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Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2019, 12:05:22 PM »
RE NTM bacteria from water, I do not know if it is spread in rural sources, like animal watering troughs, irrigation, probably, since it is a worldwide health problem

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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2019, 12:12:40 PM »
Again, I do recommend a person with any breathing difficulty have 2-3 air filters in their home, city or country.

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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2019, 08:47:43 PM »
RE NTM bacteria from water, I do not know if it is spread in rural sources, like animal watering troughs, irrigation, probably, since it is a worldwide health problem
Wow, it's a worldwide problem, I some of us have never heard of it!  Thanks for educating.

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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2019, 08:54:39 PM »
ilinda I hope you did not mind the humongous font,  Haha,  ;D
Seemed to help me keep track of the questions and answers better. I hope it helps someone.
Thanks so much for all the ideas.
I edited and re edited and kept adding, it is a long post.

There are foods which I used to consume frequently such as the mint, parsley, mint teas, etc. which you mentioned, which I rarely have any more. I need to do a few simple things to help myself more...
It looks like you're doing all the right things (maybe getting back to mint as well) and when that nearby construction is finished, maybe you can get back to your more normal situation. 

One BTW relates to the herb mullein.  That is one herb that asthmatics and especially COPD patients might want around.  It is a great expectorant, and it is so good at bringing up mucous from the lungs, I would suggest nobody take it unless they are coughing up copious lung mucous.  It is made into a decoction (boiled for 30 minutes) and then drunk as a tea.  Usually all it takes is one cup and you will soon be getting rid of what has settled in the lung.

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Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2019, 09:37:48 PM »
RE NTM bacteria from water, I do not know if it is spread in rural sources, like animal watering troughs, irrigation, probably, since it is a worldwide health problem
Wow, it's a worldwide problem, I some of us have never heard of it!  Thanks for educating.

ilinda I had never heard of NTM or mycobacteria until a few weeks ago. I was coughing so much and do get a bit of rust colored or pinkish, on and off...and that goes back years. Lung cancer had already been ruled out (I had contrast dye CT scans etc.)
So recently, I began to think about testing for TB.

Was googling and that is when I discovered that there is another condition similar to TB called Non Tuberculosis Mycobacteria (infection) also found out that the bacteria which causes tuberculosis is also a mycobacteria.

I basically have had all the symptoms of NTM for awhile now.
Now that I am past the 10th day on the Prednisone (a strong med) symptoms are falling away (or masked) but I still want to test for NTM. I do feel I probably have had this a couple-three times before.
It is an under-diagnosed and common infectious disease.
Here in this article, they discuss risks, but I'd bet that people of all ages and types get this.

But first, this is the latest article I found so far and discusses the fact that there is supposed to be a new and improved "assay" test for NTM, the sample for which would be sputum or from a bronchoscopy. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30711153


https://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/nontuberculosis-mycobacteria/ntm-symptoms-causes-risks.html

What Are Risk Factors for NTM Lung Disease?
•   Age: NTM lung disease is more common in older people.
•   Lung disease: Many people with NTM lung disease have another underlying lung problem like COPD, bronchiectasis, or lung damage due to previous infections such as tuberculosis.
•   Slender Caucasian women: Some women appear to have an increased risk of developing NTM disease. These women share physical features like being tall and slender, having a curved spine, abnormalities of the breastbone, and mitral valve prolapse.
•   Weak immune system: Illnesses that affect the immune system, like Sjogren’s disease and rheumatoid arthritis, may increase the risk of NTM infection. Also, certain drugs that can weaken the immune system, such as prednisone and other steroids, can increase the risk of NTM infection.
•   Esophageal disorders: Acid reflux (GERD) and other disorders of the esophagus can increase the risk of NTM lung disease due to spillage of gastric contents into the lung.
•   Environment: Exposure to NTM in our environment can result in infection. High-risk sources include indoor hot tubs and pools and exposure to soil.
When to See Your Doctor
If you have a persistent cough, particularly if you also have fatigue, night sweats, shortness of breath or weight loss, you should see your doctor immediately. If your primary care provider cannot help your chronic cough, you might need to see a lung specialist.
Diagnosing and Treating NTM Pulmonary Disease
Diagnosis of NTM lung disease is often delayed because the symptoms are similar to other lung diseases like bronchiectasis, COPD or bronchitis. However, once NTM infection is suspected, diagnosis is not difficult. When a specimen is sent to the lab, it can easily be identified whether or not the person has NTM and what species is causing the disease. This will influence the type of treatment you receive.

•   Learn about Nontuberculous Mycobacteria (NTM) (American Lung Association)
•   Nontuberculous Mycobacteria (NTM) (National Jewish Health)



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Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2019, 12:04:10 AM »
Yowbarb Note: While it is very important to know if one has asthma, COPD, emphysema whatever condition and while it is very important to stay safe by properly managing these conditions, we must not forget that healing is often in our own hands our own choices. I know a lot of my posts do not sound like that, because when one is in a flare up it is dangerous and the focus is on meds, etc. because one has to be careful. But underlying all my posts is the belief we all share, there are other methods and we need to do something other than standard medicine and actually try to get better...

SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF is the name of this Board, after all.   ;D     ;D      ;D

Posting here something I randomly found, part of Chinese medicine, I am not supposed to plug specific products or whatever but here goes. I just found this online a couple minutes ago. Videos, testimonials on the page, photos of the patients and practitioners, fascinating! :) There is a search link to find a practitioner of the Wei method in your area., lots of pics of the practitioners and where they are.
I hope this helps someone...
Many Blessings.


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Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2019, 12:06:52 AM »
note from Yowbarb:
A bit of info regarding the Wei Institute, finding out it is a method used all over the US and Internationally.
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Our Approach
Overview

At Wei Institute, we employ Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and a holistic approach to treat chronic lung diseases.

We aim to enhance the biological activities associated with lung structure regeneration and reduce the activities associated with elastin degradation to assist with lung damage repair and the reversal of lung tissue degeneration process.

https://weiinstitute.org/locations/    LOCATIONS

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« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2019, 12:10:45 AM »
Oriental medicine like Chinese Medicine and Ayurvedic medicine
We have to keep trying...

These are things to look into, for sure...

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« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2019, 06:34:39 AM »
ilinda I hope you did not mind the humongous font,  Haha,  ;D
Seemed to help me keep track of the questions and answers better. I hope it helps someone.
Thanks so much for all the ideas.
I edited and re edited and kept adding, it is a long post.

There are foods which I used to consume frequently such as the mint, parsley, mint teas, etc. which you mentioned, which I rarely have any more. I need to do a few simple things to help myself more...
It looks like you're doing all the right things (maybe getting back to mint as well) and when that nearby construction is finished, maybe you can get back to your more normal situation. 

One BTW relates to the herb mullein.  That is one herb that asthmatics and especially COPD patients might want around.  It is a great expectorant, and it is so good at bringing up mucous from the lungs, I would suggest nobody take it unless they are coughing up copious lung mucous.  It is made into a decoction (boiled for 30 minutes) and then drunk as a tea.  Usually all it takes is one cup and you will soon be getting rid of what has settled in the lung.

Mullein is also known as verbascum, and is one of the loveliest flowers in the garden, though it has trouble in our wet climate here.  Aren't the leaves the part used as an expectorant?


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Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2019, 01:05:17 PM »
R.R. thanks for your post, I had forgot to look into the Mullein,
which ilinda had posted about...
This article mentions, the Creek Indians made a decoction of the roots for cough...
A couple of excerpts are copied below. Mullein has other uses, if there is not a topic on Mullein yet, we will start one...


https://www.motherearthliving.com/plant-profile/herb-to-know-mullein-verbascum-thapsus

Traditional and Modern Uses
Mullein tea is a traditional treatment for respiratory problems, such as chest colds, bronchitis and asthma. Mullein leaf tea is slightly bitter; a tea of the flowers is sweeter. Both the leaves and flowers contain mucilage, which is soothing to irritated membranes, and saponins, which make coughs more productive. Research has shown that the herb has strong anti-inflammatory activity, and lab studies suggest that mullein flower infusions have antiviral properties, as well.

Many of mullein’s traditional medicinal uses were similar throughout the Old and New World, but whether European settlers learned to use the herb from Native Americans or vice versa is open to debate. Besides using mullein leaf and flower teas to treat respiratory problems, some Native Americans also used the plant’s roots. The Creek Indians drank a decoction of the roots for coughs; other tribes smoked the roots or dried leaves to treat asthma.

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« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2019, 01:06:48 PM »
ilinda I hope you did not mind the humongous font,  Haha,  ;D
Seemed to help me keep track of the questions and answers better. I hope it helps someone.
Thanks so much for all the ideas.
I edited and re edited and kept adding, it is a long post.

There are foods which I used to consume frequently such as the mint, parsley, mint teas, etc. which you mentioned, which I rarely have any more. I need to do a few simple things to help myself more...
It looks like you're doing all the right things (maybe getting back to mint as well) and when that nearby construction is finished, maybe you can get back to your more normal situation. 

One BTW relates to the herb mullein.  That is one herb that asthmatics and especially COPD patients might want around.  It is a great expectorant, and it is so good at bringing up mucous from the lungs, I would suggest nobody take it unless they are coughing up copious lung mucous.  It is made into a decoction (boiled for 30 minutes) and then drunk as a tea.  Usually all it takes is one cup and you will soon be getting rid of what has settled in the lung.

ilinda, belated reply to this post about Mullein. :)
I am looking into it.
Looking for a good decoction recipe...

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« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2019, 10:36:02 PM »
Just an Update:
Went to a really good, knowledgeable  Pulmonologist today. Only a few who I could go to based upon my insurance. I lucked out, actually I picked one who got good ratings online. He is known for being a good caring doctor.

First time being in the care of a Pulmonologist. diagnosed with COPD in 1998, emphysema about 2007.  (Quit smoking decades earlier) Took the last of my Prednisone, doc ordered lots of tests.
summer is my BEST season and maybe I have turned a corner...
So many people in worse shape than I am. I have retained 75% of lung function, doc told me today.  He said it could be worse...
So far do not need oxygen.  I am grateful that I feel just about normal today...

Guess what, remember I posted, I had wanted to ask the doc to screen me for NTM? Well the doc is an expert on that and routinely screens people for that.  NTM= Non Tuberculosis Mycobacteria. 
          ****One type of mycobacteria causes tuberculosis.
          ****Another mycobacteria causes the non tuberculosis Mycobacterial infection.

Since my coughing is pretty much gone after three rounds of Prednisone in a row (and several in the past few months) i do not know if i have that or not... We will see.

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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2019, 08:30:00 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-s-toxic-red-tide-stretches-residents-report-health-problems-n905336
As Florida's toxic red tide stretches on, residents report health problems
Doctors in southwest Florida say they've seen an increase in patients complaining of breathing problems.


This is one of many articles about Florida's "Red Tide" and how it can cause breathing problems in FL residents.  Makes one wonder how much of the COPD might be influenced by the Red Tide?

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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2019, 09:30:09 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-s-toxic-red-tide-stretches-residents-report-health-problems-n905336
As Florida's toxic red tide stretches on, residents report health problems
Doctors in southwest Florida say they've seen an increase in patients complaining of breathing problems.


This is one of many articles about Florida's "Red Tide" and how it can cause breathing problems in FL residents.  Makes one wonder how much of the COPD might be influenced by the Red Tide?


ilinda, you posted it!
Thank you so much!
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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2019, 09:36:42 PM »
I only recently heard of SALT THERAPY for breathing. It popped up randomly while on Facebook.
I am not plugging any particular company or product. This is an article that popped up when I was googling about COPD. This place is in Indonesia but there are probably closer places to go to, or systems you buy and use at home, I just don't know yet:
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http://www.balibetterbreathing.com/what-is-salt-therapy/ 

Salt therapy (Halotherapy) is a scientifically-proven treatment for respiratory conditions. Halotherapy is a natural, effective and safe method of treatment for various disease as well as good remedy for respiratory hygiene and wellness. It improves conditions of the lungs and skin, strengthens the protective functions by means of dry salt aerosol with controlled levels of its concentrations.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPELEOTHERAPY AND HALOTHERAPY
Speleotherapy is a therapeutic method that utilises the unique microclimate of underground salt caves and salt mines to alleviate the symptoms of several respiratory problems and skin conditions.

Halotherapy, otherwise known as Salt Therapy, uses modern technology ( HALOGENERATOR ) to reproduce the therapeutic conditions found in natural salt caves in a modern, spa-like room. Salt Therapy patients sit in comfortable chairs and listen to soothing music, while breathing in superfine particles of salt that cleanse the lungs of bacteria, irritants, and pollution; and reduce inflammation of the respiratory tract.

Halotherapy was invented in 1982 in Russia. Since then, thousands of patients have been successfully treated in Russia, Germany, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Canada, UK, Australia, USA, Ireland, UAE, and Indonesia.

Yet.. only Controlled Halotherapy is effective and safe!

Controlled Halotherapy developped by the Halomed Medical Head, prof. Alina V. Chervinskaya, enables to recreate optimal and safe aerosol parameters for a group of the salt room’ visitors due to the constant monitoring and options of selection and maintaining the optimal level of concentration of dry salt aerosol produced by halogenerators Halomed.

The word halotherapy comes from the Greek, halo, for salt. It is a modern holistic method that mimics the natural microclimate of salt mines.

This is achieved by the use of a special device – a Halogenerator, which grinds salt into a fine powder and then disperses dry salt aerosol into a room. It controls the concentration of aerosol and the size of salt particles.

Link to Halogenerator from Halomed

Halogenerators

Halomed Generator Basing on the many years experience Halomed presents the modern standards of the true effective halogenerators:

Sophisticated Halomed halogenerators for salt rooms use integrated solutions for generating right healthy salt aerosol and control of its quality, concentration and airflows distribution in the salt rooms.
The last generation of Halomed salt aerosol generators relies on hi tech feedback function to provide the necessary level of controlled concentration of dry salt aerosol (DSA) of the highest quality (respirable fraction from 0.5-5 microns) inside salt rooms.

For more than 20 years dry salt aerosol, administered in specially-designed salt (halo) chambers, has been used to treat upper and lower respiratory conditions such as cold and flu, allergy, asthma, bronchitis, cystic fibrosis, sinus infection, sinusitis, rhinitis, hay fever and emphysema.

In addition, the anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory properties of dry sodium chloride aerosol has been shown to effectively treat ear infections and conditions such as eczema, dermatitis and psoriasis

Halotherapy provides the additional benefit of treatment in controlled conditions. The temperature, humidity and sodium chloride flow are constantly monitored to give optimum effect. The client is able to relax in the Salt Room which offers a spa like atmosphere.

Dry sodium chloride aerosol containing particles of 1-5 microns in size are blown into this room by a halogenerator. In order to treat varying conditions, the rooms are saturated with dry sodium chloride aerosol at a mass concentration varying from 1-15 mg/m3 . Typically asthma treatment involves drugs which include steroids that may have harmful side effects. Salt therapy has no side effects or negative interaction with other medication.

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