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Mark_75:
Hi everyone :)

Errrv, I'm in the UK and to obtain a firearm of decent calibre you need to jump through quite a few hoops unless you know someone dodgey enough lol. Anyway, and at any rate, I'm simply not planning on carrying guns etc. I do have a genuine hunting boomerang that was crafted from hardwood for my family like almost 30 years ago....proper hunting one, so I'm planning to practise with that...even just for the fun of it :D

I've been wondering about planning when you aren't carrying weapon(s) and I was thinking your board would be the best place to ask  8). I know its different in the USA and yeah there I think it pretty much a requirement in most people's minds. In the UK I think it does depend a fair bit where you live as to how likely you would need one. I'm just curious about things like choosing safe areas or just where you decide to settle in for the day(s) etc. Would you go for the capability for concealment mostly or still just really hard to get to places (even if the escape routes for example are exposed)? And yeah just any other ideas people might think handy for this....even if you do have firearms I think this is going to be important to consider in certain scenarios...

Cheers, Mark

probe64322:
concealment might be your only option depending what does happen,if you can escape to a safeish environment then go for it would be my opinion.
As to weapons you could get a crossbow/long bow,throwing knifes etc,being armed with something is better than not being armed.

P.

Mark_75:
Thanks for your reply P. I might talk to old mate at the army surplus about those possibilities...even just for hunting :)

I dunno though, there's a reason I don't want to rely on weapons apart from hand held and it's pretty deep feeling. I believe I'll be far more useful to someone else alive anyway lol. And I think this would be true of everyone here. There's the element that we don't know and the dimensions we can't see. I'm pretty sure we are meant to have faith in certains ways with certain knowledge (how to as Errrv says simply be able to get by with the land with the right knowledge). I know we've seen all the portrayal of chaos and yeah it wont surprise me. But in some scenarios my first plan isn't even to bug out but to visit some neighbours and see if we can organise a plan in the smallish area I'm in :0) It will all depend on what will be, so much of the reason for the spiritual development because I know the result of that answers many things (though for myself I'm still not quite where I'd like to be with that as yet).

However, what I'm thinking about isn't really alternative weapons, but more about ideas for say early warning signals to camp perimeter entry, or traps and ways to delay pursuit, or even like physcological ways to force situations where guns aren't that useful... It's an interesting think to consider mainly as for many situations it's gonna be better to try and avoid shooting I would think :)

From what Errrv said about his main roles as recon, any firefight could easily lead to being compromised due to being outnumbered and my likely initial situation for bugging out is being on my own so.....lol I don't see a big point in gettingi n one to start with.

1969quartz0:
Mark without a gun I would say your best bet is to stay very low on the radar out of sight out of mind. I would not want to be caught in a SHTF situation unarmed, if someone over there was able to get a firearm and lots of ammo even from a shady fellow and then hide it until the apocalyptic times are here, that person would be a whole lot more likely to survive. But that person would have to weigh the risk of getting caught buying it. Maybe one could find a WWII vet willing to part with some items stored in a trunk. There are many vets in the states that have interesting trunks stowed I am sure UK vets had the same idea.

Willsorr75:

--- Quote from: Mark_75 on April 08, 2012, 03:59:24 PM ---Thanks for your reply P. I might talk to old mate at the army surplus about those possibilities...even just for hunting :)

I dunno though, there's a reason I don't want to rely on weapons apart from hand held and it's pretty deep feeling. I believe I'll be far more useful to someone else alive anyway lol. And I think this would be true of everyone here. There's the element that we don't know and the dimensions we can't see. I'm pretty sure we are meant to have faith in certains ways with certain knowledge (how to as Errrv says simply be able to get by with the land with the right knowledge). I know we've seen all the portrayal of chaos and yeah it wont surprise me. But in some scenarios my first plan isn't even to bug out but to visit some neighbours and see if we can organise a plan in the smallish area I'm in :0) It will all depend on what will be, so much of the reason for the spiritual development because I know the result of that answers many things (though for myself I'm still not quite where I'd like to be with that as yet).

However, what I'm thinking about isn't really alternative weapons, but more about ideas for say early warning signals to camp perimeter entry, or traps and ways to delay pursuit, or even like physcological ways to force situations where guns aren't that useful... It's an interesting think to consider mainly as for many situations it's gonna be better to try and avoid shooting I would think :)

From what Errrv said about his main roles as recon, any firefight could easily lead to being compromised due to being outnumbered and my likely initial situation for bugging out is being on my own so.....lol I don't see a big point in getting n one to start with.

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My opinion, weapons (guns, knives, explosives, bows, etc) should definitely be a last resort, but it never hurts to have a weapon for a worse case scenario. The last thing anyone wants is to see a loved one or a child get hurt, and then know they could have prevented the incident if they had something to defend that person. In a SHTF situation there is always going to be someone depending on someone. No one, excluding Erv :), could live on their own successfully for an extended period of time. Just because I have a weapon doesn't mean I'll use it, but you better believe I'll use it if I think one of my children or my neighbor is in trouble. You have a better chance of survival with a weapon, and when you survive, those who depend on you have a better chance to survive as well. I think an alternative offense is definitely necessary as well.

I have faith I'm going to be hear for my family for a long time. I also hate spending money on things i do not see an immediate benefit from, but I pay monthly for life insurance. Because of that life insurance I'm able to clear my mind. A weapon is the same. You hope you never need, but if a situation warrants it, you sure are glad you have it....

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