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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2017, 11:05:15 PM »
As many of you know, HARVEY made landfall in Rockport, TX as a Cat 4.

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2017, 11:10:54 PM »
video and news -

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/harvey-landfall/index.html

Houston area copes with flooding as Harvey delivers pounding rainfall

By Ray Sanchez, Nicole Chavez, Steve Almasy and Joe Sterling, CNN
Updated 1:25 AM ET, Sun August 27, 2017

A burnt out house that caught fire after Hurricane Harvey hit Corpus Christi, Texas is seen on August 26, 2017.  Hurricane Harvey hit the Texas coast with forecasters saying its possible for up to 3 feet of rain and 125 mph winds.
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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2017, 11:28:04 PM »
Aftermath of Cat 4 Hurricane HARVEY

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2017, 12:56:57 PM »
Yowbarb Note - It is not fun what Houstonians are going through right now. People wading in waist-deep water, pulling their little kids and a few belongings, in the rain. Where they are going to, who knows... Overnight as the outer bands of Tropical Storm HARVEY hit Houston over 1,000 people were rescued from rising water. It will take awhile to figure out how many perished in Rockport, TX where Cat 4 HARVEY made landfall. There was an evac order but some stayed. They were warned no one will be able to go out in what is to come, to rescue them. Today, crews going door to door to help survivors and collect dead bodies...
I know national guard is there somewhere...FEMA said they would be there a long time helping... The Mayor of Houston said no way could they put 6 million people on the road, that is why he died not order mandatory evacuation...
One thing is sure, flooding is still going on. Rain has not stopped except intermittently, water is rising...This CNN news update is from ten min ago:
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https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-flooding

Catastrophic, Historic Flooding Happening Now in Houston; Governor Activates 3,000 Federal and State Guard Members
By Pam Wright
Aug 27 2017 03:30 PM EDT
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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has activated 3,000 national and state guard members after Harvey dumped more than two feet of rain on Houston metro, causing historic and catastrophic flooding from rainfall that has been characterized by the National Weather Service as "beyond anything experienced before."

Thousands of homes continue to take on water and hundreds of people remain trapped and stranded in rising floodwaters across the Houston area. More than 1,000 people have been rescued so far and the death toll from Harvey rose to three.

“There is life-threatening, catastrophic flooding happening now in Southeast Harris County,” Jeff Lindner of the Harris County Flood Control District told The Weather Channel.

Two people have died in the Houston area in flood-related deaths as torrential rain continues to fall, according to the National Weather Service.

Dr. Greg Postel, meteorologist and hurricane specialist for The Weather Channel, said the flooding unfolding in the Houston area "could be the worst flooding disaster in U.S. history;" and Gov. Abbott, appearing on Fox News Sunday, said: "We're measuring rain these days not in inches but in feet."

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner said during a Sunday morning press conference that the city has received more than 2000 emergency calls and urged people to "remain calm, remain patient." He noted that most thoroughfares are impassable and said he's ordered neighborhoods to open libraries and multi-service centers to offer "lilypad" safe havens for people who cannot flee the city because of flooded roads.

"I don't care if there is no food or water there, I just need to have a safe place for people to go," he said.

With nearly 9 million people under flash-flood warnings, rescuers say they've received too many calls to respond to each one and have had to prioritize life-and-death situations, the AP reports.

When reporters asked why no evacuations were ordered despite days of warnings from the National Weather Service, Turner said it would have been "too dangerous" to have millions of residents on the road, noting that "if you think the situation right now is bad and you give an order to evacuate, you are creating a nightmare."

"The best place is for people to remain in their homes," he said.

(MORE: Why Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner Didn't Order Evacuations Before Harvey's Flooding Rains Arrived)
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-why-evacuations-not-ordered-in-houston

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The mayor and Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez urged people to only use 911 in dire emergencies, noting that dispatchers were struggling to keep up with the calls.
"Difficult to get to everyone right away," Gonzalez tweeted. "Hang tight."

Residents have been forced to climb into their attics to escape rising water, KTRK-TV reports, and Gonzalez noted that a family of 10 were rescued from an attic early Sunday by the mayor pro tem of South Houston.

The National Weather Service is warning people to seek shelter on their roofs rather than in attics to avoid becoming trapped by rushing water.


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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2017, 01:04:41 PM »
22 min ago.
Video on this page:
  http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/harvey-landfall/index.html
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Officials warn deluged Houston could see 4-5 more days of rain

By Ralph Ellis, Ray Sanchez, Nicole Chavez and Joe Sterling, CNN
Updated 3:37 PM ET, Sun August 27, 2017

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2017, 03:05:54 PM »
Barb, I clicked on one of your news video links, which said that the most badly affected parts of the greater Houston area received 27" of rain and may be expecting 20 more inches ahead.

Very difficult to imagine...

Thanks for keeping us so well informed!

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2017, 04:31:08 PM »
Barb, I clicked on one of your news video links, which said that the most badly affected parts of the greater Houston area received 27" of rain and may be expecting 20 more inches ahead.

Very difficult to imagine...

Thanks for keeping us so well informed!

R.R. that's right! I heard it but was in a hurry and didn't post. 27" as of a few hours ago.
I think the danger of this situation has been vastly underestimated...

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2017, 04:34:14 PM »
If I were living in that area (and able to get out ahead of time) I would have left when HARVEY became a Cat 1 storm. The probably forecast was for it to hit TX ..a few days ago...
I do know it is not always so easy to get out and certainly not unless thousands of buses are made available.
lots of planning would have had to be done to find places to put all the evacuees too. I do know evacuees from Rockport were successfully sheltered farther north...
If I were in charge I would have had navy vessels picking up people and getting them out of the area... Rockport certainly needed help getting the last few out. They will find more bodies there than they thought, IMHO.
Well I know the rescue services, first responders, Army Guard and by now some Federal people working their brains out to try and help. Bless 'em all...
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Video on page: Drone footage shows Harvey's destruction 00:45  5:59 PM ET, Sun August 27, 2017

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/texas-harvey-latest/?lf-content=210307304:lb-post-5b6afbfb98b7fec5a91ef6345636625f@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink

Harvey wallops Texas: Live updates
By Nicole Chavez, Ralph Ellis, Pete Burn and Emanuella Grinberg, CNN
Updated 5:59 PM ET, Sun August 27, 2017
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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2017, 05:05:23 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/texas-harvey-latest/?lf-content=210307304:lb-post-5b6afbfb98b7fec5a91ef6345636625f@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink

...Texas governor Greg Abbott told CBS he was “not capable at this time of confirming” the number of fatalities caused by the hurricane.

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2017, 08:50:18 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/harvey-landfall/index.html?adkey=bn

Houston (CNN)Harvey is no longer a hurricane, but life-threatening flooding continued in and around Houston on Sunday night as citizens with boats assisted authorities in search and rescue efforts.

Flooding from Tropical Storm Harvey is overburdening resources in the country's fourth-largest city, prompting authorities to call on volunteers with watercraft for help in rescuing those trapped in homes and buildings.
An immediate respite from Harvey's wrath seems unlikely to come. The National Weather Service calls the flooding "unprecedented," and warns things may become more dire if a forecasted record-breaking 50 inches of rain does fall on parts of Texas in coming days. In anticipation of a worsening situation, Dallas is turning its main convention center into a "mega-shelter" that can host 5,000 evacuees.
The rainfall threatens to exacerbate an already dangerous situation, as Harvey's rains have left many east Texas rivers and bayous swollen to their banks or beyond... [continues]
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/25/hurricane-harvey-north-texans-can-help

Hurricane Harvey: How North Texans can help

This post will be updated throughout as new information becomes available.
Some Harvey evacuees have come to Dallas-Fort Worth to avoid the damage and danger of the storms.
Here's how North Texans can help, with shelter, supplies and volunteer efforts:

Volunteer:
CITY OF DALLAS: Volunteers may be needed to help evacuees at designated recreation centers. Volunteers can register online.  http://www.voly.org/join/index.html

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2017, 02:42:05 PM »
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If I were in charge I would have had navy vessels picking up people and getting them out of the area...

Great idea Barb, either that or Coast Guard!

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« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2017, 08:46:44 PM »
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If I were in charge I would have had navy vessels picking up people and getting them out of the area...

Great idea Barb, either that or Coast Guard!

Ships do not attempt to dock in rough seas, they would smash against the dock and bob up and down, making boarding impossible.  I was in a hotel with view of a harbor during a hurricane many years ago, and all ships had gone out to sea.

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2017, 08:55:14 PM »
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If I were in charge I would have had navy vessels picking up people and getting them out of the area...

Great idea Barb, either that or Coast Guard!

Ships do not attempt to dock in rough seas, they would smash against the dock and bob up and down, making boarding impossible.  I was in a hotel with view of a harbor during a hurricane many years ago, and all ships had gone out to sea.
Well, Jimfarmer, that is true. I suppose I was thinking of the timing being before it got very rough... It would have taken some pretty good predicting to know exactly when...

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« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2017, 09:00:25 PM »
RE Tropical Storm HARVEY in TX:
The pressure of TS Harvey dropped down to 997 millobars.
Wed 7 AM is when the center of circulation will be closest to Houston... 39-73 mph winds.
Wed PM: This forecast track has the center of circulation over to the Louisiana line, by then.
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http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/031610.shtml?cone#contents   

Coastal Watches/Warnings and Forecast Cone for Storm Center

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Re: Southwest Tornadoes and Hurricanes
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2017, 10:26:44 PM »
Video, over two hours long, Fox News, about flood rescues by volunteer and govt personnel such as the Coast Guard. Video of rescues from Monday.
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HAPPENING NOW: Rescues are still underway in parts of Texas. Monday, 28 August 2017

https://youtu.be/605LkLK0XS0

Published on Aug 28, 2017
HAPPENING NOW: Rescues are still underway in parts of Texas, after Hurricane Harvey caused flooding that has stranded many.
Monday, 28 August 2017

 

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