an issue?
Then there's your fire-starter!   ;D

Not sure what the rain would do as long as they are tacked along their top edge.  Maybe just dry out.

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« Reply #483 on: November 30, 2017, 06:36:40 PM »
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« Reply #484 on: December 03, 2017, 07:55:48 AM »
‘R.R’ did you hear  this??

Bright meteor fireball explodes over Pennsylvania, sonic boom reported

https://www.sott.net/article/369931-Bright-meteor-fireball-explodes-over-Pennsylvania-sonic-boom-reported-VIDEOS

If you were looking up at the sky at 3 a.m. Saturday, you may have seen a bright flash of light.

It turns out the flash was the result of a fireball meteor.

WGAL reports the fireball meteor was seen over most of the northeastern part of the country. Fireball meteors are brighter than normal meteors, and usually end with a flash as they disintegrate in the atmosphere.

Numerous photos and videos have made their rounds on social media.

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« Reply #485 on: December 03, 2017, 09:06:37 AM »
Wow Max.  I looked at the AMS reports, and there were complaints of eye pain by some who reported - more reason for us not to stare, though they are amazing to look at!

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« Reply #486 on: December 05, 2017, 06:28:53 AM »
There have been several films of cars on fire in parking lots attributed to plasma strikes recently.  This one is so disturbing, that I won't post an image (for those with a strong stomach):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsRgGbUmGuU

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« Reply #487 on: December 05, 2017, 02:49:18 PM »
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Last but not least, we learned this from working with an elderly relative with dementia--Depends (for incontinence) do not burn.  In fact, we tried with no luck, as they just sort of shrivel and condense when exposed to direct fire, but they do not combust.  But tacking hundreds of Depends on one's house might not appeal to anyone, including neighbors,  plus there may be some ordinance against it--public nuisance?

That's a very unexpected use of them Ilinda!  :)

I seem to remember from the boys' infancy that disposable diapers can explode when saturated (we used to let them go wading in a diaper) - would intermittent rain be an issue?
Then there's your fire-starter!   ;D

Not sure what the rain would do as long as they are tacked along their top edge.  Maybe just dry out.

I think U could be right, a meteorite could be "the firestarters."

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Re: Fireballs, comets, meteorites, meteors and asteroids
« Reply #488 on: December 06, 2017, 02:49:40 AM »
Max, If you or anyone can think of more ways to fire-proof the outdoors around our homes, please share!  Have thought of metal roofing, quick-connect garden hoses, keeping leaves raked, patrolling the woods...more ideas?

Last but not least, we learned this from working with an elderly relative with dementia--Depends (for incontinence) do not burn.  In fact, we tried with no luck, as they just sort of shrivel and condense when exposed to direct fire, but they do not combust.  But tacking hundreds of Depends on one's house might not appeal to anyone, including neighbors,  plus there may be some ordinance against it--public nuisance?

ilinda - this Depends idea is worth remembering.
How would it work if it they were tightly crumpled up and cemented or glued on, then covered up? Could be fireproof paint or some other covering...

This video is about fireproof paint https://youtu.be/AEG5C55UqUo

Wonder if better to glue on crumpled up Depends then paint with fireproof paint?


 

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« Reply #489 on: December 06, 2017, 03:21:41 PM »
NASA confirms more than 60 reports of meteor fireball across Florida skies

https://www.sott.net/article/370441-NASA-confirms-more-than-60-reports-of-meteor-fireball-across-Florida-skies

NASA confirms at least 60 reports of a fireball seen across Florida skies on Tuesday evening, just after the sun set.

Video captured on dash cam video shows the fireball falling near Little Road and 54 around 6:30 Tuesday.

A Riverview family also caught video of the fireball on their security camera outside their house.

The American Meteor Society, a non-profit scientific organization had at least 55 reports across Florida too.

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Re: Fireballs, comets, meteorites, meteors and asteroids
« Reply #490 on: December 06, 2017, 04:28:00 PM »
Max, If you or anyone can think of more ways to fire-proof the outdoors around our homes, please share!  Have thought of metal roofing, quick-connect garden hoses, keeping leaves raked, patrolling the woods...more ideas?

Last but not least, we learned this from working with an elderly relative with dementia--Depends (for incontinence) do not burn.  In fact, we tried with no luck, as they just sort of shrivel and condense when exposed to direct fire, but they do not combust.  But tacking hundreds of Depends on one's house might not appeal to anyone, including neighbors,  plus there may be some ordinance against it--public nuisance?

ilinda - this Depends idea is worth remembering.
How would it work if it they were tightly crumpled up and cemented or glued on, then covered up? Could be fireproof paint or some other covering...

This video is about fireproof paint https://youtu.be/AEG5C55UqUo

Wonder if better to glue on crumpled up Depends then paint with fireproof paint?
Probably depends (pun intended) on whether the glue is fireproof.  If I were considering this, I might use the fireproof paint first, then glue on the Depends, then cross my fingers. It even makes one wonder if the factory where they are made has as a starting material, huge sheets or rolls, that are then cut.  I'd probably investigate whether Depends material can be bought prior to it being made into the diaper-things.

Also, I'd probably buy another one off the shelf, just to make sure the formulation has not changed over the years.  If they had large sheets, perhaps 8' X 10' or 20' X 40', wouldn't that be cool to cover an exterior wall?  In fact, if seriously contemplating this, I'd set up two experiments:  one wall section with glued-on, crumpled Depends, covered by a coat of fireproof paint, and another with fireproof paint on first, then glued-on Depends on top layer.

Make sure your experimental areas are something that can be sacrificed, then try a match, or if that doesn't work, maybe a blow torch.  Really see what a fire will do, as that's the only way to know.

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« Reply #491 on: December 09, 2017, 09:42:40 AM »
Half-minute film taken Thursday of various colored plasma strikes over San Antonio, Texas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gEQssOc2No