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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2019, 03:02:38 PM »
Dahboo77 reports on yet another stanza of the song that we're hearing regularly in the news lately: Massive food recall due to some safety issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVwAfrZaKO8

This time it's 14,000 cases of King Arthur flour, allegedly due to E. coli.

This is becoming increasingly suspicious.

First, it would be exceedingly difficult for such a microbe to survive in that dry an environment in enough quantity to do harm, especially to a functioning adult GI tract.

Secondly is the timing issue.  Just as we're on the brink of a massive global famine that is likely to begin showing up within months from now, wouldn't the story be more credible if they simply stated outright that wealthy PTB are taking today's dollars, which will be worth less tomorrow, and purchasing commodities at today's less inflated prices, likely placing them in cold storage underground somewhere?

Perhaps the flour will be used exclusively for their own consumption, or perhaps it will be trotted out a few years down the road in a profound shortage and sold for a fortune, making the investor rich beyond his wildest dreams.

Incidentally, King Arthur is the one commonly available commercial brand that produces high-quality organic unbleached pastry flour for people who are slightly choosier and more health-conscious, so once again one detects a discriminating clientelle here...

Alternative theories are welcome!  :)




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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #61 on: June 18, 2019, 01:38:12 AM »
Dahboo77 reports on yet another stanza of the song that we're hearing regularly in the news lately: Massive food recall due to some safety issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVwAfrZaKO8

This time it's 14,000 cases of King Arthur flour, allegedly due to E. coli.

This is becoming increasingly suspicious.

First, it would be exceedingly difficult for such a microbe to survive in that dry an environment in enough quantity to do harm, especially to a functioning adult GI tract.

Secondly is the timing issue.  Just as we're on the brink of a massive global famine that is likely to begin showing up within months from now, wouldn't the story be more credible if they simply stated outright that wealthy PTB are taking today's dollars, which will be worth less tomorrow, and purchasing commodities at today's less inflated prices, likely placing them in cold storage underground somewhere?

Perhaps the flour will be used exclusively for their own consumption, or perhaps it will be trotted out a few years down the road in a profound shortage and sold for a fortune, making the investor rich beyond his wildest dreams.

Incidentally, King Arthur is the one commonly available commercial brand that produces high-quality organic unbleached pastry flour for people who are slightly choosier and more health-conscious, so once again one detects a discriminating clientelle here...

Alternative theories are welcome!  :)






R.R. I think your theory is probably right.
Ecoli in this flour does seem unlikely and -
I can see how some people would like to stockpile it, because they can.

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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #62 on: June 18, 2019, 12:42:28 PM »
RR, I agree with Barb, in that your idea is probably right on.  Besides the fact that E.Coli is usually not found or worrisome in such dry foods, the other issue is that people use flour for baking. 

I know of no recipe I've ever used that calls for raw flour that is never baked or heated in some way.  So, even if E. Coli were present, once the flour is made into loaves and baked, the E. Coli would not survive the heat.  Yes, that "story" doesn't seem legit.

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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #63 on: July 06, 2019, 10:48:54 AM »
Michael from Evolutionary Energy Arts contributed several food shortage articles yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJqCF10LDOg  @ around 5:05 -

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FOOD SHORTAGES BEGIN IN U.S.A.

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/food-shortages-begin-in-u-s-a



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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #64 on: July 06, 2019, 10:56:16 AM »
More from the same link:

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Taco Bell restaurants hit by tortilla shortage that is affecting burritos and quesadillas

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2019/07/03/taco-bell-tortilla-shortage-burritos-quesadillas-tortillapocalypse/1644472001/

Imagine a Mexican restaurant without burritos and quesodillas?


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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #65 on: July 07, 2019, 04:05:47 PM »
Dave Dubyne made the comment that 2019's corn acreage planted has been the lowest ever recorded in the history of the U.S., even 15 million less than in 1938 when the global population was only 2.21 billion.  As the #1 corn producer in the world, the U.S. has traditionally been expected to feed both itself and others via exports.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixtRb1efk6E

There are 7.7 billion people on the earth now in 2019.

So the population in 1938 was only 29% of today's population, and the amount of corn planted this year would not have even been enough to feed those alive back in that era.


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« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2019, 08:07:24 PM »

"So the population in 1938 was only 29% of today's population, and the amount of corn planted this year would not have even been enough to feed those alive back in that era."

Wow, food for thought.

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« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2019, 04:52:21 AM »
An even scarier thought is that Dave's comment only applies to corn planted this year.  Since the final harvest tallies remain to be seen, and since much of the corn was deliberately planted on water-logged ground in order to qualify for crop insurance (knowing the crops would fail), the situation could prove to be even more dire than he is stating.

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« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2019, 03:19:35 PM »
An even scarier thought is that Dave's comment only applies to corn planted this year.  Since the final harvest tallies remain to be seen, and since much of the corn was deliberately planted on water-logged ground in order to qualify for crop insurance (knowing the crops would fail), the situation could prove to be even more dire than he is stating.
It does get worse, doesn't it?  Even if everyone had planted with the idea of actually harvesting a good crop, weather--even in good times--is never reliable.  So nowadays, it's even less reliable, so acres planted will always be greater than acres harvested.  Tighten our belts everyone.

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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2019, 02:48:45 PM »
Youtuber Full House Homesteaders W/ Homestead Mama discusses a pattern which some governments have used historically to gradually starve out their own populace:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVusSI0VuWs


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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2019, 04:30:07 PM »
Owner of the Freedom Acres Youtube channel discusses food shortages on her visit to Deep South Homestead.  You won't want to miss the gorgeous pantry located right in the dining room!  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VFHXFDUVMY


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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2019, 02:14:37 AM »

"So the population in 1938 was only 29% of today's population, and the amount of corn planted this year would not have even been enough to feed those alive back in that era."

Wow, food for thought.

 :o

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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2019, 02:15:23 AM »
Owner of the Freedom Acres Youtube channel discusses food shortages on her visit to Deep South Homestead.  You won't want to miss the gorgeous pantry located right in the dining room!  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VFHXFDUVMY



R.R. thanks for posting this, looks like a wealth of info.

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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #73 on: August 09, 2019, 05:40:56 AM »
Howie from Cedar Creek Homestead in Oklahoma comments on prepping for food shortages:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEYVdahpeCM


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Re: Food shortages materializing
« Reply #74 on: August 11, 2019, 11:20:03 AM »
In pondering food shortages, I suddenly realized we may experience some of that right here this year and next, because of the intense wind storms that visited this area early this spring.

The wind was so intense that it literally blew many fruit blossoms from the trees, and at the same time collapsed/shredded our makeshift greenhouse.  Our four Shinko pear trees had been absolutely loaded with their usual masses of white blossoms.  When the several days of wind was over, most of the blossoms that had not fallen, were ready to drop soon.  We noticed a couple of months later a tiny handful of fruit apparently on the leeward side of the trees.  But these fruit are small and misshapen, and total fewer than 10 for all four trees.

The only tree we have not checked yet is our "conventional" pear, planted from seed and now after 20 years, finally producing.

Then there are the wild plums.  Hubby and I often go in different directions across the landscape in our various chores, and we both notice hardly any wild plum this year.   Yesterday I gathered four fruits from a tree that should have hundreds.

Persommon trees are sparsely populated with developing fruit, but there at least will be some, but certainly not the normal amount.

Our chestnut trees had finally begun to produce a few years ago, with last year giving a meager but genuine harvest of six chestnuts.  A good start.  This year there is only one serious chestnut forming, of all the dozen or so chestnut trees in our bottom area.

Pawpaws seem to be the only tree not affected, and my best guess is it's because the pawpaw develops flowers and fruit later than most around here, (similar to persimmon)  and when the wind was wreaking havoc, pawpaws were still "thinking" about starting their cycle.  In fact, when walking down the dirt road, one can see all the large and green pawpaw fruits hanging down and just waiting to ripen. 

Not sure what would have happened to apple or cherry trees if we had had any.  Nor not sure if acorns have been affected either but do recall studying one particularly productive oak tree and seeing no nuts anywhere.   As hubby commented, this may be a tough year for all the wildlife who depend on the wild fruit and nuts.

So with the climate behaving so erratically, it's best to remind ourselves that nothing is guaranteed.



 

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