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Jimfarmer:
This topic is for current factual information about the upcoming pole shift.  Recent forecasts would be acceptable, but not dreams or ancient prophesies.  Timing indications, especially related to ascension, are of special interest.  ({[Please no minimize aside remarks, so as to keep related postings close together.  Thanks - Jim]})

Here is a link to a similar topic, "Re: Here is the expected Px-distances from Earth, dates, and Angles of Planet X wit" , in this same section: http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=1735.0

Here is another relevant bit from "Re: Understanding Earth Changes: Member jroberts69 posted this site"  « Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 10:23:56 AM » at http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=3480.msg65017#msg65017 :

" So, as always, it is good news and bad news.  Well, even the bad news is good in relation to it being indications of progress towards that aspect of the transformation that require physical changes as well as spiritual changes.  The final result should be worth the pain for those who are of Service-To-Others orientation.
 
I am working on a report that will be useful to us all.  Hint: pole shift predicted for mid-May 2013 -- moderate confidence.  I'll send it out as a special edition of 2012 News [my personal newsletter -- Jim] in a few days.  "

And another bit in " Re: The Big Picture « Reply #43 on: November 17, 2012, 08:01:25 PM »" at  http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=383.msg64606#msg64606 :

" To review the very basics of the situation at this time:
1)  The flyby of Planet X will cause a pole shift of 84 degrees.
2)  Ascension to fourth density will happen, but some humans and other life forms will not ascend with the Earth.
3)  As of this date, 17/nov/12, we do not know which will happen first, pole shift or ascension, nor do we know any approximate dates, although there is ample evidence that preliminaries of both events/processes have been in progress for several years and are intensifying.
4)  A very, very large number of spirits and extraterrestrials are involved in both processes, and they will render some assistance in some situations, but that does not imply mass rescue, although some large-scale operations might occur.
 
So, I suggest that you hope for the best but prepare for the worst.  Well, prepare yourself and immediate family for both the pole shift and the ascension, in hopes that you will survive the pole shift if it happens first and also qualify for ascension and/or assistance in any case.  "

Jimfarmer:
Parts of a channeling today at http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/mike05-12-12.html :

[start extracts]
With only days to go to the first part of your experience of a powerful upliftment, we urge you to try and arrange to be free on the 12th. and able to relax and enjoy it. As a key moment in your Ascension process, it is one to be totally aware of and remembered for the intensity of the energy. It is not that every person will have an identical experience, but if you are prepared for it you will be left with some memory of the changes within. Some of you will wake up from your sleep before 11.11 Universal time, and will be able to have full awareness of what is taking place. Others will sleep through it, yet may have vivid dreams when the energies are at work. However, all will receive the energies and benefit from them regardless of their conscious state at the time.

To have Ascension follow on so quickly after 12.12. means that you will have an ongoing experience, that will heighten your senses and leave you in no doubt that you have benefitted from it. It will be a most uplifting occasion and there will be a new mood of happiness and joy within those you meet. You will be able to feel the difference in people around you, and sense a deeper calmness and peace as if suddenly all the darkness has gone.
...
If you are one who experiences little change in your self, do not be concerned as according to your metabolism it will affect some people in different ways. From this month onwards your progress will speed up, as the excitement builds up at the prospect of disclosure. It can come in different ways, so expect the unexpected as certain options remain open. ... Many countries have already made it known that we will be welcome to visit them, and each one in turn will be paid a visit. Major events such as a flyover will happen a little later
...
People will soon start talking amongst themselves about the Ascension process, having heard that something major is due to take place. There will be some confusion as they will not know who to turn to for the truth. As Lightworkers you can come into your own and gently spread the word, taking care not to overdo the "end time" scenario.
...
As your vibrations move higher you will find that you can not only halt the aging process, but also reverse it
...
Do not expect the changes to all come at once, as they usually come with your continued evolution and progress through the different dimensions. ... For the time being the most important thing is for you not to relax your concentration on Ascension, and keep out of anything that is still strictly of the lower vibrations. You should be continuing to cleanse your body and releasing anything that is of the 3D world. You are leaving it now and cannot take the old remnants of your attachments to it. That should be easy as they will no longer serve you in any way. You may also find yourself moving from your old crowd of friends, because they do not represent your interests any more.
[end extracts]
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So, perhaps ascension will happen before the pole shift, or at least be well advanced by then.  Regarding my report about pole shift date:  I have found irregularities in part of the source data, so now I can't use it verbatim, as I expected to do.  So far, the partial result is: "the pole shift can be expected to occur in April, August, or December of some year."  I will post section by section as I finish them.
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Jimfarmer:
Here is the Introduction and Section 1 of the essay that I am working on about possible dates for the pole shift.
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DATES FOR THE POLE SHIFT

Introduction

The Zetas (extraterrestrials from a planet in the star system Zeta Reticuli), channeled by the human Nancy Lieder, have given many tidbits of information about the predicted pole shift of the Earth during the flyby of Planet X.  They have declined to specify a date, however, because they do not want to provide assistance to those who oppose their work, such as members of the cover-up operation that has been active for many decades.  Nevertheless, they have provided a few clues as to possible time frames.  This essay presents those clues and discusses some possible interpretations of them.

Another reason not to specify a date is that the expected effects of the flyby have been delayed and reduced significantly from what the Zetas predicted years ago.  Evidently, they do not control the situation, and even their predictions are subject to uncertainty due to unforeseen developments.

The main source reference for this essay is the twelve-page document "Summary of Zetatalk Clues" which is available at  http://www.pssurvival.com/PS/2-Pole_Shift/2-Summary_of_Zetatalk_Clues_Used_to_Discover_the_PS_Date_2010.pdf.  It will be referred to as "Clues" in citations below.

The Zetas have also specified a sequence of situations that will precede the pole shift during a period of 49 days.  Those situations, and their durations, are:
* 9 days  Severe Wobble
* 4.5 days  static Lean to the Left
* 2.5 days  progression toward 3 Days of Darkness.
* 3 Days of Darkness
* 6 days of Sunrise West
* 18 days of Slowing Rotation
* 6 (5.9) days of Rotation Stoppage
The pole shift then occurs on day 50.  (From http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta582.htm)

Further details, and a slight variation about the duration of the last weeks, is given in  "ZetaTalk: Last Weeks Countdown" at http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta582.htm.
Here is a brief extract:

[start extract]
What starts the process of the last weeks, with all their extreme gyrations, is a threshold being crossed. The dithering we have been describing - where Planet X, the Earth and the other planets caught in the cup (Dark Twin and Venus) are all bouncing around, reacting to movement in another, to crowding of magnetons or other particles - reaches an explosive point. During this time Planet X moves to the right as far as possible, to evade the ever increasing particle crowding, but is still outbound, steadily. Thus, visibility is enhanced, and Second Sun sightings are common. This is the start of the 7.3 week period we described, where it would be unmistakably visible to all on Earth. [my emphasis]

Then, 7.3 times 7 is 51 days, not 49.  Perhaps the start of the time of visibility starts two days before the 9 days of severe wobble begin.  That ambiguity is not important in this case, but it is an example of interpretations by the team of humans involved in Zetatalk material being inaccurate or even incorrect.
[end extract]

Section 1 - Relation To The Sun's Magnetic Trimesters

According to the Zetas, the Sun has three magnetic "arms" that the Earth encounters during the time intervals of  1) January, February, March, and April,  2) May, June, July, and August,  and 3) September, October, November, and December.  (http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tworx612.htm)

Note that although the number of months is the same in the three intervals, the number of days varies slightly.  The number of days in those intervals, according to the Gregorian calendar for a non-leap year, are: 1) 120,  2) 123,  and 3) 122.  So, if the magnetic trimesters are of equal duration, then the end dates can vary by two days around some common date in the last months of the intervals.

Note also that magnetic fields do not have sharp boundaries (except possibly at boundaries of the medium in which they occur, but that is not the case in interplanetary space where the magnetic arms are located), and so the beginning and end locations of the Sun's magnetic arms are probably not delimited by abrupt physical discontinuities.  The magnetic field strength that the Earth encounters almost certainly varies smoothly in waves, although those waves might not be precisely the familiar sine or cosine waves of trigonometry (appropriately shifted).

The only unambiguous clues that the Zetas have provided are the following.
1) The pole shift will occur at the end of a magnetic trimester.  (Clues page 2)
2) The last weeks - 3 days of darkness and all - will all occur within a magnetic trimester.  (Clues page 2)
3) "The Christmas Hammer has a relationship to the Magnetic Trimesters described by the Zetas because one of the trimesters ends on December 17"   and  "ZetaTalk Explanation 11/26/2011: The Christmas Hammer is caused in great part by the December switch in Magnetic Trimester which occurs at approximately December 17 on the Earth calendar."  (http://www.zetatalk5.com/newsletr/issue323.htm)

Counting back 122 days from December 17, the date of end of the second trimester would be August 17;  and counting forward 122 days from December 17 during a leap year, the date of the end of the first trimester would be April 17, provided that the trimesters are of equal duration.

Therefore, the pole shift can be expected to occur in April, August, or December of some year, not later than the 17th of each of those months.

Note, however, that "The Christmas Hammer was notable on December 26, 2004, when the 9.5 quake along the curve under Sumatra occurred, on December 19-22, 2007 when large black seismographs occurred at the same time each day, and on December 20-24, 2010 when hundreds of quakes above magnitude 4.7 occurred on the Bonin Arc off Japan."  (http://www.zetatalk5.com/ning/26no2011.htm)  This might indicate that the time of maximum tectonic movement could occur several days after the end of a magnetic trimester, but clue number two (above) contradicts that in the case of the pole shift, specifically.

The latest possible dates of the commencement of the "final weeks" of 49 days, counting back from the 17th of April, August, and December are:
1) February 27,
2) June 29, and
3) October 28.

Note that, by those dates, "the Planet X complex would be seen in the skies, undeniably" and the "wobble" of the axis of rotation of the Earth will have become severe.   The effects of the severe wobble are wild weather and a blending of the seasons (cold days in summer and hot days in winter).  Those effects are caused mainly by the surface of the Earth moving back and forth (north and south) under the atmosphere, which then produces apparent excessive swings of the jet stream in relation to that surface, plus further turbulence.
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The main reference, "Clues", interprets another statement by the Zetas to infer that the beginning of the 49-day period will occur at the time of a solar eclipse.  I do not agree.  The next section of my essay will address that situation.

Jimfarmer:
I have inserted the following three paragraphs into the Introduction of the partial essay in Reply #3 -- Jim.

Further details, and a slight variation about the duration of the last weeks, is given in  "ZetaTalk: Last Weeks Countdown" at http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta582.htm.
Here is a brief extract:

[start extract]
What starts the process of the last weeks, with all their extreme gyrations, is a threshold being crossed. The dithering we have been describing - where Planet X, the Earth and the other planets caught in the cup (Dark Twin and Venus) are all bouncing around, reacting to movement in another, to crowding of magnetons or other particles - reaches an explosive point. During this time Planet X moves to the right as far as possible, to evade the ever increasing particle crowding, but is still outbound, steadily. Thus, visibility is enhanced, and Second Sun sightings are common. This is the start of the 7.3 week period we described, where it would be unmistakably visible to all on Earth. [my emphasis]

Then, 7.3 times 7 is 51 days, not 49.  Perhaps the start of the time of visibility starts two days before the 9 days of severe wobble begin.  That ambiguity is not important in this case, but it is an example of interpretations by the team of humans involved in Zetatalk material being inaccurate or even incorrect.
[end extract]

Jimfarmer:
Here is section 2 of the essay on DATES FOR THE POLE SHIFT.  It refers to distances from Earth to Planet X, which is not what I originally intended to include.  So. further analysis  of dates will be in section 3.

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Section 2 - Distances

The following statement occurs in http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword03y.htm :

"When one is looking toward Orion, at this time [when Planet X crosses the orbital plane of the Earth], from above the Earth's orbital plane, the perspective human astronomers prefer, the Sun will be to the right. The Earth, Sun, and [Planet X] will thus form a triangle in the Earth's orbital plane with a 23 degree angle at the Earth, an 18 degree angle at the Sun, and a 139 degree angle at [Planet X]. It is at this point, essentially, that [Planet X] is closest to the Earth, as with the angle of entry into the Earth's orbital plane being 32 degrees at this point, [Planet X] essentially dives up through the earth's orbital plane and quickly passes on. "

The distance from Earth to the Sun varies between 91.3 and 94.4 million miles, and the average is 93.0 million miles.  Using that average distance and the Sine Law of Trigonometry, the distance from Earth to Planet X at the time that PX crosses the orbital plane of the Earth can be calculated to be 43.8 million miles.  That, then, would be the closest that PX comes to Earth, except for the effects described in the following statement from http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/poleshft/miked008.htm :

" Like bodies on the dance floor, and as Velikovsky has pointed out in his record of ancient astronomical observations, planets can get disturbed from their orbit by the close passages of an object as large as another planet, though they then return to the orbit appropriate for their size and composition, within the solar system. Thus, where the this triangle represents an analysis to aid in determining the approach, it does not represent, completely, the position of the passing bodies during the actual passage. They draw near each other, during the approach, where the north end of the 12th Planet is pulling toward the south end of the Earth. At this time, as the 12th Planet is moving, it does the moving, the pulling toward. The shift itself is preceded by a jerking away of the Earth from the 12th Planet, the north end tipping up but also the Earth sliding sideways, a bit. Then, as the south pole pulls up and toward the passing 12th Planet's north pole, there is a pulling back, toward the 12th Planet. As friction in space is not a factor, these motions do not influence those on the surface of Earth. It is the shift that is the disruption, not the movement in space. In the end, the Earth is essentially in the same place, vis a vis the Sun, when the passage has completed, but during these attraction and repulsion movements, the passage has been closer than would be presumed from the approach of the 12th Planet."

Independent of the "jiggling" of the planets during close approach, the range of possible variations in the calculated distance of 43.8 million miles between Earth and Planet X can be determined by allowing the relevant angles to change by plus or minus 0.5 degrees (since the Zeta's values are written to the units position only) and by using the maximum and minimum distances of the Earth from the Sun.  These extreme values for the distance from Earth to Planet X at the time of PX's passage through the Earth's orbital plane are:
* 46.1 million miles maximum, and
* 41.4 million miles minimum.
The average of those two values is 43.75,  so we can use 43.8 as a good estimate, plus or minus 2.4.

Now, the Zetas have said many times that Planet X's closest approach to the Earth will be 14,000,000 miles.  But, from http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta271.htm :
" The 14 million miles referred to as the closest point during the Pole Shift includes those parts of the complex that would be considered devastating to the Earth, such as moon swirls and large debris. We have stated that the moons themselves will be at all times within 5 million miles of Planet X, but large trash in the tail also pulls toward Earth, but this will come no closer than 14 million miles."

However, from "The ZetaTalk Newsletter Issue 326, Sunday December 30, 2012"  at  http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue326.htm :
" We have stated that Planet X comes close, then retreats, then comes close again as the Last Weeks approach. ... Then during the last week, the week of rotation stoppage, the Earth is drawn 30 million miles closer to Planet X, so the Planet X complex appears huge in the skies. The two planets remain at a distance of 14 million miles, however, with the large moons in the Moon Swirls close to Planet X at all times, within 5 million miles. Nevertheless, debris and red dust land on the Earth during this time."

The Internet site http://www.mathopenref.com/subtend.html gives the angle subtended by the Sun, as seen from the Earth, as 0.52 degrees; and the angle subtended by the moon as 0.54 degrees.  Now, if Planet X's closest approach to the Earth will be 14,000,000 miles, and if PX's diameter is 4 times the diameter of the Earth (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta217.htm), which is 7926 miles (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_diameter_of_the_Earth),  then, using tangent(angle) = 4x7926/14000000, I calculate the angle subtended by PX at that time to be 0.130 degrees.  Therefore, PX will appear to be one fourth of the size (diameter) of the moon at that time.  The ball of dust around it might make it appear to be much larger, however.
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