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Yowbarb - SURVIVING the CHANGES => Survival Shelter and Location Ideas => Topic started by: Yowbarb on October 05, 2010, 11:24:24 AM

Title: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 05, 2010, 11:24:24 AM
Hi All
Bear in mind I am going to post up some links. Not at all verified. These are things I see...
- Yowbarb  In the Ebay? Topic I had also mentioned land on ebay.
WWW.CHEAPLANDINAMERICA.COM (http://WWW.CHEAPLANDINAMERICA.COM) 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 05, 2010, 11:42:41 AM
http://www.landandfarm.com/ (http://www.landandfarm.com/)   Land and Farm
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 17, 2010, 04:40:00 PM
Thank you so much for this great information. I am looking into it today.

You're welcome!
I will continue to post land purchase ideas, with the understanding I do not know what companies are best and not plugging any particular one. Members can post their ipinions, or what they know about various companies. As time goes on we will have more companies listed more ideas, and more of an idea which are best, and what is a fair price.
One thing is sure as 2012 approaches some of the land will disappear. There were two missile bases sold off recently from that Peden site. (Posted somewhere above but here it is again,
http://www.missilebases.com/ (http://www.missilebases.com/)
Here's one Ozark Land Company http://www.ozarkland.com/ (http://www.ozarkland.com/)

I also posted Ozark Land co in the Topic, Ozark Meeting Place...
http://www.ozarkland.com/UplandMists/J/a.htm (http://www.ozarkland.com/UplandMists/J/a.htm)
All The Best,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 16, 2010, 11:22:34 AM
Randomly posting a few items I find. One for now.
I cannot guarantee the validity of the sites, nor the safety of the locations.
If I post it, it looks like a possibility. Not sure if this is near a potentialy active volcano. By the county map it looks like it is not so close to one.

http://www.nationalatlas.gov/dynamic/dyn_vol-us.html

This are from Live Auction.com   http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/8204202
They posted one from GovernmentAuction.com   

This is in northern Nevada. 640 Acre, Humboldt County, NV

NV LAND, 640 AC. $129,441@$1,297/mo   "This superb parcel is located in Humboldt County, Nevada. This is a great location with open space--there is a lot of room for various uses of land. Industries providing employment in Humboldt County: Agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting and mining (24.6%), Educational,health and social services (14.5%), Arts, entertainment, recreation, accommodation and food services (13.2%), Retail trade (12.2%).
Winnemucca is only a short drive away."
 
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on November 16, 2010, 02:52:48 PM
Here is one that is not as cheap, but perhaps more isolated and greener.

(http://images.secondspace.com/p/SUP/26/0F/54/54/05/37L_01.jpg)

"BUCKING HORSE RANCH 12 mi w of Ekalaka. Home of the world-famous Tooke Rodeo Company. Comfortable, older ranch home, barn, corrals & shop on 240 ac. Views of Powder River Breaks & abundant wildlife make this a desirable property. End of road privacy. This won't last long. $425,000"

From http://www.landwatch.com/Carter-County-Montana-Ranch-for-sale/pid/917922 (http://www.landwatch.com/Carter-County-Montana-Ranch-for-sale/pid/917922) .

You might find some good leads on the Land Watch site.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 16, 2010, 03:25:55 PM
Jim, thanks for the land post,
 :D

- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 19, 2010, 11:37:45 PM
Mamma search "Ozark land"
http://www.mamma.com/result.php?type=web&q=Ozark+Land&j_q=&l=


Mamma search,

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_R9rDOhBeR40/TNgIJSWzrrI/AAAAAAAAAYs/71K3V7jzimk/s1600/Ozark+fall+colors.jpeg)[/img]
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 28, 2010, 12:11:11 PM
Hi All I select these things randomly not plugging any particular company
this one is called Land Central....
Yowbarb

http://www.landcentral.com/
Black Friday land sale ends tonight at midnight (Sunday)

Here is another one which specializes in Missouri land. I would recommend in the Ozarks ...
nothing down near the big rivers...

http://www.moodyrealestate.com/acrelist.html
http://www.moodyrealestate.com/

http://realestate.shop.ebay.com/Land-/15841/i.html     Ebay land bids going on...

...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 06, 2011, 06:55:00 AM
Re: Northern US Meetings
« Reply #12 on: Today at 09:26:25 am »
Quote from: alaskanwinter on January 04, 2011, 11:40:04 pm
Basically the deal I had worked out with landowners was to rent their land for a share of harvest.  I think many would be willing to rent land for cheap just to have someone on it.  It is nothing here to see a hundred acres that is just vacant.  A lot of people just want to have the land worked so it doesn't go fallow.  The precise terms would be worked out with individual owners.  But I found a lot of interested landowners.  Obviously being people they was a wide range of interest.
One of my biggest source for contacts was www.alaskaslist.com.  Farm and garden section.

Alaskanwinter thanks for sharing this info. This is a valuable contribution. - Yowbarb
...

 Yowbarb's Question To Members:
Is anybody having success, getting some of these landowners to allow tenants to
build their survival shelters?
Minimally they would have to be able to construct a small dome or other reinforced cement structure.
They would probably have to set in a couple of steel containers for their vehicles, tools, seeds and other supplies; in some cases, domestic animals. They would need to set in a couple of cement structures for their propane tanks and one for gasoline.
I am thinking there must be some people who would be willing to do this. The idea is, many people will not have the money to purchase
land, but they could scrape up a wad of money to rent off a portion, say in a few years lease. The lease would have to protect the tenant
because that would be quite an investment to create the shelter. Maybe the "carrot" could be survivor tenants could help clear away and renovate the owner's entire property after the worst of the earth changes over. (Big job: Clearing away, digging up soil and putting in some substances which would detoxify up the soil. (Perhaps algae and seaweed, as I have mentioned in other topics.) Then the process of putting down more topsoil, some fertilizer, watering and planting.  It would be a challenge -  and people living on the land could be a big help. 
Ideas anyone?
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 06, 2011, 07:01:39 AM
I've been having dreams 2-3 times a week about this 28 acre place down the road from me.  I could really do some of my bigger plans with that land!  I really wish I could get it, but don't know where to get the $$ for it yet.  :(

To augonit,
Alaskanwinter posted some interesting ideas in Northern Meetings, on renting off a portion of  land.
I just copied his post here in this Topic along with some ideas and questions.
Best O' Luck and keep on keepin on,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: bk on April 23, 2011, 03:25:33 AM
Here is the real estate link I have been using.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/29588/type-land/price-10000-50000/sby-1/ofbm-8
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 25, 2011, 06:56:37 AM
Here is the real estate link I have been using.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/29588/type-land/price-10000-50000/sby-1/ofbm-8

BK thanks for posting this,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2011, 11:45:31 AM
I'm hoping people can find plots of land - not all cutesy - not in some subdivision. Remote enough so that there are no restrictions on building. At the same time it needs to be near electricity. Even if the grid eventually fails will need it during the whole building evolution...
while installing other sources of power...
Members please share your ideas.
"No restrictions" may be a rare thing indeed.
I don't want someone breathing down my neck...
Ideas?
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: bk on April 26, 2011, 01:36:51 PM
Barb,
         If you can invest in a portable generator so that you have elec. on site till you can get some other means to power the place up. That way you are not as limited on your choices.

It would be a shame not to take the perfect spot because there was no power and if you are using a steel container all you have to do is roll the generator inside and lock it up while  you are moving back and forth.


Bob
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2011, 02:35:31 PM
Barb,
         If you can invest in a portable generator so that you have elec. on site till you can get some other means to power the place up. That way you are not as limited on your choices.

It would be a shame not to take the perfect spot because there was no power and if you are using a steel container all you have to do is roll the generator inside and lock it up while  you are moving back and forth.


Bob

Well that is true of course posted it too fast.  8)
Thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 30, 2011, 08:13:02 PM
This is an area I am gravitating to...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 24, 2011, 02:29:40 PM
I find it very interesting that a huge storm just hammered the very area  people are looking at for a strategic location relocate during this global catastrophe. Just my thought. Sorry, i thought it was weird.

You are right that did happen. The only think I can say is, any building or traveling up to that area will have to be soon and not in the springtime tornado season... not sure when this season will be over it is pretty much one storm after another now.
If Planet X comes closer, and earth changes hit the way many people believe, then we will see a short time period of 200 mph winds all over the planet. At that point it won't matter if it is in a tornado zone or not the group needs to be in a safe shelter. Once some of the earth changes are over it my not be so bad in the Ozarks. Meanwhile it will presumably be far enough inland and far enough up to at least avoid tital surge. High enough away from the rivers on the flood plain.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 17, 2011, 08:36:14 AM
MOTHER EARTH NEWS has a Land For Sale section. Here is the link which takes you to it,

Property Wants & Needs
http://www.landsofamerica.com/landsconnector/mother-earth-news/index.cfm?action=wantsNeeds 

[YB Note: Post there what you want, what you are selling or trying to buy. Ads last 90 days.]

YB Note: AUCTIONS: HUNDREDS of land auctions listed link on this page:

http://www.landsofamerica.com/landsconnector/mother-earth-news/index.cfm?action=resultsByCounty&listingtype=Auction&sortby=AuctionDate&sortbydirection=ASC



For some reason the "featured ones" are all large plots of land and all listed as 4 million buckeroonies.
http://www.landsofamerica.com/landsconnector/mother-earth-news/
Check it out anyway, could work for a large group of people. Cost per person not so great...

-  Yowbarb
...

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Scot68 on June 23, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
I am really confused.. I understand I am new to all this. I have only found out about all the Elenin event. I have spent alot of time and I really mean alot of time over the past week online. I know that their are the ones out there that will misslead people. My question is with what I have read and or seen Terral says and other say to get to the  Ozarks. My question is why are the "Elites" are heading to Denver??  Is it safe for them out there because of the large bunker they have? Like I said I am new to this. I have heard so many of the end of the world stuff. This one does bother me. My only worry is my kids. I will do what ever I have to for them to be safe...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: rodfergie on June 23, 2011, 08:45:19 PM
I am really confused.. I understand I am new to all this. I have only found out about all the Elenin event. I have spent alot of time and I really mean alot of time over the past week online. I know that their are the ones out there that will misslead people. My question is with what I have read and or seen Terral says and other say to get to the  Ozarks. My question is why are the "Elites" are heading to Denver??  Is it safe for them out there because of the large bunker they have? Like I said I am new to this. I have heard so many of the end of the world stuff. This one does bother me. My only worry is my kids. I will do what ever I have to for them to be safe...
The Front Range, what Canyon City though Ft. Collins which includes Denver is called, is on basically safe ground.  High altitude, not many weather extremes, water, farm land etc.
That is why people are gravitating to this area.

You can be a Prepper anywhere though.  Read though this site and others, and you can learn what to do.  It is never ever to late to prepare.  If only for your children.

And also WELCOME!!

 8)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 23, 2011, 10:36:17 PM
I am really confused.. I understand I am new to all this. I have only found out about all the Elenin event. I have spent alot of time and I really mean alot of time over the past week online. I know that their are the ones out there that will misslead people. My question is with what I have read and or seen Terral says and other say to get to the  Ozarks. My question is why are the "Elites" are heading to Denver??  Is it safe for them out there because of the large bunker they have? Like I said I am new to this. I have heard so many of the end of the world stuff. This one does bother me. My only worry is my kids. I will do what ever I have to for them to be safe...

Hello again. About all we can do is read what data there is, also opinions and choose where to go.
I feel the elite many of them are bunkered in the Denver area. Those with a lot of money already have indestructible type shelters and lots of supplies. If someone had the means to do so and had some inkling what could be coming they have already set up something for themself there.
The deal is, it is one mile high. It gets well below zero. If a person is relying on generators, propane or wood stoves that is pretty cold.
[ Wikipedia: The coldest temperature ever recorded in Denver was recorded on January 9, 1875 at −29 °F (−34 °C) ]

People have mentioned Ozarks have chiggers etc. not good but there must be a way to deal with that.
Temperatures at this location the Ozarks range from:

January: Lo 21 Hi 43

July:       Lo 68 Hi 90

http://www.houseboating.org/OZARKS/temperatures.cfm
 
 - Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: VillageIdiot on June 24, 2011, 06:01:10 AM
...The deal is, it is one mile high. It gets well below zero. If a person is relying on generators, propane or wood stoves that is pretty cold. [ Wikipedia: The coldest temperature ever recorded in Denver was recorded on January 9, 1875 at −29 °F (−34 °C) ]
...
I'm sorry if it bothers you if I or someone else recommends a place like the Ozarks, when others say Colorado.
- OR -it appears the elite are going there.  Everyone needs to decide for themselves.
- Yowbarb
I have been living in the Denver metro area since 1981 and only recall 2 winters when the temperature was colder than -10° F for more than 2 consecutive days: 1984 and last winter. Although winters are typically very mild here, in February 2011 we had 2 weeks of bone-chilling hell. It brought back no-so-fond memories of several Buffalo, NY winters that I experienced as a kid. Last winter most of the windows in my house were coated in 1/4" thick solid ice extending inward approximately 3" from the window frames.

Since my wife refuses to relocate to the Ozarks, my only option at this time is to install a wood burning stove in the basement and a backup electrical generator. My goal is to have both installed and working no later than Labor Day 2011.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 24, 2011, 06:12:12 AM
...The deal is, it is one mile high. It gets well below zero. If a person is relying on generators, propane or wood stoves that is pretty cold. [ Wikipedia: The coldest temperature ever recorded in Denver was recorded on January 9, 1875 at −29 °F (−34 °C) ]
...
I'm sorry if it bothers you if I or someone else recommends a place like the Ozarks, when others say Colorado.
- OR -it appears the elite are going there.  Everyone needs to decide for themselves.
- Yowbarb
I have been living in the Denver metro area since 1981 and only recall 2 winters when the temperature was colder than -10° F for more than 2 consecutive days: 1984 and last winter. Although winters are typically very mild here, in February 2011 we had 2 weeks of bone-chilling hell. It brought back no-so-fond memories of several Buffalo, NY winters that I experienced as a kid. Last winter most of the windows in my house were coated in 1/4" thick solid ice extending inward approximately 3" from the window frames.

Since my wife refuses to relocate to the Ozarks, my only option at this time is to install a wood burning stove in the basement and a backup electrical generator. My goal is to have both installed and working no later than Labor Day 2011.

V.I. well you would know, you are there.  :) Granted temps do not often go to 29 below.
You are wise to have the backup generator and the wood burner. I feel people will need lots of wood burner in the future...
I was just saying Ozarks milder. Hunker down where you are... you know how to deal with it, thanks for imput,
Barb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: rodfergie on June 24, 2011, 11:36:45 AM
You would never get me to move to the Ozarks.
I have family there!

 :P :P :P
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 24, 2011, 12:27:23 PM
You would never get me to move to the Ozarks.
I have family there!

 :P :P :P

Well I understand...  8)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 30, 2011, 08:47:05 AM
I am really confused.. I understand I am new to all this. I have only found out about all the Elenin event. I have spent alot of time and I really mean alot of time over the past week online. I know that their are the ones out there that will misslead people. My question is with what I have read and or seen Terral says and other say to get to the  Ozarks. My question is why are the "Elites" are heading to Denver??  Is it safe for them out there because of the large bunker they have? Like I said I am new to this. I have heard so many of the end of the world stuff. This one does bother me. My only worry is my kids. I will do what ever I have to for them to be safe...

Update: I am thinking The Appalachians may be safer than The Ozarks. Posted a notice on it in Member Notices.
Not trying to be confusing it does take something to sort out where to actually go.
Stay in touch,
Yowbarb   
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 30, 2011, 08:49:42 AM
Ebay is one place to look for land being auctioned off.
Here is one site posted previously,
Yowbarb

Land and Farm Home Page:  http://www.landandfarm.com/

http://www.landandfarm.com/search/West-Virginia-land-for-sale/ 
Wes Virginia land for sale   
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: rodfergie on June 30, 2011, 02:47:07 PM
Here's one I like
http://fasrp.sc.egov.usda.gov/fasrp/mainAction.do

Nothing like the government selling for a loss.  What do our tax dollars that purchased it matter.
Be that as it may, if they are selling, somebody has to buy it.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 30, 2011, 08:27:03 PM
Here's one I like
http://fasrp.sc.egov.usda.gov/fasrp/mainAction.do

Nothing like the government selling for a loss.  What do our tax dollars that purchased it matter.
Be that as it may, if they are selling, somebody has to buy it.


Thanks!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: terrypat on July 01, 2011, 09:34:35 PM
This B.D.S. condo shopping has taken on a whole new meaning today. Went to Sedona Az. today to visit the vortex & give the soul a fresh tune up for Sept - ? Went to the Red Rock State park at the south end of town. Low & behold I see the Holy Frickin Grail. Mother of God in heaven is an actual petroglyph stone carved by the Anasazi or Hopi tribes right there in ruins near the park. It is now under glass in the vistors center. Complete with the spiral & waves climbing the hills with goats & stick folks ..... SO !!!! The wheels start to turn & I say "Self- your in the right place for an astral cataclysm." I will be going to another site much closer to the hood tomorrow to see the local petroglyphs. I look at it this way from here on in. If the locals made these drawings then my chances are better than 50% that I can ride this wave out. Anybody else have these drawings were they live. If u don't, then moving real soon would be the next logical step.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: rodfergie on July 01, 2011, 11:13:04 PM
Got them here in Southern Colorado.  Also got some fossil beds.  I don't know if that part is a good sign though. :'(
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 18, 2011, 11:58:00 PM
Ebay land auction about 10 hours left. Go to your Ebay plug in land and real estate it pops up.  - Yowbarb

COLORADO LAND 5 ACRE VIEW MOUNTAIN &SCENIC CATTLE RANCH Listed for charity
OWNER FINANCE NO CREDIT CHECK,0% INTEREST W/LOW DOWNPMT
Item condition:   --
Time left:   10h 28m 56s (Jul 19, 201110:15:20 PDT)
Bid history:   
1 bid
Current bid:   US $100.00

1 ACRE IN DEMING, NEW MEXICO. MOUNTAIN VIEWS
Less than $50.00 per month !!!!!!!
Item condition:   --
Time left:   14h 7m 57s (Jul 19, 201114:00:13 PDT)
Bid history:   
0 bids
Starting bid:   US $25.00   
Your max bid:   
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Price:   US $1,800.00   
Buy It NowBuy It Now

2acres with 30'x40' garage and 12'x24' lofted barn
Item condition:   --
Time left:   15d 11h (Aug 03, 201111:36:57 PDT)




Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 19, 2011, 08:52:04 AM
"COLORADO LAND 5 ACRE VIEW MOUNTAIN &SCENIC CATTLE RANCH"

See:
http://land-ads.com/usa-land-listings/colorado-land/colorado-land-5-acre-view-mountain-scenic-cattle-ranch/ (http://land-ads.com/usa-land-listings/colorado-land/colorado-land-5-acre-view-mountain-scenic-cattle-ranch/)

[start excerpt]
ACROSS HWY 142 ARE SOME OF THE PRETTIEST HAY FARMS AND CATTLE RANCHES IN THE AREA(I have just one of them up in picture # 10,but there are several of them). THEY ARE SET W/THE BEAUTIFUL SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS,AS THE BACK DROP. This is my favorite area,because these ranches and farms are just incredibly beautiful and you get to have views of them along w/the mountain views,so you get EVERYTHING WITH THIS TRACT!!!!!! Again this subdivision is just ONE MILE TO THE TOWN OF SAN LUIS AND 3 MILES TO THE BASE OF THE SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS. All other 5 acre subdivisions will be 10-20 minutes ONE WAY to the TOWN OF SAN LUIS & TO THE BASE OF THE SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS. Many of these subdivisions you need your glasses on to see the mountains,as the majority of the subdivisions in our County are nowhere near the Mountains in our County & are way out in the plains,so if you want a 5 acre Tract that is by the Mountains w/Great Mountain Views that is also In-Town,This is THE ONLY 5 ACRE SUBDIVISION THAT IS BOTH IN TOWN & STARTS AT THE BASE OF THE SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS GIVING YOU THE ABSOLUTE BEST MOUNTAIN VIEWS OF THE SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So if you want a quality 5 acre tract, that you can have horses and that is close to The Town of San Luis and to the Sangre de Cristo Mountains
[end excerpt]

Interesting!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 19, 2011, 08:58:18 AM
Hi Jim  ;) yes it is interesting! I have never bid in one of these property auctions.
I have been looking at the various deals over the past couple years - some are pretty incredible. 
Some must be take it as-is and sight unseen and many have just a few hours left on them by the time I see them...
YB
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 19, 2011, 09:01:17 AM
"COLORADO LAND 5 ACRE VIEW MOUNTAIN &SCENIC CATTLE RANCH"

See:
http://land-ads.com/usa-land-listings/colorado-land/colorado-land-5-acre-view-mountain-scenic-cattle-ranch/ (http://land-ads.com/usa-land-listings/colorado-land/colorado-land-5-acre-view-mountain-scenic-cattle-ranch/)

[start excerpt]
ACROSS HWY 142 ARE SOME OF THE PRETTIEST HAY FARMS AND CATTLE RANCHES IN THE AREA(I have just one of them up in picture # 10,but there are several of them). THEY ARE SET W/THE BEAUTIFUL SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS,AS THE BACK DROP. This is my favorite area,because these ranches and farms are just incredibly beautiful and you get to have views of them along w/the mountain views,so you get EVERYTHING WITH THIS TRACT!!!!!! Again this subdivision is just ONE MILE TO THE TOWN OF SAN LUIS AND 3 MILES TO THE BASE OF THE SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS. All other 5 acre subdivisions will be 10-20 minutes ONE WAY to the TOWN OF SAN LUIS & TO THE BASE OF THE SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS. Many of these subdivisions you need your glasses on to see the mountains,as the majority of the subdivisions in our County are nowhere near the Mountains in our County & are way out in the plains,so if you want a 5 acre Tract that is by the Mountains w/Great Mountain Views that is also In-Town,This is THE ONLY 5 ACRE SUBDIVISION THAT IS BOTH IN TOWN & STARTS AT THE BASE OF THE SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS GIVING YOU THE ABSOLUTE BEST MOUNTAIN VIEWS OF THE SANGRE DE CRISTO MOUNTAINS PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So if you want a quality 5 acre tract, that you can have horses and that is close to The Town of San Luis and to the Sangre de Cristo Mountains
[end excerpt]

Interesting!

1 Bid   $100.00   Time left:1h 15m
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 19, 2011, 09:06:31 AM
Ebay


Item image   
$99 DOWN $215/MTH~5 ACRES OKLAHOMA LAND~POWER/PHON​E!
OWNER FINANCE~PERFEC​T HOMESITE~FOREC​LOSURE SALE!
 
   Get fast shipping and excellent service when you buy from eBay Top-rated sellers   0 Bids   $99.00   Time left:10h 30m
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 19, 2011, 09:21:21 AM
This one is an affordable lease to own. Not sure what could be worked out with owner he would have to go along with underground shelter ideas and group on land etc. worth a try.  Go to Ebay plug in land then in category, Real Estate. - YB

Kentucky Land for Sale 22 acres Building Lot and Land
Lease Rent to Own Contact for Deed owner Financing
Item condition:   --
Time left:   21h 42m 33s (Jul 20, 201106:51:25 PDT)
Bid history:   
1 bid
Current bid:   US $0.99
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Another lease to own...

Kentucky Land for Sale 2.81 acres Lease to Own Finance
Owner Financing Lot Contact for Deed owner Financing
Item condition:   --
Time left:   21h 31m 43s (Jul 20, 201106:43:17 PDT)
Bid history:   
0 bids
Starting bid:   US $0.99
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Yowbarb Note: This looks good but be aware it is not far from the St. Lawrence Seaway. South of it...

Ebay ad
New York Land. No Restrictions.Paved Road.PRICE LOWERED
Build House, Raise Animals,Farming, Hunting. Camping...
Item condition:   --
Time left:   2d 04h (Jul 21, 201113:30:28 PDT)
Price:   US $500.00   
Buy It Now

Property Details

Survey has been completed and filed. Property has a road frontage to apaved highway. Electric and Telephone lines run directly in front of this property. This lot has a 25 ft wide right of way next to it. No restrictions; you may build a house, raise animals, have a farm, use for hunting, fishing, camping and much more. Corning, NY is a 20 minute drive from this property which has many businesses, schools, restaurants, shopping centers and more

Price: $17,995.00
$3,000 Off!

Lowered Price: $14,995

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on July 19, 2011, 09:58:34 AM
geez that sounds like a great deal even I could afford!!!  I'm going to check it out....
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: terrypat on July 19, 2011, 10:12:40 AM
For those folks on a tight budget. Here's another avenue to pursue. I don't know the laws in the other surrounding states but here's how we do it in Az.

I go to the BLM office here in Kingman Az. (This can be done online as well) Fill out the "Location Notice for Lode Mining Claim" 2 pgs. paperwork. 2nd page is a map to fill out.

Than I take this paperwork to the county recorders office & along with $16 (not a misprint) I claim 20 ac of land for the purpose of "exploration" .... You now have the right to reside on this land so long as you can provide evidence of your work. This work needs to show you have spent $150 a year on the exploration. 1 tank of gas in a 4X4 should cover this requirement. WHA - LA... wave the magic wand & POOOF survival land for the cost of a round of beers at the 19th hole !!!! Hope this helps my good folks!!!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 19, 2011, 10:50:36 AM
Last one for now a big Michigan lot. A few hours left on auction photos on Ebay site.
- YB

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=140575230223     
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15 ACRE LOT - OSCEOLA CNTY - MI LAND - MICHIGAN
BACKS UP TO 160 ACRES STATE LAND W/MIDDLE BRANCH RIVER
Item condition:   --
Time left:   6h 14m 24s (Jul 19, 201117:00:47 PDT)
Bid history:   
0 bids
Starting bid:   US $20,000.00   
Your max bid:   
US $   
   
Place bidPlace bid
   (Enter US $20,000.00 or more)
   or   
Price:   US $22,000.00   
Buy It Now
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 19, 2011, 02:09:24 PM
"For those folks on a tight budget. Here's another avenue to pursue. I don't know the laws in the other surrounding states but here's how we do it in Az."

Good info, terrypat.  I have saved it for possible future reference.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: terrypat on July 19, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
At least if some folks choose this approach they will know the laws & won't get run off so easy. At least around here.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: fidelis_soul on July 19, 2011, 09:34:02 PM
i am in california too trying to save money to move my small family to montana a self sustainable community is there waiting for us with under ground shelter reinforced steel and concrete also have a friend in town who is interested in going with me its not much i can do at the moment lord willing ill be able to transport my kids and food in time any one able to make it with me could meet me in sacramento we can drive together to montana just putting that out there for any one interested  ;)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 20, 2011, 12:24:29 PM
For those folks on a tight budget. Here's another avenue to pursue. I don't know the laws in the other surrounding states but here's how we do it in Az.

I go to the BLM office here in Kingman Az. (This can be done online as well) Fill out the "Location Notice for Lode Mining Claim" 2 pgs. paperwork. 2nd page is a map to fill out.

Than I take this paperwork to the county recorders office & along with $16 (not a misprint) I claim 20 ac of land for the purpose of "exploration" .... You now have the right to reside on this land so long as you can provide evidence of your work. This work needs to show you have spent $150 a year on the exploration. 1 tank of gas in a 4X4 should cover this requirement. WHA - LA... wave the magic wand & POOOF survival land for the cost of a round of beers at the 19th hole !!!! Hope this helps my good folks!!!


I just now saw your post, thank you.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 20, 2011, 12:43:55 PM
i am in california too trying to save money to move my small family to montana a self sustainable community is there waiting for us with under ground shelter reinforced steel and concrete also have a friend in town who is interested in going with me its not much i can do at the moment lord willing ill be able to transport my kids and food in time any one able to make it with me could meet me in sacramento we can drive together to montana just putting that out there for any one interested  ;)

Fidelis Soul, best of luck, and you can post up your notice in these places too,
Yowbarb

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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 11, 2011, 10:00:40 AM
Cheap Land In America       http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/index.php

Land for Sale links:             http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/index.php#

Cash Specials today            http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/cs.php 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 11, 2011, 10:03:08 AM
EBay Land for sale page... click on the various links, states etc.
Yowbarb
1:02 PM EDT today:

http://realestate.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=land&_sacat=10542

This page has UTAH land:

http://realestate.shop.ebay.com/Real-Estate-/10542/i.html?_nkw=land&_dmpt=Land&_fln=1&_ssov=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282&State%252FProvince=Utah
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 11, 2011, 10:28:22 PM
Colorado land auctions, Ebay

Link for land, all states, Ebay:

http://realestate.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=land&_sacat=10542
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 11, 2011, 10:41:53 PM
This ad is for five acres in southern Colorado... plenty of other ads.

http://cgi.ebay.com/COLORADO-LAND-5-ACRES-MOUNTAIN-RANCH-FINANCING-0-DOWN-/150632208601?pt=Land&hash=item23126118d9

Ebay sales and auctions, all states:

http://realestate.shop.ebay.com/Real-Estate-/10542/i.html?rt=nc&_nkw=land&_dmpt=Land&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 13, 2011, 01:44:27 PM
ebay land ad

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160623554775&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en

Georgia Mountain Land, 219.92 acres, Waterfalls
Waterfalls, Trout Stream, Scenic Views, Creek
Item condition:   --
Classified ad price:   US $19,900.00
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on September 05, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
Please Note: I am not promoting any particular land sale co, realtor or site.
Here is one that grabs my attention, peruse at your own discretion,
Land Central. Labor Day Sale on today. Next one is Cheap Land In America.  :)
- Yowbarb 0843 AM EDT

Land Central
http://app.en25.com/e/es.aspx?s=1280&e=21842&elq=88440e8cb00f4959bd9020755bfb9456

Cheap Land In America
http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/?gclid=CPmh5J6QhqsCFZNV7AodeRvH1Q



Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 09, 2011, 10:27:44 AM
http://www.foreclosure.com/cheap_land.html

Foreclosure.com    cheap land
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 20, 2011, 02:58:23 PM
Random sampling land seen in ebay just now. I can't tell what the total price is supposed to be
anyway it is up for ebay auction.
Search land in real estate category. - Yowbarb
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41 ACRE RANCH - STAKED & SURVEYED - MOUNTAIN VIEWS - 0% NO QUALIFY- ALL RIGHTS!
$199 DOWN PAYMENT- NO CLOSING COSTS-EVERYONE QUALIFIES!
Item condition:   --
Time left:   26d 04h (Jan 15, 201218:50:11 PST)
Price:   US $199.00   
Buy It NowBuy It Now

Item specifics
Seller State of Residence:    Nevada   Acreage:    41
State/Province:    Nevada   
Item number:    170749533361
Item location:    WINNEMUCCA, NEVADA, United States
Seller:               platinumone ( Feedback Score Of 372Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499)
100% Positive feedback
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Not sure if this would be affected by the New Madrid or not  This auction is about to run out of time... - YB
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5+ ACRES MIDDLE TENNESSEE LAND~NEAR TOWN~GREAT FOR HOMESITE OR CABIN!
LAND CONTRACT OF $99 DOWN & $163/MTH~YOU OWN THE LAND!
Item condition:   --
Time left:   4h 50m 33s (Dec 20, 201119:32:32 PST)
Bid history:   
0 bids
Starting bid:   US $99.00   

Item location:   Waynesboro, Tennessee, United States
Item number:   360417952381
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This says auction still going on for 10+ days and make offer. Not sure how far they will go below
asking price. - YB

39+ Acres Land Wells Elko Nevada Independance Valley- Owner Financing Possible!
Truely LOWEST PRICE on eBay w/ Cell Signal & A+ Hunting
Item condition:   --
Time left:   10d 13h (Dec 31, 201103:50:50 PST)
Price:   Original price US $12,950.00 Discounted price US $9,065.00   
Sale ends in 4 days
Buy It Now   "Make Offer"
...

ARIZONA~RARE 2.5 AC PARCEL~HIGH AND REMOTE~THICK WITH JOSHUA TREES!!
Amazing area 20 miles SW of Grand Canyon West Rim

tem condition:   --
Time left:   22d 23h (Jan 12, 201214:53:38 PST)
Price:   US $2,995.00   
Buy It NowBuy It Now
Best Offer:      
Make Offer
Item number:   180775522249
Item location:   Meadview, Arizona, United States
Ships to:   Local pick-up only
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 20, 2011, 03:16:27 PM
Also on ebay now,
YB
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Yowbarb Note: Douglas AZ elevation is:  Elevation    4,006 ft (1,221 m) Not sure the elevation of this land,
but I figure it may be over 3,000 feet.
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GORGEOUS ARIZONA LAND FOR SALE FARM RANCH 40 ACRES BUILDABLE VACANT LAND!!
SILVER CREEK RANCH REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT PROPERTY L@@K
Item condition:   --
Time left:   24d 21h (Jan 14, 201212:34:02 PST)

Price:   US $29,900.00   
Buy It NowBuy It Now
Best Offer:     Make Offer
Item number:   140663414849
Item location:   NEAR DOUGLAS, ARIZONA , United States
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20 ACRES~NORTH OF I-40~LUDLOW CA~ROAD RIGHT TO IT! NEAR MOJAVE NATIONAL PRESERVE
San Bernardino County Land ...! NO DOC FEES..!!!
Item condition:   --
Time left:   13d 22h (Jan 03, 201213:56:23 PST)
Price:   US $15,550.00   
Buy It Now
Best Offer:      
Make Offer
Item number:   280784913339
Item location:   USA, United States
Ships to:   Local pick-up only
History:   3 offers
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ARKANSAS LAKEVIEW PROPERTY- BULL SHOALS LAKE
4.17 ACRES
Item condition:   --
Time left:   8d 22h (Dec 29, 201113:37:48 PST)
Price:   US $24,000.00   
Buy It Now
Best Offer:      
Make Offer
Item number:   250943023295
Item location:   PEEL,ARKANSAS, United States
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Yowbarb Note: This is near Blanca, CO which is Elevation[3]    7,756 ft (2,364 m)

5.91 ACRE COLORADO RANCH LAND CONTRACT! $50 PER MONTH! POWER IN THE AREA!!!

$3095.00 TOTAL PRICE AT $50.00 A MONTH 0% INTEREST!

Item condition:   --
Time left:   1 day 20 hours (Dec 22, 201111:24:21 PST)
Price:   US $95.00   
Buy It Now
Item number:   150711555612
Item location:   Blanca, Colorado, United States
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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 16, 2012, 01:41:07 PM
http://www.landcentral.com/st-patricks-day-sale 

Land Central having a St. Patrick's Day Sale! It ends Sunday.
Posting this here in the hopes it helps someone get survival land.
sincerely,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2012, 09:17:19 AM
http://www.landcentral.com/spring-is-here-and-so-are-savings?utm_source=Eemail&utm_medium=Convo&utm_campaign=Spring4

Land Central Spring Sale started 22 March 2012
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2012, 11:12:07 AM
Not plugging any particular sellers or companies...Ebay is one source for land, worth a look-see.
- Yowbarb

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 22, 2012, 03:06:52 PM
This land might provide a haven for people escaping the SF Bay area...
Just a possibility just saw this, sale at Land Central,
Yowbarb

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http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale   

20 Acres of Land About 5 Miles SE of Moran

Lassen County, California          Purchase Price:  $24,897.00
20 acres

#7503
View Full Listing Details: http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/california/7503.html
Purchase Price:
$24,897.00

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Mark Harbolt on July 22, 2012, 05:52:34 PM
I scan Land Central, also.
I have seen some pretty good choices.
Each weekend I venture out to see if these will work.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 22, 2012, 10:09:47 PM
I scan Land Central, also.
I have seen some pretty good choices.
Each weekend I venture out to see if these will work.

Oh, that's interesting. I wish you luck in finding the land you need.  :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 22, 2012, 10:27:01 PM
This ad is for land in northern Nevada,
not far from the area where the borders of Nevada, Oregon and Idaho meet.
- Yowbarb
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Land Central Sale

2.45 Acres Near Winnemucca, Nevada.   Purchase Price: $4,697.00

Humboldt County, Nevada
2.45 acres
#7441

Listing Details:  http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/nevada/7441.html

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Downtown Winnemucca, NV

(http://landingaday.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/downtown-winnemucca.jpg)

http://landingaday.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/downtown-winnemucca.jpg
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 22, 2012, 11:13:25 PM
I can't be sure this is in a safe zone. It is near the Grand Canyon and close enough
to Los Angeles, etc. to possibly provide a haven. It's not a large parcel but should be
big enough for underground shelter and food and water storage.
- Yowbarb

1.5 Acres 6 Miles from Seligman Arizona

Property Number: #7063 FORECLOSED
Size: 1.5 acres
County: Yavapai
State: Arizona
 
Original Price: $10,397.00
Purchase Price: $7,862.69
Monthly Payment: $197.28
Down Payment: $167.11
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 23, 2012, 12:21:32 PM
Yowbarb Note: The two images I posted farther below are not of the property.
They are photos near Ft. Garland. There is a massive reservoir near there so make sure any land you get is not in danger of getting flooded from it...should be a bit high up... Just takes some investigation. Might be good...
...

http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale?page=15

5.28 Acre Property About 11 Miles SE of Fort Garland

Property Number: #7602
Size: 5.28 acres
County: Costilla
State: Colorado
 
Purchase Price: $4,897.00
Monthly Payment: $158.37
Down Payment: $149.00
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 23, 2012, 12:28:37 PM
This below is not a photo of the land, it shows an area near Pueblo, Colorado.
Just a small plot of land. If zoning permits, might be big enough for an underground shelter.
There is water and game in the area... - Yowbarb
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Colorado City Land About 27 Miles from Pueblo

Property Number: #6821 FORECLOSED
Size: 0.207 acres
County: Pueblo
State: Colorado
 
Original Price: $4,497.00
Purchase Price: $2,314.62
Monthly Payment: $102.99
Down Payment: $75.31
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 23, 2012, 12:35:20 PM
Photo not of land parcel. It simply shows the area, looks beautiful.
- Yowbarb
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5.25 Acre Property Less than 78 Miles North of Taos

Property Number: #7591
Size: 5.25 acres
County: Costilla
State: Colorado
 
Purchase Price: $4,897.00
Monthly Payment: $167.45
Down Payment: $149.00
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 23, 2012, 12:51:41 PM
There is a lot of land for sale on Land Central - a person would have to check out the
sales on ther.
I didn't bother to post the ones near coastlines or in regions which could end up
volcanic for a time. Or too near the San Andreas or Juan de Fuca.
Also if desert and too arid looking, didn't post. This one has mountains nearby and no
doubt, streams and underground water.
Photo below is of town nearby, Kingman.
- Yowbarb
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Super 40 Acre Property Less than 60 Miles from Kingman

Property Number: #2294 FORECLOSED
Size: 40 acres
County: Mohave
State: Arizona
 
Original Price: $27,997.00
Purchase Price: $19,713.48
Monthly Payment: $341.69
Down Payment: $201.48
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 24, 2012, 05:18:49 AM
Thank you so much for this great information. I am looking into it today.

Ronald, in case you see this, what happened to your Membership?
Pls reapply.
- Barb Townsend
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 24, 2012, 07:24:55 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/South-Dakota-Hardin-County-Two-2-79-acres-parcels-for-sale-OIL-BOOM-/221079715405?pt=Land&hash=item337960be4d#viTabs
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 24, 2012, 11:29:07 AM
Land Flip land auctions site, link below. Pick the state you are looking at.
- Yowbarb


http://www.landflip.com/land-auctions.asp
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 23, 2012, 05:05:21 PM
I just noticed this site, Survival Realty. I can't vouch for it yet, but this could prove valuable
to someone. There is an interactive map on the home page, which has several survival sites for sale.
Hoping it's as good as it appears to be.  - Yowbarb
...
http://www.survivalrealty.com/    SurvivalRealty.com

"A directory of listing agents, agencies, and property owners specializing in survival retreats."


"Looking in a particular state or region? Click on one of the links on the right to browse properties and agents in specific states, provineces, and countries. Use the search box in the upper right to find particular terms."  [ See interactive map  http://www.survivalrealty.com/ ]

..........................

Yowbarb Note: For those in the south or east coast, interested in getting away from the Gulf or the Atlantic, and who are too far south or close to water to be safe, this link takes you to Georgia properties.
A person would have to investigate and decide if it is a good survival location or not. Example of GA property:  Mineral Bluff Retreat 
"I offer a secluded, rural, retreat in the beautiful Appalachian Mountains of extreme North Georgia. The homestead is 13 miles from the quaint small town of Blue Ridge. One mile up a gently rising, county maintained, gravel road. 2.75 acres of beautiful mountain land, mostly mature hardwoods. Adjacent land is available by others. One visible neighbor and surrounded by 100s of acres of forest. Wildlife abounds.

House is 2000 sq. ft. custom frame 3/2, remodeled kit, great room with loft, mud room, laundry room, much storage, huge deck. Room enough for a couple families. Main heat is wood burning stove in great room. Back up is wall mounted propane heaters. Water is from a two year old private 245' deep well. Tested and water is perfect. Year round creek nearby but not on property.
Other amenities are a 1000 sf frame out building on slab with separate drive way and power. A 3000 sf organic garden. Fenced chicken coop and run. 8 x 16 under ground cold storage/safe room. A newly cleared area with fruit trees, grapes, blue berries. 12 x 16 covered firewood storage and 8 x 8 tool shed. Composting toilets. Rain water catchment systems, great solar system site.
House is totally livable and comfortable but needs a little repair and finish work such as finish exterior siding, soffit and fascia. Some electrical and minor plumbing need finishing.
2004 appraisal $227,000 as it was at the time. Much work and improvements since then. Asking only $99,000. Also available completely furnished along with 4-wheeler and garden and yard equipment." "

.......................................................................

Survival Reality, GA:  http://www.survivalrealty.com/united-states/georgia/   

More later...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 23, 2012, 05:28:00 PM
Here's another possible area for those fleeing the east coast and the Gulf and the low elevations in
the south. Southeastern Tennessee. It is (probably) far enough from the New Madrid to be OK.
This ad below is from the same site as posted previously, (Survival Reality.)   - Yowbarb
...
Survival Reality:

Lake Watagua Retreat (Tennessee)
Permalink  http://www.survivalrealty.com/2012/06/lake-watagua-retreat-tennessee.html

15 acres of subdivided property in Southeastern Tennessee. Property is surveyed into 4 large lots with road access. Beautiful rolling mountain views with deer and two minutes from Pioneer Landing Marina at Lake Watauga. Close to Boone and Blowing Rock, North Carolina. Close to Mountain City and Elizabethton, Tennessee. For complete information on the area and lake: www.wataugalaketennessee.com.

Conservatively valued at $145,000. Asking $75,000. Owner financing with 35% down payment. Will consider trade 15 acres of subdivided property in Southeastern Tennessee. Property is surveyed into 4 large lots with road access. Beautiful rolling mountain views with deer and two minutes from Pioneer Landing Marina at Lake Watauga. Close to Boone and Blowing Rock, North Carolina. Close to Mountain City and Elizabethton, Tennessee. For complete information on the area and lake: www.wataugalaketennessee.com.

Conservatively valued at $145,000. Asking $75,000. Owner financing with 35% down payment. Will consider trade. 15 acres of subdivided property in Southeastern Tennessee. Property is surveyed into 4 large lots with road access. Beautiful rolling mountain views with deer and two minutes from Pioneer Landing Marina at Lake Watauga. Close to Boone and Blowing Rock, North Carolina. Close to Mountain City and Elizabethton, Tennessee. For complete information on the area and lake: www.wataugalaketennessee.com.

Conservatively valued at $145,000. Asking $75,000. Owner financing with 35% down payment. Will consider trade.15 acres of subdivided property in Southeastern Tennessee. Property is surveyed into 4 large lots with road access. Beautiful rolling mountain views with deer and two minutes from Pioneer Landing Marina at Lake Watauga. Close to Boone and Blowing Rock, North Carolina. Close to Mountain City and Elizabethton, Tennessee. For complete information on the area and lake: www.wataugalaketennessee.com.

Conservatively valued at $145,000. Asking $75,000. Owner financing with 35% down payment. Will consider trade. 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 23, 2012, 05:40:57 PM
Last one posting tonight...this place has potential (IMHO.) Seller is "Asking $148,000."

This is also from Survival Reality, http://www.survivalrealty.com/     - Yowbarb

http://www.survivalrealty.com/united-states/oklahoma/  OKLA

Garvin Oklahoma Retreat   http://www.survivalrealty.com/2012/06/garvin-oklahoma-retreat.html

Semi-underground house near Garvin, Oklahoma, with 5 acres of land. Built in 1978-79.
Quote
"The main house is below ground in the side of a hill, but open on one side. About 2500 square feet, with 4 bedrooms, 2 full baths, kitchen, dining room, living room, sun room, laundry room, and fire place/wood stove. There is also a hole in the laundry room floor which would serve to install an indoor well if desired.

The aboveground space (upstairs) is also about 2500 square feet, and is mostly open and can be used for a business, an apartment (or 2), another whole house, or whatever your dream happens to be. The above ground construction remains to be finished, or it can be left open.


This is an ideal property for safety, both from tornados as well as use as a limited fallout shelter. The walls below ground are 12 inches thick reinforced concrete, and the downstairs ceiling is 5 inches thick. There are no leaks.

Outbuildings: one shop with covered area, carport/RV area with septic, 4-bay machine shed, and well shed.

Shopping to the nearest significant town (Idabel, Ok) is just 15 minutes away. Nearest neighbors are ¼ mile away. Texas border is 7 miles away.

South-east Oklahoma is a sparsely populated remote area with lots of fishing and hunting opportunities.

Asking $148,000. The property can be viewed on realtor.com. Contact mailkevingeorge@yahoo.com for more information." End quote

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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on August 24, 2012, 05:27:37 AM
Excellent website/info Barb...Thanks!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 24, 2012, 08:32:53 AM
Excellent website/info Barb...Thanks!

Enlightenme, I will be happy if it helps someone. Let's hope it's as good as it looks.  :)
I found the prices somewhat inspirational. Today's sample ad, below, 10 acres in Idaho.
- Yowbarb

Survival Reality, http://www.survivalrealty.com/

Clark Fork Retreat Land (Idaho)  http://www.survivalrealty.com/2012/07/clarkforkretreat.html

Gorgeous 10 acre parcel of raw land, 7 minutes outside of Clark Fork, ID, remote, quiet, and secluded, yet 1/2 mile to pavement. Beautiful 360 Views, Level building site, but also a gentle slope for an underground house or daylight basement. Also would be great property for a greenhouse, garden, or solar panels, with year round Southern exposure. Plenty of pasture and woods for horses or livestock.

Asking $69,000 or best offer. Will consider owner carry contract with 10% down payment, also will consider motor vechicle as part down payment.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on September 27, 2012, 10:09:10 AM
I have posted some three four places to view and possibly buy, survival land. These are in the survival website topic. Some of the sites posted are Land Central, Cheap Land and Survival Land.
We also have an EBAY topic about land ads, along with survival goods for sale on EBAY.

This topic will mainly be the land sale sites listed above, but I will post more if they seem promising.
Members, please feel free to post any land sale sites you find and also post any ideas you have on land ads, companies, etc.
- Barb Townsend     Example of one ad for now, Land Central.  Might be big enough for underground shelter if zoning is OK. Near lakes. Would be best if not at same level with the water. Research needed.
...
http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/pennsylvania/5787.html

Mt. Pocahontas, PA lakes and forests.


Carbon County, Pennsylvania
0.275 acres
#5787
FORECLOSED
View Full Listing Details
Original Price:
$9,997.00
Purchase Price:
$5,901.47

http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/pennsylvania/5787.html   Full Listing Details

"Located in the beautiful Pocono’s Mountains, a premier vacation area. Outdoor activities include skiing, fishing, hiking, camping, waterskiing and plenty of golf courses. This 1/4 acre property is in the subdivision known as Holiday Poconos in Albrightsville, PA. Only 1/2 mile from Placid Lake and 2 miles from Hickory Run State Park, this area includes Big Boulder Lake and Holiday Lake. This is a great family area, less than 1/2 hour from the Scranton, Wilkes-Barre city areas."

Assessor Parcel Number (APN): 12A 51 CP872
Size: 0.275 acres, County: Carbon, State: Pennsylvania


http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale

Sample image, not of land parcel, of the general area. This is a view of Lake Harmony, PA.

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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on September 27, 2012, 10:22:55 AM
Update: here are the four which I had previously mentioned. Ebay land ads has its own topic. - Barb T.

•   http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/index.php     Cheap Land In America
•   http://www.survivalrealty.com/ ..............................Survival Reality
•   http://www.landcentral.com/ ..................................Land Central
•   http://www.landandfarm.com/ ............................... Land and Farm

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on September 30, 2012, 09:47:01 AM
I was pursuing a website the other day and found a link for "Tiny Houses".  I think this would be one way to get an inexpensive shelter on your land.  It might not survive the pole shift, but would provide a base in the meantime where one could live or even go to on weekends and prepare gardens, plant fruit trees, etc in readiness for the shift.  I myself would love to own one, especially since I have a big interest in minimalism, I am not a radical, but I have downsized into a compact one bedroom apartment and have come to realize I could actually be happy living in something much smaller.  I think it is important to face the fact that we are a nation of excess, and we could free up a lot of extra cash by downsizing.  Soon we may have no choice anyway.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on September 30, 2012, 09:27:44 PM
I was pursuing a website the other day and found a link for "Tiny Houses".  I think this would be one way to get an inexpensive shelter on your land.  It might not survive the pole shift, but would provide a base in the meantime where one could live or even go to on weekends and prepare gardens, plant fruit trees, etc in readiness for the shift.  I myself would love to own one, especially since I have a big interest in minimalism, I am not a radical, but I have downsized into a compact one bedroom apartment and have come to realize I could actually be happy living in something much smaller.  I think it is important to face the fact that we are a nation of excess, and we could free up a lot of extra cash by downsizing.  Soon we may have no choice anyway.

Endtimesgal_2012,
Those tiny houses are fascinating! I posted something about them in a topic awhile ago (I think it was about "Aftertimes" buildings.) For some reason I really like the thought people could have some house of their own even if it is tiny.  ;D I do know for a fact people can get use to less space. It would help if the climate is comfortable, allowing for a person to be outside sitting and cooking etc. a lot of the time...

BTW one Ebay ad I had posted in the Ebay topic had a tiny cabin on it.
 ;) Yowbarb

RARE-1-5-ACRE-NEVADA-LOT-NEAR-RENO-LAKE-FREE-CABIN-PAVED-ROAD-NO-RESERVE-RARE POWER & 2WD ROAD TO THE LOT! CASH SALE! NO RESERVE



Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on September 30, 2012, 09:57:07 PM
Endtimesgal_2012, I figured you might like these images.
Last few tiny house photos then it's back to the survival land ideas...
 ;)
- Barb T.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on October 01, 2012, 04:43:32 AM
I have posted some three four places to view and possibly buy, survival land. These are in the survival website topic. Some of the sites posted are Land Central, Cheap Land and Survival Land.
We also have an EBAY topic about land ads, along with survival goods for sale on EBAY.

This topic will mainly be the land sale sites listed above, but I will post more if they seem promising.
Members, please feel free to post any land sale sites you find and also post any ideas you have on land ads, companies, etc.
- Barb Townsend     Example of one ad for now, Land Central.  Might be big enough for underground shelter if zoning is OK. Near lakes. Would be best if not at same level with the water. Research needed.
...
http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/pennsylvania/5787.html

Mt. Pocahontas, PA lakes and forests.


Carbon County, Pennsylvania
0.275 acres
#5787
FORECLOSED
View Full Listing Details
Original Price:
$9,997.00
Purchase Price:
$5,901.47

http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/pennsylvania/5787.html   Full Listing Details

"Located in the beautiful Pocono’s Mountains, a premier vacation area. Outdoor activities include skiing, fishing, hiking, camping, waterskiing and plenty of golf courses. This 1/4 acre property is in the subdivision known as Holiday Poconos in Albrightsville, PA. Only 1/2 mile from Placid Lake and 2 miles from Hickory Run State Park, this area includes Big Boulder Lake and Holiday Lake. This is a great family area, less than 1/2 hour from the Scranton, Wilkes-Barre city areas."

Assessor Parcel Number (APN): 12A 51 CP872
Size: 0.275 acres, County: Carbon, State: Pennsylvania


http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale

Sample image, not of land parcel, of the general area. This is a view of Lake Harmony, PA.

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Barb, since I don't live that far from Lake Harmony, I thought I would provide just a little more information here.  The area is beautiful, and quite a bit of land can be found for short money (though I have to admit the one you posted is the lowest I have seen).  Several years back I owned a house in one of the private communities not far from there.  The Holiday Poconos one is not that far from Lake Harmony.  One thing you do have to be very careful of is the "rules and regulations" on these communities.  Holiday Poconos was one of the better ones, not being as strict as some of the others.  The one I lived in only charged about $360/yr annual dues, always check what the cost of the annual dues are and what restrictions they have.  Certainly this lot would be great for a small cabin/house, probably far enough away from a major concern of flooding, and most people keep to themselves (most use them just as summer places), and I'm pretty sure you could fit a small underground shelter of some sort without a problem.  Like you had so, make sure to do the research and ask all the pertinent questions, so you don't end up with any unwanted surprises!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 01, 2012, 04:54:48 AM
... Example of one ad for now, Land Central.  Might be big enough for underground shelter if zoning is OK. Near lakes. ...Research needed.
...
http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/pennsylvania/5787.html

Mt. Pocahontas, PA lakes and forests.

Carbon County, Pennsylvania  0.275 acres #5787
FORECLOSED  
View Full Listing Details:  
http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/pennsylvania/5787.html

Original Price:
$9,997.00
Purchase Price:
$5,901.47

http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/pennsylvania/5787.html   Full Listing Details

"Located in the beautiful Pocono’s Mountains, a premier vacation area. Outdoor activities include skiing, fishing, hiking, camping, waterskiing and plenty of golf courses. This 1/4 acre property is in the subdivision known as Holiday Poconos in Albrightsville, PA. Only 1/2 mile from Placid Lake and 2 miles from Hickory Run State Park, this area includes Big Boulder Lake and Holiday Lake. This is a great family area, less than 1/2 hour from the Scranton, Wilkes-Barre city areas."

Assessor Parcel Number (APN): 12A 51 CP872
Size: 0.275 acres, County: Carbon, State: Pennsylvania

http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale

Sample image, not of land parcel, of the general area. This is a view of Lake Harmony, PA.
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Barb, since I don't live that far from Lake Harmony, I thought I would provide just a little more information here.  The area is beautiful, and quite a bit of land can be found for short money (though I have to admit the one you posted is the lowest I have seen).  Several years back I owned a house in one of the private communities not far from there.  The Holiday Poconos one is not that far from Lake Harmony.  One thing you do have to be very careful of is the "rules and regulations" on these communities.  Holiday Poconos was one of the better ones, not being as strict as some of the others.  The one I lived in only charged about $360/yr annual dues, always check what the cost of the annual dues are and what restrictions they have.  Certainly this lot would be great for a small cabin/house, probably far enough away from a major concern of flooding, and most people keep to themselves (most use them just as summer places), and I'm pretty sure you could fit a small underground shelter of some sort without a problem.  Like you had so, make sure to do the research and ask all the pertinent questions, so you don't end up with any unwanted surprises!
Hi Mary yes very true about people needing to know the fine print on many properties. The CCRs and zoning laws can make it impossible to survive, literally. Well here is all I have from the ad: You use the contact info, email and enter the description of ad and # Mt. Pocahontas, PA lakes and forests.
#5787
I hope that is enough info for them to get in touch with you and give the restrictions etc.
Let me know if this works,
Barb

Property Number: #5787
 
The corporate offices of LandCentral.com are located in Vancouver, Washington.

Address:

PO Box 872590

Vancouver, WA 98687

Phone: 877-257-0231

Local: 360-448-4292

Email us at invest@landcentral.com

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Assessor Parcel Number (APN): 12A 51 CP872
Size: 0.275 acres, County: Carbon, State: Pennsylvania
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 01, 2012, 10:36:07 AM
Enlightenme, did you find the info you needed for the PA land?
It is part of a subdivision so it might not work, but you can always contact the company.
Contact link on page, here is the page link.
All The Best Of Luck,  ;)
Yowbarb

http://www.landcentral.com/land-for-sale/pennsylvania/5787.html   

Mt. Pocahontas, PA lakes and forests.
Property Number: #5787 FORECLOSED
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on October 01, 2012, 03:47:55 PM
Thanks Barb, Will check as soon as I get a chance, thanks again for the info!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 01, 2012, 08:17:00 PM
Thanks Barb, Will check as soon as I get a chance, thanks again for the info!

 ;)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 05, 2012, 06:50:27 PM
http://www.landcentral.com/
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 05, 2012, 07:38:44 PM
Update: here are the four which I had previously mentioned. Ebay land ads has its own topic.
- Barb T.

•   http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/index.php     Cheap Land In America
•   http://www.survivalrealty.com/ ..............................Survival Reality
•   http://www.landcentral.com/ ..................................Land Central
•   http://www.landandfarm.com/ ............................... Land and Farm



http://www.survivalrealty.com/   

Flathead Lake View Acreage (Lakeside, Montana)
parcels near Lakeside, Montana. Both feature privacy with amazing lake and mountain views.

20 Acres with great lake and mountain views, no road noise - peace and nature! Septic approval. Want seclusion with fabulous views of Flathead Lake, horseback riding, and hiking? Look no further! Asking $180,000. Agent owned.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 05, 2012, 07:42:17 PM
http://www.survivalrealty.com/

Located 8 miles north of the small town of Idaho City and 50 miles north of Boise and easily accessed by highway 21 the 22 acre property is hidden in tall timbers and features a 225 foot deep well with hand pump, 20 foot diameter multi purpose gazebo/greenhouse with supplies for conversion, 8’x 24’ buried culvert root cellar, two year round streams with no one upstream, and three 20’ diameter cordwood/timber framed constructed yurt sized cabins. Ea cabin has a woodstove, built in full over full bunks and sleeps 4-6 ea, table and chairs, pots, pans, dishes included and a way to heat water for showering. A 40 foot steel shipping container is also located at the property for storage. Fishing and wild game are abundant as the property is surrounded by national forest and mountains. Asking $239,000. Contact ray@sustainablegrowth.com for more information.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 05, 2012, 07:50:41 PM
http://www.survivalrealty.com/2012/09/illinois-river-ranch-oklahoma.html

Illinois River Ranch (Oklahoma)

astern Oklahoma rural vacation property for sale at amazingly low prices of $750-$1,250 an acre. Very low taxes and annual dues. Lot sizes are mostly between 2.5 to 5 acres. This is platted rural land, outside any city limits, that is suitable for homes, cabins, rural retreats, camping and/or hunting. The Illinois River Ranch is currently selling approximately 40+ lots out of a 1,200+ lot development, covering about 3,600 acres. Many unique and different tracts of land to choose from, accessible by privately maintained roads. Electric and rural water is available, or you can drill your own well. This is mostly wooded hill top land immediately adjacent to the Illinois River near Chewey, Oklahoma. Year round canoeing, fishing, and other great recreational opportunities. Amazing views of river, mountains and area farmland. Many amenities, including use of common areas, come with property owner membership. For more information check out our website IRRPOA.COM, or email Andrew Waldron at IrishAJW@aol.com.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 05, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
Marshall Illinois Retreat
http://www.survivalrealty.com/2012/08/marshall-illinois-retreat.html

A perfect spot to build your retreat: 40 acres rated “SSS” (secluded, self-sufficient) and teeming with life!

Asking $215,000.

40 beautiful acres located approximately 7 miles ESE of Marshall, IL (Pop. 3884).

Property is landlocked with a permanent easement - not visible from any road. Far enough from town to be secluded but close enough to make supply runs (by horse or foot, if necessary).
Diverse contour of terrain provides great choke points for defense/traps and LP/OP
WONDERFUL 5 acre pond chock full of big, healthy fish including bass, crappie, bluegill and catfish. Spillway of pond has about 15 feet of drop with following downhill grade - potential micro-hydro site!
Perfect slope with southern exposure overlooking pond; the perfect place for a passive solar PIP concrete or underground home! Great sun exposure perfect for solar system!
Rich, 2 acre plowed garden plot on high ground
Remainder of property in MATURE hardwoods producing great mast, including lots of White Oak, Red Oak, Hickory, etc.. Endless supply of firewood, lumber and rails!

Big deer, turkey and small game ABUNDANT! You will definitely need to fence your garden (and then harvest the hungry deer).
Newer 30x40 foot steel barn with concrete floor and elect. on property. Also an older steel outbuilding.
Electricity and country water already running to the site.
Redundant well on site with hand pump. Good water!
Water sources all on highest elevation; Perfect for gravity-fed water system!
4 good seasons here - enough snow to keep the lookers out, but not enough to make a hard winter.
With some good fencing, would be perfect for cattle, meat/dairy goats, hogs and chickens
Perfect stage for you to build it up as you want it!
Cons:
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on October 16, 2012, 09:58:08 AM
I personally think Idaho would be a great location for a survival place.  I used to live just outside Boise and have camped all over the place within 100 miles.  It is beautiful with abundant water, trees, and actually reminded me a lot of central Oregon in many ways.  There are also lots of hot springs there, so I am sure there are volcanoes which could wake up, that is the only drawback that I could see, but I personally believe there are volcanoes in many places in North America that we are no longer aware of.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on October 16, 2012, 10:03:55 AM
I used to live in Pekin Illinois, hated it there, this location looks more promising.  I remember asking for where there was a campground, and was given directions to one.  I was so astonished, it reminded me of a drive in movie theater, and the people all had rv's and they had televisions and kiddie pools outside their rv's.  There was no natural sources of water, not even a tiny creek, and you had to turn on a spigot to get water.  It was unbelievable, and made me really miss Oregon, which I eventually moved back to.  Oregon is truly a beautiful place with an abundance of creeks, streams, rivers and lakes.  Lots of wildlife and trees everywhere.  A true paradise.  The only drawback for me is the continual rain for at least 6 months of the year.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 16, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
I used to live in Pekin Illinois, hated it there, this location looks more promising.  I remember asking for where there was a campground, and was given directions to one.  I was so astonished, it reminded me of a drive in movie theater, and the people all had rv's and they had televisions and kiddie pools outside their rv's.  There was no natural sources of water, not even a tiny creek, and you had to turn on a spigot to get water.  It was unbelievable, and made me really miss Oregon, which I eventually moved back to.  Oregon is truly a beautiful place with an abundance of creeks, streams, rivers and lakes.  Lots of wildlife and trees everywhere.  A true paradise.  The only drawback for me is the continual rain for at least 6 months of the year.

Endtimesgal I know what you mean it really is a paradise up there. Even with the rain it could be a good location -
once earth changes settle down. There should be more life, as you say plants, game and water...
- Yowbarb
...

here are the four which I had previously mentioned. Ebay land ads has its own topic. - Barb T.

•   http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/index.php     Cheap Land In America
•   http://www.survivalrealty.com/ ..............................Survival Reality
•   http://www.landcentral.com/ ..................................Land Central
•   http://www.landandfarm.com/ ............................... Land and Farm
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on October 16, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
I love these links and I often go to them myself.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 16, 2012, 11:08:16 AM
I love these links and I often go to them myself.

Oh that's good!
Post more here if you find some which look good.
I go to them because I have not purchased my survival land yet..
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 18, 2012, 11:38:15 PM
I personally think Idaho would be a great location for a survival place.  I used to live just outside Boise and have camped all over the place within 100 miles.  It is beautiful with abundant water, trees, and actually reminded me a lot of central Oregon in many ways.  There are also lots of hot springs there, so I am sure there are volcanoes which could wake up, that is the only drawback that I could see, but I personally believe there are volcanoes in many places in North America that we are no longer aware of.

Endtimesgal that must have been wonderful living there...
The whole Pacific Northwest is full of volcanoes so we will hope they will just keep on sleeping
peacefully...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 18, 2012, 11:44:22 PM
I've been posting land ads and sites...with the understanding everyone needs to check them out themself...
I did find two bad reviews for Land Central, which looked so good to me...
Sometimes competitiors will put anonymous criticism and "customer reviews" online.

http://www.complaintsboard.com/byurl/landcentral.com.html  complaints...

Land Central, Radius Mamgement companies...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 09, 2013, 11:49:18 PM
"No restrictions to type of home!" - Yowbarb
....................................................................................

http://www.survivalrealty.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-search.cgi?tag=land&blog_id=1  Survival Realty


7.6 acres in Southern Middle Tennessee at the end of a private gravel road. Nice property to get away and homestead. No restrictions to type of home.

Price is only $23,700 and I will even finance this with only $300 down to cover paperwork fees. Payment for example on a 20 year term would be $228.71 monthly. You can finance shorter term or up to a 30 year term. No prepayment penalties. Warranty deed free and clear provided whenever land is paid off.

Some open, and good trees. Level to rolling land. Tons of deer and turkey in the area. Located in Wayne County outside of Wayensboro, TN. There is power at the land if you wanted to hook up someday. Additional 8+ acres next to this if you wanted more acreage.
 
Feel free to call or email with any questions. Simple process and can be done via mail with notarized signatures. I don't do credit checks or any other hassles. First one in with the $300 gets it!

(http://survivalrealty.com/images/shannonsmith/img1.jpg)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 10, 2013, 12:01:31 AM
Well it's not chickenfeed, the amount to come up with, for this property, but to me it looks like a terrific deal. A group of people might be able to get this. A person would have to find out for sure if there would be any restrictions on domes, underground shelters, etc.
- Yowbarb
...

Allegany Farm (Pennsylvania)

Remodeled Farm House and barn on 129+ Open and wooded acres in the Allegany Mountains of Northern Pennsylvania. Stocked pond, significant timber (natural growth), gravity fed pressurized spring water. Remote and secluded property but close enough to civilization to meet those needs. Perfect spot for beef, goats, dairy cattle or horses. Or just a private hunting retreat for a family or families. Listed at $529,000, including 50% of the Oild Gas and Mineral rights. Owner financing! Call United Country Realty Pioneers, Wellsboro PA, Darwin Ottolini. (570) 723 1600, (814) 334 5831 or (814) 367 7394 or visit

PHOTOS:
http://www.survivalrealty.com/2012/07/allegany-farm-pennsylvania.htmltwintiersrealestate.com or ucrepioneers.com

Beautiful!!  :)
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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 23, 2013, 03:09:42 PM
Apparently this land is still being offered. They are asking 99k. - Yowbarb
...

http://www.survivalrealty.com/2010/04/mineral-bluff-retreat-georiga.html

Mineral Bluff Retreat (Georiga)

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For those of you who can not leave the South Eastern U.S. for one reason or another, I offer a secluded, rural, retreat in the beautiful Appalachian Mountains of extreme North Georgia. The homestead is 13 miles from the quaint small town of Blue Ridge. One mile up a gently rising, county maintained, gravel road. 2.75 acres of beautiful mountain land, mostly mature hardwoods. Adjacent land is available by others. One visible neighbor and surrounded by 100s of acres of forest. Wildlife abounds.

House is 2000 sq. ft. custom frame 3/2, remodeled kit, great room with loft, mud room, laundry room, much storage, huge deck. Room enough for a couple families. Main heat is wood burning stove in great room. Back up is wall mounted propane heaters. Water is from a two year old private 245' deep well. Tested and water is perfect. Year round creek nearby but not on property.

Other amenities are a 1000 sf frame out building on slab with separate drive way and power. A 3000 sf organic garden. Fenced chicken coop and run. 8 x 16 under ground cold storage/safe room. A newly cleared area with fruit trees, grapes, blue berries. 12 x 16 covered firewood storage and 8 x 8 tool shed. Composting toilets. Rain water catchment systems, great solar system site.

House is totally livable and comfortable but needs a little repair and finish work such as finish exterior siding, soffit and fascia. Some electrical and minor plumbing need finishing.

2004 appraisal $227,000 as it was at the time. Much work and improvements since then.

Asking only $99,000. Also available completely furnished along with 4-wheeler and garden and yard equipment.

Contact: wcnitram@gmail.com for info or additional photos.

Categories:
Georgia,
 United States

 
http://www.survivalrealty.com/2010/04/mineral-bluff-retreat-georiga.html
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 24, 2013, 10:11:25 PM
19 acres. No zoning restrictions.
Pls see page for details. Auction going on for down payment. Price of parcel is about 44,000 and owner is selling with monthly payments. No zoning restrictions on building in the area. You would have to make sure from seller you could put in a survival shelter etc. while it is being paid off. I think that should be fine. Looks like a possibly good location and deal...You would need to check it out.
- Yowbarb  Be sure to read all details...
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Read item description or contact seller for details.  See all details.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SOUTHERN-MISSOURI-OZARKS-CABIN-19-ACRES-SPRING-WOODED-BEAUTIFUL-TERMS-/150982155253?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D154%26meid%3D5117285489539519047%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1091%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D230916424332%26#viTabs

SOUTHERN MISSOURI OZARKS CABIN ON 19 ACRES, SPRING, WOODED,BEAUTIFUL, TERMS!!

Private, Quiet,Lots of Deer and Turkey,SPRING and Creek

Seller :    homesteadcrossinginc (97)    100% Positive feedback

"There are no building restrictions, building codes, or zoning in Oregon County. You can do what you want!  Taxes run about $80.00 a year!!"

"The terms on this one are simple. You are bidding on the down payment only!!!

The sale price of the property is only $43,900.00!

The amount of your winning bid will be subtracted from the $43,900.00. The payments are just $440 a month on a lease/purchase with half of each payment, plus the down payment and anything else you wish to pay all coming off the sales price for three years. After that I will finance the remaining balance at $440 a month, including 9.75% interest until paid for with no balloons and no prepayment penalty."

Winning bidder to send a money order, cashier's check or with a credit or debit card on our website 72 hours after close of auction for the winning bid plus the first month's payment of $440. There are no other fees.
 
If you do not have an e-Bay rating of 5 or more please e-mail me before bidding to avoid having your bid canceled.  
It is very hard to find a nice parcel with trees, a nice setting, close to town with a creek, well and electric. Here is your chance to own a fine part of the Missouri Ozarks and on easy terms to boot."

Thanks,

Ed and Leah
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 24, 2013, 10:26:30 PM
Update 29 January note on page said "Ended." So not sure if that means it's sold...
- Yowbarb

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hunters-Paradise-20-Acres-Mountains-Colorado-Near-Royal-Gorge-/321048648212?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D154%26meid%3D5117652853324563195%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1091%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D230916424332%26

Hunter's Paradise - 20+ Acres in The Mountains of Colorado Near Royal Gorge

Seller :     linuxmiket (3)   Positive feedback: 100%

Time left:    4d 13h (Jan 29, 201311:50:11 PST)

Current bid:   US $11,000.00
Reserve price not met

 [ 18 bids ]

Enter US $11,100.00 or more

Price:   US $23,000.00
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 29, 2013, 10:13:55 AM
I haven't mentioned this in awhile: Mother Earth News has a section called Land For Sale, too.
- Yowbarb
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http://www.motherearthnews.com/    Home page, Mother Earth News

http://www.landsofamerica.com/landsconnector/mother-earth-news/ 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 31, 2013, 05:34:41 PM
I am not plugging any particular company -
I find this Mogollon Rim to be a fascinating place...


http://www.mogollonrim.com/land.htm 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 01, 2013, 12:34:21 AM
Another auction on some mountain land. As with all deals the buyer needs to be sure he can make use of the land for his survival retreat, unemcumbered with regulations.
Beautiful views!
I don't see info on the price they want a cash sale...Contact owner his info in ad... - Yowbarb
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/18-65-Acres-Mountain-Property-With-MILLION-DOLLAR-VIEWS-MAKE-OFFER-/281057344193?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D154%26meid%3D5281947929973745880%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D3%26sd%3D261154868587%26#viTabs

18.65 Acres Mountain Property "With MILLION DOLLAR VIEWS" "MAKE A OFFER"

"SELLING FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR" "MAKE A OFFER"

Seller:    241kachina (80)   100% Positive feedback

Item condition:

Time left:   5d 18h (Feb 06, 201319:00:23 PST)

Current bid:   US $5,000.00
Reserve price not met
 [ 23 bids ]

Item specifics
Seller State of Residence: California

Zip/Postal Code: 81152

Property Address:  ONDERDONK RD

Type:  Homesite, Lot

State/Province: Colorado      Zoning: Residential

City: SAN LUIS     Acreage: 18.65

DETAILS:   

18.65 Acres Mountain Property in Southern Colorado

One of the largest lots in the area close to Forbes Park. What make this property so appealing "no association fees" "no time limit to build" "no property maintenance" Property has a large area to build your Dream Cabin.
 



Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 01, 2013, 12:44:35 AM
San Luis Colorado -possibly the oldest town in Colorado... over 7,000 ft elevation...
About 190 miles east of Durango.
- Yowbarb

Photo..
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2013, 02:20:28 PM
Yowbarb Note:
By mistake I put a few land posts here that should have gone in the Ebay Topic.
We have a separate Topic specifically for land sold on Ebay, here in this same Board.
It is called EBAY AUCTIONS: FOOD, MREs, SUPPLIES AND LAND.
Link:
http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=246.msg70253#msg70253

More land ads not from Ebay will follow here.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
Yowbarb Note: I am not plugging any particular company. This company states it specializes in survival sites so that might cut out a lot of the restrictions, zoning and other__ __ right from the beginning.
Interesting ad below. Not sure if that parcel can be divided into a smaller piece of acreage to purchase. Worth a try.
...
http://www.survivalrealty.com/  Survival Realty

SurvivalRealty.com

A directory of listing agents, agencies, and property owners specializing in survival retreats."


Secluded Retreat Farmland - 856 Acres - Juliaetta, ID - Gary Bergen

•856 acres - over 150 tillable acres
•Private end of the road location
•Year round-stream and wind power potential
•Partially fenced, leased for grazing
•Asking $898,000 - $1,109 per acre!

Amazing, secluded property only 30 minutes from Moscow & Lewiston & 5 minutes from Juliaetta, ID (pop. 587). Some marketable timber, approx. 200 acres of farmland. Gorgeous building sites. And endless wildlife! Deer, elk, bear, turkeys...you name it! This property has numerous uses: small farm, dream home with your own hunting land, year round cattle grazing, or get some buddies together and purchase for your own private hunting land! Currently leased for cattle grazing.

Gary Bergen, prior State Trooper/firearms instructor-armorer/outdoorsman/marksman/Realtor. Along with residential sales, I specialize in recreation ground and have found myself a nitch in the survivalist market. I have helped folks find their perfect survival retreat quickly and with the utmost of discretion. I have lived in Idaho most of my 41 years, with most of that in the Lewiston, ID area giving me an extremely keen knowledge of the area. I know what's defensible, self sustainable, and I won't waste your time. Call (208) 816-1750 or email gbergen@21priceright.com.

MORE ABOUT: http://www.survivalrealty.com/2013/04/secluded-retreat-farmland-856.html

A little more info and more photos on page...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2013, 02:32:37 PM
That last location is not far from the Canadian border. It's over 500 miles west of Yellowstone so it may be in a safe zone...
I couldn't say on something like that. Lovely area...
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2013, 02:45:09 PM
Previous location may or may not have karst topography...
Juliaetta Idaho is up in the neck - looking region of Idaho. Check it out on google and consult a geologist.
Here is a map of the US showing karst topography in green,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2013, 02:57:26 PM
This is a better - sized image of karst topography in the US...
Below that, a capture of the US map on google maps. Far right, cut off the Gulf of St Lawrence.
Karst would likely be far less stable and have sinkholes etc.
- Yowbarb
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http://www.uwec.edu/jolhm/Cave2006/Karst.html
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 28, 2013, 07:10:40 PM
These people might have some useful ideas,
Yowbarb
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http://www.survivalrealty.com/2013/04/survival-retreat-consulting-id.html

SurvivalRetreatConsulting.com (ID, MT, WA, WY)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 28, 2013, 07:13:49 PM
http://www.survivalrealty.com/united-states/oklahoma/

Rural Tulsa Retreat (Oklahoma)

35 miles NE of Tulsa, OK. Ten acres fenced, rural, secluded, wooded, wildlife, well water. Mobile home 14 x 70, master bedroom, 2 small bedrooms, 2 bath. 4 outbuildings (2 unattached garages), chicken coop. Fenced dog pen in backyard.

Also on property is half finished dome home 5000-6000 sq ft with basement and attached 3 car garage. Inside mostly framed, partially wired. $215,000. Contact che1200@wildblue.net for more information.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 29, 2013, 08:01:30 AM
If I bought that property above with the domes/partially-built domes:
•   I would reinforce them and put concrete all over them,
•   setting in ventilation
•   and installing thick plastic windows, deeply set in.
•   Set up metal shutters for inside and outside the windows,
•   and I wouldn't have many windows.
•   I would put steel cables on the buildings set down into concrete then –
•   berm earth over at least part of the domes.
•   Set sod and plants on top of the earth.
•   Would set in lots of trees for privacy.

The image below is just an example but I would not want the windows to be torn out by high wind so they would need to be set in more with thick strong plastic. Needed always: Reinforcements inside and out for doors and window. No point in having a dome if the wind tears through and drags everything and everyone out the broken windows...
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 29, 2013, 08:31:21 AM
http://www.domediva.com

Image:  http://www.domediva.com/wp-content/uploads/dome.jpg


http://offgridsurvival.com/ultimatebugoutpropertysurvivalretreat/ 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on April 29, 2013, 09:29:15 AM
I agree with you Barb, I like domes a lot.  What about homes built into a hill?  I have seen many great unusual homes on this show called "Extreme Homes" on HGTV, love people who think outside the box.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 29, 2013, 10:18:29 AM
I agree with you Barb, I like domes a lot.  What about homes built into a hill?  I have seen many great unusual homes on this show called "Extreme Homes" on HGTV, love people who think outside the box.
Hi Endtimesgal!  :)
I also like homes built into a hill.
Read that, for reasons of strength the geodesic domes, reinforced are the best shape. I had also read
a concrete circle is very strong. Whatever the shape and reinforcement is...the structure to hold up to the weight of the earth and earth movements up/down side to side...and sliding...
All people can do is try...the reinforced dome gives the best chances of survival I feel ...
One thing to remember people need to have a digging tool stored on the inside. So where people know
where it is. Rechargeable...generator whatever works. Rope and other tools... - Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 29, 2013, 10:27:53 AM
This might work if there is enough underground water or possible snow runoff from somewhere...it is over 5,000 feet...Yowbarb
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http://www.survivalrealty.com/2013/04/getaway-acreage-in-northern-ar.html

Get-Away Acreage in Northern Arizona
 
10 acres of beautiful rolling ranch land, dotted with cedar/juniper, with easy access from a main highway (Interstate 40). Very few neighbors in this mostly virgin, scenic area, yet close enough to access larger towns like Kingman, AZ or the gambling town of Laughlin on the banks of the Colorado River. This property is zoned 2 acre minimum in Yavapai County Arizona, which allows for any type of site built homes, as well as manufactured. 5,500 feet in elevation makes for mild summers in Arizona. Priced at only $13,900 terms - $206/month with 20% down - or discount for cash buyers. Off grid living.

Please check our site for additional photos and information: myazland.com

You can contact our agent Rex Clark at (928) 308-0700.

Yowbarb Note on the photo: It doesn't look this green! Image on ad shows tan-colored grass.
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http://survivalrealty.com/images/howardmesaaz/img2.jpg
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 09, 2013, 02:58:02 AM
Yowbarb Note: Posting this. I don't have time at the moment to check out possibility of flooding or other factors. Looks like it could be a good survival retreat. Everyone has to do their due diligence.
A couple of images below. Good Luck All.
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http://www.survivalrealty.com/2012/09/illinois-river-ranch-oklahoma.html

Illinois River Ranch (Oklahoma)
Eastern Oklahoma rural vacation property for sale at amazingly low prices of $750-$1,250 an acre. Very low taxes and annual dues. Lot sizes are mostly between 2.5 to 5 acres. This is platted rural land, outside any city limits, that is suitable for homes, cabins, rural retreats, camping and/or hunting. The Illinois River Ranch is currently selling approximately 40+ lots out of a 1,200+ lot development, covering about 3,600 acres. Many unique and different tracts of land to choose from, accessible by privately maintained roads. Electric and rural water is available, or you can drill your own well. This is mostly wooded hill top land immediately adjacent to the Illinois River near Chewey, Oklahoma. Year round canoeing, fishing, and other great recreational opportunities. Amazing views of river, mountains and area farmland. Many amenities, including use of common areas, come with property owner membership. For more information check out our website IRRPOA.COM, or email Andrew Waldron at IrishAJW@aol.com.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 12, 2013, 05:01:25 AM
Yowbarb Note:
The purpose of this Topic is just to provide the reader with some ideas about a place to go in the
event of catastrophic earth changes.
(Possible locations of survival land and shelters to put on that land.
I am not an expert on, and do not plug any particular companies. I quickly post what catches my
eye, in the hopes it will help someone.
Please join in on the discussion and post your ideas here. If anyone needs help in posting or in posting photographs or articles, etc. message me on the Board.
Example of one such location is below. My thoughts: As long as there is some underground water, this location could work. Elevation 5,579 ft (1,700 m.)  At that price, 75,000 several people could split the price and they and their children have enough room. There could be a central area created, with an underground shelter under it.
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http://www.survivalrealty.com/   

77 Acres and Building - Snowflake, AZ - Integrity Realty & Assoc LLC
 
"Beautiful 77 acres + 30 x 40 steel building with height of 14' 3.5" 10 x12 front end wall opening. Permits available. 2500 gal water tank/30 gal per min 445" deep well. Three bedroom septic installed two water hydrants (yard type), fenced, other outbuildings. Generator and basic restroom at the metal building. Property being sold as is and in its current condition, with no warranties expressed or implied. Buyer to verify all information independently during inspection period. Asking $75,000! See all our listings and a tour of Snowflake, AZ at www.integrityrealty.net If we don’t have it we will search for what you want!"
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 14, 2013, 06:56:15 AM
Link to an ad and some ideas, farther down the page
Yowbarb
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http://www.missilebases.com/properties

http://www.missilebases.com/russellkansas 

Communications Bunker site  Russell, KS

Communications bunker with 8,800 sq. ft. of nuclear hardened underground floor-space.  13.1 acres m/l. 177 ft. tower with income potential.  Structure is clean and ready for immediate use with some new paint and tile work.   Creative financing possible with significant down payment. 

Price Reduced!  ($750,000.)  now $550,000.

Yowbarb Notes:
•   The Pedens specialize in missile sites for sale to be used as survival homes.
•   I cannot attest to how good their properties are –
•   They have been doing this for several years.
•   This underground bunker for sale looks like it would stand up to any survival scenario.
•   Buyer would have to have it all inspected of course.
•   The ad says initial cleanup has been done. I would check it for mold, radiation etc.
•   I would check the ground water.
•   Potentially a great deal for a group of people to share.
•   If I was going to buy it, I'd put trees on the perimeter for privacy.
•   There would be no discussion with locals on the project.
•   The “shore story” would be people on the property are working on it, readying it for sale.
•   Pleasant but distant.
•   Any work crews working on it would be part of the survival group which is living there.
•   Besides the cost of the property the cost of further renovation would have to be figured in,
•   For a group sharing the cost of purchasing and setting it up.
•   Initial cost $550,000 plus possible closing costs of up to 10,000 possible
•   Renovation I am guessing another ten grand or maybe just the cost of materials.
•   (Painting. Minor construction to create more rooms, counters built-in cabinets shelves etc.)
•   There should be an extra heavy duty generator on hand for the lift especially.
•   some way to get back up above ground if the lift failed.
•   Maybe there are already stairs all the way up.
•   Note:  Any group going in on a survival site should figure in the cost of water and food but
•   It is really important to secure the site and start working on it.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 05, 2013, 08:22:44 AM
http://www.missilebases.com/properties
   
NEWLY available Nike site, sale pending

Near Kansas City, MO

Surrounded by gently rolling hills, this 16.8 acre site is currently an income-producing business, which could continue to pay the bills, if buyer so desires. Everything about this property is well-maintained. NIKE KC-30 has virtually unlimited potential for residential agricultural and/or commercial development. All three missile magazines are dry, clean and have working elevators and overhead doors – an extremely rare find, indeed! Friendly and changeable zoning codes, low taxes and an ideal rural setting in easy commuting distance to all Kansas City has to offer make this property a hot commodity that is sure to sell quickly.  Owner financing is negotiable for qualified buyers who are able to make a minimum 50% down payment. If interested, act quickly to avoid disappointment..


Price  $525,000.
Click here for more photos and info. http://www.missilebases.com/nike-indiana
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 19, 2013, 07:44:28 PM
Just a quick link to  Land Central June 15th Foreclosed Properties

http://www.landcentral.com/foreclosure-fifteenth?page=2
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 09, 2013, 07:37:22 PM
http://www.landwatch.com/Pennsylvania_land_for_sale/Blair_County   All or part of Blair County is in the Allegheny Mountains ...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 10, 2013, 06:58:02 AM
When I post a real estate company...realize I have no idea if they are good or not. Random posting.

We have another Topic Ebay. On Ebay the sellers are rated. Not seeing much PA land on there so I also have a couple of topics where I post land sites and ads links. My feeling is Ebay has been selling a lot of land...
- Yowbarb
...

Topic: EBAY AUCTIONS: FOOD, MREs, SUPPLIES AND LAND  (Read 10023 times)

http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=246.0 

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 10, 2013, 08:05:48 AM
I just found this:   GovernmentAuctions.org

http://www.governmentauctions.org/?ref=google&camp=8&keyw=governmentauctions+com&gclid=CKDrvcGTpbgCFUVp7AodKncA9w

Some of the sources of land ads, from previous posts:

http://www.survivalrealty.com/    SurvivalRealty.com "A directory of listing agents, agencies, and property owners specializing in survival retreats."

http://www.landwatch.com/Land_For_Sale

http://www.landandfarm.com/   Land and Farm

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/8204202

WWW.CHEAPLANDINAMERICA.COM 

http://www.realtor.com/

Mother Earth News connector to landsofamerica:

http://www.landsofamerica.com/landsconnector/mother-earth-news/index.cfm?action=wantsNeeds#axzz2YecDfp65 

http://fasrp.sc.egov.usda.gov/fasrp/mainAction.do

http://www.foreclosure.com/cheap_land.html   Foreclosure.com    cheap land



Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 08, 2013, 10:54:14 PM
http://homestead.org/NewIndexes/Directory.htm

How to Buy Land Very Cheaply

Even in this day and age, unwanted land still exists, for those who know how to find it.


by   Neil Shelton 

It seems as if everybody wants land, and those that have it want more.  I suppose there are a few exceptions to this rule, but not many, because even a monk needs a monastery.

That's why land prices are always high, and why some folks feel that if they can't  afford land now, they'll never be able to in the future.  Tax sales may be a dandy way for the state to collect its due, but the buyer rarely ends up with marketable title and foreclosures often prove to be far more trouble than they're worth.

After a time, we get the idea that we need to accept land which is deficient in some way; property near a land fill maybe, or without deeded access.  We feel that we must pay some other cost in lieu of the cash we don’t have to spend in order to get a good deal.

Or at least that’s the hair-shirt approach.  In fact, the best way to save hot, steaming piles of cash on a land purchase is simply to find someone whose plans have changed.   

For example: Arlene met Bob at Woodstock.  Together they planned to leave New Haven as soon as Arlene finished her degree in anthropology.  They had an idea to move out into the country and let their lives regress to the Stone Age. They'd live nude except for animal skins and make their living foraging for roots and berries.  After a few years, they'd write a book and become famous.  So, with some money from her inheritance, they bought forty acres of wooded land in the Midwest with a really charming cave, and begin to fashion their future. 

However it turned out that Bob had uncouth personal habits and Arlene was a big of a nag.  Thus, it came to be that Arlene and Bob gradually grew apart and went their separate ways.

That was years ago, but Arlene still has that property.  She hardly ever thinks about it though, except when the annual tax bills come in.  Even then, the tax bills on vacant woods seem so cheap compared to her Atlanta condominium, that she just pays them without much thought.  The price she paid for the land back then wouldn’t buy her a space in the parking lot today, so she doesn't view it as much of an asset.

I suppose you could say that Arlene’s lust for land has been fairly sated by this time.

So you’re thinking, “That’s a great story Neil, and if I had the rest of the morning to waste, I’d sure like to hear the the whole thing, but since I don’t, and since I don’t know anybody like you’re describing in the area where I want to buy land…”

Bear with me a moment.

You can find people like Arlene.  It’s simple.   

But first, you’ll need a couple of tools.

Tools You’ll Need for Buying Land Very Cheaply

Tool Number One. -   A County Plat Book.  Each county in every state makes their real estate ownership data available to private mapping companies who make maps detailing all the land ownership in the county.  You can usually find these for sale in one or more of the office in the county courthouse.  They tend to run $40-80.

You can get plat books online from Marcelline Mapping. They have maps in six different states (MO, IA, IL, OK, AR, LA).  If you live someplace else, you can probably find a company online that serves your state.  Marcelline offers some of their books on CD for a lower price.

Here’s a page out of a typical county plat book showing the name of each landowner and the number of acres in each parcel.
 
Tool Number Two - Maps. It would be a nice idea if you have plenty of maps of your area.  I used to buy these on paper too, but now I find that I can get what I need online.

Topographic maps and aerial photography are online at MSR Maps.   

I also find Google Earth invaluable and getting better all the time.

Throughout this article, I've placed different views of the same forty-acre parcel on several different maps, to give you an idea of how much you can learn about a particular property without ever leaving home.


Tool Number Two - Maps. It would be a nice idea if you have plenty of maps of your area.  I used to buy these on paper too, but now I find that I can get what I need online.

Topographic maps and aerial photography are online at MSR Maps.   

I also find Google Earth invaluable and getting better all the time.

Throughout this article, I've placed different views of the same forty-acre parcel on several different maps, to give you an idea of how much you can learn about a particular property without ever leaving home.

continued from page one


Tool Number Three - The County Assessor's Office.

The last tool you needs comes to you free with your real estate taxes.  It's the county Assessor's Office, which keeps track of who owns what land in the county in order to assess property taxes.

That means that you can find the names of the owners of the blocks in your plat book, as well as their addresses.

Oh, something I should probably have mentioned sooner: this method is sure-fire and proven, but it does have a couple of drawbacks.

Drawback Number One: There's work involved.

 Drawback Number Two: You'll still need some money to buy land.  That's why this method works.  All those other methods that don't involve you having money don't work.

What you want at the Assessor's Office is the name and address of all landowners with out-of-area addresses; the further out-of-area the better.

Arrive at the assessor's office with a friendly smile, tell the attendant that you'd like to copy some addresses for landowners in Sections X and Y and could she show you to the appropriate book(s)?  (Later, you can ask for Sections Z and A if you don't get enough names.  I don't recommend that you go in sounding as if you're going to be there all day.)

I suggest you try to define your area to four or five mile-square sections.  Using your topography map, pick the sections you're interested in, write down the number, township and range and take that information to the County Assessor's Office.  (You might want to see my article on how to read legal descriptions before you go.) 



Once you have the names and addresses of each out-of-area owner of vacant land in the areas you've chosen, go back to your maps and see how many of the properties appear to meet your broad criteria.   

If your land needs are very specific, then you're going to be doing more work than if they're fairly general.  For example, if you just have to have frontage on a stream, then you'll want to concentrate on locating streams as they cross properties in the plat book.

You can learn quite a bit about the properties you're interested in without leaving home.  I've posted several pictures of the same forty-acre parcel here showing what you can learn from maps on your desktop.   

You'll be able to eliminate several of your choices using the maps, but when you get down to the most serious candidates, you'll want to go visit the properties in person.

Be sure to take a topography map and compass with you, and be careful to avoid trespassing on neighboring properties whose owners may be more close at hand than the owners of the properties you're looking at.

Once you've gathered your addresses and very thoroughly examined all the candidate properties, it's time to go back home and write a few letters.

To each of the out-of-area owners you've selected, you send a letter something like this:
 

Arlene Doosis

232433 Swansong Street, Apt 98

Atlanta GA 20144

Dear Ms. Doosis:

I am writing to enquire about your 40-acre property in Polecat County.   

I am in the market for a property such as this and I would be willing to pay you $[give your specific offer] for your land, should you be interested in selling.

If you would consider selling this land, please contact me at the address below.

Sincerely,

You

Note that we don't dwell on formalities here.  It's important that you make the deal very straightforward.
 
Perhaps now you see the tricky part.  You have to be sure enough of yourself and what you're willing to pay to put it up front.

I recommend that you may want to send out as many as a couple of dozen of these letters, perhaps in groups of five or six.

When you start mailing them out, you will mostly get any of three sorts of responses.  They'll either ignore your letter completely, accept your terms, or inform you that the property is worth much more than whatever you said you'd give, which you may treat as an offer to negotiate.

So are we taking advantage of someone here?  Not at all. 

Let's take a moment to talk about the concept of what land is worth.

Nobody knows.

That is, there is the profession of appraising real estate and while that may be a noble and scientific profession, when they assign a price to a particular parcel, that does not mean that they will give the owner that much money for the land in question, only that similar sales in the area (if any) have suggested what the price might be.

In our exercise here, you are putting yourself in the position of a much more authoritative appraiser because you're backing up your appraisal with cash.

Cash has a lot of appeal to Arlene.  Even though her land has value, if she wants to sell it, she needs either to list it with a real estate agent or make the effort to sell it herself.

The majority of real estate agents prefer spending their time promoting larger, improved properties, which offer them several times the commission for the same or less effort.  In a not-particularly-stellar market, Arlene's property could wait years for a buyer.

If she has the wherewithal to advertise it herself, she'll need either computer savvy or money, both would be best, and a certain amount of time to devote to the effort.     

If you send a letter such as described to a dozen people in this economy, at the very least one of them is going through some sort of personal crisis and would much prefer to have some cash than a piece of land that sits unwanted and unloved, perhaps in another state.  I will all but guarantee you that you will be doing something to help out another person in a very real way.

I once bought a piece of land from a dear old woman who just wanted the money to help her grand-daughter with college tuition.  She told me that the bus driver she'd talked to on her trip to the closing said, "I'll bet your land's worth more than he's giving and she said, 'I'll take that bet, because I've owned it for thirty years and no-one's ever offered to give me anything for it.'"

There is no limit as to how low your offer can be, but it should be within reason, or it's likely to be rejected out of hand.  The landowner only has to log on to the internet to compare your offer with what brokers are selling land for, so you can't be senselessly low, but since you're offering cash right now, most people will be willing to sell for significantly less to have a deal right now that doesn't include paying any commissions.     

You can determine what is within reason to your own mind by simply perusing similar property on the your state's Multi-list sites.  Read forty want-ads and visit five or six of the properties and you'll have about as good an idea of what that sort of land is worth as anyone else.

There's something else nice to know when you're thinking about how much to offer, many times the landowner's deed will specifically state how much he or she paid for the property.  Knowing how much they stand to make can help you in making your decision of how much you want to pay. 

You can find a copy of the deed at the County Recorder's Office.  If that doesn't state the sale price, you may find an old mortgage on record that would give you some idea of the old price.  Also, in some jurisdictions, revenue stamps are affixed to deeds in proportion to the sale price.   

When you find a buyer who agrees to your price, you need to take charge of closing the transaction.  You don't need an attorney here, just find a title company in the county seat.  They'll examine the title for you, distribute the costs and close the sale for you.   

Good luck

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on August 09, 2013, 10:57:10 AM
Great post Barb, thanks!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on August 09, 2013, 12:02:30 PM
Great post Barb, thanks!

 ;)
Now I have to try and actually do that!
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 06, 2013, 11:58:50 PM
Yowbarb Note:
Once again I am back to the process of looking for a survival spot, within 8 hours of where we are.
I had wanted to get farther north and west but maybe it makes more sense to not have to go more than 8 hours in a bugout.
My daughter who shares house and expenses and who is interested in trying to get some land - she seems to think we shouldn't try to go much farther.
As part of looking I come across various ads.
Going to share the sites I find.
Here is one, not sure I ever posted it,  Land Watch  

http://www.landwatch.com/Land_For_Sale

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 07, 2013, 06:08:47 AM
I thought I had zeroed in on a good location last night, then I took a closer look. The place is full of dams...
So unless it will all drain down the other way, which I don't know, that won't be it...
Never can tell if a dam would burst in extreme conditions...earth changes...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on December 07, 2013, 08:00:31 AM
Yowbarb:  I agree, being surrounded by dams would not be a good thing.  I think it is important to find your place very soon, good luck with your search.  If I remember right, aren't you in Florida?
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 07, 2013, 11:50:20 PM
Yowbarb:  I agree, being surrounded by dams would not be a good thing.  I think it is important to find your place very soon, good luck with your search.  If I remember right, aren't you in Florida?

Yes, and it takes a little research to figure out there is a dam or big river or other potential hazard nearby.
Thanks I could use some luck.
 :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 12, 2013, 10:15:55 AM
Just another factor to consider when picking out your survival place: Radon in the ground and groundwater.

Wikipedia reference:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radon#In_drinking_water

Map:
(http://pubs.usgs.gov/circ/circ1214/images/ucrb_fig09b.gif)

http://pubs.usgs.gov/circ/circ1214/images/ucrb_fig09b.gif

US Map farther below that

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 12, 2013, 12:15:45 PM
I haven't looked on this site for awhile. Here are a few links and images  -
Visit the blog...
......................................................................  

http://www.survivalrealty.com/    Survival Realty

http://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php/Land-Blog/Survival/   Survival Land Blog

Blog: Country Places to offer Prepper Properties

October 15, 2013  Written by Andy Davis

Country Places to offer Prepper Properties

For over 30 years, Country Places has been offering owner-financed land to those seeking a piece of the American Dream without the barriers presented by banks and mortgage companies.

Our properties are great for those seeking self-sufficiency or preparing for potential disasters. Now, we're excited to offer even more specialized properties to 'preppers'.

These properties could be used as a bug out location, a weekend getaway or a homestead and will feature a 40' shipping container on a hillside location.  Some properties will include improvements like terracing for growing food and raising animals.

Prepper Property Overview

Strategically placed shipping container looking down over the property


Camouflaged entrance and parking area with trail to homesite


Education about how to further develop the properties to produce food and water


Affordable: $600 down and payments of $250-$290 monthly


National Preppers and Survivalists Expo

We are participating in the NPS Expo in Atlanta on October 19th and 20th at the North Atlanta Trade Center.

Natural disasters, man-made events and global unrest can trigger panic and disrupt our social or political order without warning. Preparing for such emergencies can help you and your family survive if ever an event occurs.

The National Preppers and Survivalists Expo is a two-day event focusing on the preparedness, self reliance, supplies and survival skills that are crucial when a catastrophe strikes. The Expo provides a forum where Emergency Preparedness Professionals (EPP's) and survivalists can learn techniques designed for every skill set.

Come join us and see more than 200 exhibits, 100 classes and over 8,500 preppers and survivalists for this Emergency Preparedness mega-event.

This year’s forums are co-created with the American Preppers Network and sessions include these topics and more.

Global Threats


Crises Management


Emergency Communications


Economic Stability


Stages of Recovery


Sustainable Food Supplies


Other events include daily tours of a bomb shelter, first-aid training, Junior Survivalists certification, and a casting call for DOOMSDAY PREPPERS.

Check Us Out!

Stop by our booth at the NPS Expo to see a scale model of our prepper properties and find out how to buy your own bug out or getaway location!

http://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php/Property/wildcat-ridge-somerset-181.html

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 12, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
http://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php/Property-Types/suitable-for-campers-unrestricted.html
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 13, 2013, 05:52:20 PM
I am zeroing in on Tennessee land, partly because I can get there in ten hours.
There isn't any location closer I would care to get stuck at.
(Driving north from Florida.)
Here is a screen shot of an ad...
I just hope when these ads say minimal restrictions it means that. I was dismayed to read one ad which said two residences per plot. Well what is the point if you can't put your group of people there, so I am looking. I am thinking if the plot is 3 acres or more they won't be icky-picky about that.
Good Luck,
Yowbarb
...

http://www.survivalrealty.com/
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: fishes5 on January 02, 2014, 07:58:20 PM
Any one in Alaska have any ideas for getting together with like minded folks to meet up with?

Thanks
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 02, 2014, 08:27:49 PM
Any one in Alaska have any ideas for getting together with like minded folks to meet up with?

Thanks

fishes5 - welcome to the Planet X Town Hall!  :)
We have Meetings topics set up in most regional Boards.
 
•   Go to: USA Survival Board  area
•   There is an Alaska USA  Board.
•   Under Alaska there is a Topic, Alaska Meetings
•   Link: http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=32.15#lastPost

Good Luck!
- Barb Townsend
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 18, 2014, 07:25:03 AM
http://www.survivalrealty.com/

Country Places specializes in rural and recreational land with 100% Owner Financing. We currently have land in Tennessee (10 counties), Kentucky (3 counties), southeast Virginia and Alabama (Madison County near Huntsville). For details about this land or other with owner financing call: (800) 239-LAND or (517) 416-0600, visit www.countryplacesinc.com.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: bk on February 22, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
Barb, Do not know if this belongs here or elsewhere?

10 Considerations for your Bug Out Location
Written by Jonathan Dick
If worse came to worse and the world was in chaos, where would you go?

Many people already have determined where they would go – a bug out location – a spot where they could lay low and live for a while if things got pretty bad. If you haven’t decided where you’d go during an emergency, or you already have an idea, here are a few points to consider.

1. How far away?
How far away is your bug out location going to be from your home? With some disasters it doesn’t need to be very far away. For example, a flood zone might only take up a few miles and you might be able to walk to your bug out location. Other disasters, like an economic disaster or nuclear one, might require you to get a little further away from your home.

2. What kind of shelter?
Once you get to your bug out location, what kind of shelter are you going to live in? Is there a house on the property? Are you going to be staying in a tent? The type of shelter that you have might affect how long you are able to stay in the location. If you have to go to your bug out location in the dead of winter, you might be moving if your only living in a tent.


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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 22, 2014, 11:59:46 PM
bk, your post is perfect here.
Thanks for the info!
 :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on February 23, 2014, 09:20:11 AM
BK, good points, I have thought about this so often and there are not easy answers.

 I worry most about three things:  1:  If there is a natural disaster, (earthquakes, etc.) will the roads be passable by vehicle?  2:  If it is an economic collapse, will the President declare martial law, and will the state borders be closed, (which would prevent me getting to my safe place, and will I be able to purchase additional gas?)  3:  Will I have to bug out on foot in the dead of winter?  (Lots of snow and freezing temperatures.)

I do not think staying in the cities will be an option, how long would a person have running water, electricity, and even if we do, how long before we are overtaken by rouge gangs who want to take what supplies we have, and possibly harm us in some way?) I personally think only those who stay under the radar in unpopulated places or in very small country communities where all the neighbors have banded together to survive will have the best chance of survival.

Many people I have talked with blow this off, saying "I will deal with it if it happens."  Which really means they think the odds are in their favor that nothing terrible will happen in their lifetime and they do not want to plan ahead. 

This kind of thinking will be greatly regretted later on.

This is why advance planning is so important, a Plan A, a Plan B, and possibly even a Plan C.  I must admit I do not have this in place myself, due to my advance age, being a single person, and living with family who are not believers and fit the above category of people.  I have supplies at my safe place, but it is now several hours away, most likely not going to help me unless I can get enough warning to leave ahead of time. 

Which brings up a good point.  It is imperative that we do not become complacent, and we must remain vigilant in watching the increasing signs that things are heating up.  This means keeping abreast of the developing economic picture as well as the many earth changes that are occurring.  Anyone who pays attention to these things can clearly see that things are so much worse than last year, or 2012, SOMETHING is developing for sure.

And then one must trust their instincts when their inner promptings say:  "it is time to bug out now!"  Better to have bugged out and then later return home than to wait until it is too late to leave at all.

The increase of meteorites alone is very telling.  Don't be taken in by the statements by "Officials" that this is a normal activity.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on March 11, 2014, 08:52:04 PM
Excellent post endtimesgal!  We all need to remain vigilant, and I just have to keep with my A and B plan, with the B plan being a much more fluid one, if you know what I mean...It has the many different components to it for several different "what if" situations.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on March 15, 2014, 12:28:48 AM
I happened to come across this website tonight.  I thought it was definitely interesting.  Hope you all get to check it out!!!  SurvivalRealty.com.   Please excuse if it had been posted before, without my knowing it!  ;D  Enjoy!

http://www.survivalrealty.com/

 I thought these two ads on there might be of interest to some of you... ;)


Walden Ridge Retreat - Dunlap, Tennessee


 
5 acres of pasture with spectacular views of Walden’s Ridge bordering the famous “Canoe the Sequatchie River” with 350’ of direct river frontage. Ease of access down to the water including your own gravel beach area. The property is 3 tiers leading down to the river so you can build high and dry on flat land with views to the river and 2nd tier is great for garden spot. Barbed wire fenced with metal gate at front so you can have livestock with water access. Soak in the tranquility that surrounds you but minutes away is nearby shopping & dining.

Priced to sell at $69,900 and owners may consider a short term 2 year owner finance with down payment and terms to qualified buyers. There is a $36,000 assumable mortgage with Farm Credit Services for qualified buyers.

For more information call: 423-504-6007 or email monti813@comcast.net

OR this one:  ;)  :)


Cherokee National Forest Acreage - Tellico Plains, Tennessee


 
4.9 peaceful acres bordering the Cherokee National Forest on one side and a large catfish pond on the other side ensures complete privacy yet only 8 miles from town for ease of shopping in a small community of approximately 800 people. The property is barbed wire fenced with a metal entry gate and gravel drive that leads to a 36’ metal RV carport with (2) 30 amp RV outlets at pole and a small storage shed at the rear of carport for equipment storage. The carport is nestled in behind a huge hedge of Mtn. Laurel shrubs and can’t been seen from the street.

There 2 creeks on the property with one flowing year round and is spring fed. 2/3 rds of the land is pasture which allows for large garden spots and the remaining is wooded with many wonderful building sites to consider. Septic field area and well areas have been approved and no other restrictions apply. Hike into the National Forest at the end of drive and enjoy miles of hiking & riding trails.

Priced to sell with improvements at $69,900 and owners may consider a short term 2 year owner finance with down payment and terms to qualified buyers.

For more information call: 423-504-6007 or email monti813@comcast.net

Read More: Cherokee National Forest Acreage - Tellico Plains, Tennessee
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on March 15, 2014, 03:36:21 AM
Just one more for now, these cabins look fantastic!  I know the Amish do similar things here.  Hubby and I looked at the sheds they make at one of the local Farm Shows.  Couldn't beat the quality and price anywhere!  I'm sure those cabins would be too.  Unfortunately it looks like this ad is for an Amish community not in PA.  ::)  But, I know they still will do all sorts of barns and such around here, so I'm sure I could truly get one if I had the cash!!  ;D

**Sorry, you will need to click the link to see the pics.***

SurvivalRealty.com

A directory of listing agents, agencies, and property owners specializing in survival retreats.

Custom-Built Cabin For Your New Retreat - Crazy Woman Realty

 
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THESE CABIN ARE IDEAL FOR YOUR HOMESTEAD! Preppers, Homesteaders, Self-reliant, Self-sufficient and Survivalist will find these cabins ideal as they are just the bones, no electrical or plumbing is standard. They will built to your custom size and you ship to your location and restand and finish to your desires and needs. Our local Amish have contracted with Crazy Woman Realty to sell their cabins! Amish cabins are hand crafted by Mr. Yoder on his property at the Hulett Settlement. Call Will 307-231-2050.

The second series pictured cabin is 16×24 with 6 foot covered deck and sunray accents. Wall construction is 8 inch, two sided round log, hand peeled, with pine plank flooring (loft only) and ceilings with R-19 in ceiling and 2 inch styrofoam insulation in floor. Log hand made stairs to loft. Windows are thermopane and door is hand built with primative hardware. Furniture not included. True Amish Cabin - no electrical or plumbing! Amish cabins will need to be relocated at your expense. Chinking is negotiable. Amish Cabins can be sized to move with/on your trailer or custom made to your size specifications.


These are other cabins and homes in various phases of completion or details.

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 (307) 467-4222
miss@crazywomanrealty.com

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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 15, 2014, 04:16:38 AM
Yes, good points BK, and also Entimesgal.  Much to think about.  Where to begin?

I know it might be a hassle, but if you ponder a particular location, and seem really drawn to it, is it feasible to do a practice run?  I know it seems like a lot of work to drive many miles from home, but imagine your surprise if you buy a place, sight unseen, and when it seems time to bug out, you arrive only to find something very different from what you expected. 

I certainly don't have any answers, but think the trial run to the area might be a good idea, while conditions are good.  If the area you select is nearby, you're really lucky!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 15, 2014, 08:56:25 AM
In my previous post, I erred, I think.   In re-reading posts, nobody said anything about buying a place sight unseen!  Wonder where my mind was when writing that! 

Anyway, I agree with that idea of Plan A, B and C.  Also, it seems a number of us have the problem of either being alone, or being with a partner who does not share interest or  concern some of these issues.  In addition to checking out dams, it probably would be good to see if fracking is being done.  Strangely, I never heard of fracking until a few years ago, and now it seems everywhere I go I read about another fracking disaster.  Pennsylvania, Texas, Arkansas, and who knows where else???
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 15, 2014, 09:07:51 AM
In my previous post, I erred, I think.   In re-reading posts, nobody said anything about buying a place sight unseen!  Wonder where my mind was when writing that! 

Anyway, I agree with that idea of Plan A, B and C.  Also, it seems a number of us have the problem of either being alone, or being with a partner who does not share interest or  concern some of these issues.  In addition to checking out dams, it probably would be good to see if fracking is being done.  Strangely, I never heard of fracking until a few years ago, and now it seems everywhere I go I read about another fracking disaster.  Pennsylvania, Texas, Arkansas, and who knows where else???
ilinda, you are bringing up some good points. Dams are definitely something to find out about. Sometimes I look at the area in google earth... sometimes goggle searching about dams in an area.
The fracking is a concern too...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 15, 2014, 03:59:27 PM
After looking about three times, I cannot seem to find the post I wanted to reply to.  It was within the last week or so and someone was talking about how it's time to start garden seeds and it would be good to discuss it like in years past.

Well, I'm new here but am also interested in talking about starting and growing nuts, fruits, and veggies.  In fact this year I learned something totally by accident.  For years I have tried to germinate almonds, with no success.  And nowadays it is hard to buy raw organic almonds due to the new USDA regulation that prevents almonds being sold raw, EXCEPT if sold by the actual growers.  Otherwise, you can be sure that even if labeled "Raw", they are most likely sterilized with ionizing radiation. 

We did find a source of raw organic almonds and bought several pounds, whiich we eat very slowly, so they last quite a while.  Well, last fall, perhaps November or so, I was wanting to snack on some almonds, but my teeth (have upper and lower partials) don't chew almonds well, so I decided to soak them overnight.  For some unknown reason I decided to soak them in raw organic whey, instead of water.  The next morning after soaking overnight, the almonds had swelled up more than I anticipated, and it was then that I made the decision to plant some of them, so searched on internet how to germinate almond seeds.  Basically soak overnight, plant in pots in nice potting soil, and "stratify" them in fridge over the winter or at least a month or two, then place on top of fridge or on counter at room temperature.  They should sprout soon.  I did everything as described, except I did soak them in the whey instead of water.

Well, in the last week I noticed tiny green leaflets in one "cell" and just this morning noted a second is trying to push up.  This is truly an exciting time because a couple of years ago I bought 4 almond trees, two of which promptly died.  A neighbor planted two and one died shortly thereafter.  I get the feeling the nursery trees might not all be hardy.  At any rate, if these continue, at least here's another shot at growing almonds. 

In the pic, the larger of the two germinating almonds is on the right, and the second one is so tiny it needs to be pointed out as in the cell to the upper left of the obvious green leaflets.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 15, 2014, 04:56:36 PM
After looking about three times, I cannot seem to find the post I wanted to reply to.  It was within the last week or so and someone was talking about how it's time to start garden seeds and it would be good to discuss it like in years past.

Well, I'm new here but am also interested in talking about starting and growing nuts, fruits, and veggies. 

Hi ilinda here are a couple places to start. I had started this Topic in 2010 and there is another good Topic which Enlightenme posted to, not long ago. Will add the links just above the Topic titles. - Yowbarb
.............................................................
Link: http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=349.90

SEEDS « on: April 06, 2010, started by Yowbarb

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SURVIVING the CHANGES  / Re: SEEDS
« by Yowbarb on January 16, 2014, 10:17:10 PM »

......  January 16, 2014, 09:07:32 PM  You need Heirloom seeds and save seeds after your first year crops they  ......
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Link:  http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2841.msg78822#msg78822

1 SURVIVING the CHANGES  / Re: Seeds to bring
« by enlightenme on March 12, 2014, 07:13:20 PM »

......  I was trying to decide what type of seeds I would pick up to throw in with my gotta have  ............  onions (though those are really hard to grow from seeds instead of sets), beets and carrots (root vegies  ............ , I think probably the best way to go looking for seeds that aren't GMO Monsanto and all that, is when  ............  get some of these growing, then you can save the seeds yourself and stockpile them. I've got a pile of  ......
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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 15, 2014, 05:02:19 PM
After looking about three times, I cannot seem to find the post I wanted to reply to.  It was within the last week or so and someone was talking about how it's time to start garden seeds and it would be good to discuss it like in years past.

Well, I'm new here but am also interested in talking about starting and growing nuts, fruits, and veggies.  In fact this year I learned something totally by accident.  For years I have tried to germinate almonds, with no success.  And nowadays it is hard to buy raw organic almonds due to the new USDA regulation that prevents almonds being sold raw, EXCEPT if sold by the actual growers.  Otherwise, you can be sure that even if labeled "Raw", they are most likely sterilized with ionizing radiation. 

We did find a source of raw organic almonds and bought several pounds, whiich we eat very slowly, so they last quite a while.  Well, last fall, perhaps November or so, I was wanting to snack on some almonds, but my teeth (have upper and lower partials) don't chew almonds well, so I decided to soak them overnight.  For some unknown reason I decided to soak them in raw organic whey, instead of water.  The next morning after soaking overnight, the almonds had swelled up more than I anticipated, and it was then that I made the decision to plant some of them, so searched on internet how to germinate almond seeds.  Basically soak overnight, plant in pots in nice potting soil, and "stratify" them in fridge over the winter or at least a month or two, then place on top of fridge or on counter at room temperature.  They should sprout soon.  I did everything as described, except I did soak them in the whey instead of water.

Well, in the last week I noticed tiny green leaflets in one "cell" and just this morning noted a second is trying to push up.  This is truly an exciting time because a couple of years ago I bought 4 almond trees, two of which promptly died.  A neighbor planted two and one died shortly thereafter.  I get the feeling the nursery trees might not all be hardy.  At any rate, if these continue, at least here's another shot at growing almonds. 

In the pic, the larger of the two germinating almonds is on the right, and the second one is so tiny it needs to be pointed out as in the cell to the upper left of the obvious green leaflets.

ilinda great post and thanks for sharing that info and images.
 :)
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on March 15, 2014, 09:22:23 PM
Also, What I usually do when I'm trying to find a topic, is go to the search feature (from the home page only) and enter the key words you remember.  That usually gets me there.  Or, you can look at the most recently posted topics/posts, at the bottom of the home page, and scroll back.  That's just a suggestion for you.  I really liked your post on the Almonds.  Thanks, and we'll get there...Happy Gardening 2014!! 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 16, 2014, 03:11:48 PM
Also, What I usually do when I'm trying to find a topic, is go to the search feature (from the home page only) and enter the key words you remember.  That usually gets me there.  Or, you can look at the most recently posted topics/posts, at the bottom of the home page, and scroll back.  That's just a suggestion for you.  I really liked your post on the Almonds.  Thanks, and we'll get there...Happy Gardening 2014!!

SEARCH!  Thanks for the reminder of something I should have known. 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on March 16, 2014, 04:40:10 PM
 ;D Your Welcome!  ;)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 20, 2014, 11:32:26 AM
http://www.landwatch.com/   LANDWATCH
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 30, 2014, 09:36:03 AM
2+ acres.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-for-Sale-2-Acres-Acreage-near-Fishing-Boating-Hunting-and-New-York-State-/221438113822?pt=Land&hash=item338ebd781e

Land for Sale 2 Acres - Acreage near Fishing Boating Hunting and New York State 

Great parcel located 2 hours from New York City

Time left: 11d 07h  (Jun 10, 2014 17:00:18 PDT)    US $1,125.00     5 bids
Acreage: 
2.06
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 30, 2014, 12:26:03 PM
Enlightenme, belated acknowledgement to your post back in March.  ???   ;)
Survival Realty seems pretty good.  ;D
Here are two sites I randomly stumbled upon today:

http://www.eaglestar.net/Properties/Prepper_Homes_Properties/index.html

SURVIVALIST / PREPPER HOMES & PROPERTIES AVAILABLE
Off grid homes, secluded, private, remote, improved properties with cabins, homes, land and buildings that may be suitable for those who are actively preparing for emergencies, including possible disruptions in social or political order.
...
Yowbarb Note: This one doesn;t seem to have much besides Florida. Will  take a closer look.
http://www.beamanbuyland.com/  Be A Man Buy Land
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: steedy on May 31, 2014, 05:12:55 PM
Is there any formula to be able to tell how much land you will need?  I have a basic idea of how much I'll need, but I have recently been wondering if what I think would be way too much.  I'm really interested in knowing how many acres of forest do you need to be able to keep a fire going in the winter for one fireplace.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on June 01, 2014, 07:06:11 AM
Is there any formula to be able to tell how much land you will need? ...   I'm really interested in knowing how many acres of forest do you need to be able to keep a fire going in the winter for one fireplace.

Good point.  Google "firewood yield per acre" for a start.
There will be several variables, of course.  For one thing, the colder the climate, the more firewood needed and the less produced per acre.

Examples from http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/general-homesteading-forums/homesteading-questions/251072-cords-firewood-per-acre.html (http://www.homesteadingtoday.com/general-homesteading-forums/homesteading-questions/251072-cords-firewood-per-acre.html):

Location: Morganton, NC
The old rule of thumb is 1 cord per acre with minimal management, ...  on average, a one cord (4'x4'x 8') sustainable yield of firewood can be be ..

Location: Ontario, Canada
The common practice up here is that you need 10 acres of woodlot to provide firewood to heat a reasonably well insulated house through the winter.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: SocratesR on July 09, 2014, 12:54:26 AM
In 2009 i figured i'd try to be prepared for a stone age level event with the end of 2012 in mind. I was in a rush since i did not consider it much time to prepare. With 20-20 hindsight it turned out to be premature but it was a learning experience from which i took much wisdom. Here are a few of the things i learned from that.
I went with a spoiler spouse to the Canary Island of La Gomera. We had rented a house in a valley that consisted of a winding road along a valley hill. It was a semi-arid climate with loads of rain in winter but dry summers. It could get very windy, even the 10 miles inland where i was situated. The hills around the house went up to about 800m; the road and house were at about 200m. At the bottom ran a stream year round.

1: do not trust the opinions of locals; i don't speak Spanish but we met a German couple who spoke some English and i speak some German. They'd lived on the island in the same valley we were for 17 years. So when the German told me that the stream running by our house would dry up in a few months [i.e. during summer], i believed him. However, even though it was a dry summer, the stream never dried up. The trickle of water coming down might not have been much but if i had gone to work to utilize it, it would have been more than enough for the garden below our house.
2: locals don't get around much; i found a friggin' paradise valley next to the one where we had rented the house. [I'd seen it on Google Maps.] The locals i spoke to, some of which had lived there 30 years, had never been over the ridge to visit it. It took me some effort to find an efficient route and then it took me 90 minutes to get there as opposed to the 4 hours it took me the first time.  The valley had a pristine stream running through it, with beautiful pools and oasis type natural enclosures along the stream to shelter from sun and wind. Paradise! I loved being there. But the locals act like it doesn't exist because there's no road running to it.
2b: with the exception of goat herders, locals don't get around much. And even then they often let their herds run wild, counting on them to return to base on their own. After all, that's the basic idea of goats: they go where no man can go and live off the land that's useless for farming, then you milk or slaughter them at your leisure.
3: water is everything! As a city slicker, i was confounded by what i had to do; plant seeds? Dig up the hard earth? Trees or plants? So many questions. I should have realized everything is moot without water. What i should have done was get the water from the stream running along the house to my garden. Hell, the garden even had a ditch running through it. Water could have softened the soil so it would've been easier to dig and it would have prepared the soil for new life. Instead, watering the garden turned out to be a terrible chore. I learned the hard way that there's nothing more tedious than doing the same work over and over again every day, like standing there (like an idiot) watering the garden for 1 or 2 hours a day.
4: the spoiler spouse; you can work your fingers to the bone for years but the spoiler spouse will stab you in the back in the end. You're better off on your own than taking on work that will ultimately lead to nothing. Though my 5 months on the island were very educational, it is frustrating to have nothing to show for all your effort in the end.
4b: bad folk will chase good folk away; it's bad enough that the spoiler spouse goes away in the end, but while she's there she will [all subconsciously of course] attack any good folk you try to bring into the fold. Then in the end you're left with nothing and all alone.
5: other people's animals are a disaster; i built makeshift dams and rerouted water, only to return later to find the dam destroyed. What had happened? The goats that occasionally visited my paradise valley were nubians and quite heavy; the herd of around 20 goats destroyed my work by walking over it and they ate everything i'd planted and nurtured. I hadn't even ever seen a goat there so i thought i was okay! In retrospect, even if that herd only came by once a year, they would destroy everything in minutes. It's not just animals outside, though; it's other people's dogs and roosters that irritated me most. I don't get why anyone would disturb their own peace by having an animal that makes so much noise at night, but apparently almost all of them just don't give a damn if their animals disturb other people every single night either. To me it's just crazy. It's also very common.
6: animals do amazing things: i herded a goat into a corner, i thought, and saw it jump up a 3m steep incline in seconds! I once saw a rabbit on the road that got spooked by my car lights and it shot straight up, jumping at least 2 meters ballistically! I saw goats easily walk along footholds in seconds that took me minutes to traverse. It takes a whole lot to fence animals in or out.
7: there is great peace and beauty out in nature alone, but there is also loneliness; i never feel lonely or bored when i'm at home (even if i'm alone for months). I was surprised to find that i would spend hours just sitting on my butt, not able to get my ass in gear no matter how much work i thought was necessary. I had food, i wasn't tired, but i could just not deal with the utter solitude well. I later found that an MP3 player worked well, but i didn't have a solar panel back then and it ran out after a few hours (so i still had days of quiet to contend with). I did not expect to be struck by such lethargy. It's not the kind of person i am. I'm a glass half full kind of person. Being utterly alone in nature has unique effects and it can take up a lot of hours in the day. Walking is alright but constructive work is another story.
8: Ghosts and spirits; seriously. Literally. I experienced energies and presences out there that would give me awful dreams. Later at the house, a ghost started making digging sounds in the garden at 02:00 every night. It started when someone bought up the ruin next door and started building a house there. [Another lesson! People can come to destroy your peace.] Later i learned to get rid of the ghost and i sent it on it's way. It started with digging sounds every night but then also nightmares started. When i woke up one night with physical pain in my chest after getting attacked in my dream, i decided the ghost had to go and i got rid of it (because i'd learned how but had been hesitant to apply the technique). In my paradise valley i was accosted by unfriendly spirits. Later i learned that spirits can't cross running water and that's why they usually don't bother people in cities. I learned the hard way why cultures all over the world have been obsessed by shamans and witches and other folk who learn how to deal with such things. If i make myself a new location somewhere, i'll arrange streams between which i can sleep at night.
9: I became a lot stronger and lost a lot of weight very quickly; when you have to carry everything you eat on your back, you stick to the essentials. I would eat an apple and nuts in the morning; for lunch crushed oats, flax seed, dried fruit, and coconut oil; in the evening i would have a tin of fish or egg, garlic, mayo, onion, and beets or carrot. I found that i needed something around 4 [16:00]; now i would bring along goji berries and hemp seeds, as well. I was often hungry but not starving. When one loses the option of food as comfort food (since then you'd quickly be out of food), you're left with loneliness. My diet got me very strong and a lot thinner. It served me well and i never heated a thing.
10: climate and daily cycles; even though it could get very hot in summer, i found that i could get a lot of work done in the early hours of the day before it became hot. Even in the worst months i could start at 06:00 and work till 09:00. In my paradise valley i could retreat to groves with trees even during blistering heat. I found that the semi arid climate left me with ample opportunities for success, much more than i had previously thought possible.
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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: RON on July 10, 2014, 07:15:50 AM
HELLO TO ALL;    (BOY AM I GLAD I SPELL CHECKED THIS MY SALUTATION WAS "HELL TO ALL" MY KEYS STICK ALONG WITH BRAIN)
I am new here so pardon my ignorance.  I have only been searching for years now to obtain a comprehensive truth of what is to take place astronomically.  I have lost 20 lbs. with Agata, Italian for worry and concern.

CAN ANY ONE ADVISE HOW I CAN EMAIL MARSHALL MASTERS?
I DID A WIKIPIEDIA ON HIM AND THE NAY SAYERS HAVE TOTALLY DEBUNKED HIM.  VERY SAD AS HE IS ONE OF THE FEW OR PERHAPS THE ONLY ONE FOR ME TO EXPLAIN THE TRUTH IN SUCH A COMPREHENSIVE MANNER.

QUESTION AT HAND:  I LIVE IN SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY INLAND BY 50 MILES; HOWEVER, THE DELAWARE BAY IS 10 MILES AWAY AND TWO OTHER LARGE RIVERS CLOSE BY.  NEEDLESS TO SAY IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING I MUST BE 100 - 150 MILES INLAND.  THE EASTERN PART OF THE UNITED STATES IS RIDDLED WITH NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS WHICH IS A CONCERN.  I WAS SERIOUSLY LOOKING AT THE APPALACHIAN / BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAIN RANGE BUT THE NUC'S SCARE ME.  SO WITH THAT SAID:

A)  GIVEN THE ABOVE WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO RELOCATE IN THE USA AWAY FROM NUCLEAR, VOLCANIC ACTIVITY, AND EARTH QUAKE DOOM?

     1)  IS THERE A PLACE CLOSER TO MY HOME IN SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY AS THE APPALACHIAN MOUNTAINS CONTINUE N/E THROUGH PENNSYLVANIA UP TO MANE I BELIEVE?

     2)  JOEL SKOUSEN'S BOOK "STRATEGIC RELOCATION 3RD EDITION" AS SEEN ON ALEX JONES'S INFO WARS YOU TUBES, STATES THE CUMBERLAND PLATEAU IS A GOOD LOCATION, BUT IT APPEARED TO BE SAFE FROM OTHERS; I.E. OUT OF HARMS WAY MOUNTAINS AND SUCH.  TENN. HAS NUCLEAR FACILITIES AS DOES GA., N.C., S.C. VA., AND MANY MORE.

     3)  WHAT SAY YOU ABOUT KENTUCKY AND WEST VIRGINIA?  OR THE WILDERNESS OF WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA?

B)  TYPE OF DWELLINGS THAT WILL WITHSTAND METEOR SHOWERS OF CONSEQUENCE? 

     1)  I PURCHASED A FIFTH WHEEL 41 FT. SELF CONTAINED WITH METAL/ ALUMINUM SIDING UNKNOWINGLY BUT VERY THANKFUL NOW THAT IT COULD PERHAPS ACT AS A FARIDAY CAGE.  PATTI BRASSARD SAID BURY A CAMPER 3 FT. BELOW THE SURFACE FOR RADIATION PURPOSES BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO SURVIVE HEAVY METEOR ACTIVITY.

    1)  CEMENT DWELLING ARE TALKED ABOUT AND I SPOKE TO A RETIRED ARMY VET WHO PURCHASED A LARGE QUANCET METAL BUILDING FOR HIS 40 FT. MOTOR HOME.

C)  COMMUNITIES WHO LIVE OFF GRID IN SURVIVALIST MODE?  I FOUND A FEW ON IN S.C. NEAR ASCHVILLE BUT NUCLEAR IS NEAR.

IN JUNE OF 2013 I ROAD CROSS COUNTRY ON MY MOTORCYCLE CAMPING ALONG THE WAY I 40 TO ARIZONA HOPING THAT THE SHOW LOW AZ, WHITE MOUNTAINS MAY BE A POSSIBILITY.  IT SEEMS TOO REMOTE FROM ONE TOWN TO ANOTHER??

I APOLOGIZE FOR ALL THIS, BUT JUDGING FROM ALL THE CHATTER HERE, I AM BEHIND IN A TIME LINE TO PREPARE.
I AM A SINGLE MAN AND I AM QUITE CAPABLE AND IN GOOD HEALTH AT 69 AS OF 6/17.  I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FARMING, CANNING, NOR ELECTRICAL, BUT I AM GOOD WITH MY HANDS:)

SEE YOU ON THE BACK SIDE BUT HOPEFULLY HEAR FROM SOMEONE SOONER:)

RON
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 10, 2014, 08:34:07 AM
Hi Ron, Welcome to PX Town Hall.

Here is one topic about locations and shelters:

    Planet X Town Hall »
    Barb Townsend (Yowbarb) »
    Survival Shelter and Location Ideas (Members Only) »
    Favorable Locations

 http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=1415.0 (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=1415.0)



Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: steedy on July 10, 2014, 06:52:41 PM
Hey Ron, personally my vote goes for WV.  But if you had to choose elsewhere, KY or TN would be good bets too.  They are basically like WV, but stay away from the cities.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 10, 2014, 08:11:09 PM
Hi Ron and Steedy:

Consider also climate after the pole shift, as well as safety before and after.

See http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=5142.msg72584#msg72584 (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=5142.msg72584#msg72584)

and see attached map of latitudes in the western hemisphere after the pole shift.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: SocratesR on July 10, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Consider the past; unless you're a creationist who believes mankind has no genetic link to the past and just popped into existence a few thousand years ago [sic], there was a previous global 'civilization' that was wiped out [the one that put pyramids and other massive constructs all over the world, about 3300 of them in all]. So what location will allow you to survive mankind being thrown back into the stone age... again? That is the question, not "Can i find a place near me?"

The previous global destruction left the Americas void of human life. That should tell you something. The largest and most geologically stable/safe continent, by all accounts, is Africa [also Indonesia and Papua]. This is where mankind picked up the pieces 12,000 years ago. [See my post Atlas mountains Morocco (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=37.msg81273#msg81273).]
So, the U.S.A.? Tomatoes tomatoes, potatoes potatoes... Sure, that's easy. Judging by history, though, any place in the Americas is suicidal.

IMHO
 
[I do not judge you or reject you for seeking a solution that's easy and close to home. However, i feel that you are better served by my honest opinion in life-or-death matters, than that you would be served by information that sounds comforting but is essentially wrong and would lead to failure. Namaste.]
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 10, 2014, 10:26:08 PM
Hey Ron, personally my vote goes for WV.  But if you had to choose elsewhere, KY or TN would be good bets too.  They are basically like WV, but stay away from the cities.

Also stay away from The New Madrid Seismic Zone... Now, I'm thinkin' the zone extends out farther than what is shown on the map...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 10, 2014, 10:30:43 PM
Consider the past; unless you're a creationist who believes mankind has no genetic link to the past and just popped into existence a few thousand years ago [sic], there was a previous global 'civilization' that was wiped out [the one that put pyramids and other massive constructs all over the world, about 3300 of them in all]. So what location will allow you to survive mankind being thrown back into the stone age... again? That is the question, not "Can i find a place near me?"

The previous global destruction left the Americas void of human life. That should tell you something. The largest and most geologically stable/safe continent, by all accounts, is Africa [also Indonesia and Papua]. This is where mankind picked up the pieces 12,000 years ago. [See my post Atlas mountains Morocco (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=37.msg81273#msg81273).]
So, the U.S.A.? Tomatoes tomatoes, potatoes potatoes... Sure, that's easy. Judging by history, though, any place in the Americas is suicidal.

IMHO
 
[I do not judge you or reject you for seeking a solution that's easy and close to home. However, i feel that you are better served by my honest opinion in life-or-death matters, than that you would be served by information that sounds comforting but is essentially wrong and would lead to failure. Namaste.]

SocratesR - to each his own opinion. The Native Americans have passed their stories of the Great Flood down for centuries upon centuries.. For that reason alone, it doesn't really make sense to me to think all life was wiped out here. On the other hand - that whole area of southeast Asia-  WILL be toast, that is my opinion. In all honesty, I feel you know more about survival in Africa particularly Morocco, than I do. Now that makes sense to me, tell us more about that area? 
All The Best,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 10, 2014, 10:45:46 PM
Hi Ron and Steedy:

Consider also climate after the pole shift, as well as safety before and after.

See http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=5142.msg72584#msg72584 (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=5142.msg72584#msg72584)

and see attached map of latitudes in the western hemisphere after the pole shift.

Jim, Sir - the map in your post didn't open up, so I did a screen capture of it...

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: SocratesR on July 10, 2014, 11:27:56 PM
serious about relocation (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=1102.msg81357#msg81357)
It's all about data, geology, history, etc. What are old mountains, which are geologically new? People get lost in numbers. If something hasn't been around for at least a few million years, it is not time tested. Same goes for mankind itself! In particular it goes for the so-called scientific consensus and opinions and assumptions concerning history. Again, one must always focus on data. The data is impartial and objective. What people do with data, from pseudo science to religion, that's another matter entirely.

There are mountain ranges that are ancient and subject to very little volcanic and tectonic activity. Then there are those that should be considered unstable. Mind you, a volcano that erupted 10,000 years ago is NOT extinct and therefore not safe; again, it's about numbers.

However, Africa would probably be more of an issue for folks due to politics and feasibility. This is why i focus on low profile tactics. In both the present and in potential cataclysmic futures it serves to not let others know your location and capabilities. So this has a lot to do with your own conditioning and knowledge, your own assumptions.
As usual, to most people the facts are more about who interprets them than about reality. But only the reality of what's to happen matters in the end.

As far as Indonesia is concerned, human remains there go back 100,000 years, farther back than anywhere else on the planet. Though there's a lot of volcanic activity, one must also consider that it's location close to the equator offers a lot of rain and sun. Also, the thousands upon thousands of islands offer places to live that give survivors access to sea food, perhaps your best source of food after everything on land has been washed away.
Papua in particular; Australian Aboriginal culture goes back 40,000 years. No other culture can boast a history that comes close to this. It's likely they survived on Papua and headed down to Australia on boats or a land bridge. I personally think that Papua is the safest place on Earth. Unfortunately it's also very far away and extremely expensive to get there.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 11, 2014, 08:29:21 AM
Quote
As far as Indonesia is concerned,

From http://www.zetatalk.com/menusafe.htm (http://www.zetatalk.com/menusafe.htm) :
"within two years after the Pole Shift, the sea level worldwide will rise approximately 675 feet due to the crustal shift friction heating the deep oceans. The impact of these rising seas is depicted in the map below."

(http://www.zetatalk.com/menusafe.gif)

Not every island will be submerged or otherwise swept clean of humans, and so there will be a few survivors.  These will then spread out to occupy all of the surviving islands, and so thousands of years later, it will appear that human occupation has been continuous there for millions of years.  Well, technically that will be true, but it will also be true that great catastrophes struck at least once.

Australia is an ancient continent, geologically stable so far, but the Zetas claim that the whole western two-thirds will be submerged as the india-Australia tectonic plate tilts.  (Unless that plate cracks west of Indonesia, which has shown signs of happening.)  Tilting of the Sunda tectonic plate, which is east of Indonesia, has already happened to a significant degree.

From http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx182.htm (http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx182.htm) :
[start copy]
Indonesia fares poorly during the coming pole shift, but most of the residents will already be dealing with disasters by the time the shift arrives. As low-lying land, in the main, the steadily softening polar ice will create inundation that the country is poorly prepared to deal with. Now and then a hurricane ravages a coastline and dumps rain inland; now and then a volcano goes into an active burping stage; but overall, most of Indonesia during these times - functions. With low-lying land consistently flooded throughout Indonesia, there will be an impact on the industries in the country, and migrations of displaced citizens to the cities remaining above water. Indonesia is run by the wealthy elite, who rape the poor and the land without government oversight. With industries shut down, the wealthy will attempt to escape to Australia or any other country that will have them. They will be running from what they will view to be a sinking ship, leaving the poor behind them with scarcely a backward glance. The government will become even less responsive to the poor, who will be allowed to crowd into the cities but be kept in camps where disease will run rampant and starvation be the norm.

Increasing activity in the many volcanoes that dot the region will only increase these migrations to the death camps. Thus, by the time the shift hits, most citizens of Indonesia will already be in a desperate life-and-death struggle. Those living on high ground away from volcanoes will be washed over by the large floodtides that will move from the Pacific to the Indian Ocean, and back again, during the shortening of the Pacific and subducting of the Indio-Australian plate under the Himalayas. Survival will occur for a small percentage, but only because the islands are many and cover a vast area. Survival will be by accident, in these cases, not by design.
[end copy]
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: steedy on July 11, 2014, 12:37:59 PM
Jim, I'm not worried about a pole shift at all.  My opinion is if there really will be a SHTF event, it will be more along the lines of an economic collapse (global, not local).  That, and another world war event. 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 11, 2014, 12:51:41 PM
In 2009 i figured i'd try to be prepared for a stone age level event with the end of 2012 in mind. I was in a rush since i did not consider it much time to prepare. With 20-20 hindsight it turned out to be premature but it was a learning experience from which i took much wisdom. Here are a few of the things i learned from that.
I went with a spoiler spouse to the Canary Island of La Gomera. We had rented a house in a valley that consisted of a winding road along a valley hill. It was a semi-arid climate with loads of rain in winter but dry summers. It could get very windy, even the 10 miles inland where i was situated. The hills around the house went up to about 800m; the road and house were at about 200m. At the bottom ran a stream year round.

1: do not trust the opinions of locals; i don't speak Spanish but we met a German couple who spoke some English and i speak some German. They'd lived on the island in the same valley we were for 17 years. So when the German told me that the stream running by our house would dry up in a few months [i.e. during summer], i believed him. However, even though it was a dry summer, the stream never dried up. The trickle of water coming down might not have been much but if i had gone to work to utilize it, it would have been more than enough for the garden below our house.
2: locals don't get around much; i found a friggin' paradise valley next to the one where we had rented the house. [I'd seen it on Google Maps.] The locals i spoke to, some of which had lived there 30 years, had never been over the ridge to visit it. It took me some effort to find an efficient route and then it took me 90 minutes to get there as opposed to the 4 hours it took me the first time.  The valley had a pristine stream running through it, with beautiful pools and oasis type natural enclosures along the stream to shelter from sun and wind. Paradise! I loved being there. But the locals act like it doesn't exist because there's no road running to it.
2b: with the exception of goat herders, locals don't get around much. And even then they often let their herds run wild, counting on them to return to base on their own. After all, that's the basic idea of goats: they go where no man can go and live off the land that's useless for farming, then you milk or slaughter them at your leisure.
3: water is everything! As a city slicker, i was confounded by what i had to do; plant seeds? Dig up the hard earth? Trees or plants? So many questions. I should have realized everything is moot without water. What i should have done was get the water from the stream running along the house to my garden. Hell, the garden even had a ditch running through it. Water could have softened the soil so it would've been easier to dig and it would have prepared the soil for new life. Instead, watering the garden turned out to be a terrible chore. I learned the hard way that there's nothing more tedious than doing the same work over and over again every day, like standing there (like an idiot) watering the garden for 1 or 2 hours a day.
4: the spoiler spouse; you can work your fingers to the bone for years but the spoiler spouse will stab you in the back in the end. You're better off on your own than taking on work that will ultimately lead to nothing. Though my 5 months on the island were very educational, it is frustrating to have nothing to show for all your effort in the end.
4b: bad folk will chase good folk away; it's bad enough that the spoiler spouse goes away in the end, but while she's there she will [all subconsciously of course] attack any good folk you try to bring into the fold. Then in the end you're left with nothing and all alone.
5: other people's animals are a disaster; i built makeshift dams and rerouted water, only to return later to find the dam destroyed. What had happened? The goats that occasionally visited my paradise valley were nubians and quite heavy; the herd of around 20 goats destroyed my work by walking over it and they ate everything i'd planted and nurtured. I hadn't even ever seen a goat there so i thought i was okay! In retrospect, even if that herd only came by once a year, they would destroy everything in minutes. It's not just animals outside, though; it's other people's dogs and roosters that irritated me most. I don't get why anyone would disturb their own peace by having an animal that makes so much noise at night, but apparently almost all of them just don't give a damn if their animals disturb other people every single night either. To me it's just crazy. It's also very common.
6: animals do amazing things: i herded a goat into a corner, i thought, and saw it jump up a 3m steep incline in seconds! I once saw a rabbit on the road that got spooked by my car lights and it shot straight up, jumping at least 2 meters ballistically! I saw goats easily walk along footholds in seconds that took me minutes to traverse. It takes a whole lot to fence animals in or out.
7: there is great peace and beauty out in nature alone, but there is also loneliness; i never feel lonely or bored when i'm at home (even if i'm alone for months). I was surprised to find that i would spend hours just sitting on my butt, not able to get my ass in gear no matter how much work i thought was necessary. I had food, i wasn't tired, but i could just not deal with the utter solitude well. I later found that an MP3 player worked well, but i didn't have a solar panel back then and it ran out after a few hours (so i still had days of quiet to contend with). I did not expect to be struck by such lethargy. It's not the kind of person i am. I'm a glass half full kind of person. Being utterly alone in nature has unique effects and it can take up a lot of hours in the day. Walking is alright but constructive work is another story.
8: Ghosts and spirits; seriously. Literally. I experienced energies and presences out there that would give me awful dreams. Later at the house, a ghost started making digging sounds in the garden at 02:00 every night. It started when someone bought up the ruin next door and started building a house there. [Another lesson! People can come to destroy your peace.] Later i learned to get rid of the ghost and i sent it on it's way. It started with digging sounds every night but then also nightmares started. When i woke up one night with physical pain in my chest after getting attacked in my dream, i decided the ghost had to go and i got rid of it (because i'd learned how but had been hesitant to apply the technique). In my paradise valley i was accosted by unfriendly spirits. Later i learned that spirits can't cross running water and that's why they usually don't bother people in cities. I learned the hard way why cultures all over the world have been obsessed by shamans and witches and other folk who learn how to deal with such things. If i make myself a new location somewhere, i'll arrange streams between which i can sleep at night.
9: I became a lot stronger and lost a lot of weight very quickly; when you have to carry everything you eat on your back, you stick to the essentials. I would eat an apple and nuts in the morning; for lunch crushed oats, flax seed, dried fruit, and coconut oil; in the evening i would have a tin of fish or egg, garlic, mayo, onion, and beets or carrot. I found that i needed something around 4 [16:00]; now i would bring along goji berries and hemp seeds, as well. I was often hungry but not starving. When one loses the option of food as comfort food (since then you'd quickly be out of food), you're left with loneliness. My diet got me very strong and a lot thinner. It served me well and i never heated a thing.
10: climate and daily cycles; even though it could get very hot in summer, i found that i could get a lot of work done in the early hours of the day before it became hot. Even in the worst months i could start at 06:00 and work till 09:00. In my paradise valley i could retreat to groves with trees even during blistering heat. I found that the semi arid climate left me with ample opportunities for success, much more than i had previously thought possible.
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SocratesR - I'm only just now reading this post of yours. Wow - interesting stuff. Real.
Some of these things are "real to me," having experienced them. Some of these experiences and solutions are definitely new to me.
Something real to me - the wide ranging and unexpected spiritual experiences which can occur out in nature, in places (you would think are peaceful.) I know from experience -not always! There can be spirits there who consider them selves guardians of the area or less evolved -some are just plain ornery, mischievous or evil and need to be gotton rid of. I have eliminated a few spirits from my area, in the past. Other spirits just needed someone to hear their story then  they gently went away, after being informed  the date and that they didn't need to be stuck there any longer - but I feel the kind of spirits you encountered are very old, malevolent beings.
Am appreciate these posts and your sharing your experiences.
I really like that solution-suggestions of putting streams on all sides of a living space. Had never thought of it or heard of that. Going to apply it as knowledge -I feel it is true.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 17, 2014, 04:09:54 PM
This is a really disheartening document all about where the shale deposits are for more fracking, etc.  Notes from an EXXON MOBILE Meeting in 2011.
I happened to randomly find this. I was trying to zero in on a possible survival area... Turns out it is full of shale and I think production going on...in fact pretty sure.

Map - Lower 48 Shale Plays

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Shale_gas_plays,_May_2011.pdf
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 17, 2014, 04:15:09 PM
Was reading an article about how the MARCELLUS shale fields will affect New York water, etc.

http://shalestuff.com/education/environment/water-contamination-shale-gas-drilling
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: steedy on July 18, 2014, 06:42:25 AM
I knew this fracking crap was going on in my area.  What I've been wondering about is if you get a property with mineral rights, could companies drill sideways (for instance) to get the stuff they want out of your land without you knowing about it?
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 18, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
I knew this fracking crap was going on in my area.  What I've been wondering about is if you get a property with mineral rights, could companies drill sideways (for instance) to get the stuff they want out of your land without you knowing about it?

steedy - that's a good question...
I find this whole thing disheartening...repeating myself. I just told my son on the phone this afternoon he was interested in a possible survival location - I told him I'm not an expert but read my recent email with images...looks like they are going to town and messing up everything like they did in Texas...
He got sort of upset but I said let's stay analytical. Better to know than not know...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on July 18, 2014, 07:15:13 PM
I knew this fracking crap was going on in my area.  What I've been wondering about is if you get a property with mineral rights, could companies drill sideways (for instance) to get the stuff they want out of your land without you knowing about it?
I cannot say for certain about sideways drilling or angular drilling, but with unethical corporados--ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.  In my area there has been and still is lead mining, in which lead is the primary ore mined, but other minerals come along for the ride,  a few of the thinking ones around here have pondered the same question you have.

We must all have ceaseless awareness.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on July 18, 2014, 07:16:37 PM
This is a really disheartening document all about where the shale deposits are for more fracking, etc.  Notes from an EXXON MOBILE Meeting in 2011.
I happened to randomly find this. I was trying to zero in on a possible survival area... Turns out it is full of shale and I think production going on...in fact pretty sure.

Map - Lower 48 Shale Plays

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:United_States_Shale_gas_plays,_May_2011.pdf
Thanks for posting this, Barb, as I have been looking for this type of info. for quite some time.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: steedy on July 19, 2014, 05:58:39 AM
I knew this fracking crap was going on in my area.  What I've been wondering about is if you get a property with mineral rights, could companies drill sideways (for instance) to get the stuff they want out of your land without you knowing about it?
I cannot say for certain about sideways drilling or angular drilling, but with unethical corporados--ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.  In my area there has been and still is lead mining, in which lead is the primary ore mined, but other minerals come along for the ride,  a few of the thinking ones around here have pondered the same question you have.

We must all have ceaseless awareness.

I believe you are right--anything IS possible with these companies.  They are motivated by profit, not by concern for the environment, not by concern that you want your property (its soil and water) to be free from the left over chemicals their mining does.  These people are rich and want to get richer without concern for any long term effects.  That's what bothers me so much.  Despite evidence showing their methods are leaking chemicals into the water and soil, which livestock are using, meaning eventually it'll be in us, they still drill baby drill.  They think short term, not long term.  I'm thinking long term, like who will I leave my place to after I'm dead?  Who will take care of it the way I want it to be?  In 100 years, will it be a haven for people to learn "old fashioned" ways of doing things, or will it be a strip mall?
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 25, 2015, 10:46:54 PM
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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 29, 2015, 01:05:58 AM
http://www.survivalrealty.com/

http://offgridsurvival.com/ultimatebugoutpropertysurvivalretreat/

http://www.landforsalebyzip.com/?landing=land-for-sale-by-owner&ppc=msn

http://www.landandfarm.com/

http://offgridsurvival.com/buyingruralland/    http://offgridsurvival.com/
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 05, 2016, 09:54:04 AM
Yowbarb Note: RE "Cheapest Places to Buy Land in Every State" from MSN Money.

I just now saw this article. Haven't checked out each location mentioned. Since this is about price not necessarily survival location value, each situation needs to be evaluated by the buyer. Next post here will list out the 48 locations, but it's all in the article.
Link below:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/cheapest-places-to-buy-land-in-every-state/ar-BBnxHW2?ocid=spartanntp#page=1

With home prices reaching record highs, many people believe the real estate market is at its peak. According to the Fiscal Times, it’s a seller’s market and most buyers want turnkey properties with homes already built. Despite this trend, for the adventurous few looking to buy land and build their dream homes or country ranch residences, affordable options still exist.

Buying undeveloped land comes with many advantages. Empty land usually does not cost as much as an improved lot. Additionally, it provides maximum creative flexibility — stay within your jurisdiction’s zoning codes, and you can build whatever you want. Perhaps most importantly, though, is the fact that vacant lots can often be better long-term investments.

Note: Nebraska and Vermont were not included in this list due to insufficient data.

The experts at FindTheHome used county public records to look at the sales of vacant lots since the beginning of 2014. Using this data, they averaged the lot size, sale price, and price per square foot of every vacant lot transaction in each county and found the counties with the cheapest land in each state.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on January 05, 2016, 03:48:43 PM
Yowbarb Note: RE "Cheapest Places to Buy Land in Every State" from MSN Money.

I just now saw this article. Haven't checked out each location mentioned. Since this is about price not necessarily survival location value, each situation needs to be evaluated by the buyer. Next post here will list out the 48 locations, but it's all in the article.
Link below:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/cheapest-places-to-buy-land-in-every-state/ar-BBnxHW2?ocid=spartanntp#page=1

With home prices reaching record highs, many people believe the real estate market is at its peak. According to the Fiscal Times, it’s a seller’s market and most buyers want turnkey properties with homes already built. Despite this trend, for the adventurous few looking to buy land and build their dream homes or country ranch residences, affordable options still exist.

Buying undeveloped land comes with many advantages. Empty land usually does not cost as much as an improved lot. Additionally, it provides maximum creative flexibility — stay within your jurisdiction’s zoning codes, and you can build whatever you want. Perhaps most importantly, though, is the fact that vacant lots can often be better long-term investments.

Note: Nebraska and Vermont were not included in this list due to insufficient data.

The experts at FindTheHome used county public records to look at the sales of vacant lots since the beginning of 2014. Using this data, they averaged the lot size, sale price, and price per square foot of every vacant lot transaction in each county and found the counties with the cheapest land in each state.
Many people will be looking forward to your posting the 48 locations.  The "vacant lots" terminology evokes the feeling of a vacant city lot, but maybe it includes both city and rural.    In many of the more undeveloped areas in the U.S., far from large cities, there are "lots" that range from an acre or so, to upwards of a thousand  acres or more.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on January 11, 2016, 07:27:47 AM
Drat.  Tried to find the post from Steedy about the new property and I must be looking right at it and not seeing it.  So will post this relevant item here:

In the May/June 2014 Countryside, Vol. 98, Number 3, page 32 article, titled When In Rome, writer Ben Hoffman tells how the locals in a given area have reasons for doing things the way they do, and how it might be a good idea to consult them, as they know the terrain, weather patterns, climate, geology and geography of the area in which they live.

Anyway, this all ties in with Steedy and the newly acquired property.  In addition, I recall a specific anecdote in one of Scott and Helen Nearing's books, in which they ignored what all the locals told them, when they, new to the area, decided to build a little bridge or something similar across a driveway culvert, or similar situation.  ( I can see it in my mind.)  Anyway, the locals, upon seeing their beginning work, told them, that it will never work, as it will flood out completely in the next big rains.  But the Nearings, thinking their project looked so promising, continued on, and when finished, looked great and worked perfectly. 

That is, until the first big rains came along and completely washed out their new crossing.

Still, good luck, Steedy.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on January 13, 2016, 02:55:41 PM
ilinda, I found steedy's post:

Topic: Post here information on obtaining and storing water for future survival
Reply #17 on: January 08, 2016, 10:47:32 AM »

Link:  http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=4995.msg87474#msg87474
Thanks, Barb.  It's been posted in the appropriate place and now done is done.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 16, 2016, 01:28:51 AM
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Land-/15841/i.html?_pgn=3&_skc=100&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Land-/15841/i.html?_pgn=3&_skc=100&rt=nc
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on January 16, 2016, 06:10:35 AM
There are still some really good deals to be found here in PA.  This listing is just an example of a rural area in Dauphin County (same county as the state capital, Harrisburg, in Central PA).  Only 2 1/2 acres, but has a 2 BR farmhouse in livable condition for less than $50,000.

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/251-South-Crossroad-Lykens-Pennsylvania-17048/2718304

Over 5 acres with stream and 4 BR farmhouse, reasonable, asking $170,000

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/329-Kocker-Lane-Elizabethville-Pennsylvania-17023/2554060

And some other general PA listings, some very reasonable.

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/?gclid=CL7fg8S_rsoCFU6QHwodYGwMmA
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 16, 2016, 09:56:22 AM
There are still some really good deals to be found here in PA.  This listing is just an example of a rural area in Dauphin County (same county as the state capital, Harrisburg, in Central PA).  Only 2 1/2 acres, but has a 2 BR farmhouse in livable condition for less than $50,000.

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/251-South-Crossroad-Lykens-Pennsylvania-17048/2718304

Over 5 acres with stream and 4 BR farmhouse, reasonable, asking $170,000

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/329-Kocker-Lane-Elizabethville-Pennsylvania-17023/2554060

And some other general PA listings, some very reasonable.

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/?gclid=CL7fg8S_rsoCFU6QHwodYGwMmA

Wow, Enlightenme I just saw your post. Thank you!
PA would be my #1 choice if I can avoid the fracking areas. As long as it has elevation and provided we can get that far north...
Also: Thank you for this link I had not seen this site before!
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 16, 2016, 03:04:18 PM
Yowbarb Note: Sad fact of life. I open up one of the ads, first one. Land in Beech Creek, PA and wonder why the trees all look dead. Doesn't mean they are, just look that way. No way for me to guess the extent of any possible damage. So then I entered into google search: Fracking Beech Creek, PA and here is what came up. 6 wells, 10 violations. That doesn't necessarily mean that tract is unusable. It does mean, look out.
Fracking has wrecked many a good plot of land probably. I wish I actually knew more!! Anyway, the last link below lists the Municipalities with shale wells. Posting this in Fracking topic as well. Oh baaad pun. PLS Note: orange dots= Violations reported
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http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/Sugar-Camp-Road-Beech-Creek-Pennsylvania-16841/2929500

http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/drilling/municipalities/beech-creek-township-municipality/

http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/drilling/municipalities/ Pennsylvania Municipalities With Active Wells 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 16, 2016, 03:06:22 PM
PS Again, Enlightenme, thanks for the link of PA land!

Enlightenme's link:
http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/Sugar-Camp-Road-Beech-Creek-Pennsylvania-16841/2929500 

I am looking at it.
One main area I am interested in does not have fracking wells too terribly close... :)
I hope it stays that way.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: enlightenme on January 16, 2016, 06:14:45 PM
PS Again, Enlightenme, thanks for the link of PA land!

Enlightenme's link:
http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/Sugar-Camp-Road-Beech-Creek-Pennsylvania-16841/2929500 

I am looking at it.
One main area I am interested in does not have fracking wells too terribly close... :)
I hope it stays that way.

Barb..Hmm, that wasn't one of the links I posted (I don't think so anyway), and be careful with a lot of those areas, they are private developments with yearly dues, home association rules and regs, etc.  I think if you look more so in the Dauphin County and surrounding areas in central PA, you won't find much fracking.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 17, 2016, 02:10:57 PM
PS Again, Enlightenme, thanks for the link of PA land!

Enlightenme's link:
http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/Sugar-Camp-Road-Beech-Creek-Pennsylvania-16841/2929500 

I am looking at it.
One main area I am interested in does not have fracking wells too terribly close... :)
I hope it stays that way.

Barb..Hmm, that wasn't one of the links I posted (I don't think so anyway), and be careful with a lot of those areas, they are private developments with yearly dues, home association rules and regs, etc.  I think if you look more so in the Dauphin County and surrounding areas in central PA, you won't find much fracking.

Oh! Enlightenme, that was just a link within the site you posted...
I plugged in Centre county and a page of links popped up; it is part of that site. No complaints here. :) I very much appreciate that site you posted.
What you posted links back to this: [ lands of Pennsylvania.com http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/ ]
Thanks for the tip on Dauphin county...looking in Centre county to the east of fracking but will definitely look at Dauphin too. :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 17, 2016, 02:12:25 PM
PS The area I was considering has fracking to the west of it, not too close. (IMHO not too close.)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 17, 2016, 02:34:32 PM
Again, it was Member rodfergie who posted this site, years ago.
[ http://fasrp.sc.egov.usda.gov/fasrp/mainAction.do  ]

Image from page taken today.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 17, 2016, 03:25:17 PM
There are still some really good deals to be found here in PA.  This listing is just an example of a rural area in Dauphin County (same county as the state capital, Harrisburg, in Central PA).  Only 2 1/2 acres, but has a 2 BR farmhouse in livable condition for less than $50,000.

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/251-South-Crossroad-Lykens-Pennsylvania-17048/2718304

Over 5 acres with stream and 4 BR farmhouse, reasonable, asking $170,000

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/property/329-Kocker-Lane-Elizabethville-Pennsylvania-17023/2554060

And some other general PA listings, some very reasonable.

http://www.landsofpennsylvania.com/?gclid=CL7fg8S_rsoCFU6QHwodYGwMmA
Enlightenme, again, thangx for the PA land link! :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 22, 2016, 01:25:36 PM
Yowbarb Note: Again, rodfergie posted this site, years ago. There seem to be some good deals.
The site may not be so well set up or maintained - I mean when you search a certain area something else pops up but it seems worthwhile. I plan to check it often. Images below are from right now.
PLS Note on bottom of the page are more live links, resources you can check out in finding land...
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[ http://fasrp.sc.egov.usda.gov/fasrp/mainAction.do  ]
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 24, 2016, 11:53:24 PM
Yowbarb Note: I just happened to see this site. Not plugging any particular site. This looks interesting. Didn't say inexpensive. Interesting.
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http://www.strategicrelocation.com/
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 22, 2016, 09:05:48 PM
Just some ideas...

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Cumberland-Gap_TN/type-land

http://www.landwatch.com/Tennessee_land_for_sale/Cumberland_Gap
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on February 23, 2016, 03:49:28 PM
http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/premier/sales14/index.php?a=5&b=295
Probably the main thing to look for initially is how close to fracking any of these OK acreages are, as, IIRC, OK is the fracking capitol of the world, or at least the U.S.A.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on February 24, 2016, 05:38:05 PM
Quote
Hanna, OKLA, near the land tracts, is 91 miles to the west of the Sequoyah National Wildlife Refuge.

Tornadoes and earthquakes aplenty in Oklahoma.
 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 24, 2016, 09:28:40 PM
Quote
Hanna, OKLA, near the land tracts, is 91 miles to the west of the Sequoyah National Wildlife Refuge.

Tornadoes and earthquakes aplenty in Oklahoma.

Yes, that is true.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2016, 01:26:31 AM
Just another place to look...

https://www.landhub.com/?gclid=CMS86ri028sCFRFZhgodGRcGeQ   Land Hub
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: redhairedgirl on April 04, 2016, 01:42:03 AM
I don't know if this will help anyone, but I have found what I believe to be a good spot in Northern New Mexico. The area is a very small Hispanic village high in the mountains north of Santa Fe. There is one road in and the same road out. the village is all farming community, with flat land for the area, surrounded completely by National Forest Land. The village is about 800 people, UNINCORPORATED!!! , meaning you can do just about anything within reason on your property. There is a small creek that runs along the base of the village, which abuts natural hills. The land is fertile, the people simple and friendly. There is one small church, no grocery store, a school, library and clinic.

This area is also isolated from the mainstream, if you will. Santa Fe is about an hour away - the town of Espanola is closer, but still quite a distance. We are truly in a small farming village on top of a mountain surrounded by the Carson National Forest. The water is clean, the air pure and the people are good.

How does this sound to our community here and do you think I'm missing something important?
Thanks to all for help - My husband and I are actively looking to find our "place", get settled and start farming, working in the community and work towards the new future.

Redhairedgirl
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Jimfarmer on April 04, 2016, 02:06:13 AM
Quote
but I have found what I believe to be a good spot in Northern New Mexico.

Sounds good.
Check the weather - average monthly temperatures, rainfall, and snowfall.
What is the elevation a.s.l.?

Check current drought map.
Wildfire history?
Check seismicity (should be low there)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: redhairedgirl on April 04, 2016, 06:39:27 PM
thanks Jimfarmer:
Your comments are encouraging. I'll do some research in the areas you suggested.
Hope I can help you sometime soon.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 04, 2016, 09:55:14 PM
thanks Jimfarmer:
Your comments are encouraging. I'll do some research in the areas you suggested.
Hope I can help you sometime soon.

Yes that is a very good point  how about wildfires...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2016, 01:25:49 AM
http://www.billyland.com/Land-for-Sale/Auctions
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2016, 04:32:09 AM
Fracking statewide ban in North Carolina, as of the date of this map, 2014.

http://www.bourbonbraintrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/fracking-map.png

I don't see karst in NC on the map I usually check:

http://water.usgs.gov/ogw/karst/kig2002/jbe_map_files/fig1.gif

I am drawn to the western part of NC, near TN border, not far from the Great Smoky Mountain Park...
Pretty extreme and impassable in the winter months. A person would have to be well stocked and prepared and sheltered. I wonder how much some undeveloped land would be up in that area...
Wouldn't want to be in the valley areas between big rivers...would need some elevation...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on April 05, 2016, 05:25:34 PM
I don't know if this will help anyone, but I have found what I believe to be a good spot in Northern New Mexico. The area is a very small Hispanic village high in the mountains north of Santa Fe. There is one road in and the same road out. the village is all farming community, with flat land for the area, surrounded completely by National Forest Land. The village is about 800 people, UNINCORPORATED!!! , meaning you can do just about anything within reason on your property. There is a small creek that runs along the base of the village, which abuts natural hills. The land is fertile, the people simple and friendly. There is one small church, no grocery store, a school, library and clinic.

This area is also isolated from the mainstream, if you will. Santa Fe is about an hour away - the town of Espanola is closer, but still quite a distance. We are truly in a small farming village on top of a mountain surrounded by the Carson National Forest. The water is clean, the air pure and the people are good.

How does this sound to our community here and do you think I'm missing something important?
Thanks to all for help - My husband and I are actively looking to find our "place", get settled and start farming, working in the community and work towards the new future.

Redhairedgirl
It does sound almost too good to be true.  But still it sounds so good, it might be worth visiting and seeing if "something is for rent" during which time you can assess how you guys fit in.  It sounds GREAT!

Also, check USGS maps for whatever mining is currently being done.  Check state natural resource department maps for information on underlying aquifer, and water quality.  Might have to check a different state department for water quality/water testing.  And most importantly, ask the locals about how their water seems to them, i.e., has it remained in good condition for since they can remember?

If mining was done in the past, but not now, at least any heavy metals might be "settled" a bit and not being blown around or emitted.  If mining was done, it won't hurt to find out where the "tailings dams" are, as these are dammed up slurries of all the mine wastes that are too toxic and/or too slushy, etc., to be legally released into the waters of the state, so they are sort of in a "holding", i.e., the tailings pond behind the dam.  Would not be wise to live downstream from one of these dams.  There are quite a few in our area of MO Ozarks, and at one town hall meeting I attended a representative of our state regulatory agency told everyone that if that dam ruptures, then the town of Park Hills, MO will be completely inundated within two (2) minutes.  Not any time for a warning.

Good luck!  And keep us posted.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 26, 2017, 11:22:27 AM
Yowbarb Note: I cannot vouch for this site. Looks sorta good to me.
Note: Some dirt cheap land will soon have a fracking site right next to it - so do your research.
Cheap land ads. I have posted items from this site previously:
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http://www.cheaplandinamerica.com/

http://cheaplandinamerica.com/index.php

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/20150120/map-fracking-boom-state-state

Map: The Fracking Boom, State by State  updated April, 2016
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 11, 2017, 09:18:57 PM
Not sure they have any straight land on there now...worth a look-see.

https://www.trulia.com/for_sale/

Cumberland Gap and Viewable map area Lot/Lands For Sale 


Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 24, 2017, 12:52:39 AM
http://www.landwatch.com/New_York_land_for_sale/Cragsmoor
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 24, 2017, 02:53:47 PM
http://www.landwatch.com/New_York_land_for_sale/Cragsmoor
I've read that property taxes in New York are exhorbitant, even on undeveloped land.  I clicked on "more" to see what other info. there is, but taxes were not listed.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 24, 2017, 03:01:10 PM
This came in the mail a couple of days ago, and the two properties are in my county:

Reynolds County, MO, 160 acres, 2300 sq.ft. home w/4 bedrooms, 1.5 baths, 4 ponds, 21 X 30 metal barns for hay or equipment storage.  Pasture is fenced, 2 large food plots, 7 miles north of Ellington, 7 miles south of Centerville.  1 hr 45 min south of St. Louis.  $380,000.

Reynolds County, MO, 20.2 acres, 2 wells, electricity on both sides of Highway J.  Brushy Creek running through the property.  Great homesites, 5 minutes from Oates, 20 miles east of Ironton and Arcadia.%54,800. 

Both are on this brochure from WHITETAILPROPERTIES.COM, and their phone # is 618-581-6265.

BTW:  I have no financial interest in these, nor do I know who owns them, nor do I know anything about whitetailproperties.com, but am just passing them on, as yowbarb has shown how easy it is to do.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2017, 01:20:33 PM
http://www.landwatch.com/New_York_land_for_sale/Cragsmoor
I've read that property taxes in New York are exhorbitant, even on undeveloped land.  I clicked on "more" to see what other info. there is, but taxes were not listed.

ilinda - thanks for that info.
some of the Land Watch ads list the taxes... will have to take a look.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2017, 01:25:34 PM
http://www.landwatch.com/New_York_land_for_sale/Cragsmoor
I've read that property taxes in New York are exhorbitant, even on undeveloped land.  I clicked on "more" to see what other info. there is, but taxes were not listed.

ilinda - thanks for that info. That's something to consider...some of the Land Watch ads list the taxes...
I am thinking of going farther north and my son is interested in NY land...Always looking for sites with a little elevation to them also.
Those MO ads - prices look good... MO much more affordable than NY, a beautiful place...as long as not in a flood plain or too close to big rivers...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 25, 2017, 05:46:47 PM
And, didn't we read that fracking is banned in New York now?
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 25, 2017, 05:48:10 PM
http://www.landwatch.com/New_York_land_for_sale/Cragsmoor
I've read that property taxes in New York are exhorbitant, even on undeveloped land.  I clicked on "more" to see what other info. there is, but taxes were not listed.

ilinda - thanks for that info. That's something to consider...some of the Land Watch ads list the taxes...
I am thinking of going farther north and my son is interested in NY land...Always looking for sites with a little elevation to them also.
Those MO ads - prices look good... MO much more affordable than NY, a beautiful place...as long as not in a flood plain or too close to big rivers...
If you or anyone has any interest in anything near me, I can easily find out the elevation, as we have many USFS maps showing elevations, for many areas in MO.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2017, 05:54:01 PM
http://www.landwatch.com/New_York_land_for_sale/Cragsmoor
I've read that property taxes in New York are exhorbitant, even on undeveloped land.  I clicked on "more" to see what other info. there is, but taxes were not listed.

ilinda - thanks for that info. That's something to consider...some of the Land Watch ads list the taxes...
I am thinking of going farther north and my son is interested in NY land...Always looking for sites with a little elevation to them also.
Those MO ads - prices look good... MO much more affordable than NY, a beautiful place...as long as not in a flood plain or too close to big rivers...
If you or anyone has any interest in anything near me, I can easily find out the elevation, as we have many USFS maps showing elevations, for many areas in MO.
ilinda, that would be great!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2017, 06:08:12 PM
Yowbarb Note: If land could be obtained in the Boston Mountain area it might be OK. Northern Arkansas and eastern Oklahoma. This is sedimentary, so truth be told, not sure if stable enough. Could be. Note these areas are black (above water) in Tom Lupshu's map. I am not sure how valuable the map is, it is part of my frame of reference when I look at possible survival locations.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Mountains

The Boston Mountains 

General description
The Boston Mountains form the southwestern part of the Ozark plateau where they are the highest, most rugged, and least denuded portion of the Ozarks, owing to their young age relative to the other sections.[citation needed] Summits can reach elevations of just over 2,560 feet (780 m) with valleys 500 feet (150 m) to 1,550 feet (470 m) deep. Turner Ward Knob (TWK) is the highest named peak. Located in western Newton County, Arkansas, its elevation is 2,463 feet (751 m). Nearby, five unnamed peaks have elevations at or slightly above 2,560 feet (780 m). Two of these highest peaks are located 2.2 miles (3.5 km) west of Turner Ward Knob, one being the location of the Buffalo Lookout fire tower at 2,561 feet (781 m).[2] The other three highest peaks are located 4–5 miles (6.4–8.0 km) south/southwest of Turner Ward Knob along Arkansas Highway 16.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2017, 06:27:07 PM
For an example, 5 acres in the Boston Mountains - $42,500

http://www.landwatch.com/Arkansas_land_for_sale/Mountainburg 

MOUNTAINBURG, CRAWFORD COUNTY, ARKANSAS LAND FOR SALE:  1 - 15 of 23 listings
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
And, didn't we read that fracking is banned in New York now?

I looked at maps again recently and last night... Yes many areas of NY, fracking is banned...other areas the people are struggling to keep the moratoriums in place, or fracking is going on.
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http://earthjustice.org/features/new-york-and-fracking

MAP:  https://www.fractracker.org/map/us/new-york/moratoria/
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2017, 06:57:13 PM
Yowbarb Note, RE My Reply #220 on: Today at 06:27:07 PM about acreage in Crawford County (Boston Mountains, I do not see a fracking well listed on there. Yet.) There are wells in counties surrounding that county.  >:(
 
http://lingo.cast.uark.edu/lingopublic/about/index.htm
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 28, 2017, 11:21:16 PM
http://geology.com/county-map/new-york-county-map.gif

(http://geology.com/county-map/new-york-county-map.gif)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 30, 2017, 10:31:14 PM
North Carolina land. Here I thought NC had managed to ban all fracking. It could still happen. 

http://rafiusa.org/issues/landowner-rights-and-fracking/fracking-map-in-nc/

In 2014, [Republican] North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory signed a law lifting the state’s ban on fracking and making it legal for the Mining and Energy Commission to issue fracking permits as early as spring 2015.

In March 2015, the MEC began accepting permit requests for drilling. However, the commission was halted only months later by a federal judge who issued a new moratorium on fracking over a challenge to the constitutionality of the appointments to the MEC.

Some North Carolinians worry that the current regulations are too weak to protect their groundwater, which half of the state population drinks, and deprive local governments of control.

DID YOU KNOW?
Fracking remains on hold in North Carolina due to the success of a local lawsuit that argued the creation of the MEC violated separation of powers.

The North Carolina General Assembly created the commission in 2012, and most of its members came from that same assembly. A judge issued a stay, prohibiting the commission from accepting or processing permit applications for drilling units.

This creates a de facto moratorium on fracking in North Carolina until a ruling on a related case from the state’s Supreme Court.

Last Updated: September 29, 2015
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http://earthjustice.org/features/north-carolina-and-fracking

The map [below] shows the potential affected areas and include Sanford, Lee, and Chatham counties in North Carolina.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 30, 2017, 10:35:48 PM
Yowbarb Note: The previous Governor of NC, a Republican tried to bring fracking into North Carolina. Although there is now a
Democratic Governor and the moratorium is holding, that could all be reversed with a Supreme court Decision.

http://earthjustice.org/features/north-carolina-and-fracking

THE FRACKED FACT QUIZ

Local governments in North Carolina can ban fracking within their communities.

Answer: FALSE

Local governments in North Carolina are prohibited from banning fracking in their communities by state law. It is also illegal to reveal the chemicals used in fracking by oil and gas companies.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 30, 2017, 11:24:34 PM
Yowbarb Note: North Carolina Counties Map, and a few land ads from Land Watch.

To my knowledge, no fracking up in the far NW corner of the state, which is mostly mountains.
For starters, the counties up in that NW portion: ASHE, ALLEGHENY, WATAUGA, WILKES, AVERY, and CALDWELL.

The fracking map (of potential fracking areas) shows there could be fracking in some counties...
The closest counties which could end up with fracking are Stokes and Yadkin to the east.
There is still a moratorium on fracking.
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This first ad might work for a group... not so much when it is divided up.
I do not know if there are restrictions on what you could build. It would take more homework. Contact #s and more images, see at link below.
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http://www.landwatch.com/North_Carolina_land_for_sale/Ashe_County  ASHE, WILKES Counties   Cable, DSL, Telephone

96.69 Acres   Glendale Springs, Ashe County, North Carolina
$191,000 This beautiful and secluded tract is located about a mile from Blue Ridge Parkway on Old Highway 16 and offers nice trails, plenty of road frontage, up to 2,800′ elevations!

Looking for a large and unspoiled property in the North Carolina Mountains? How about one on the Blue Ridge, about a mile off the Parkway? Then look no further! This parcel is one of the nice, undisturbed tracts remaining in Wilkes County. It offers spectacular views, elevations over 2,800’, and several ridges with many homesite possibilities!

This heavily wooded property features a long ridgetop, springs, streams, trails and a number of hollows. It’s just the right place for a weekend retreat or family compound. Where else could you find such variety, seclusion and privacy?
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on March 31, 2017, 04:51:59 PM
North Carolina land. Here I thought NC had managed to ban all fracking. It could still happen. 

http://rafiusa.org/issues/landowner-rights-and-fracking/fracking-map-in-nc/

In 2014, [Republican] North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory signed a law lifting the state’s ban on fracking and making it legal for the Mining and Energy Commission to issue fracking permits as early as spring 2015.

In March 2015, the MEC began accepting permit requests for drilling. However, the commission was halted only months later by a federal judge who issued a new moratorium on fracking over a challenge to the constitutionality of the appointments to the MEC.

Some North Carolinians worry that the current regulations are too weak to protect their groundwater, which half of the state population drinks, and deprive local governments of control.

DID YOU KNOW?
Fracking remains on hold in North Carolina due to the success of a local lawsuit that argued the creation of the MEC violated separation of powers.

The North Carolina General Assembly created the commission in 2012, and most of its members came from that same assembly. A judge issued a stay, prohibiting the commission from accepting or processing permit applications for drilling units.

This creates a de facto moratorium on fracking in North Carolina until a ruling on a related case from the state’s Supreme Court.

Last Updated: September 29, 2015
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http://earthjustice.org/features/north-carolina-and-fracking

The map [below] shows the potential affected areas and include Sanford, Lee, and Chatham counties in North Carolina.
We have new neighbors from NC, only here a couple of years while building house, clearing acreage, etc., and one of the fasciinating things they said is how they got their water.  It was runoff from the mountain, and those that live on/in the mountains do the same.  You have a sort of "box" in the stream, and as the water flows down, it fills the box, and you can pipe it to your needed location, so presumably you tap the stream a bit higher than your desired location, thus using gravity flow.  They said it worked mostly ok, except for an occasional non-complier type person who would run his gray water into the stream!  Yikes!

You wouldn't want to be downstream from that household.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 31, 2017, 10:59:09 PM
OMG why would anyone run their gray water into the stream...
Well, that is interesting info about the NC water source.
i suppose they filter it, put something in it...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 07, 2017, 11:08:14 PM
http://www.landwatch.com/White-County-Georgia-Land-for-sale/pid/289225911

Cleveland, White County, Georgia Land For Sale - 10 Acres

Price:$99,995
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on April 08, 2017, 05:09:38 PM
OMG why would anyone run their gray water into the stream...
Well, that is interesting info about the NC water source.
i suppose they filter it, put something in it...
Yes, our new neighbors said people have some sort of filter and it keeps enough stuff out that people use the water for about everything, IIRC, even drinking.  I'll verify that asap.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 09, 2017, 12:35:31 AM
OMG why would anyone run their gray water into the stream...
Well, that is interesting info about the NC water source.
i suppose they filter it, put something in it...
Yes, our new neighbors said people have some sort of filter and it keeps enough stuff out that people use the water for about everything, IIRC, even drinking.  I'll verify that asap.

Yes that would be good.
I wonder if even after the filtration some of them use water purification tablets?
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 18, 2017, 04:36:13 PM
Yowbarb's Notes:
This Whitetail Properties land is in central north Tennessee - in Putnam County. Hopefully far enough away from the New Madrid center. (See notes farther down.)
According to the karst US map, not a karst area, will take more research for anyone interested in purchasing the property. By the look of the photo the parcel is about 200 feet or more up on a bluff above the river.  It is $332,000 - if you divide that up among 100 adults to jointly own, family and other survival group members that is only about $3320 apiece, for the land. If you have 88 acres, assuming much of it is buildable and 100 adults and their kids, assuming there could be about three central shelter on the same shared lot, storages etc. animal survival places there would be land available to graze animals and grow some food.
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ACREAGE 88.3      PRICE $332,000
STATE Tennessee   COUNTY Putnam

https://www.whitetailproperties.com/hunting-land/tennessee/putnam/overlooking-center-hill-lake-north-central-tennessee-cookeville-baxter#tab.top

Very private tract at the end of a dead-end road
Approximately 24 acres of pasture to run livestock or food plot for deer
Ample deer and turkeys in the area
Multiple springs and small waterfalls
Marketable timber
Near the famous Cookeville Boat Dock with a floating restaurant
Views of Center Hill Lake which offers great fishing and recreation
Utilities at the road
Convenient to Cookeville and Baxter
Approximately 1.5 hours to Nashville and Knoxville
Medlin Road
Baxter, Tennessee 38544
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Barb's Notes, continued: The very central north of TN doesn't show many quakes, per this map...

ALSO Per this site, Putnam County has low earthquake risk: http://www.homefacts.com/earthquakes/Tennessee/Putnam-County.html
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(http://www.memphis.edu/ceri/images/station_map2_450px.jpg)
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Earthquake Information for Putnam County, Tennessee:

Putnam County, TN has a very low earthquake risk, with a total of 0 earthquakes since 1931. The USGS database shows that there is a 0.50% chance of a major earthquake within 50km of Putnam County, TN within the next 50 years. [interactive chart on that page]
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 18, 2017, 04:50:29 PM
Lots of ticks in TN. I would get a lot of healthy opossums and turn them loose on the land..
They do consume thousands of ticks.

http://www.snopes.com/opossums-kill-ticks-inhibit-the-spread-of-lyme-disease/ 

What is true: Some data indicate opossums eat thousands of deer ticks per season, reducing the number that can go on to spread Lyme Disease to humans.
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http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/10-things-you-didnt-know-about-opossums

Natural immunity. Opossums are mostly immune to rabies, and in fact, they are eight times less likely to carry rabies compared to wild dogs.Since their diet allows them to indulge on snails, slugs and beetles, they are a welcome addition to the garden.

Opossums also keep rats and cockroaches at bay by competing with them for food. In fact,
it’s common for opossums to kill cockroaches and rats if they find them in their territory.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 18, 2017, 11:24:46 PM
Yowbarb Note: Not sure how useful this site is. As with all land purchases, check out any restrictions. Some land has stipulations no camping etc. which is not very helpful if you will be building on it and want to stay there for survival reasons. "Basically no full time camping, no mobiles. Cabins and stick and modular homes are permitted" This was posted in the ad, 15 Acres Tennessee Seven Lake Area
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BillyLand  http://www.billyland.com/    auctions bid or buy

This list shows only land with Monthly Payments
less than $200 per Month.

http://www.billyland.com/Cheap-Monthly-Payments
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 19, 2017, 01:33:58 AM
Ad for land near Gainesboro, TN.
$55,000   23.80 acres    :o
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https://www.survivalrealty.com/  Survival retreats and real estate agents worldwide.

23.8 Acres of Pure Seclusion – Prepper Dream!
 
$55,000   23.80 acres
Great 23.0 acres of wooded secluded acreage for only $55,000.00. This fabulous homestead land has it all, views, rock seasonal waterfalls. This is a very unique quiet property, plenty of space for your dream on or off grid home. There is also no zoning. If you enjoy rural, living, and solitude this may be the perfect place to call home. Great for hunting as well. No homeowners association, and private roads.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on April 23, 2017, 03:34:35 PM
There was an ad in ACRES U.S.A.  under "Help Wanted".
It reads:
"ENERGETIC ORGANIC FARMING experienced couple WANTED TO RUN 30 ACRE FARM IN SE PA.  House, barn, farm equipment available for your use. Email lynnhitschler@me.com."  There was a phone number, but since the person placing the ad assumed it would only be seen by those reading ACRES, U.S.A., I did not include it here.  It sounds very interesting for someone with organic farming experience who also wants to relocate.

And BTW, I know nothing of the owner, or anyone or anything else about the ad or the property, as I know only what I read in the ad, and have no financial incentive in posting this. 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on May 09, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
Here is another piece of interesting-sounding property, in which I have no financial interest, know nothing about it, except what I read in the classified ad in the Salem News Extra (the free portion of the Salem News), dated April 11, 2017.

"NEW PRICE ON 82 ACRES w/1/2 MILE FRONTAGE ON THE BARNEY CREEK  NATIONAL FOREST ON 3 sides, 20 acres in luscious pasture, rest wooded.  3 BR, 1 BA home, DW, ponds & spring.  $199,500.  MSL #16039394SN

Note:  I think the house is probably a fixer-upper, but cannot verify.  Still, the creek frontage, plus spring is a real plus.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 13, 2017, 01:06:07 AM
Here is another piece of interesting-sounding property, in which I have no financial interest, know nothing about it, except what I read in the classified ad in the Salem News Extra (the free portion of the Salem News), dated April 11, 2017.

"NEW PRICE ON 82 ACRES w/1/2 MILE FRONTAGE ON THE BARNEY CREEK  NATIONAL FOREST ON 3 sides, 20 acres in luscious pasture, rest wooded.  3 BR, 1 BA home, DW, ponds & spring.  $199,500.  MSL #16039394SN

Note:  I think the house is probably a fixer-upper, but cannot verify.  Still, the creek frontage, plus spring is a real plus.

ilinda I was thinking it might be Salem, NH but it is Salem, Missouri. :)
I found the ad... Lovely. It does seem like a real deal.
A person would have to make sure their building sites were set up above potential flood areas. The little house is up a little bit higher....

http://www.salem-mo-real-estate.com/search/Recreational-Property/Missouri/Dent/82-ACRES-w-ONE-HALF-MILE-FRONTAGE-ON-BARNEY-CREEK-/921945

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 13, 2017, 01:12:46 AM
I sort of love Missouri although never been there.
My grandmother's people were from there.
Grandma Vina Viola Smith and her sister Grace were born in Missouri.
Vina married Solon Townsend, my grandfather...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Socrates on May 14, 2017, 12:30:51 PM
Buying land with no money (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXCFoxRLCA)
How to claim free land (in the U.S.A.) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hK04LgK3Hw)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on May 14, 2017, 05:41:09 PM
Here is another piece of interesting-sounding property, in which I have no financial interest, know nothing about it, except what I read in the classified ad in the Salem News Extra (the free portion of the Salem News), dated April 11, 2017.

"NEW PRICE ON 82 ACRES w/1/2 MILE FRONTAGE ON THE BARNEY CREEK  NATIONAL FOREST ON 3 sides, 20 acres in luscious pasture, rest wooded.  3 BR, 1 BA home, DW, ponds & spring.  $199,500.  MSL #16039394SN

Note:  I think the house is probably a fixer-upper, but cannot verify.  Still, the creek frontage, plus spring is a real plus.

ilinda I was thinking it might be Salem, NH but it is Salem, Missouri. :)
I found the ad... Lovely. It does seem like a real deal.
A person would have to make sure their building sites were set up above potential flood areas. The little house is up a little bit higher....

http://www.salem-mo-real-estate.com/search/Recreational-Property/Missouri/Dent/82-ACRES-w-ONE-HALF-MILE-FRONTAGE-ON-BARNEY-CREEK-/921945
I just looked on Wikipedia and noticed Salem is around 1184' in elevation.  We do know of something called the "Salem Plateau" which encompasses the area of Salem and surrounding area, and is a rather safe-seeming area, due to its elevation, re flooding.  There seems to be less variation in elevation in/on the Salem Plateau than there is here in the "foothills of the Saint Francois Mountains".
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 20, 2017, 09:55:26 PM
Here is another piece of interesting-sounding property, in which I have no financial interest, know nothing about it, except what I read in the classified ad in the Salem News Extra (the free portion of the Salem News), dated April 11, 2017.

"NEW PRICE ON 82 ACRES w/1/2 MILE FRONTAGE ON THE BARNEY CREEK  NATIONAL FOREST ON 3 sides, 20 acres in luscious pasture, rest wooded.  3 BR, 1 BA home, DW, ponds & spring.  $199,500.  MSL #16039394SN

Note:  I think the house is probably a fixer-upper, but cannot verify.  Still, the creek frontage, plus spring is a real plus.

ilinda I was thinking it might be Salem, NH but it is Salem, Missouri. :)
I found the ad... Lovely. It does seem like a real deal.
A person would have to make sure their building sites were set up above potential flood areas. The little house is up a little bit higher....

http://www.salem-mo-real-estate.com/search/Recreational-Property/Missouri/Dent/82-ACRES-w-ONE-HALF-MILE-FRONTAGE-ON-BARNEY-CREEK-/921945
I just looked on Wikipedia and noticed Salem is around 1184' in elevation.  We do know of something called the "Salem Plateau" which encompasses the area of Salem and surrounding area, and is a rather safe-seeming area, due to its elevation, re flooding.  There seems to be less variation in elevation in/on the Salem Plateau than there is here in the "foothills of the Saint Francois Mountains".

ilinda, thanks for posting this info! 
I have wondered about higher elevations, plateaus in Missouri.
It surely sounds like it a good location.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 20, 2017, 10:17:25 PM
Yowbarb Note: An ad from Land and Farm. Walton, NY, Elevation 1,207 ft (368 m)
This little home and acreage is about 3 hours NW of NYC. Just found out a couple of massive floods in recent history, 1996 and 2006... Walton is on the Delaware River, so this may not work, but worth a look, may be higher elevation - and nearly 48 acres!
...
http://www.landandfarm.com/property/Farmhouse_Walton_NY-3320883/?utm_source=landandfarm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=021917newslettergen

Farmhouse - Walton, NY
1340 Marvin Hollow Road ,  Walton ,  NY  |  Delaware County, NY
$124,900  47.9 acres  3 Bedrooms  1 Bathroom
 Save
Listing Status:   Active
Listing Type:   Sale
Property Type(s):   
Residential Land
Irrigated:   No
Residence:   Yes
Property ID:   3320883
Property Website
Hunters Alert! If you're the rugged Individualist' type who knows that in order to bag the big one, you have to be willing to go where they can be found. Right? If you're the type who wants to hunt from the back porch stop reading now. However, if your preference is for a challenging hunting experience then maybe this is the place to make your own? These 50 surveyed - doe permit eligible - acres, are comprised of a variety of trees, ground cover and terrain. There's a year round brook and assuming you know what you're looking for, ample signs of white tail deer, small game and yes black bear! There's a nice 3 bedroom house (nothing extravagant by any means) but in pretty good shape due to many recent renovations and upgrades. There's an old workshop and a refurbished barn that makes for an excellent, secure storage space for ATV's and other equipment as well as a place to be out of the weather when it comes time to dress' the fruits of your labor. Very well priced at $124,900.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 31, 2017, 01:42:06 PM
Yowbarb Note -
Here's an ad...  $149,900 in the Cumberland Gap...hopefully a fairly good survival area...
...
Cumberland Gap, Claiborne County, Tennessee Land For Sale - 6.7 Acres

http://www.landwatch.com/Claiborne-County-Tennessee-Land-for-sale/pid/3897199

You will not believe the gorgeous mountain views that you will enjoy on top of the world from this land. This property includes two tracts totaling over 10 acres. Tract 053 021.01 totals 4 acres of land. Tract two 053.021.03 totals 6.7 acres of land. Improvements include a 34x34 barn, paved drive, sheds/garages and a 2 bedroom 1 bath, nice single wide that would be perfect to live in while you build your dream home. Call to schedule your viewing of this rare piece of property only a few miles from Harrogate.    Price:$149,900   MLS or other ID:979458
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 31, 2017, 01:51:23 PM
Yowbarb Note: This image and additional notes are from the previous post, ad.
I haven't checked it out real close. Any TN land purchased in the hopes of a survival location first needs to be aways from the New Madrid Seismic Zone... Will post more on it later. This property is about 7 miles from the New Madrid...I think it might be safe enough...whoever buys this will have to put some thought into it...
...
http://www.landwatch.com/Claiborne-County-Tennessee-Land-for-sale/pid/3897199

Cumberland Gap, Claiborne County, Tennessee Land For Sale - 6.7 Acres

"Tennessee offers a variety of wildlife, lakes, rivers, waterfalls, natural wonders, mountains and gardens - made perfect for outdoor adventures. At the Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area in North Central Tennessee, explore the Grand Corridor, Neddle's Eye, Lover's Leap on Lookout Mountain, and panoramic views that allow you to see seven states. Cycling enthusiasts will love the Parkway, one of America's premier cycling roads that runs southeast from Nashville. At Ruby Falls in Chattanooga, find a 145 foot underground waterfall on Lookout Mountain. Nearby, the Ocoee River offers a wild ride for rafters and kayakers, and is popular for catching largemouth bass, yellow perch, catfish, and brown and rainbow trout. Find endless ridges of forest in Great Smoky Mountains National Park, where hikers can find over 800 miles of maintained trails to explore the great diversity of plant and animal life in these ancient mountains. The Cherokee National Forest is found in the heart of the Southern Appalachian mountain range, home to more than 20,000 species of plans and animals, 700 miles of trail and plenty of cold water streams and seven whitewater rivers. In Sweetwater, visit the mysterious Lost Sea, a Registered National Landmark and one of America's largest underground lakes. The lake is part of the extensive and historic cave system called Craighead Caverns. Tennessee is a hidden gem for golfers, with fairways like the five 18-hold golf courses, The Bear Trace, designed by Jack Nicklaus."
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 31, 2017, 02:32:15 PM
Here is another LandWatch ad. Kentucky land, seems a good deal.
50 acres, $99,950. Described as a hunting retreat. Not sure if any zoning problems
re moving a group of people on the land to live... Probably not, but I have no idea.
Contact info is on this page, see link:
...
Property type: Land            Parcel Size: 50.07 Acres
Price: $99,950       MLS or other ID: 1470665

http://www.landwatch.com/Hart-County-Kentucky-Land-for-sale/pid/25056554

50.07 Acre property with a 12x20 cabin that sleeps 6. Property features 8x8 storage shed, water well and a pond. This hunting retreat has approximately 5 cleared acres with trails running throughout. Deer and turkey are abundant.

some details:
PROPERTY FEATURES
Activities          Camping Family Hiking Hunting ORV/ATV
Water:              Well
Services (Utilities): [probably none]
Views               Trees
Terrain              Terrain:Rolling
Property
City:                 Bonnieville
Road           
Frontage:         County Road
Surface:           Blacktop/Asphalt
Trees:               Heavy
Agent/Broker Information
Website URL:    Click here  http://mophartrealty.com/Listings-Details.asp?t=Land&LID=680
Property Information
Sale Type:          Fixed Price
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 31, 2017, 10:28:24 PM
Yowbarb Note - Previous post, Bonnieville is only about 650 feet in elevation.
The property in this ad is higher:  The town of  Harrogate is at 1,325 ft
The nearby property for sale has some hilltops on which to build.
...
http://www.landwatch.com/Claiborne-County-Tennessee-Land-for-sale/pid/28356162

Cumberland Gap, Claiborne County, Tennessee Land For Sale - 13.5 Acres

Property type: Land   Parcel Size:13.5 Acres   Price:$69,500   MLS or other ID:391724

"A piece of the Tennessee mountains is now available in the Cumberland Gap area. 13.5(+/-) acres of mountainous land with a beautiful year-round creek, Keg Creek, flowing constantly over small water falls. From every area of this property the creek can be heard. At the very top you could achieve panoramic views of the beautiful country side. There is a single wide mobile home on the property that no value has been given, however it maybe can be restored and made habitable. Two other shed like buildings are also on the property. The best part is the wondering trails, some of which are for off-road vehicles, while others are used by wildlife in the area. While this may be a nice retreat from the busy world we live in it is close to conveniences. Lincoln Memorial University is in nearby Harrogate along with moderate amenities. From there just to the north is Middleborough, KY that is less than 30 minutes away with most of today's modern conveniences for shopping and restaurants. This property is worth seeing. Four-wheeled vehicles with the capability of off road driving will make the driveway climb okay. Otherwise, park at the bottom and enjoy a little hike."
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 31, 2017, 11:28:27 PM
This dome home + 7 and a half acres is about a mile south of Nashville.
...
https://naturalspacesdomes.com/domes_for_sale.htm#Tennessee 

Style Contemporary Stories 2.00 Year Built 2004 / Existing
Acres 7.750      Total Rooms 0 Completion
Size 7+ ACRES     Lot Slope      Assoc Fee $0 /mo
Constr Stone / Wood Floors Finished Wood Basement Full / Combination
Driveway Gravel Waterfront / Garage 3 / Attached
Community Amenities
Remarks: CHECK OUT THIS PRICE CUT! BRING OFFERS !ONE OF A KIND! CUSTOM BUILT DOME HOME. 2283 SQ. FT. NOT COUNTED IN BASEMENT.. HUGE ROOMS, TON'S OF WINDOWS. SOARING CEILINGS. BASEMENT ALMOST FINISHED, HAS ROOMS, LIGHTS. NEEDS DRY WALL;FLOORING.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 31, 2017, 11:33:05 PM
Rock Solid Domes
Nathaniel Hatcher
140 Rains Avenue, Nashville, TN 37203-5316
615/242-5235
HatcherN@bellsouth.net
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on June 02, 2017, 08:17:17 PM
Buying land with no money (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snXCFoxRLCA)
How to claim free land (in the U.S.A.) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hK04LgK3Hw)

Oh! Socrates, just now saw your post!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 13, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
Just saw this ad. Seems worth a look-see. Auction is the 16th. I think the minimum price is $49,000.
...

http://www.landwatch.com/default.aspx?ct=D&pid=25029685 

Asheville, Buncombe County, North Carolina Land For Sale - 11 Acres

'UNRESTRICTED ASHEVILLE NC LARGE ACREAGE ESTATE SALE
This is the best deal in the Asheville area over the past 20 years. 11 ACRES OVER $49,900. Totally unrestricted. Completely secluded. Minutes to Black Mtn and Downtown Asheville. Be the first to book your preview showing. Call Today! 1-888-270-4695. Don’t miss a chance to own this Mountain paradise for $.35 cents on today’s market dollar."
Property type: Land
Parcel Size:11 Acres
Price:
Auction Date:9/16/2017MLS or other ID:DR1
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 13, 2017, 12:00:54 PM
Yowbarb Note: This LandWatch ad says only $$82,000
...
http://www.landwatch.com/default.aspx?ct=D&pid=25072098

North Carolina Land For Sale - 41 Acres

Property type: Land   Parcel Size: 41 Acres   Price:$82,000   MLS or other ID:HS2

41 Acres, ONLY $82,000. Liquidation is taking place Saturday July 29th. If you want a secluded Mt. Paradise, this is it! Look no further! This property is perfect for a home, camping, hunting, RV's, ATV's, etc. For someone who wants to be left alone but also wants to be close to shopping and everyday needs, come get it! Be the first to book your preview showing, 1-888-270-4695.  Agent:Ben Beshears


Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on July 13, 2017, 04:28:45 PM
Keep your eyes peeled, perhaps for individual classified ads, and here's why:
A piece of property near us, in same zipcode, perhaps 5 miles away as the crow flies, recently sold for $80,000.  It consists of 220 acres!  We could not believe it.  That is a price of decades ago, and we guessed that the owner was unaware of prevailing prices.  We never saw a realtor's ad, nor did we see a realtor's sign, or any sign.  Just all of a sudden there was a lot of bulldozing done (clearing too many trees IMHO) and talk of a new owner.  We figure there was a tiny classified ad that someone answered, and then bought it.  Lucky people.

We have noticed for years that the property appeared abandoned, or at least not lived in.  I am planning to take a pic just to show the beauty of it, and it also has river frontage as far as we can tell, as the low-lying area borders on the Middle Fork of the Black River.  The little house that sat vacant for years, decades actually, has now been emptied out and may just be someone's house, or temporary house.  I feel compelled to take a pic for two reasons:  the beauty of it, and fact that it has been sitting there waiting for the right buyer.  Who knows, maybe the owner died and the children didn't want it.
 Update to follow....
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 14, 2017, 10:06:07 AM
Keep your eyes peeled, perhaps for individual classified ads, and here's why:
A piece of property near us, in same zipcode, perhaps 5 miles away as the crow flies, recently sold for $80,000.  It consists of 220 acres!  We could not believe it.  That is a price of decades ago, and we guessed that the owner was unaware of prevailing prices.  We never saw a realtor's ad, nor did we see a realtor's sign, or any sign.  Just all of a sudden there was a lot of bulldozing done (clearing too many trees IMHO) and talk of a new owner.  We figure there was a tiny classified ad that someone answered, and then bought it.  Lucky people.

We have noticed for years that the property appeared abandoned, or at least not lived in.  I am planning to take a pic just to show the beauty of it, and it also has river frontage as far as we can tell, as the low-lying area borders on the Middle Fork of the Black River.  The little house that sat vacant for years, decades actually, has now been emptied out and may just be someone's house, or temporary house.  I feel compelled to take a pic for two reasons:  the beauty of it, and fact that it has been sitting there waiting for the right buyer.  Who knows, maybe the owner died and the children didn't want it.
 Update to follow....

WOW ilinda, thanks for posting this!!
I hadn't thought of this tip, since I am going to have to get land far away from this area.
Maybe checking classifieds in the areas I feel might be good...
All The Best,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on July 16, 2017, 04:08:19 PM
Finally a couple of pics of the BARGAIN 220 acres for $80,000.  Still, unbelievable.  Anyway, I took these by holding my camera out the window, without looking into the viewfinder and got lucky on two shots by getting a fairly decent pic.  I'm fairly certain they did get river frontage as part of their parcel, as the bottomland where the trees begin is where the river flows, as it curves around the then goes under the road about 0.5 mi. further down the road.  They got a steal.

If you are passing through this area, I can drive you around and show you a number of places where we have seen no activity in years and many are off the beaten track.  Many homesteads in this area have a spring--otherwise they would not have been able to homestead, as electricity came to this are relatively late.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 17, 2017, 09:42:50 PM

Finally a couple of pics of the BARGAIN 220 acres for $80,000.  Still, unbelievable.  Anyway, I took these by holding my camera out the window, without looking into the viewfinder and got lucky on two shots by getting a fairly decent pic.  I'm fairly certain they did get river frontage as part of their parcel, as the bottomland where the trees begin is where the river flows, as it curves around the then goes under the road about 0.5 mi. further down the road.  They got a steal.

If you are passing through this area, I can drive you around and show you a number of places where we have seen no activity in years and many are off the beaten track.  Many homesteads in this area have a spring--otherwise they would not have been able to homestead, as electricity came to this are relatively late.

Wow! beautiful. So, with 220 acres, surely some of them would be hilltops...
(Wouldn't want to build down in the river area.)
sounds so good...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on July 31, 2017, 02:49:20 PM
Another thought about buying rural, apparently abandoned or unused property...

If you find something you really love, and have checked with the Recorder of Deeds to find owner's contact info., you may really luck out if contact with the owner tells you that he has no interest in living there and none in the future, and might even entertain the idea of selling it. 

If this particular property really resonates with you, offer a "land contract" where the owner/seller "holds paper", selling the farm/property to you "on contract" for a specified time, and at a specified rate of interest, specified payment amount, etc.   There is nothing dishonest about this setup, as many people have bought homes and farms in this manner. 

If you are able to buy a really nice property with little or no down payment, consider the future, especially if the owner lives on a coast, or in an area that you feel is totally dangerous.  You may find yourself owning a lovely property, mortgaged to the hilt, but with no mortgage holder to be found after a major Earth-changes event.  Sounds morbid, but it is food for thought.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on July 31, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Another thought about buying rural, apparently abandoned or unused property...

If you find something you really love, and have checked with the Recorder of Deeds to find owner's contact info., you may really luck out if contact with the owner tells you that he has no interest in living there and none in the future, and might even entertain the idea of selling it. 

If this particular property really resonates with you, offer a "land contract" where the owner/seller "holds paper", selling the farm/property to you "on contract" for a specified time, and at a specified rate of interest, specified payment amount, etc.   There is nothing dishonest about this setup, as many people have bought homes and farms in this manner. 

If you are able to buy a really nice property with little or no down payment, consider the future, especially if the owner lives on a coast, or in an area that you feel is totally dangerous.  You may find yourself owning a lovely property, mortgaged to the hilt, but with no mortgage holder to be found after a major Earth-changes event.  Sounds morbid, but it is food for thought.

Thanks for sharing your ideas...
We must be nimble of wit...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on August 26, 2017, 03:17:44 PM
Found this in my folder for PXTH, but can't recall how old it is.  Here it is anyway, as property doesn't always sell fast, so it may still be available.

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/5139167428.html
 *160* Acres Near Crystal Clear Black River Secluded, Hunting, Nice! (Annapolis)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 13, 2017, 07:18:49 AM
Found this in my folder for PXTH, but can't recall how old it is.  Here it is anyway, as property doesn't always sell fast, so it may still be available.

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/reo/5139167428.html
 *160* Acres Near Crystal Clear Black River Secluded, Hunting, Nice! (Annapolis)

Thanks ilinda! :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on October 25, 2017, 05:21:57 PM
Driving home from St. Louis the other day and noticed Washington County State Park, one of the many nice state parks around here, and realized the issue of camping in the parks is food for thought.  Wash. Co. park rents kayaks for the many floaters and has other amenities.

Well, if you suddenly discover you must leave your area quickly and have no destination plan, but it's either leave or die, then how about heading for a state park?  Most of them allow camping, and some even have cabins and lodges.  There may be a time when the park might not be attended, and you would have your choice of campsites.  All of the parks that I know of have at least primitive or not-so-primitive showers, plus potable water, assuming there is electricity for pumping.

And don't forget federal parks and forests.  Some also have camp sites, and cabins.  It may be wise to investigate what is close to you if you think you may need their services some day, and don't forget to check elevation.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on October 26, 2017, 02:00:48 PM
Driving home from St. Louis the other day and noticed Washington County State Park, one of the many nice state parks around here, and realized the issue of camping in the parks is food for thought.  Wash. Co. park rents kayaks for the many floaters and has other amenities.

Well, if you suddenly discover you must leave your area quickly and have no destination plan, but it's either leave or die, then how about heading for a state park?  Most of them allow camping, and some even have cabins and lodges.  There may be a time when the park might not be attended, and you would have your choice of campsites.  All of the parks that I know of have at least primitive or not-so-primitive showers, plus potable water, assuming there is electricity for pumping.

And don't forget federal parks and forests.  Some also have camp sites, and cabins.  It may be wise to investigate what is close to you if you think you may need their services some day, and don't forget to check elevation.

This is a good concept... For sure, campgrounds would be safer than a lot of city areas...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on November 06, 2017, 05:23:13 PM
Saw this ad in our local electric co-op paper:
"Abandoned farm with private lake.  Rolling wooded hills, prairie, scenic views, rural water, power & access to 450-acre private lake.  Was $46,000, now $29,900.
Four Rivers Realty 1-866-407-6653.  www.lakesundown.com

I know nothing about it, but thought I'd pass it on.  Sounds good, but one never knows.  The "farm" might be 2 acres, which would be grossly overpriced if you ask this chick.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 12, 2017, 05:10:30 PM
Saw this ad in our local electric co-op paper:
"Abandoned farm with private lake.  Rolling wooded hills, prairie, scenic views, rural water, power & access to 450-acre private lake.  Was $46,000, now $29,900.
Four Rivers Realty 1-866-407-6653.  www.lakesundown.com

I know nothing about it, but thought I'd pass it on.  Sounds good, but one never knows.  The "farm" might be 2 acres, which would be grossly overpriced if you ask this chick.

It does sound promising...thanks for posting...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 12, 2017, 05:22:28 PM
Note from Yowbarb: eBay seems to be a dud tonight. Something must be wonky with the search function, unless all the land got sold off. Precious little being displayed. Will try that later. Meanwhile: LandWatch
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https://www.landwatch.com/Tennessee_land_for_sale/Cumberland_Gap

CUMBERLAND GAP, CLAIBORNE COUNTY, EASTERN, TENNESSEE LAND FOR SALE:  1 - 15 of 26 listings

A piece of the Tennessee mountains is now available in the Cumberland Gap area. 13.5(+/-) acres of mountainous land with a beautiful year-round creek, Keg Creek, flowing constantly over small water falls. From every area of this property the creek can be heard. At the very top you could achieve panoramic views of the beautiful country side. There is a single wide mobile home on the property that no value has been given, however it maybe can be restored and made habitable. Two other shed like buildings are also on the property. The best part is the wondering trails, some of which are for off-road vehicles, while others are used by wildlife in the area. While this may be a nice retreat from the busy world we live in it is close to conveniences. Lincoln Memorial University is in nearby Harrogate along with moderate amenities. From there just to the north is Middleborough, KY that is less than 30 minutes away with most of today's modern conveniences for shopping and restaurants. This property is worth seeing. Four-wheeled vehicles with the capability of off road driving will make the driveway climb okay. Otherwise, park at the bottom and enjoy a little hike. ...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on November 12, 2017, 05:38:40 PM
There is one about 5 miles from us and has frontage on Brushy Creek, plus two springs, as well as a pond--all of this is written just from memory, as I drove by the handmade sign in the front yard of the farmhouse, and this is the first time in decades there has been a "For Sale" sign on this property.  I do believe it has been in that family for generations.

The property is 143 acres, but does not give a price.  I will stop by there asap and take a pic of the sign which sums up the property.  Apparently no realtor is involved and maybe this will be like that one a few miles in the other direction which was $80,000 for 220 acres.  Sign to follow...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 13, 2017, 11:53:28 AM
There is one about 5 miles from us and has frontage on Brushy Creek, plus two springs, as well as a pond--all of this is written just from memory, as I drove by the handmade sign in the front yard of the farmhouse, and this is the first time in decades there has been a "For Sale" sign on this property.  I do believe it has been in that family for generations.

The property is 143 acres, but does not give a price.  I will stop by there asap and take a pic of the sign which sums up the property.  Apparently no realtor is involved and maybe this will be like that one a few miles in the other direction which was $80,000 for 220 acres.  Sign to follow...

Thank you!
:)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 15, 2017, 06:32:31 AM
https://www.landsofamerica.com/Lawrence-County-OH/all-land/

Blackfork-Firebrick - 45 acres - Lawrence County
Oak Hill , Ohio 45656 - Lawrence County
$64,900 45 Acres
Hunting Land, Recreational Property, Timberland
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on November 15, 2017, 06:33:09 AM
As always, check to make sure no fracking wells nearby...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on December 17, 2017, 12:32:31 AM
I just spent a few hours checking out land ads near Athens, OH, a really nice area...I noticed land cheap...
Turns out fracking has moved onto area, unless it has been stopped. Quite a fight there...will try to find out if the frackers won... apparently land from the Wayne Forest was auctioned off Dec 13th. another auction supposed to take place in March...
...
http://www.acfan.org/In spite of both science and appeals from nearly 100,000 people, Kathleen Atkinson, U.S. Forest ServiceRegional Forester, allowed the Dec. 13 BLM auction to take place. Center for Biological Diversity is leading a coalition of environmental organizations in filing their intent to sue the government for this illegal and very dangerous action.

Now BLM has announced another sale of land for fracking in the same Marietta Unit of Wayne National Forest, slated for March 23.

Please call Senator Brown’s office (202-224-2315, press #3 to speak to a real person) and demand he intervene. Senator Brown has stated publicly that the decision to frack public lands must be evaluated “carefully,” “responsibly, and with respect for the land and local tourism.” Since the USFS has NEVER EVALUATED fracking impacts on the Forest, let alone taken formal public input, this sale is illegal, irresponsible, and must be cancelled.

Ask our elected official, Sherrod Brown, to act on his claims that he is concerned about climate and is concerned about the public having a voice in decisions that affect their National Forest.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Regional Forester Atkinson withdraw the parcels. She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Ms. Atkinson authorize a thorough Environmental Impact Statement on the impacts of fracking, as the National Environmental Policy Act requires, and which has NEVER been done for the Wayne.  Such a study requires evaluation of up-to-date science and a meaningful public input process. Other Foresters have required EIS studies of other forests, which have determined that, as is obvious, fracking will have significant impacts on air, climate, water, and forest health.

Please also call Regional Forester Kathleen Atkinson’s office (414-297-3765) and tell her the same: She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled. She must do an EIS of fracking impacts. Our climate, forest health, and our communities’ sustainable economies are all at stake.

Senator Brown: 202-224-2315 (press #3 to speak to a real person)

Kathleen Atkinson: 414-297-3765

 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on December 17, 2017, 11:05:50 AM
I just spent a few hours checking out land ads near Athens, OH, a really nice area...I noticed land cheap...
Turns out fracking has moved onto area, unless it has been stopped. Quite a fight there...will try to find out if the frackers won... apparently land from the Wayne Forest was auctioned off Dec 13th. another auction supposed to take place in March...
...
http://www.acfan.org/In spite of both science and appeals from nearly 100,000 people, Kathleen Atkinson, U.S. Forest ServiceRegional Forester, allowed the Dec. 13 BLM auction to take place. Center for Biological Diversity is leading a coalition of environmental organizations in filing their intent to sue the government for this illegal and very dangerous action.

Now BLM has announced another sale of land for fracking in the same Marietta Unit of Wayne National Forest, slated for March 23.

Please call Senator Brown’s office (202-224-2315, press #3 to speak to a real person) and demand he intervene. Senator Brown has stated publicly that the decision to frack public lands must be evaluated “carefully,” “responsibly, and with respect for the land and local tourism.” Since the USFS has NEVER EVALUATED fracking impacts on the Forest, let alone taken formal public input, this sale is illegal, irresponsible, and must be cancelled.

Ask our elected official, Sherrod Brown, to act on his claims that he is concerned about climate and is concerned about the public having a voice in decisions that affect their National Forest.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Regional Forester Atkinson withdraw the parcels. She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Ms. Atkinson authorize a thorough Environmental Impact Statement on the impacts of fracking, as the National Environmental Policy Act requires, and which has NEVER been done for the Wayne.  Such a study requires evaluation of up-to-date science and a meaningful public input process. Other Foresters have required EIS studies of other forests, which have determined that, as is obvious, fracking will have significant impacts on air, climate, water, and forest health.

Please also call Regional Forester Kathleen Atkinson’s office (414-297-3765) and tell her the same: She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled. She must do an EIS of fracking impacts. Our climate, forest health, and our communities’ sustainable economies are all at stake.

Senator Brown: 202-224-2315 (press #3 to speak to a real person)

Kathleen Atkinson: 414-297-3765
Also, there is some federal law relating to "tertiary aquifer", or maybe "quarternary aquifer", whereby if some facility locates above said aquifer, that the rules and regulations regarding contamination are more strict, due to the importance of said aquifer.  We ran into some of this stuff when looking in to the lead mining around here.  I believe, but am not absolutely certain, that the larger aquifers are considered more important to protect, as once contaminated, they are so massive that they remain contaminated for a long time, or perhaps as long as humans are here. 

It is something to investigate--the issue of a polluting facility situating itself above such aquifers, and is worth investigating all leads, no matter how seemingly minor.  Sometimes an obscure law has been uncovered by a diligent activist. 

A friend of ours shut down all that senseless clearcutting (by some other fancy-sounding name) on the Shawnee National Forest.  He is not a college graduate, has no law training, yet he singlehandedly scoured the books to find the law to protect yet another patch of forest from clearcutting.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 04, 2018, 12:37:35 PM
I just spent a few hours checking out land ads near Athens, OH, a really nice area...I noticed land cheap...
Turns out fracking has moved onto area, unless it has been stopped. Quite a fight there...will try to find out if the frackers won... apparently land from the Wayne Forest was auctioned off Dec 13th. another auction supposed to take place in March...
...
http://www.acfan.org/In spite of both science and appeals from nearly 100,000 people, Kathleen Atkinson, U.S. Forest ServiceRegional Forester, allowed the Dec. 13 BLM auction to take place. Center for Biological Diversity is leading a coalition of environmental organizations in filing their intent to sue the government for this illegal and very dangerous action.

Now BLM has announced another sale of land for fracking in the same Marietta Unit of Wayne National Forest, slated for March 23.

Please call Senator Brown’s office (202-224-2315, press #3 to speak to a real person) and demand he intervene. Senator Brown has stated publicly that the decision to frack public lands must be evaluated “carefully,” “responsibly, and with respect for the land and local tourism.” Since the USFS has NEVER EVALUATED fracking impacts on the Forest, let alone taken formal public input, this sale is illegal, irresponsible, and must be cancelled.

Ask our elected official, Sherrod Brown, to act on his claims that he is concerned about climate and is concerned about the public having a voice in decisions that affect their National Forest.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Regional Forester Atkinson withdraw the parcels. She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Ms. Atkinson authorize a thorough Environmental Impact Statement on the impacts of fracking, as the National Environmental Policy Act requires, and which has NEVER been done for the Wayne.  Such a study requires evaluation of up-to-date science and a meaningful public input process. Other Foresters have required EIS studies of other forests, which have determined that, as is obvious, fracking will have significant impacts on air, climate, water, and forest health.

Please also call Regional Forester Kathleen Atkinson’s office (414-297-3765) and tell her the same: She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled. She must do an EIS of fracking impacts. Our climate, forest health, and our communities’ sustainable economies are all at stake.

Senator Brown: 202-224-2315 (press #3 to speak to a real person)

Kathleen Atkinson: 414-297-3765
Also, there is some federal law relating to "tertiary aquifer", or maybe "quarternary aquifer", whereby if some facility locates above said aquifer, that the rules and regulations regarding contamination are more strict, due to the importance of said aquifer.  We ran into some of this stuff when looking in to the lead mining around here.  I believe, but am not absolutely certain, that the larger aquifers are considered more important to protect, as once contaminated, they are so massive that they remain contaminated for a long time, or perhaps as long as humans are here. 

It is something to investigate--the issue of a polluting facility situating itself above such aquifers, and is worth investigating all leads, no matter how seemingly minor.  Sometimes an obscure law has been uncovered by a diligent activist. 

A friend of ours shut down all that senseless clearcutting (by some other fancy-sounding name) on the Shawnee National Forest.  He is not a college graduate, has no law training, yet he singlehandedly scoured the books to find the law to protect yet another patch of forest from clearcutting.

ilinda, that is awesome that your friend prevented the clearcutting in the Shawnee National Forest.
The current head of the EPA and the head of the Department of the Interior, under the current Presidential Administration are busy un-creating environmental protective and land laws. I try to steer clear of political statements but that is a fact. I pay a lot of attention to these matters.
Federal land is being sold off for energy development like pipelines and fracking...and I do not see how that can even be legal.  :o
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 04, 2018, 12:45:41 PM
The only reason I mention any of this is, time for people to get land, long past time.
My hope and prayer is, the land parcels will not already be ruined fracking before people even settle there.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 04, 2018, 12:56:45 PM
https://www.landwatch.com/Athens-County-Ohio-House-for-sale/pid/27087014

Glouster, Athens County, Southeast, OH House For Sale - 16.02 Acres

Almost 1000 feet above sea level this property has great views! Beautiful 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom main home. Log cabin with bonus room. Two large pole barns. Pond. 16 acres all fenced! Plenty of area to ride horses, coral and separate pens. Nice family outing area. Nice work shop in one of the pole barns. Playhouse for kids. Stream running thru property. Old main trail for horses runs thru property. Hot Tub included! Appliances stay. Very well insulated. Three types of heat available. Very close to Smoke Rise!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 04, 2018, 01:07:35 PM
http://homeslandcountrypropertyforsale.com/sustainable-properties/

Sustainable, Off-Grid and Survival Properties for Sale
United Country Sustainable Properties for Sale is a destination real estate website dedicated to featuring sustainable, off-grid, survival and alternative energy properties.

If you are looking for off-grid location, survival  property or a self-sustainable property [ Etc. ]
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 04, 2018, 01:13:35 PM
Yowbarb Note: This might be a really good deal, providing the cabin and RV hookups are not in an area that floods. Price: $ 224,900
...
http://homeslandcountrypropertyforsale.com/sustainable-properties/properties/ozark-cabin-near-buffalo-river-national-river/

OZARK CABIN NEAR BUFFALO RIVER NATIONAL RIVER!

Price: $ 224,900
Ozark Mountain Hideaway! This Cabin sits on over 100 wooded acres, with RV hookups for 3! The property has a creek, lots of hills and hollows to explore, with deer, turkey, bear and more! A very secluded cabin, yet just off county road for easy access and less than 10 miles to Marshal, Arkansas! The fully modern 3 bdrm 2 bath home is cozy and inviting with a fireplace and fabulous views! A great place to call home or a go to for family and friends, or a rental with 3 RV spots near Buffalo National River! [ MORE...]

Richards, Karen
United Country - Three Rivers Realty
870-425-3820
870-656-5194
uc3riversrealty@gmail.com
www.mountainhome-realestate.net
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 04, 2018, 01:17:37 PM
Yowbarb Note: This might be a really good deal, providing the cabin and RV hookups are not in an area that floods. Price: $ 224,900
...
http://homeslandcountrypropertyforsale.com/sustainable-properties/properties/ozark-cabin-near-buffalo-river-national-river/

OZARK CABIN NEAR BUFFALO RIVER NATIONAL RIVER!

Price: $ 224,900
Ozark Mountain Hideaway! This Cabin sits on over 100 wooded acres, with RV hookups for 3! The property has a creek, lots of hills and hollows to explore, with deer, turkey, bear and more! A very secluded cabin, yet just off county road for easy access and less than 10 miles to Marshal, Arkansas! The fully modern 3 bdrm 2 bath home is cozy and inviting with a fireplace and fabulous views! A great place to call home or a go to for family and friends, or a rental with 3 RV spots near Buffalo National River! [ MORE...]

Richards, Karen
United Country - Three Rivers Realty
870-425-3820
870-656-5194
uc3riversrealty@gmail.com
www.mountainhome-realestate.net
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on January 08, 2018, 04:25:14 PM
This is in northern Reynolds County, Missouri, USA, and I just talked to the owner by phone to get price.  He said they have a realtor who is asking $475,000, but the owners have the option of selling it themselves and the guy said they would take $400,000.

I stopped by there a few days ago to photograph the sign and lake, and almost caught the sun setting in background, missing it by about 10 or so minutes!  What a bonus that would have been.

It has a three-bedroom house, barn and garage, all in good condition, with frontage on Big Brushy Creek and two spring-fed lakes, one of which is in the background.  The 142 acres encompasses both sides of the creek.  It has easy access to MO Highway J.

I have no financial interest in this property, don't know the owners, and am just posting it because of the beauty and appeal of this country property.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 10, 2018, 07:45:24 PM
Wow, ilinda, that really does look like a good value.  A home, lots of land enough for a small group to put their money together...
Doesn't look bad at all...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 10, 2018, 11:16:50 PM
Here's another MO property from LandWatch:
...
https://www.landwatch.com/Camden-County-Missouri-Land-for-sale/pid/28612312

119 +/- acres wooded tract with a cabin in Camden Co, MO

This tract is mostly wooded with trails running throughout the property. Both deer and turkey were seen while walking the tract. It will make a nice recreational property that is convenient to Lake of the Ozarks to the east and Truman Lake to the west.

The cabin could make a nice getaway / residence with easy access from Hwy 7.
Location: situated on the south side of Hwy 7 just east of Climax Springs, MO. Look for the RecLand sign.

Legal Description: Situated in Section 28, T39N, R19W, Camden Co, MO

Asking Price: $185,000

Call Brandon Young @ 573.280.2755 or see the RecLand site for all our listings.

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 10, 2018, 11:30:56 PM
https://www.landwatch.com/default.aspx?ct=D&pid=25050790&mltmid=23111

Millfield, Athens County, OH Land For Sale - 176.08 Acres

Affordable 176 acres now available in Athens County. Located adjacent to the small town of Jacksonville with easy access to State Route 13. Some of the property features include:

- Over 4300' of frontage on two roads
- Nice year round creek
- Rugged but beautiful hillsides and ridge tops
- 20 acre flat area on north side would make nice home site
- Some trails for riding,hiking and accessing hunting areas
- A mix of soft and hardwoods through out
- Approximately 15 acres at NW corner is located in a flood plain
- Electric and water services are available at the road
- Mineral rights are included with the sale

Annual real estate taxes are approximately $3318 and is not currently enrolled in CAUV.Contact listing agents Matt Whiteman at 740-603-1174 email mwhiteman@mossyoakproperties.com or Matt Collins at 614-679-6560 email mattc@mossyoakproperties.com for more information
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 10, 2018, 11:40:31 PM
https://www.ohio.com/akron/pages/anti-fracking-activists-in-ohio-train-to-fight-drillers
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 11, 2018, 12:01:05 AM
https://ballotpedia.org/Fracking_in_Missouri
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on January 11, 2018, 05:26:46 PM
https://ballotpedia.org/Fracking_in_Missouri
Also we know someone who has an interest in some small coal mining operation down in the bootheel (far southeast).

Fortunately Missouri's geology isn't as good for fossil fuels as it is for heavy metal mining.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on January 11, 2018, 05:33:42 PM
In all fairness, I should post the article that mentions Missouri having won the "honor" of being placed on the list of "The Ten Places NOT to Visit in the World".
Unfortunately the article is accurate, so I feel it should be posted since I've earlier posted "land for sale" ads.

http://www.kmov.com/story/37214715/missouri-named-in-top-10-places-not-to-visit-in-the-world

Missouri Named in Top 10 Places in the World Not to Visit


Posted: Jan 08, 2018 8:24 AM CST
Updated: Jan 08, 2018 8:25 AM CST
By Emily Van de Riet

 
Downtown St. Louis seen from Skyzoom4 (Credit: Zach Dalin, KMOV)
Downtown St. Louis seen from Skyzoom4 (Credit: Zach Dalin, KMOV)
ST. LOUIS, Mo. (KMOV.com) -

The state of Missouri was named one of the top 10 places not to visit in 2018 by the travel website Fodors.

Missouri is the only destination on the list that is within the United States.

The travel site points out that while Missouri is "full of wonders" such as limestone caverns and the Budweiser Clydesdales, the reasons not to visit the state outweigh the benefits.

So, how did Missouri make its way onto the list? Discrimination and crime are the top reasons, including an advisory from the NAACP to not visit Missouri.

"Unfortunately, Missouri is also the place where SB 43 was passed making it more difficult to sue employers for discrimination, a state representative argued that homosexuals weren’t human beings, a tourist who got lost and ran out of gas was later found murdered in his jail cell without ever being put under arrest, and two men were hunted down and shot on suspicion of being Muslim on the outskirts of Kansas City. And that’s just in 2017," the article states.

The article also cites the NAACP, telling visitors there is "looming danger" when visiting the state.

Nimrod Chapel, Jr., the head of the Missouri chapter of the NAACP, told Fodor's Missouri has a standard of laws that are "only applicable to some people," and cites discrimination against people of color, women, the disabled and more.

Among the other "no-go" destinations on the list are The Galapagos, Honduras, Cuba, Myanmar and more.

To see the full Fodor's No List 2018, click here.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: R.R. Book on January 11, 2018, 06:02:06 PM
Quote
the list of "The Ten Places NOT to Visit in the World".

 :D
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on January 11, 2018, 06:26:15 PM
https://ballotpedia.org/Fracking_in_Missouri
Also we know someone who has an interest in some small coal mining operation down in the bootheel (far southeast).

Fortunately Missouri's geology isn't as good for fossil fuels as it is for heavy metal mining.

Well, glad it is not ideal for fossil fuel and all that brings with it.  :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on January 12, 2018, 05:02:13 PM
https://ballotpedia.org/Fracking_in_Missouri
Also we know someone who has an interest in some small coal mining operation down in the bootheel (far southeast).

Fortunately Missouri's geology isn't as good for fossil fuels as it is for heavy metal mining.

Well, glad it is not ideal for fossil fuel and all that brings with it.  :)
Yes, it's great for those who already live here, well the fossil fuel part.

Missouri has (or recently had, possibly still) another distinction!  Missouri was listed as the Meth Capitol of the United States, (maybe the world) a couple of years ago because of two things:  1) lots of wooded, hilly,  and isolated terrain that is often not visible from any road, paved or dirt; and 2) Interstates I-44, I-70 and I-55 intersect in MO and bring I-55 north-south comings and goings into contact with I-44 and I-70 movements, basically connecting both coasts, as well as connecting north and south borders.

 Meth is a huge cash crop in MO.  There have been several meth labs right on our road, one of which caused the owner to burn down his house.  Accident of course.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 08, 2018, 11:50:35 AM
Yes, it's great for those who already live here, well the fossil fuel part.

Missouri has (or recently had, possibly still) another distinction!  Missouri was listed as the Meth Capitol of the United States, (maybe the world) a couple of years ago because of two things:  1) lots of wooded, hilly,  and isolated terrain that is often not visible from any road, paved or dirt; and 2) Interstates I-44, I-70 and I-55 intersect in MO and bring I-55 north-south comings and goings into contact with I-44 and I-70 movements, basically connecting both coasts, as well as connecting north and south borders.

 Meth is a huge cash crop in MO.  There have been several meth labs right on our road, one of which caused the owner to burn down his house.  Accident of course.

ilinda, thanks for sharing that info. That's good to know.
Well, the same geographic features which make it easier for meth producers to hide from authorites, would make it easier for survivalists to do their thing and prepare, and build without interference. :)

This image is near Weston MO
[ http://www.onlyinyourstate.com/missouri/the-small-town-in-mo-thats-one-of-the-coolest-in-the-u-s/ ] 
...

(http://cdn.onlyinyourstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/13895354_1041008295946538_714437320366883844_n-700x463.jpg)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 08, 2018, 12:02:37 PM
I was just taking a look at the possibility of Weston Missouri as a survival location, but it is close to the Missouri River and is at an elevation of only 797 ft (243 m)
I don't know much about the geography, perhaps there are hilly areas near Weston that would provide some safety from flooding.
...
http://www.netstate.com/states/geography/mapcom/mo_mapscom.htm

This elevation map of Missouri illustrates the number of feet or meters the state rises above sea level. As you can see, most of Missouri resides at, or more than 500 feet above, sea level. The lower parts of the state, 500 feet and less above sea level, are found along the Mississippi, the Missouri, and the St. Francis Rivers.
The lowest point in Missouri is 230 above sea level at the St. Francis River (Dunklin County), a tributary of the Mississippi River in the southeastern part of the state. It forms the western border of the boot hill that projects into Arkansas.

The highest point in the state is Taum Sauk Mountain, which rises 1,772 feet above sea level in the St. Francois Mountains of southeast Missouri. It's located in Iron County, about 110 miles south of St. Louis. The 7,500-acre state park, Taum Sauk Mountain State Park surrounds Taum Sauk Mountain.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on February 08, 2018, 06:39:38 PM
Yes, it's great for those who already live here, well the fossil fuel part.

Missouri has (or recently had, possibly still) another distinction!  Missouri was listed as the Meth Capitol of the United States, (maybe the world) a couple of years ago because of two things:  1) lots of wooded, hilly,  and isolated terrain that is often not visible from any road, paved or dirt; and 2) Interstates I-44, I-70 and I-55 intersect in MO and bring I-55 north-south comings and goings into contact with I-44 and I-70 movements, basically connecting both coasts, as well as connecting north and south borders.

 Meth is a huge cash crop in MO.  There have been several meth labs right on our road, one of which caused the owner to burn down his house.  Accident of course.

ilinda, thanks for sharing that info. That's good to know.
Well, the same geographic features which make it easier for meth producers to hide from authorites, would make it easier for survivalists to do their thing and prepare, and build without interference. :)

This image is near Weston MO
[ http://www.onlyinyourstate.com/missouri/the-small-town-in-mo-thats-one-of-the-coolest-in-the-u-s/ ] 
...

(http://cdn.onlyinyourstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/13895354_1041008295946538_714437320366883844_n-700x463.jpg)
You're absolutely right and that is why many folks are moving here from other states--it's still not highly populated.  That little town of Weston sounds totally charming!  I've never spent much time near Kansas City and know very little about that part of the state.  Thanks for sharing the link as the area looks quite appealing.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 13, 2018, 08:48:16 PM
Yes it really does look appealing...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 13, 2018, 09:01:47 PM
Wichita Mountains of southwestern Oklahoma a possibility, I wonder?

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: R.R. Book on February 14, 2018, 04:34:05 AM
This is making me homesick... :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 14, 2018, 02:15:29 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Mountains_Wildlife_Refuge

Wichita Mountains Wildlife Refuge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Mountains_Wildlife_Refuge#Climate   Climate
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 14, 2018, 03:23:06 PM
Yowbarb Note: The house on this 47 acre property "sleeps 265," would be room for a lot more. Ten RV hookups, above a lake...There would be some room for more domes, underground storages, crops, animals. $325,000. It might probably be possible for a group of adults to purchase this, with a few grand apiece. And bring along a lot of teens and kids, who might make up about 2/3 of the group. Work woul neee to be done on place, suplies brought in, yet it would not take much for a large group to put their resources together and make an agreement and purchase this place...Just sharing ideas...of what could be done.
More pics and info, at this link:
 

http://homeslandcountrypropertyforsale.com/mountain-properties/properties/mountain-retreat-recreational-ranch-or-camp-nashobaok/

Mountain Retreat Recreational Ranch Or Camp Nashoba, OK

Mountain Properties - Active P.o. Box 80, Nashoba, Pushmataha County, OK

REDUCED PRICE FOR QUICK SALE A MUST SEE THIS RECREATIONAL RANCH LOCATED IN BEAUTIFUL MOUNTAINS OF SOUTHEASTERN, OK. JUST OFF HWY 144 IN NASHOBA WITH BLACK FORK CREEK RUNNING THRU.THIS MOUNTAIN RETREAT COULD BE USED FOR ANY GROUP WITH A VISION, HAS 47 ACRES WITH LARGE PINES & HARD WOODS WITH GREAT VIEWS OF MOUNTAINS IN A SECLUDED SETTING.GIVE US A CALL FOR MORE DETAILED INFORMATION!! THANKS MARK GEE CELL 918-448-3148 OR OFFICE 918-569-4757

PROPERTY FEATURES:
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Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 14, 2018, 03:42:30 PM
PS the previous ad and ideas I posted about the former Babtist youth camp, Camp Jon David - well it was hit by a tornado in 2015 and they could not afford to fix it back up again...So, not all the buildings would be in working order. Even so, it seems a lot of property and a lot of potential for that amount of money. $325,000, priced for quick sale.

I happned to see a GoFundMe page for this camp: https://www.gofundme.com/vjan5w5w
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 14, 2018, 03:48:54 PM
I don't have much of an idea on the validity of this map, which has been circulating in the PX and survival communities for years.
It is part of my frame of reference, and I cannot help but refer to it. The black areas are the ones which will suposedly NOT BE SUBMERGED after a pole shift.

I did notice that most of the state of Oklahoma and most of Kansas are in the not-submerged zone.
The eastern half of Nebraska is in the non-submerged zone.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 14, 2018, 04:02:00 PM
US Map of states

(https://www.mapsofworld.com/usa/usa-maps/united-states-map.jpg)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on February 14, 2018, 04:39:41 PM
I don't have much of an idea on the validity of this map, which has been circulating in the PX and survival communities for years.
It is part of my frame of reference, and I cannot help but refer to it. The black areas are the ones which will suposedly NOT BE SUBMERGED after a pole shift.

I did notice that most of the state of Oklahoma and most of Kansas are in the not-submerged zone.
The eastern half of Nebraska is in the non-submerged zone.
Not sure how exact it is, but much of the "possibly/probably submerged" area in the centrally-north-south swath encompasses the Mississippi River basin, and the New Madrid Fault runs up the Miss. River. from Missouri's "bootheel" upward, so that entire north-south swath, IMHO, would/could definitely be in a danger zone.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on February 14, 2018, 04:50:04 PM
PS the previous ad and ideas I posted about the former Babtist youth camp, Camp Jon David - well it was hit by a tornado in 2015 and they could not afford to fix it back up again...So, not all the buildings would be in working order. Even so, it seems a lot of property and a lot of potential for that amount of money. $325,000, priced for quick sale.

I happned to see a GoFundMe page for this camp: https://www.gofundme.com/vjan5w5w
Sometimes, even when a price is drastically reduced and nobody bids on it, and you've already looked at it, the realtor may contact you and ask you to make an offer.  Once in a great while someone will luck out and if you can detect that they are desparate for a sale, they may take a truly low-ball offer. 

Friends of ours did that one time, mainly because they loved the 56 acres on the Black River, but the problem was there is no bridge across the river to access the property.  So the realtor told them to just go ahead and make an offer, so they made a ridiculously low offer and were totally shocked when it was accepted.

Thinking about that storm damage to the OK property, one never knows how badly they want to sell.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on February 14, 2018, 05:40:02 PM
PS the previous ad and ideas I posted about the former Babtist youth camp, Camp Jon David - well it was hit by a tornado in 2015 and they could not afford to fix it back up again...So, not all the buildings would be in working order. Even so, it seems a lot of property and a lot of potential for that amount of money. $325,000, priced for quick sale.

I happned to see a GoFundMe page for this camp: https://www.gofundme.com/vjan5w5w
Sometimes, even when a price is drastically reduced and nobody bids on it, and you've already looked at it, the realtor may contact you and ask you to make an offer.  Once in a great while someone will luck out and if you can detect that they are desparate for a sale, they may take a truly low-ball offer. 

Friends of ours did that one time, mainly because they loved the 56 acres on the Black River, but the problem was there is no bridge across the river to access the property.  So the realtor told them to just go ahead and make an offer, so they made a ridiculously low offer and were totally shocked when it was accepted.

Thinking about that storm damage to the OK property, one never knows how badly they want to sell.
ilinda, after I had already put up a couple posts about that place, then I happened to see the GoFundMe page which was up when they were trying to salvage the place. It is possible they are still trying. It was then I found out about the tornado.
It is sad, actually.
I had a thought about this, after the fact. In that region, everyone and his brother would know about the kids' camp which got stuck by a tornado. Everyone. So, a large group of people moving in would just naturally draw a lot of attention and curiosity. Not the best scenario for a survival group, to start out so famous.
I'd rather get a good deal similar but more isolated and perhaps one which was not so well known...
ilinda, I hear what you're saying, thanks for that story about your friend. Looks like it really is possible to get a great deal, when people are desperate enough to sell...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on February 15, 2018, 06:06:22 PM
PS the previous ad and ideas I posted about the former Babtist youth camp, Camp Jon David - well it was hit by a tornado in 2015 and they could not afford to fix it back up again...So, not all the buildings would be in working order. Even so, it seems a lot of property and a lot of potential for that amount of money. $325,000, priced for quick sale.

I happned to see a GoFundMe page for this camp: https://www.gofundme.com/vjan5w5w
Sometimes, even when a price is drastically reduced and nobody bids on it, and you've already looked at it, the realtor may contact you and ask you to make an offer.  Once in a great while someone will luck out and if you can detect that they are desparate for a sale, they may take a truly low-ball offer. 

Friends of ours did that one time, mainly because they loved the 56 acres on the Black River, but the problem was there is no bridge across the river to access the property.  So the realtor told them to just go ahead and make an offer, so they made a ridiculously low offer and were totally shocked when it was accepted.

Thinking about that storm damage to the OK property, one never knows how badly they want to sell.
ilinda, after I had already put up a couple posts about that place, then I happened to see the GoFundMe page which was up when they were trying to salvage the place. It is possible they are still trying. It was then I found out about the tornado.
It is sad, actually.
I had a thought about this, after the fact. In that region, everyone and his brother would know about the kids' camp which got stuck by a tornado. Everyone. So, a large group of people moving in would just naturally draw a lot of attention and curiosity. Not the best scenario for a survival group, to start out so famous.
I'd rather get a good deal similar but more isolated and perhaps one which was not so well known...
ilinda, I hear what you're saying, thanks for that story about your friend. Looks like it really is possible to get a great deal, when people are desperate enough to sell...
Excellent logic.  I wasn't even thinking in that vein, but I see exactly what you mean--if TSHTF, everybody and his brother in that area will be visiting the new neighbors, who probably won't want visitors at that point.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 10, 2018, 09:54:46 PM
True, ilinda...thanks for the input...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 10, 2018, 10:45:10 PM
Yowbarb Note:
Here are a couple TN maps, New Madrid seismic zone and the counties map. Karst topography.
There seems to be a plentitude of acreage available in TN.
When finding deals, check to see the location and distance from the New Madrid...
...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on March 10, 2018, 11:42:49 PM
Yowbarb Note: "Unrestricted land"
...
https://www.landwatch.com/Sevier-County-Tennessee-Land-for-sale/pid/327083409

Sevierville, Sevier County, Eastern, TN Land For Sale - 20 Acres

Property type:      Land
Parcel Size:          20 Acres
Price:                  $99,900
MLS or other ID:  211808

What a deal! Over 20 acres of unrestricted land perfect for your private estate or homestead. This beautiful land has 5 +/- acres of cleared level to rolling land with year round creek and 15+/- wooded acreage that rises to the top of the ridge. There is an abundance of hardwood, wildlife and even a seasonal waterfall. Over 1100 ft of road frontage. Have all the seclusion and privacy that you could ever want and yet be only 20 minutes from Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg with all it has to offer. No steep driving to access this property and the roads are very well maintained. Additional acreage available. *May consider exchange.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2018, 01:19:13 AM
https://www.landwatch.com/Athens-County-Ohio-Land-for-sale/pid/25073752
Athens, Athens County, Southeast, OH Land For Sale - 33.33 Acres

33.33 Acres in Athens City, close to all conveniences, all utilities, and absolute nature lovers utopia. Tree'd, paths, habitat for birds, wildlife, & butterflies. You can own your own park! $ 215,000.00
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2018, 01:30:14 AM
Some unrestricted land ads:

https://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php/Property-Types/suitable-for-campers-unrestricted.html
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on April 07, 2018, 10:30:02 AM
Some unrestricted land ads:

https://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php/Property-Types/suitable-for-campers-unrestricted.html
Wow, some of those really sound worth visiting, assuming you're still looking at TN as a possible loc.  Several appear to be on creeks or rivers, one has two waterfalls, and much more.  Keep us posted if you see any of these.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 08, 2018, 01:25:51 PM
Some unrestricted land ads:

https://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php/Property-Types/suitable-for-campers-unrestricted.html
Wow, some of those really sound worth visiting, assuming you're still looking at TN as a possible loc.  Several appear to be on creeks or rivers, one has two waterfalls, and much more.  Keep us posted if you see any of these.

Hi ilinda, I will look into those more... I am interested in TN as long as not too near the New Madrid Seismic Zone...
Karst may be a problem there I think.
Re parcels being on a river, I would never encourage that... Having a fairly large parcel with a creek or two flowing through it, not bad... Any parcel or building site near a river needs to be 60 feet higher than the river banks, per the zetas. I still have them as one point of reference... as far as an abundance of water, waterfalls, may be OK if land area big enough and the re are flat building sites  on top of a plateau area...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on April 08, 2018, 05:23:01 PM
Some unrestricted land ads:

https://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php/Property-Types/suitable-for-campers-unrestricted.html
Wow, some of those really sound worth visiting, assuming you're still looking at TN as a possible loc.  Several appear to be on creeks or rivers, one has two waterfalls, and much more.  Keep us posted if you see any of these.

Hi ilinda, I will look into those more... I am interested in TN as long as not too near the New Madrid Seismic Zone...
Karst may be a problem there I think.
Re parcels being on a river, I would never encourage that... Having a fairly large parcel with a creek or two flowing through it, not bad... Any parcel or building site near a river needs to be 60 feet higher than the river banks, per the zetas. I still have them as one point of reference... as far as an abundance of water, waterfalls, may be OK if land area big enough and the re are flat building sites  on top of a plateau area...
Yes, the only appeal of rivers or creeks would be if the ground is rolling or hilly, with homesides up high and dry,  and yes, building in bottomland is especially a bad idea.  We often see warnings that one must be at 700' or greater in elevation, but I feel over 800 is way better.   

Karst is definitely something to think about, as it is fairly widespread through much of the Ozarks.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 09, 2018, 07:20:06 PM
Some unrestricted land ads:

https://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php/Property-Types/suitable-for-campers-unrestricted.html
Wow, some of those really sound worth visiting, assuming you're still looking at TN as a possible loc.  Several appear to be on creeks or rivers, one has two waterfalls, and much more.  Keep us posted if you see any of these.

Hi ilinda, I will look into those more... I am interested in TN as long as not too near the New Madrid Seismic Zone...
Karst may be a problem there I think.
Re parcels being on a river, I would never encourage that... Having a fairly large parcel with a creek or two flowing through it, not bad... Any parcel or building site near a river needs to be 60 feet higher than the river banks, per the zetas. I still have them as one point of reference... as far as an abundance of water, waterfalls, may be OK if land area big enough and the re are flat building sites  on top of a plateau area...
Yes, the only appeal of rivers or creeks would be if the ground is rolling or hilly, with homesides up high and dry,  and yes, building in bottomland is especially a bad idea.  We often see warnings that one must be at 700' or greater in elevation, but I feel over 800 is way better.   

Karst is definitely something to think about, as it is fairly widespread through much of the Ozarks.

I agree, 800 is far better...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 09, 2018, 07:24:25 PM
Here's another site with recreational property... I'm not sure yet if there are restrictions... This ad, east central KENTUCKY. There will be karst in some areas, not in others. Map link:[/navy]

https://water.usgs.gov/ogw/karst/kig2002/jbe_map.html
...AD:

https://www.whitetailproperties.com/hunting-land/kentucky/powell/backwoods-recreational-property-in-east-central-kentucky2

Backwoods Recreational Property In East Central Kentucky

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on April 10, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
Here's another site with recreational property... I'm not sure yet if there are restrictions... This ad, east central KENTUCKY. There will be karst in some areas, not in others. Map link:[/navy]

https://water.usgs.gov/ogw/karst/kig2002/jbe_map.html
...AD:

https://www.whitetailproperties.com/hunting-land/kentucky/powell/backwoods-recreational-property-in-east-central-kentucky2

Backwoods Recreational Property In East Central Kentucky
Those rock outcroppings are beautiful, eh?  That one looks very interesting and the price probably can't be beat.  Check mineral rights, as that is a very big thing these days with the frackers wanting to frack this entire planet to death.  Nowadays getting all mineral rights would be a top priority for many.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 10, 2018, 10:45:21 PM
Here's another site with recreational property... I'm not sure yet if there are restrictions... This ad, east central KENTUCKY. There will be karst in some areas, not in others. Map link:[/navy]

https://water.usgs.gov/ogw/karst/kig2002/jbe_map.html
...AD:

https://www.whitetailproperties.com/hunting-land/kentucky/powell/backwoods-recreational-property-in-east-central-kentucky2

Backwoods Recreational Property In East Central Kentucky
Those rock outcroppings are beautiful, eh?  That one looks very interesting and the price probably can't be beat.  Check mineral rights, as that is a very big thing these days with the frackers wanting to frack this entire planet to death.  Nowadays getting all mineral rights would be a top priority for many.

ilinda, that is a really good point, a person needs to find out about nearby fracking and check to see if the purchaser would own all mineral rights.
Many a lovely, long-time family-owned ranch in Texas was ruined by fracking...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on April 30, 2018, 08:59:53 PM
Athens, OH seems like a cool place...
Possible that some locations in Athens county might be good... Athens itself is only a little over 700 feet in elevation but there are  the "Western Hills" in the area...

Probably a lot of farm land with rivers but should be hills nearby in several locations... In order to get some elevation above the river plains.

https://www.landandfarm.com/
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: R.R. Book on May 02, 2018, 05:23:33 AM
I have to add a humorous anecdote about relocating:

There has been a wave of metropolitan New Yorkers seeking rural property in our area.  I was visiting with two of my elderly Mennonite friends yesterday, and a newcomer from New York walked up and greeted us.  We were friendly with her in return, but her every attempt at conversation met with a deer-in-the-headlights facial expression from my friends.  First the woman assumed that we all were familiar with a pop music artist from New York, and secondly she assumed that everyone owned and watched television.  My friends, being Plain, had never seen television in their lives.

The New Yorker was a very sweet person, and my heart went out to her, as she had just lost her mother and needed to talk about it.  Note to newcomers moving to Pennsylvania: If a local woman wears an ankle-length dress, her hair in a bun, a prayer covering on her head, and a modesty cape across her bustline, she will not be conversant in pop culture, but can teach you anything you want to know about simple living. :)

(https://plainandfancygirl.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/mennonite-woman_quilt_p193.jpg)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on May 02, 2018, 08:57:27 PM
Still it seems amazing that someone would assume that elderly, rural, farm people would be familiar with some rock or hip-hop star.  It is almost laughable, because I've occasionally met people from the East Coast who sort of suggested an air of being a bit more sophisticated and "in-the-know" than most others. Certainly not all, and maybe not most, but some do project that.

Eventually Newcomer might come to realize why few if any of the Mennonite would be familiar with such things.  Especially in these times.  In time, maybe even a rather short while, Newcomer might be a real blessing and joy to know!
 
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: R.R. Book on May 03, 2018, 08:36:34 AM
Absolutely.  :)
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings: Least restricted areas
Post by: R.R. Book on May 04, 2018, 10:34:36 AM
Below is a map of least restricted zoning areas in the U.S. in red, in which landowners can build an outhouse over a cesspool rather than being restricted to a costly septic system, put a mobile home on the grounds, go off-grid, etc.  Please click on map to enlarge and view counties.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/ad/e9/e4ade97e072878c070b8a35839f0dddf.jpg)

http://earthship-academy-experience.tumblr.com/post/44392980404/crowdsourcing-pockets-of-freedom-using-google-maps

Referred by Oppenheimer Ranch Project:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYgWVHQgzxU
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: ilinda on May 04, 2018, 09:05:31 PM
A friend who,until a few years ago, lived several miles north of us, in an area that is equally isolated and rural, has informed me that the place across the road from her former home is about to be put on the market, and she wanted me to let my friends know.

I am waiting to hear the price and # of acres, as it is rural, near a creek, and has an old barn and old house, presumably a fixer-upper, and the current owners are in their 80's, had promised never to sell it, but now feel compelled to do so, due to the distance from St. Louis.

As soon as I hear details, will post it.  It is not on a paved road, but is on a gravel/dirt county road in a fairly remote area, which I believe a lot of people are looking for now.  Update to follow....

Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings: Least restricted areas
Post by: Yowbarb on May 05, 2018, 06:23:07 PM
Below is a map of least restricted zoning areas in the U.S. in red, in which landowners can build an outhouse over a cesspool rather than being restricted to a costly septic system, put a mobile home on the grounds, go off-grid, etc.  Please click on map to enlarge and view counties.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/ad/e9/e4ade97e072878c070b8a35839f0dddf.jpg)

http://earthship-academy-experience.tumblr.com/post/44392980404/crowdsourcing-pockets-of-freedom-using-google-maps

Referred by Oppenheimer Ranch Project:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYgWVHQgzxU

Awesome! R.R. thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 05, 2018, 06:24:05 PM
A friend who,until a few years ago, lived several miles north of us, in an area that is equally isolated and rural, has informed me that the place across the road from her former home is about to be put on the market, and she wanted me to let my friends know.

I am waiting to hear the price and # of acres, as it is rural, near a creek, and has an old barn and old house, presumably a fixer-upper, and the current owners are in their 80's, had promised never to sell it, but now feel compelled to do so, due to the distance from St. Louis.

As soon as I hear details, will post it.  It is not on a paved road, but is on a gravel/dirt county road in a fairly remote area, which I believe a lot of people are looking for now.  Update to follow....

ilinda, thanks
looking forward to hearing more about it... I'm sure this could help someone...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 05, 2018, 06:48:11 PM
This 31 acres is offered on ebay. 
Pittman TN, at the base of the Smokeys. 1200+ ft elevation...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittman_Center,_Tennessee
...
ebay ad reads:  31+ Acres at the base of the Smokey Mountains
                                      Land in historic Pittman Center, Tennesse

Time left: Time left: 17d 09h 5/23, 6:25AM
Price:US $432,000.00 Buy It Now
Best Offer:  Make Offer
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 05, 2018, 08:03:04 PM
RE the previous land ad, some ideas on 31 acres.
If 20 adults with their families bought the land together, the divided cost is about $145,000 for the land.  $432,000.00 / 20 = less than $22,000 apiece.
I realize there are additional costs these are approx amounts to secure the land itself.
I think that would be doable for a lot of people.
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: Yowbarb on May 05, 2018, 08:23:07 PM
Important to clear a large central area on your land, so you can observe intruders  as they approach.
The large central area can be the shared areawhere survival land residents congregate, cook meals in the beginning, group together for survival and security, as domes, undergrounds are being built...
Title: Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
Post by: R.R. Book on May 06, 2018, 03:25:14 PM
 :) :)