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inselemel

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Now even the weather forecasts are to be censored!!!
« on: January 13, 2012, 02:09:50 PM »
Under the SA Weather Service Amendment Bill, 2011
"Amendments to the SA Weather Service Bill that threaten independent forecasters with fines and imprisonment for issuing severe weather warnings are draconian, the DA said on Thursday.
“(They are) an attempt... to establish and protect an unfair monopoly on services offered by the Weather Service, some of which are Commercial services,” said DA environmental spokesman Gareth Morgan.
“The bill, if passed in its current form, will have various undesirable consequences, and will make South Africans less safe,” he said.
The bill would make it illegal for someone to issue warnings about severe weather or air pollution without written permission from the national weather service.
It would also make it an offence to supply false or misleading information about the weather service, or intentionally or negligently commit an act which negatively affects the organisation.
An aim of the bill was to limit the damage caused by incorrect forecasts about dangerous weather.
First offenders could face up to five years in prison or a R5 million fine while subsequent offenders faced a maximum of 10 years' imprisonment or a R10m fine.

The bill would limit the liability of the weather service in any damage, loss or injury caused by its actions under the act.
A new clause would also allow a court to compensate the weather service for any monetary advantage the accused would have gained from a relevant offence.
“Perhaps the Weather Service sees this as a potential new income stream for itself,” Morgan said.
He said it was concerning that the bill failed to define a “severe weather event”.
It was more concerning that a citizen with vital information about a tornado, for example, would face “clumsy bureaucracy” when applying for written permission to broadcast a warning, he said.
“There is no reason to believe that the Weather Service, with its limited ability to measure and observe weather changes all around South Africa in real time, can respond quickly to all severe weather events, offering affected people sufficient warning.”
Morgan called for the offences clause to be removed.
Interested parties could submit written comment on the bill before the end of Thursday.
Public hearings were scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday. – Sapa"

Public hearings were scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday, i have heard through a little blue birdy (Twitter) that the meetings have been postponed as all MP's have been instructed to visit all schools in their Constituencies next week?  -  that is all i know for now. I do not know if there is an amendment to Education in South Africa and that is why all MP's have been ordered to visit all schools in their respective Constituencies or maybe it's for something else :-X (maybe i am adding 2 +2 and getting 5 but maybe it has to do with what was discussed on the Ascension topic about disclosure is very very close. - it is probably wishful thinking on my part that that is what it is about.) either way this Bill and the continuing censorship of the media in SA is quite shocking and downright draconian >:( in my humble opinion.

More info can be found on http://sawdis1.blogspot.com/ which is South African Weather and Disaster Observation Service.  SAWDOS use voluntary weather observers. These volunteers help keep their local communities safe and informed by providing timely and accurate reports of severe weather to the SAWDOS for publication on the Blog. The SAWDOS is a non-profit organization that renders a FREE COMMUNITY-BASED SERVICE.

and the next article is from East Coast Radio website
"Durban environmental groups have slammed a new bill that seeks to restrict all weather and air pollution warnings issued in South Africa.
The Weather Service Amendment Bill says only the South African Weather Service should issue warnings and anyone who sends out an alert without written approval from the Service could face fines of up to R10-million or 10 years in prison. 
Local NGO Groundwork says environment officials have told them that the air pollution section of the bill was "mistakenly" inserted and will be removed.   
The group's  Rico Euripidou says however if the bill is passed in its current form, it will spell bad news for groups that warn communities when there is an air quality threat.
"It would have curtailed the freedom of environmental groups such as GroundWork or the South Durban Environmental Community Alliance to warn people within the community when we have a genuine concern about air pollution," he said.
He says they will also be lobbying against the proposed law.
"We're going to be making amended suggestions to the Department of Environmental Affairs, so hopefully we will manage to eliminate this provision within this bill, which is a very bad provision the way we read it."
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inselemel

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Re: Now even the weather forecasts are to be censored!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 02:36:42 AM »
For all you South Africans or people who think the Secrecy Bill is wrong there are protests being planned by Join the International Protest against the South African Secrecy Bill, this is the bigger picture which the Weather Amendment Bill is only a small part. It's outright draconian and quite unbelievable in this day and age. >:( >:( >:(

 "The protest against the South African Secrecy Bill is going global! Join the protest now as South Africans around the world join together against The Protection of State Information Bill, a law that threatens our democracy. In December the first protest in London saw over 100 people standing outside the South African embassy and making their voices heard - it got us noticed. This time let's get ALL South Africans around the world to make sure that as the bill moves before the NCOP the cries of South African citizens are at the foremost of their minds.

We have planned four weeks of peaceful protests around the world during January and February. They will be held in the following locations:

New York City, US
Date: 21 January
Time: 11am to 12.30
Place: South African Consulate General. 333 East 38th Street, 9th Floor, New York, NY
RSVP: http://www.facebook.com/events/329400890426724/

Mumbai on 28 January
(Details TBC)

Perth, Australia
Date: 11 February
Time: 11am to 12.30
Place: South African Honorary Consulate in Perth, Western Australia, Suite 3, 1297 Hay Street, West Perth WA 6005
RSVP: http://www.facebook.com/events/341618112523296/

London, UK
Date: 18 February 2011
Time: 11:00 to 12.30
Place: South Africa House, Trafalgar Square, London, WC2N 5DP
RSVP: http://www.facebook.com/events/353077281376216/

Most importantly we want your photos! Wherever you are in the world, even if you're in South Africa, or you can't get to one of the protests we're organising, we would like you to submit your protest photos to our group - we want to see photos of you, together with your friends and family dressed in your most "proudly South African" gear with black tape over your mouths to indicate the impact that the secrecy bill will have on South African society. These photos will be compiled into a video demonstrating the full volume of voices against the Secrecy Bill.

Visit our group for more information email: NoToSecrecy@gmail.com

If you don’t make a stand now, our country’s future could be one where the government can censor any information they deem to be in the “National Security” and make it a punishable offence to be in possession of that information. In November 2011 the South African House of Parliament voted in The Protection of Information Bill. This Bill will unstitch the very fabric of our Constitution and it will criminalise the freedoms that so many of our people fought for. But there is still hope. The Bill still needs to be passed by the National Council of Provinces and by the President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma before it becomes law. We can ensure that it doesn’t. Join us to let the South African government know exactly what we, the people of South Africa, think of The Protection of Information Bill.

Make sure you're informed. You can read the bill here: http://www.info.gov.za/view/DownloadFileAction?id=151319".

inselemel

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Re: Now even the weather forecasts are to be censored!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 04:41:58 AM »
I personally think that the Weather Amendment bill is to do with the Earth Changes and keeping it from the public, people have mobiles and the internet if they see weird weather they will pass it on, but it may be too late by then but if tptb know extreme weather is coming and do not inform the public in advance that is tantamount to murder, if deaths occur. >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Now even the weather forecasts are to be censored!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 10:45:54 AM »
For all you South Africans or people who think the Secrecy Bill is wrong there are protests being planned by Join the International Protest against the South African Secrecy Bill, this is the bigger picture which the Weather Amendment Bill is only a small part. It's outright draconian and quite unbelievable in this day and age. >:( >:( >:(

 "The protest against the South African Secrecy Bill is going global! Join the protest now as South Africans around the world join together against The Protection of State Information Bill, a law that threatens our democracy. In December the first protest in London saw over 100 people standing outside the South African embassy and making their voices heard - it got us noticed. This time let's get ALL South Africans around the world to make sure that as the bill moves before the NCOP the cries of South African citizens are at the foremost of their minds.

We have planned four weeks of peaceful protests around the world during January and February. They will be held in the following locations:

New York City, US
Date: 21 January
Time: 11am to 12.30
Place: South African Consulate General. 333 East 38th Street, 9th Floor, New York, NY
RSVP: http://www.facebook.com/events/329400890426724/

Mumbai on 28 January
(Details TBC)

Perth, Australia
Date: 11 February
Time: 11am to 12.30
Place: South African Honorary Consulate in Perth, Western Australia, Suite 3, 1297 Hay Street, West Perth WA 6005
RSVP: http://www.facebook.com/events/341618112523296/

London, UK
Date: 18 February 2011
Time: 11:00 to 12.30
Place: South Africa House, Trafalgar Square, London, WC2N 5DP
RSVP: http://www.facebook.com/events/353077281376216/

Most importantly we want your photos! Wherever you are in the world, even if you're in South Africa, or you can't get to one of the protests we're organising, we would like you to submit your protest photos to our group - we want to see photos of you, together with your friends and family dressed in your most "proudly South African" gear with black tape over your mouths to indicate the impact that the secrecy bill will have on South African society. These photos will be compiled into a video demonstrating the full volume of voices against the Secrecy Bill.

Visit our group for more information email: NoToSecrecy@gmail.com

If you don’t make a stand now, our country’s future could be one where the government can censor any information they deem to be in the “National Security” and make it a punishable offence to be in possession of that information. In November 2011 the South African House of Parliament voted in The Protection of Information Bill. This Bill will unstitch the very fabric of our Constitution and it will criminalise the freedoms that so many of our people fought for. But there is still hope. The Bill still needs to be passed by the National Council of Provinces and by the President of South Africa, Jacob Zuma before it becomes law. We can ensure that it doesn’t. Join us to let the South African government know exactly what we, the people of South Africa, think of The Protection of Information Bill.

Make sure you're informed. You can read the bill here: http://www.info.gov.za/view/DownloadFileAction?id=151319".

Mel, thanks for posting this info!
What's the DA in South Africa?
Not the same as DA in the US, I suppose. I could look it up but might not find...
Batb. T.

inselemel

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Re: Now even the weather forecasts are to be censored!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 10:49:58 AM »
The DA is the Democratic Alliance a political party in SA that are in opposition to the ANC who are the party in power.

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Re: Now even the weather forecasts are to be censored!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 11:34:20 AM »
Under the SA Weather Service Amendment Bill, 2011
"Amendments to the SA Weather Service Bill that threaten independent forecasters with fines and imprisonment for issuing severe weather warnings are draconian, the DA said on Thursday.

I'm with you on this, Mel - this is Draconian.

 

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