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I am a layman in all this, but my feelings about what AseekerToo posted is that the Jung state / experiment is one such a state that we are controlled by whoever it may be, an archetype from the collective consciousness, another spirit or any other intelligent manifestation.On the other hand, when we go hyper (by love or hatred) then WE are in control. my guess....Carlos
I know. Odd isn't it. It is a real conundrum lol. Conundrum: Anything that arouses curiosity or perplexes because it is unexplained, inexplicable, or secret.Where is Spock when you need him..........
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