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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2018, 05:15:05 AM »
Ilinda's very informative link expires tonight, so am posting a few screenshots summarizing the info, below. 

Will add this first:

Most menopausal women probably already know that the natural progesterone in wild yam (dioscorea) is generally regarded as safe to take.  They may not know about plant based estrogen though, which is entirely different from other estrogen sources in HRT that are regarded as being unsafe to take.

The three forms of estrogen:

Estriol: plant based, generally regarded as safe, available OTC as lotion or transdermal drops

Estrone: estrogen extracted from the urine of mares

Estradiol: synthetic estrogen analog not regarded as being safe.

And regarding fertility issues, one can also:

1. Get a Catholic book on rhythm, regardless of one's religious orientation, to learn that culture's millennia-old understanding of how the fertility cycle works, and do the opposite of the birth control advice.

2. Stop using lotion, which usually contains alcohol and other chemicals that are detrimental to sperm.  Plant-based oils may be fine.

3. Be aware of which direction the uterus tilts, and select a position conducive to allowing sperm to burrow in, even if pillows are needed.  It's also helpful to remain lying in place an hour afterward.

4. Learn to feel the ovulation cramp each month for a better understanding of one's exact ovulation timetable, as it differs for each person.

5. Time intercourse for a day or two ahead of the expected ovulation date, rather than too close to time, so sperm can be in place before the egg is shed.
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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2018, 10:41:44 AM »
Excellent, RR.

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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #77 on: January 02, 2019, 01:56:24 PM »
Because so many states in the U.S., and some other countries, are decriminalizing the "Sacred Plant" (Medical Marijuana) now for use in medical issues, it is probably OK to post this. 

The following screen shots were taken from one of the episodes on The Sacred Plant.  These shots were only on screen for a second or two, so I had to back up several times before pausing it at the right spot.  Am posting two shots, as one of them shows the title, whereas the other shows more of what would be seen as one scrolls down.  There is much more than is shown, but that's all that was shown to the audience.

It is obvious that there are many aspects to this plant, and many macromolecules contained therein, plus many uses for them.  But as one researcher has said, it is still better, where possible, to use the whole plant, as you get the "entourage effect" by using the whole plant.


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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #78 on: January 03, 2019, 05:31:49 AM »
Here's what the PFAF database has to add:

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Edible Uses

Edible Parts: Leaves;  Oil;  Seed.
Edible Uses: Oil.

Seed - raw or cooked. It can be parched and eaten as a condiment or made into cakes and fried[2, 85, 177, 183]. The seed is quite tasty, but it is very difficult to separate from the husk. We have tried grinding the seed, husk and all, and eating it this way, but it does then have a very gritty texture[K]. The seed contains about 27.1% protein, 25.6% fat, 7.4% carbohydrate, 6.1% ash[179]. A nutritional analysis is available calculated on a zero moisture basis[218]. A highly nutritious edible oil, rich in essential fatty acids, is obtained from the seed[105, 183]. Leaves. Used in soups[269]. The leaves contain 0.215% carotene[179].

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Composition
Figures in grams (g) or miligrams (mg) per 100g of food.    
Seed (Dry weight)    

    487 Calories per 100g
    Water : 0%
    Protein: 31.4g; Fat: 29.6g; Carbohydrate: 31.9g; Fibre: 23.5g; Ash: 7.1g;
    Minerals - Calcium: 139mg; Phosphorus: 1123mg; Iron: 13.9mg; Magnesium: 0mg; Sodium: 0mg; Potassium: 0mg; Zinc: 0mg;
    Vitamins - A: 518mg; Thiamine (B1): 0.37mg; Riboflavin (B2): 0.2mg; Niacin: 2.43mg; B6: 0mg; C: 0mg;

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Medicinal Uses

Analgesic;  Anodyne;  Anthelmintic;  Antianxiety;  Antibacterial;  Anticonvulsant;  Antiemetic;  Antiperiodic; 
Antirheumatic;  Antispasmodic;  Cancer;  Cholagogue;  Demulcent;  Diuretic;  Emmenagogue; 
Emollient;  Febrifuge;  Hypnotic;  Laxative;  Narcotic;  Ophthalmic;  Sedative; 
Tonic.

https://pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Cannabis+sativa


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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #79 on: January 03, 2019, 12:48:02 PM »
No wonder TPTB wanted it to remain illegal for so long.

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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #80 on: January 03, 2019, 02:27:16 PM »
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Re: morgellons
« Reply #81 on: November 27, 2019, 08:58:43 AM »
See
http://www.morgellonsexposed.com/  which has many photos and results of tests.
Tony Pantalleresco has loads of vids on how to deal with morgellons.
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Re: turpentine
« Reply #82 on: November 27, 2019, 09:21:24 AM »
natural turpentine oil
Been researching turpentine; many sources point to this interview with Dr. Jennifer Daniels at Extreme Health Radio.
What was so important about this interview for me was that i learned that the dose of turpentine i had tried was too low.
I link above to when (in this interview) Dr. Daniels explains that the dose is one whole tea spoon of turpentine dissolved in three sugar cubes [so one ingests 3 cubes full of turpentine]. This was about four whole droppers full for the small bottle i have, whereas i had tried it two or three times before using only one sugar cube full. Apparently that dose is just too low to accomplish anything. [Indeed, the maximum dose would be three whole tea spoons and 6 starts getting really dangerous. But, quite frankly, i doubt many people ever tried so much since the taste is quite strong and quite bad.]

Also in this interview Dr. Daniels explains that turpentine will cure countless ailments and that selling it as a cure for candida was simply a marketing issue.
Anyway, am going to be trying this later today. [Right now i'm getting ready for a mini beet protocol and i'll take the cubes before i go to bed because i'm going to do an enema tomorrow morning since Dr. Daniels warns that parasites will be expelled and one should only do this protocol if one has three bowel movements a day.]
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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2019, 11:03:10 AM »
Socrates, really interesting and informative posts,
Thank you,
Barb T.

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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2019, 11:11:38 AM »
Products which contain plant sterols, stanols help reduce the bad cholesterol and the high triglycerides...

There are several products on the market. Plant sterols, niacin, cayenne. Some contain an ayurvedic ingredient or two, Indian Gooseberry, and Guggul... Care needs to be taken if using Indian Gooseberry.... google it, more on it later.

I am choosing a product which has niacin, garlic, cayenne, 400 mg of a plant sterol complex and that's it. has high user reviews. Nearly 5, out of 1-5 ratings.

The NIH - National Institute of Health has articles about natural ways to reduce cholesterol and high triglycerides without statin drugs.  I may start a separate topic on this. - Barb T.


SEE https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19735187

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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #85 on: February 21, 2020, 12:17:22 PM »
Because vitamin B12 is a natural product, this seems like a good place for the following warning; although it's not the last word on vitamins or supplements in general, it might be wise to first learn your current B12 levels before assuming you need more.  (I personally think taking supplements that are manufactured in a lab might be less valuable than getting those vitamins and minerals from their original sources.)


https://www.yahoo.com/news/high-levels-b12-increased-risk-142800868.html
High Levels of B12 Were Associated with an Increased Risk of Early Death in a New Study

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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #86 on: February 21, 2020, 12:20:30 PM »
ilinda, thanks for posting about that.

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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #87 on: February 21, 2020, 05:00:39 PM »
In my opinion, the correlation is questionable.

Here's the direct link to the Dutch study, with a need to click the .pdf in the lower right-hand corner of this page:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2758742

I noted that the opening statement said that even after the study was completed, there only appeared to be a possible correlation between excess plasma B-12 and deaths of 3 clinical sub-populations:

1. the elderly

2. those in kidney failure

3. patients hospitalized for another condition serious enough to be admitted into care

So this is not extrapolatable to the general population.

The study also does not establish causality.  All three of those sub-populations were arguably already approaching the end of their lifespan, or in an acute or protracted health crisis, so it would be difficult to establish that plasma rich in B-12 was the culprit or exacerbated a medical condition or caused a medical condition in any way. 

It simply has established the presence of B12-rich plasma at or near the time of death of these specific sub-populations. 

In addition, the authors of the study acknowledge (toward the bottom) financial connections to the pharmaceutical industry, which suggests an ulterior motivation for the study, and further suggests a bias at the outset against supplements and in favor of drugs.

Watch for a well-designed competing clinical trial in the near future to supercede this study by asking some obvious questions:

1. Does the physiology of death and dying in and of itself entail a plasma concentration  / lack of renal clearance of B12?

(We already know that advanced kidney failure causes a lack of clearance of numerous substances)

2. How much do we really know about the physiology of death and dying at the microbiological level? 

3. Do substances that we depend upon for our health in life play more than one role in the body near the time of death or under acute stress?  Does B12 play a special role at the end of life that has yet to be defined?

4. Does being bed-fast cause B12 and other substances to pool in plasma rather than being cleared efficiently?  What other substances might also be affected besides B12?  Is B12, being water-soluble, not being cleared because urine itself is not being cleared?

Well-designed studies posted by NIH/NCBI have already demonstrated that populations with aging-related disabilities tend to be locked into a vicious cycle due to a sub-clinical malnourishment of micronutrients.  It has been demonstrated that meaningful data cannot be extracted from clinical trials using aging populations without first assessing their total nutritional status, with particular attention to each patient's micro-nutrient baseline.  Each study would then need to correct any nutritional deficiencies first, before attempting to gather further data, lest confounding variables be introduced.

Sorry to be so negative, but JAMA should be ashamed of publishing this  ::)

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Re: Natural products that may be very valuable in the future times
« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2020, 10:22:39 AM »
Don't feel you were negative--you're just questioning the brief summarization of a very complex subject.  The two most important aspects of this issue (to me) are:  1) were those who died taking supplemental B12, or were those elevated B12 levels a result of their own physiology?; and
2) what were a all of the other "abnormal" aspects or levels of the various vitamins and/or minerals of each of the deceased?

And of course in the abbreviated version I read, there was NO mention of the ties of the authros to BigPharma!  That to me is always a ref flag.

 

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