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« Reply #270 on: December 17, 2017, 12:32:31 AM »
I just spent a few hours checking out land ads near Athens, OH, a really nice area...I noticed land cheap...
Turns out fracking has moved onto area, unless it has been stopped. Quite a fight there...will try to find out if the frackers won... apparently land from the Wayne Forest was auctioned off Dec 13th. another auction supposed to take place in March...
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http://www.acfan.org/In spite of both science and appeals from nearly 100,000 people, Kathleen Atkinson, U.S. Forest ServiceRegional Forester, allowed the Dec. 13 BLM auction to take place. Center for Biological Diversity is leading a coalition of environmental organizations in filing their intent to sue the government for this illegal and very dangerous action.

Now BLM has announced another sale of land for fracking in the same Marietta Unit of Wayne National Forest, slated for March 23.

Please call Senator Brown’s office (202-224-2315, press #3 to speak to a real person) and demand he intervene. Senator Brown has stated publicly that the decision to frack public lands must be evaluated “carefully,” “responsibly, and with respect for the land and local tourism.” Since the USFS has NEVER EVALUATED fracking impacts on the Forest, let alone taken formal public input, this sale is illegal, irresponsible, and must be cancelled.

Ask our elected official, Sherrod Brown, to act on his claims that he is concerned about climate and is concerned about the public having a voice in decisions that affect their National Forest.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Regional Forester Atkinson withdraw the parcels. She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Ms. Atkinson authorize a thorough Environmental Impact Statement on the impacts of fracking, as the National Environmental Policy Act requires, and which has NEVER been done for the Wayne.  Such a study requires evaluation of up-to-date science and a meaningful public input process. Other Foresters have required EIS studies of other forests, which have determined that, as is obvious, fracking will have significant impacts on air, climate, water, and forest health.

Please also call Regional Forester Kathleen Atkinson’s office (414-297-3765) and tell her the same: She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled. She must do an EIS of fracking impacts. Our climate, forest health, and our communities’ sustainable economies are all at stake.

Senator Brown: 202-224-2315 (press #3 to speak to a real person)

Kathleen Atkinson: 414-297-3765

 

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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #271 on: December 17, 2017, 11:05:50 AM »
I just spent a few hours checking out land ads near Athens, OH, a really nice area...I noticed land cheap...
Turns out fracking has moved onto area, unless it has been stopped. Quite a fight there...will try to find out if the frackers won... apparently land from the Wayne Forest was auctioned off Dec 13th. another auction supposed to take place in March...
...

http://www.acfan.org/In spite of both science and appeals from nearly 100,000 people, Kathleen Atkinson, U.S. Forest ServiceRegional Forester, allowed the Dec. 13 BLM auction to take place. Center for Biological Diversity is leading a coalition of environmental organizations in filing their intent to sue the government for this illegal and very dangerous action.

Now BLM has announced another sale of land for fracking in the same Marietta Unit of Wayne National Forest, slated for March 23.

Please call Senator Brown’s office (202-224-2315, press #3 to speak to a real person) and demand he intervene. Senator Brown has stated publicly that the decision to frack public lands must be evaluated “carefully,” “responsibly, and with respect for the land and local tourism.” Since the USFS has NEVER EVALUATED fracking impacts on the Forest, let alone taken formal public input, this sale is illegal, irresponsible, and must be cancelled.

Ask our elected official, Sherrod Brown, to act on his claims that he is concerned about climate and is concerned about the public having a voice in decisions that affect their National Forest.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Regional Forester Atkinson withdraw the parcels. She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Ms. Atkinson authorize a thorough Environmental Impact Statement on the impacts of fracking, as the National Environmental Policy Act requires, and which has NEVER been done for the Wayne.  Such a study requires evaluation of up-to-date science and a meaningful public input process. Other Foresters have required EIS studies of other forests, which have determined that, as is obvious, fracking will have significant impacts on air, climate, water, and forest health.

Please also call Regional Forester Kathleen Atkinson’s office (414-297-3765) and tell her the same: She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled. She must do an EIS of fracking impacts. Our climate, forest health, and our communities’ sustainable economies are all at stake.

Senator Brown: 202-224-2315 (press #3 to speak to a real person)

Kathleen Atkinson: 414-297-3765
Also, there is some federal law relating to "tertiary aquifer", or maybe "quarternary aquifer", whereby if some facility locates above said aquifer, that the rules and regulations regarding contamination are more strict, due to the importance of said aquifer.  We ran into some of this stuff when looking in to the lead mining around here.  I believe, but am not absolutely certain, that the larger aquifers are considered more important to protect, as once contaminated, they are so massive that they remain contaminated for a long time, or perhaps as long as humans are here. 

It is something to investigate--the issue of a polluting facility situating itself above such aquifers, and is worth investigating all leads, no matter how seemingly minor.  Sometimes an obscure law has been uncovered by a diligent activist. 

A friend of ours shut down all that senseless clearcutting (by some other fancy-sounding name) on the Shawnee National Forest.  He is not a college graduate, has no law training, yet he singlehandedly scoured the books to find the law to protect yet another patch of forest from clearcutting.

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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #272 on: January 04, 2018, 12:37:35 PM »
I just spent a few hours checking out land ads near Athens, OH, a really nice area...I noticed land cheap...
Turns out fracking has moved onto area, unless it has been stopped. Quite a fight there...will try to find out if the frackers won... apparently land from the Wayne Forest was auctioned off Dec 13th. another auction supposed to take place in March...
...

http://www.acfan.org/In spite of both science and appeals from nearly 100,000 people, Kathleen Atkinson, U.S. Forest ServiceRegional Forester, allowed the Dec. 13 BLM auction to take place. Center for Biological Diversity is leading a coalition of environmental organizations in filing their intent to sue the government for this illegal and very dangerous action.

Now BLM has announced another sale of land for fracking in the same Marietta Unit of Wayne National Forest, slated for March 23.

Please call Senator Brown’s office (202-224-2315, press #3 to speak to a real person) and demand he intervene. Senator Brown has stated publicly that the decision to frack public lands must be evaluated “carefully,” “responsibly, and with respect for the land and local tourism.” Since the USFS has NEVER EVALUATED fracking impacts on the Forest, let alone taken formal public input, this sale is illegal, irresponsible, and must be cancelled.

Ask our elected official, Sherrod Brown, to act on his claims that he is concerned about climate and is concerned about the public having a voice in decisions that affect their National Forest.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Regional Forester Atkinson withdraw the parcels. She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled.

Ask Senator Brown to demand that Ms. Atkinson authorize a thorough Environmental Impact Statement on the impacts of fracking, as the National Environmental Policy Act requires, and which has NEVER been done for the Wayne.  Such a study requires evaluation of up-to-date science and a meaningful public input process. Other Foresters have required EIS studies of other forests, which have determined that, as is obvious, fracking will have significant impacts on air, climate, water, and forest health.

Please also call Regional Forester Kathleen Atkinson’s office (414-297-3765) and tell her the same: She is in charge of the Wayne and of the decision to allow it to be fracked. She can WITHDRAW the parcels, and the sale will be cancelled. She must do an EIS of fracking impacts. Our climate, forest health, and our communities’ sustainable economies are all at stake.

Senator Brown: 202-224-2315 (press #3 to speak to a real person)

Kathleen Atkinson: 414-297-3765
Also, there is some federal law relating to "tertiary aquifer", or maybe "quarternary aquifer", whereby if some facility locates above said aquifer, that the rules and regulations regarding contamination are more strict, due to the importance of said aquifer.  We ran into some of this stuff when looking in to the lead mining around here.  I believe, but am not absolutely certain, that the larger aquifers are considered more important to protect, as once contaminated, they are so massive that they remain contaminated for a long time, or perhaps as long as humans are here. 

It is something to investigate--the issue of a polluting facility situating itself above such aquifers, and is worth investigating all leads, no matter how seemingly minor.  Sometimes an obscure law has been uncovered by a diligent activist. 

A friend of ours shut down all that senseless clearcutting (by some other fancy-sounding name) on the Shawnee National Forest.  He is not a college graduate, has no law training, yet he singlehandedly scoured the books to find the law to protect yet another patch of forest from clearcutting.

ilinda, that is awesome that your friend prevented the clearcutting in the Shawnee National Forest.
The current head of the EPA and the head of the Department of the Interior, under the current Presidential Administration are busy un-creating environmental protective and land laws. I try to steer clear of political statements but that is a fact. I pay a lot of attention to these matters.
Federal land is being sold off for energy development like pipelines and fracking...and I do not see how that can even be legal.  :o

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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #273 on: January 04, 2018, 12:45:41 PM »
The only reason I mention any of this is, time for people to get land, long past time.
My hope and prayer is, the land parcels will not already be ruined fracking before people even settle there.

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« Reply #274 on: January 04, 2018, 12:56:45 PM »
https://www.landwatch.com/Athens-County-Ohio-House-for-sale/pid/27087014

Glouster, Athens County, Southeast, OH House For Sale - 16.02 Acres

Almost 1000 feet above sea level this property has great views! Beautiful 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom main home. Log cabin with bonus room. Two large pole barns. Pond. 16 acres all fenced! Plenty of area to ride horses, coral and separate pens. Nice family outing area. Nice work shop in one of the pole barns. Playhouse for kids. Stream running thru property. Old main trail for horses runs thru property. Hot Tub included! Appliances stay. Very well insulated. Three types of heat available. Very close to Smoke Rise!

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« Reply #275 on: January 04, 2018, 01:07:35 PM »
http://homeslandcountrypropertyforsale.com/sustainable-properties/

Sustainable, Off-Grid and Survival Properties for Sale
United Country Sustainable Properties for Sale is a destination real estate website dedicated to featuring sustainable, off-grid, survival and alternative energy properties.

If you are looking for off-grid location, survival  property or a self-sustainable property [ Etc. ]

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« Reply #276 on: January 04, 2018, 01:13:35 PM »
Yowbarb Note: This might be a really good deal, providing the cabin and RV hookups are not in an area that floods. Price: $ 224,900
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http://homeslandcountrypropertyforsale.com/sustainable-properties/properties/ozark-cabin-near-buffalo-river-national-river/

OZARK CABIN NEAR BUFFALO RIVER NATIONAL RIVER!

Price: $ 224,900
Ozark Mountain Hideaway! This Cabin sits on over 100 wooded acres, with RV hookups for 3! The property has a creek, lots of hills and hollows to explore, with deer, turkey, bear and more! A very secluded cabin, yet just off county road for easy access and less than 10 miles to Marshal, Arkansas! The fully modern 3 bdrm 2 bath home is cozy and inviting with a fireplace and fabulous views! A great place to call home or a go to for family and friends, or a rental with 3 RV spots near Buffalo National River! [ MORE...]

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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #277 on: January 04, 2018, 01:17:37 PM »
Yowbarb Note: This might be a really good deal, providing the cabin and RV hookups are not in an area that floods. Price: $ 224,900
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http://homeslandcountrypropertyforsale.com/sustainable-properties/properties/ozark-cabin-near-buffalo-river-national-river/

OZARK CABIN NEAR BUFFALO RIVER NATIONAL RIVER!

Price: $ 224,900
Ozark Mountain Hideaway! This Cabin sits on over 100 wooded acres, with RV hookups for 3! The property has a creek, lots of hills and hollows to explore, with deer, turkey, bear and more! A very secluded cabin, yet just off county road for easy access and less than 10 miles to Marshal, Arkansas! The fully modern 3 bdrm 2 bath home is cozy and inviting with a fireplace and fabulous views! A great place to call home or a go to for family and friends, or a rental with 3 RV spots near Buffalo National River! [ MORE...]

Richards, Karen
United Country - Three Rivers Realty
870-425-3820
870-656-5194
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« Reply #278 on: January 08, 2018, 04:25:14 PM »
This is in northern Reynolds County, Missouri, USA, and I just talked to the owner by phone to get price.  He said they have a realtor who is asking $475,000, but the owners have the option of selling it themselves and the guy said they would take $400,000.

I stopped by there a few days ago to photograph the sign and lake, and almost caught the sun setting in background, missing it by about 10 or so minutes!  What a bonus that would have been.

It has a three-bedroom house, barn and garage, all in good condition, with frontage on Big Brushy Creek and two spring-fed lakes, one of which is in the background.  The 142 acres encompasses both sides of the creek.  It has easy access to MO Highway J.

I have no financial interest in this property, don't know the owners, and am just posting it because of the beauty and appeal of this country property.

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« Reply #279 on: January 10, 2018, 07:45:24 PM »
Wow, ilinda, that really does look like a good value.  A home, lots of land enough for a small group to put their money together...
Doesn't look bad at all...

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« Reply #280 on: January 10, 2018, 11:16:50 PM »
Here's another MO property from LandWatch:
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https://www.landwatch.com/Camden-County-Missouri-Land-for-sale/pid/28612312

119 +/- acres wooded tract with a cabin in Camden Co, MO

This tract is mostly wooded with trails running throughout the property. Both deer and turkey were seen while walking the tract. It will make a nice recreational property that is convenient to Lake of the Ozarks to the east and Truman Lake to the west.

The cabin could make a nice getaway / residence with easy access from Hwy 7.
Location: situated on the south side of Hwy 7 just east of Climax Springs, MO. Look for the RecLand sign.

Legal Description: Situated in Section 28, T39N, R19W, Camden Co, MO

Asking Price: $185,000

Call Brandon Young @ 573.280.2755 or see the RecLand site for all our listings.


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« Reply #281 on: January 10, 2018, 11:30:56 PM »
https://www.landwatch.com/default.aspx?ct=D&pid=25050790&mltmid=23111

Millfield, Athens County, OH Land For Sale - 176.08 Acres

Affordable 176 acres now available in Athens County. Located adjacent to the small town of Jacksonville with easy access to State Route 13. Some of the property features include:

- Over 4300' of frontage on two roads
- Nice year round creek
- Rugged but beautiful hillsides and ridge tops
- 20 acre flat area on north side would make nice home site
- Some trails for riding,hiking and accessing hunting areas
- A mix of soft and hardwoods through out
- Approximately 15 acres at NW corner is located in a flood plain
- Electric and water services are available at the road
- Mineral rights are included with the sale

Annual real estate taxes are approximately $3318 and is not currently enrolled in CAUV.Contact listing agents Matt Whiteman at 740-603-1174 email mwhiteman@mossyoakproperties.com or Matt Collins at 614-679-6560 email mattc@mossyoakproperties.com for more information

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« Reply #284 on: January 11, 2018, 05:26:46 PM »
https://ballotpedia.org/Fracking_in_Missouri
Also we know someone who has an interest in some small coal mining operation down in the bootheel (far southeast).

Fortunately Missouri's geology isn't as good for fossil fuels as it is for heavy metal mining.

 

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