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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #90 on: August 10, 2019, 01:08:31 PM »
"Any major city" is a good description of places where one would not want to be trapped.  Think of the times we occasionally visit a doctor, dentist, some required meeting, etc., and it can get scary.

After seeing one of the doomsday videos a few years ago, I decided never to ride an elevator again.   All it takes is 1 second for you to be trapped on whatever floor....

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #91 on: August 10, 2019, 02:09:46 PM »
Absolutely.

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2019, 12:06:55 AM »
'Course, I don't usually have a reason to be any place that has subways, elevators, etc.  :-X
R.R. that's a good thing.  :)

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2019, 12:21:12 AM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49309691

UK power cut: Andrea Leadsom launches government investigation

The government has launched an investigation into Friday's huge power cut which affected nearly one million people across England and Wales.

Business Secretary Andrea Leadsom said a committee will look at what happened.

Train passengers were stranded, traffic lights failed to work and thousands of homes were plunged into darkness during the blackout.

The investigation will consider whether the procedures followed by National Grid are fit for purpose.

Mrs Leadsom said the power outages "caused enormous disruption", adding: "National Grid must urgently review and report to Ofgem."

The Energy Emergencies Executive Committee, carrying out the inquiry, will also explore whether there were any technical problems, plus how well National Grid communicated about the incident and restored the problem.

Energy regulator Ofgem has already demanded an "urgent detailed report" into what went wrong and could take enforcement action, including a fine.

And the National Grid has promised it will "learn the lessons" - but added its systems were not to blame.

'We were stuck on a train with no food or toilets'
Why the power cut caused so much disruption
Major power failure affects homes and transport
The outage happened after problems at two power stations - the gas-fired station at Little Barford in Bedfordshire at 16:58 BST and then at Hornsea offshore wind farm two minutes later.

Blackouts were reported across the Midlands, the south east, south west, north west and north east of England, and Wales.

National Grid power was restored by 17:40 BST on Friday but there was a knock-on effect for some train services, which continued to be disrupted into Saturday.

National Grid's director of operations Duncan Burt said he did not believe that a cyber-attack or unpredictable wind power generation was to blame.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Saturday, Mr Burt acknowledged the "immense disruption" the blackout had caused.

He said the near-simultaneous loss of two generators was more than the grid was routinely prepared for, prompting automatic safety systems to shut off power to some places.

"We think that worked well; we think the safety protection systems across the industry, on generators and on the network, worked well to secure and keep the grid safe, to make sure that we preserved power to the vast proportion of the country," he said.

But he said the industry needed to examine whether these safety systems were set up correctly to have "minimal impact" on people's daily lives.

Shadow business and energy secretary Rebecca Long Bailey said the impact of the power cut was "unacceptable" at a time when National Grid reported £1.8bn in profits and increased dividends to shareholders.

Police were called to help travellers during the huge disruption on the railways on Friday, with delayed passengers stranded for hours.

Disruption continued into Saturday for some routes, with services to and from King's Cross station in London particularly badly hit.

Passenger Dayna McAlpine told BBC Radio 5 Live her train took nearly 13 hours to reach London King's Cross from Edinburgh - a journey which would normally take less than five hours.

"By hour seven things were starting to get pretty tense," she said. "People were threatening to self-evacuate off the train... Food ran out about five hours ago."

At the worst point of the power cut, about 500,000 people were affected in Western Power Distribution's area - including 44,500 customers in Wales - while 110,000 Northern Powergrid customers also lost power.

In London and south-east England, 300,000 people were affected, UK Power Networks said, and another 26,000 customers were without power in north-west England.

Northern Powergrid said the problems had affected Newcastle airport and city's metro system.

At Ipswich Hospital, a back-up generator which was supposed to supply power to outpatient areas did not work after the power cut, causing problems for 15 minutes before power was restored.

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #94 on: August 11, 2019, 12:35:07 AM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49309691 excerpts: Video at this link

National Grid's director of operations Duncan Burt said he did not believe that a cyber-attack or unpredictable wind power generation was to blame.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Saturday, Mr Burt acknowledged the "immense disruption" the blackout had caused.

He said the near-simultaneous loss of two generators was more than the grid was routinely prepared for, prompting automatic safety systems to shut off power to some places.

"We think that worked well; we think the safety protection systems across the industry, on generators and on the network, worked well to secure and keep the grid safe, to make sure that we preserved power to the vast proportion of the country," he said.

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #95 on: September 13, 2019, 04:33:15 PM »
GREAT interview from Rt.com (at least someone is trying to get the word out) about what is about to take place ..

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NEW: What’ll happen when superflare hits Earth
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Scientists fear that a super-massive solar flare could knock out Earth’s electrical grid within the next 100 years. Such an event would fry the Earth’s technology and plunge civilization into darkness. In August of 1859 such a “superflare” caused a power surge that melted the wires of telegraph centers all over the US. Rick Sanchez explains. Then geological and anthropological theorist Randall Carlson of Geocosmicrex.com shares his insights.
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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #96 on: September 21, 2019, 11:41:25 AM »
Four contiguous countries in Central America experienced a massive power outage this past week:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jsEnJiTBXU

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #97 on: October 08, 2019, 05:55:30 PM »
800,000 Californians To Lose Power After Midnight! ???

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/800000-californians-lose-power-after-midnight

For millions of liberal Californians, especially those living in the immediate proximity of Berkeley, socialism is always and only the answer. And while we doubt they would voluntarily move to Venezuela to personally experience the fruits such a regime brings, especially in its final stages, nearly 1 million Californians are about to enjoy one of the biggest benefits of living in a socialist regime: lack of electricity.

Nearly 800,000 customers of bankrupt utility PG&E will lose power starting just after midnight as the embattled utility launches a (long-overdue) effort yet to avoid starting a wildfire in extremely dry and windy weather.

On Tuesday, PG&E said that it will proceed with the massive outages it has been considering this week, and adding 200,000 additional customers into the mix. Shutoffs will take place in every county in the Bay Area except San Francisco and will also occur in some of the far northern and southern corners of PG&E’s service area, reaching 34 counties, which means that San Franciscans will still be able to see when they are about to walk into human sh*t on the street.

Late Monday, PG&E released estimates of how many customers in each county the shut-offs could affect. The estimates included 32,613 customers in Alameda; 40,219 in Contra Costa; 32,124 in Napa; 38,123 in Santa Clara; 14,766 in San Mateo; 32,862 in Solano; and 66,289 in Sonoma. Updated figures weren’t available with Tuesday’s update that Marin would be included. A single customer account might be a residence or business with multiple people, so the number of people who lose power might reach in the millions.


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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #98 on: October 09, 2019, 10:09:20 AM »
800,000 Californians To Lose Power After Midnight! ???
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/800000-californians-lose-power-after-midnight

Nearly 800,000 customers of bankrupt utility PG&E will lose power starting just after midnight as the embattled utility launches a (long-overdue) effort yet to avoid starting a wildfire in extremely dry and windy weather.
I don't understand the part about the "effort to avoid starting a wildfire..."  Are they saying that just having electricity flowing through the wires is conducive to wildfires?  Or is there something implied that some of us are missing?

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #99 on: October 09, 2019, 11:29:03 AM »
The ZeroHedge article says that 200,000 additional customers will also experience the blackout, so that means an aggregate of one million households are affected.

The article says that the outage may last almost a week.  That means that unless they have a backup source of power, they will not be able to keep frozen foods safely during that period of time without adequate dry ice, and think of how many people are filling their freezers for winter now?  Imagine having spent several hundred dollars to do that, only to end up losing it all?

Do customers on a budget payment plan receive credit for 16% of the month being without power?

Consider also that California's wild fire season is nearly year-round, with the summer fire season being June to September, and the Santa Anna wind fire season being October to April.  How often will the inspections take place, and how many blackouts will be necessitated during those months? 

One can't help wonder if and how this might connect to the fact that PG & E is bankrupt...
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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #100 on: October 09, 2019, 02:25:02 PM »
Anne*411 uses broadcast news media footage from California to document several more disturbing facts about the deliberate California power blackout:

1. Authorities are going door to door and ordering restaurants closed.

2. Traffic lights will be non-functional

3. Gas pumps will be non-functional

4. Plumbing will be non-functional

5. Grocery stores will not be open

6. Hardware stores' shelves are bare of flashlights

7. Bridges and tunnels are shutting down

8. All vacations for police officers have been cancelled, and everyone is called to duty

9. No parking will be allowed on streets

10. Communities without woodlands and not in fire zones will still be forced to comply

11. Back-up generators are sold out in many places

12. P G & E's website is reportedly not functioning

13. Those relying upon electrical medical devices are on their own to provide back-up power

Does this sound like practice for M. L.?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YenUWORVf8

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #101 on: October 09, 2019, 04:09:46 PM »
Interesting perspective from Californian and economic analyst Bob Kudla on P G & E:

A judge has ruled that the bankrupt energy company cannot hike the rates of customers to pay off its debt.  Kudla explains how this may be an angle of what is happening in California right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0tX26SX_0c

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #102 on: October 09, 2019, 09:55:33 PM »
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Does this sound like practice for M. L.?

Sounds like practice for expected future scenario in general.  Martial law would be involved in most cases, I expect.

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #103 on: October 10, 2019, 07:40:34 AM »
The Common Sense Show is reporting that radio signal repeater towers are being taken down from hilltops in California as well, making ham radios unusable. 

I won't post the link because the film is politically charged, but readers who want to hear it can go to the Common Sense Show home page and look for the "Historical Change" video.

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Re: When the Lights Go Out
« Reply #104 on: October 10, 2019, 08:51:40 AM »
PG&E's website:  https://www.pge.com/

Went to their website and home page's headline read:  Public Safety Power Shutoff Announcement

Went back about two minutes later and there was no such headline!  But that term was incorporated in the small text in an article.  Strange indeed.   As RR asked, could the shutoff be related to their bankruptcy?  It does seem possible or even likely.

 

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