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breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« on: November 22, 2017, 06:29:06 PM »
'Survival math' really just doesn't add up; How on Earth am i ever going to establish an off-grid and self-sustaining setup if i have to manage maintaining a caloric intake of at least 2000 per day?
The answer: You don't have to...

Listened to this podcast on breatharianism yesterday and it all suddenly clicked for me. This Israeli dude Ray Maor was explaining about it and about retreats he offers around the world.
I'd heard of breatharianism before and i even have a "fasting & breatharianism" thread at my own online database. I even heard about this breatharian couple who actually got pregnant and had a baby [!] without eating anything. So maybe this background knowledge and experience had me prepared to hear about it and have it resonate with me now.

Ray Maor says he's not really living as a breatharian today anymore, but that he has a meal once or twice a week. But, hell, i'll take it; it would mean actually being able to survive [and perhaps even thrive] on things like fruit one should be able to grow oneself. I mean, i could never manage 2000 calories a day, but 200 to 400? I believe that should be feasible.
This guy is by no means the first or only such person i've come across through the years; i heard David Jubb talk about living without food for 11 years and he, too, went back to eating small amounts after that.
So perhaps that's part of it for me today, since this Ray Maor is saying in the above podcast that coming to believe it's even possible is an important first step in attaining breatharianism.


Surviving a worst case scenario TEOTWAWKI event, freedom, self-reliance, health, being able to make it on top of a mountain... All these things are extremely benefitted by the vast reduction of need for resources that breatharianism offers.
Frankly, perhaps, it's not particularly a young man's game, for just like the podcast mentions and i myself experienced when i went vegan for 2 years in the '90s, changing to this way of eating and living also has a lot to do with one's social life. But since i've already more or less come to expect i'll wind up living like a hermit some day and since my current social life is minimal anyway, i'm not looking to others around me for feedback or support anymore. So maybe it's just time.

First step, apparently, is detox. So it's back to regular juices, vegan foods, clay, MMS, fermented foods, etc. for me...  :P
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2017, 05:42:11 PM »
So i started downloading and listening to podcasts @ oneradionetwork again [been doing so on-and-off just about when Patrick Timpone started back in '08] and it does not disappoint.
Master Lui-Gino also says that people who have cleansed [detoxed] their system can live off of as little as 1 meal a week. And he, too, offers a fairly simple process to achieve as much.

We as preppers / survivalists have much to contemplate in this regard, i believe, for if one can drastically reduce one's caloric intake, survival options similarly change dramatically.
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inedia
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2017, 02:16:23 PM »
I found a terribly interesting online book from a Polack called Joachim Werdin:


inedia
An inediate is a man who does not need food or drink for their body to function properly. Inediate's mind and body function perfectly. This word originates from the old Christian scripts describing saints who lived for years without eating and drinking. Presently the word inedia relates not only to Christian saints but describes any man living without eating and drinking regardless of their religion or beliefs.
breatharian
Every man who needs to breath to live is a breatharian. Air is food for humans. Humans are breatharians. Whether they eat or not, has nothing to do with being a breatharian. Even if you eat tons of food every day, you are still a breatharian. Presently the term breatharian is often misused and misunderstood because people wrongly say 'breatharian' when they really mean 'inediate' or possibly 'non-eater'.

Despite what some people and the mass media are promoting, inedia is mainly one of the by-products on the way to expanding the sphere of the Consciousness in which man lives, in other words, on the way to perfection, on the path of conscious self-development. Making non-eating the main goal and attempting to adapt the body to living without food, without the necessary spiritual considerations, can cause suffering to you. One of the reasons why I have written this book is to deliver proper and practical information about: what the matter is about, which way of doing it is more beneficial, what should not be omitted, what should be considered etc.
It is worth remembering that inedia is related to conscious self-development, although a completely unaware man who is not interested in this matter, also can acquire the ability to live without inserting anything into their mouth.
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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 06:18:43 PM »
Socrates, really interesting Topic!

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topics and sources related to inedia
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2018, 12:23:25 PM »
From the above one might/should understand that reaching/achieving inedia [commonly referred to as "breatharianism"] has a lot to do with detox. Therefore, i should mention what i consider the 2 greatest sources of information in regard to (physiological) detox:
- Tony Pantelleresco and
- Robert Cassar
Both have many many youtube vids and go into many aspects of detox in detail. Therefore, there's no 'easy fix' here; getting into what these men have to offer involves many hours of research. However, they are worth your time...

Next it should be noted that the above [i.e. in previous post] mentioned Gino makes a very interesting link to the work of Keshe, suggesting the latter's insights on plasma (energy) explain not only why inedia works but also how it might be achieved more easily.

I'm currently researching the online info proposed by Thomas Delauer (see also SixPackAbs.com) concerning intermittent fasting [an important half-way point in achieving inedia or eating at least much less]. So far i'm quite impressed with what science he brings to the table in this regard.
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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2018, 01:15:42 PM »
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Gino makes a very interesting link to the work of Keshe, suggesting the latter's insights on plasma (energy) explain not only why inedia works but also how it might be achieved more easily.

Socrates, I've been trying for a few years to understand Keshe's GANS.  I know it involves carbonated water, but that seems to be too simplistic, and there appears to be more to it.

Interesting that Cassar attributes our desire for food to parasites.  I appreciated his comment that one can fast from a particular food, rather than all foods.  He equates fasting to simplifying one's whole world and resting, noting that there can be fasts from other aspects of life than dietary.   

Interesting that Delauer recommends cider vinegar / lemon to prevent mineral loss from accompanying water loss from fasting.  Also interesting that pectin binds to fats to slow their absorption, and that caffeine helps to eliminate fat due to neurotransmitter boost.  I didn't know that  Stevia works by not being metabolized at all.  Will have to look for green tea with gensing - have never had it before. 
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Re: Cassar/Keshe/DeLauer
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 10:58:19 AM »
LOL
Join the club; trying to figure out what Keshe's about is indeed quite the challenge. But then the same goes for other in depth research and experiments by the likes of folks like Pantelleresco, Cassar and DeLauer.
You've clearly put some time into listening to (some) of what they have to say, but sheesh, i've known about Pantelleresco and Cassar for (many) years but there's just so very much to digest that they propose and present. And then there's all the time and investment that would go into putting their suggestions into practice.
Still, if detox is really all that [and in our toxic world, i believe it is], we all (unfortunately) need to take these sources seriously. On the bright side, the more people get into it, the more streamlined it should become; on the other hand, for now it still requires quite some personal research, effort and investment to get up to speed.

I ordered Keshe's book [main one] a year ago but have yet to receive it; apparently there's an issue with their publisher or something. Am hoping to get around to digging more deeply into these kind of vids this year. Detox and fasting appear to be nature's way of achieving both health and longevity, and if it can help achieve eating far less or even becoming inediate, these are worthy ideals for anyone interested in becoming self-sustainable and prepared.
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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 11:19:02 AM »
I wonder if Keshe's material is banned in the U.S., since he himself is not permitted into this country?  (If so, then so much for our First Amendment rights...)

Yes, I probably have lots more reading to do to get up to speed on this. 


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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2018, 08:03:34 PM »
I wonder if Keshe's material is banned in the U.S., since he himself is not permitted into this country?  (If so, then so much for our First Amendment rights...)

Yes, I probably have lots more reading to do to get up to speed on this.

Ditto on that, lots of reading to do...
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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2018, 08:15:50 PM »
I wonder if Keshe's material is banned in the U.S., since he himself is not permitted into this country?  (If so, then so much for our First Amendment rights...)

Yes, I probably have lots more reading to do to get up to speed on this.

I think there is a whole lot going on behind the scenes.. I do not know if Keshe is banned or not...read some pretty far out but could-be-true stuff about how Keshe helped the FBI bust a huge sex trafficking ring, pedophile ring which involved high officials. During GW Bush's Presidency but don't think Pres was in on it.
Could be, he is such a hot property (asset) best he not be here...

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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2018, 08:19:17 PM »
I wonder if Keshe's material is banned in the U.S., since he himself is not permitted into this country?  (If so, then so much for our First Amendment rights...)

Yes, I probably have lots more reading to do to get up to speed on this.

I did a cursory look lots about him online...
Not sure yet if Keshe's scientific data, blueprints, formula is available here or not...
Lots about him, good and bad,

https://keshefacts.wordpress.com/2016/11/21/keshes-wiki/  (2016 article, yet he has a store, posted link in next post, store page copyrighted up through 2018.)
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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2018, 08:23:44 PM »
I wonder if Keshe's material is banned in the U.S., since he himself is not permitted into this country?  (If so, then so much for our First Amendment rights...)

Yes, I probably have lots more reading to do to get up to speed on this.

Keshe is very controversial. If his inventions, products are as good as he says they are, they offers a whole lot of competition to a whole lot of people. As we know, some people, corporations flourish on inventing problems for people/preventing them from being solved, therefore, Keshe would be a target from them. Keshe could be a fraud or an enlightened genius. The jury is out for me, will have to read more.

Re his materials "banned in the US," some of his writings and products on this page.
Apparently Keshe's stuff is sold in the US. This page below is copyrighted up through 2018.


https://usastore.keshefoundation.org/store/ 
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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2018, 08:41:00 PM »
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Re: breatharianism [or better: "inedia"]
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2018, 08:43:34 PM »
Keshe looks legit to me... I will have to do some homework...

 

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