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Alfred Williams

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2011, 07:20:08 AM »
is good to use tried and true ultra low tech. Parts and fuel for stuff that can be done by hand will be vital if it is a complete restart of our infrastructure. Stockpile food, water, hand tools and seeds{{:>)
It is not what you know.
It is what you do with what you know!!

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2011, 03:27:37 PM »
Add a post hole digger to the list

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2011, 10:30:10 PM »
Add a post hole digger to the list

Cheapo universal starter list:

Bags – all kinds
Barbed wire in bundles
Bottles
Boxes, cardboard
Bricks, whole or broken - haul away for free type
Buckets, metal
Buckets, plastic painting and construction type
Boxes, cardboard
Cardboard, scrap
Chicken wire
Cloths
Concrete in bags, placed inside waterproof boxes.
Concrete mixer machine whatever size you can get
Concrete hand mixing kit and supplies and instructions
Containers, used, various sizes
Duct tape
Electrical generation devices: Free energy type – AG
G.F.R.C. materials Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete
G.F.R.C . Sprayer and face safety equipment (for nose and mouth)
Gloves – work gloves of all sizes
Glue, cheap bulk jug
Goggles (ICON reminded us about the goggles, thank you!)
Hammers
Hatchets
Knives
Lumber – throwaway, scrap, pick up for free, etc.
Metal scrap - secured into buckets or put in bundles
Mortar Mix
Nails – all sizes
Nail guns
Needles for stitching cloth and plastic materials together
Newspapers
Nose masks
Paper scrap
Post hole digger
Rags
Rocks, haul away for free, etc.
Ropes
Sawdust
Saws
Scissors
Shower curtains, old
Superglue
Tarps
Tents
Thread, large (and large needles)
Tin cans
Tires – used, haul away for free, etc.
Twine
Water buckets
Water container with spigot for the builders to drink
Wire
Wire cutters
Wood, from your land.
Wood, scrap from lumber yards
Wood stoves

Bane

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2011, 05:15:34 PM »
Check out superadobe... http://calearth.org/ all you need to build a proper house is some barbed wire, earth and polyethylene bags! It's also a design NASA is reviewing for buildings on Mars and Moon...I'm also planning of building one of those...eventually!...lol
« Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 11:09:04 AM by VillageIdiot »

Bane

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2011, 06:32:07 PM »
why I'm drawn to adobe homes is that you can use pretty much any material instead of bags and make bags yourself. wire is common everywhere. thumpers can be made easily, earth is everywhere. you can easily find everything you need for a great home pretty much everywhere! i bet that with a help of 2-3 people, i could put up a decent home within a 2 weeks...maybe even less! i'm not big fan of tires...i hate the smell, plus they would all be pretty much different sizes/hight, so it would require additional calculations, sorting, etc...not to mention gathering hundreds of tires all over the place, transporting them to location, etc! Hey, i'm certainly not Dennis Weaver!...imagine doing that in no-power/no-vehicle situation! it's almost impossible! if i'm bugging out of the city, into the wilderness, i would consider only 3 options: superadobe, log cabin or cob cabin.Although...a nice, comfy natural cave sure looks appealing!

Cheers!

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2011, 06:44:30 PM »
Very good point on the tires Bane, unless they are in place already I suppose, the smaell could be nasty also, but when push comes to shove we will use what we can for shelters.

Bane

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2011, 07:04:20 PM »
It's little hard for me to imagine tires being in place Susan...only place where one can find huge amount of tires would be the garbage depot, and i have absolutely no intention of collecting tires in shtf situation, running around extremely dangerous garbage! I'd rather dig an underground shelter than use garbage contaminated with god knows what! in shtf world, one cut on a piece of garbage can kill you. if i'm going to live in a primitive world, i'll try to keep my habitat as pure as possible. the thought of building my walls and house from tires makes me very uneasy...but that's just my opinion. however, i can pretty much guarantee you that you would build much nicer, cleaner and finer house out of adobe than of tires!
Cheers!

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2011, 07:29:32 PM »
It's little hard for me to imagine tires being in place Susan...only place where one can find huge amount of tires would be the garbage depot, and i have absolutely no intention of collecting tires in shtf situation, running around extremely dangerous garbage! I'd rather dig an underground shelter than use garbage contaminated with god knows what! in shtf world, one cut on a piece of garbage can kill you. if i'm going to live in a primitive world, i'll try to keep my habitat as pure as possible. the thought of building my walls and house from tires makes me very uneasy...but that's just my opinion. however, i can pretty much guarantee you that you would build much nicer, cleaner and finer house out of adobe than of tires!
Cheers!

Hey guys I was talking about a tire house with concrete etc over it... Not just plain stinky tires! You can even put up wood walls on the inside. Lots of people doing it... must be some way to cover up so it doesn't smell.
As far as hauling etc. why not... probably lots of places where they give away old tires.
Anyway when I get my land the tires will be on my list.

Earthbag Home in Arkansas - Packing Tires - 2 MAJORS
http://youtu.be/kNjgijOUlVs

Just for fun a video family building a tire house... not really instructional... more on that later.
http://raisehightheroofbeamcarpenters.blogspot.com/

- Yowbarb
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 08:52:39 PM by Yowbarb »

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 09:28:02 PM »
LOL....sorry...somehow my mind always shifts to shtf situation...sure, today, in present "civilized" society, you can build anything and from any material...darn...i'm obviously under lot of shtf and wrol pressure... :)

Oh! I'm surprised anyone read that...hehe.
Well it is only midnight here...

I do not claim to be an expert and to each his own.
Last three videos for now. Will post more in the topic on actual shelters and homes:


1)  Battering Tires for a Wall Made of Rammed Earth Encased in Steel Belted Rubber.
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Uploaded by earthship on May 18, 2010

VIDEO: http://youtu.be/pwLvtuF4qnc

Brief overview from the field about battering tires in a wall made of rammed earth encased in recycled steel belted rubber, aka: 'tire walls.'

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2) This one is an "experiment" a lady did with tires, glass bottles and cement... for  windows to let in a little light. - YB

2)  Earthbag Dome Window made with TIRE, BOTTLES, CANS, mortar- 4 MAJORS

ArdomeTV

Uploaded by ArdomeTV on Oct 14, 2009

VIDEO: http://youtu.be/oXefOhY-8es  0:56

Crazy Green Earthbag Home Decorative Window is made with an old tire, aluminum cans, beer bottles, and mortar. Lisa Alvarado-Majors shows a sample window and where they will be placed on the earthbag home she and Paul are building in Garfield, Arkansas. The earthbag home is still on budget...only $1000 spent so far with $4000 still remaining. www.asiasi.tv

3) 

Bane

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2011, 03:08:16 PM »
I watched a video where they tried to move or capsize one small superadobe building with two huge trucks. They said that if the building moves even half inch, it fails...what happened actually was that building didn't move a millimeter, but trucks suffered damages...quite proof enough for me that it would withstand almost any quake or wind...JM2C
Cheers!

Bane

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2011, 01:50:17 AM »
It's a compilation of videos, too big for me to post...here's the torrent so everyone can download them

http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/90804145/Sustainable+Housing+from+Natural+Materials?tab=summary

In the torrent, the video is called Natural Materials. From 46-th minute on is the test. All videos are fantastic!
Apparently, EVERYONE can build these structures easily!
Check this out:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2k9eOrUWmQ 
And this:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaOsXHnX6gw&NR=1

Cheers!
« Last Edit: June 05, 2011, 02:12:55 AM by Bane »

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2011, 01:15:21 PM »
Can you imagine a city built entirely from adobe buildings? Now that would be a sight!
Here's another educational video:

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2226896/004781902602/

Yowbarb

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2011, 04:24:26 PM »
Here is something to stash for building in the Aftertime:  Concrete cloth.
Not trying to promote any particular brand but here is a video which is fairly educational.
Sounds like a very valuable material to have. I would keep it safely stashed underground if there were extreme earth changes. In the Aftertime it would be easy to build with and have countless uses... Yowbarb


Concrete Cloth - Commercial Concreting made Easy  1:52 1,176

VIDEO LINK:  http://youtu.be/TA56di29hQs

Uploaded by Ignitiontwentyone on Mar 14, 2011

Available in Bundaberg at http://www.activetradsolutions.com

Concrete Cloth is a flexible, cement impregnated fabric that hardens when wet to form a thin, durable, water & fire proof concrete layer.

A few sample uses of this product are:
- Concrete Ditch Lining
- Concrete Culverts
- Gabion Reinforcement
- Pipeline Protection
- Ground Surfacing
- Erosion Protection
- Retaining Walls

Concrete Cloth - Commercial Concreting made Easy

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2011, 04:41:44 PM »
Another video from the same company. This is in the UK.

Concrete Canvas Shelters Civil Applications

VIDEO LINK:  http://youtu.be/HY56QDV7-C0

Uploaded by Cloudsters on Jun 28, 2011 

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This is not makeshift building material but it surely would be handy to have.
(US) company. - Yowbarb
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Haven't found out yet how much this costs...
YB
SS-2020-10 Inflatable Military Shelter     2:29  62,553 Views

VIDEO LINK: http://youtu.be/yQ0SLY6jXPY

Uploaded by FederalFabrics on Sep 5, 2007

Watch a 20' x 20' military grade shelter deploy unassisted in under 4 minutes

jrobert69

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Re: Building Homes and Shelters After Planet X
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2011, 05:31:34 PM »
Those are pretty cool. Would love to get one to set up on some land up north. Shipping would prob be to expensive.


http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/05/concrete-canvas.html

A bag weighing 230 kilograms (approximately 500 pounds) inflates into a shelter with 16 square meters (172 square feet) of floor space. Cost is estimated at £1,100 ($2,100), while an equivalent-size Portakabin (a type of portable building widely used in the United Kingdom) costs about £4,000 ($7,700). The same-size tent costs about £600 ($1,150).

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2005/03/66872

Aid agency chiefs have been impressed by the simplicity and economy of the idea. A bag weighing 230 kilograms (approximately 500 pounds) inflates into a shelter with 16 square meters (172 square feet) of floor space. Cost is estimated at £1,100 ($2,100), while an equivalent-size Portakabin (a type of portable building widely used in the United Kingdom) costs about £4,000 ($7,700). The same-size tent costs about £600 ($1,150).

 

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