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Re: Knowing what a virus really is before trying to treat it
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2019, 11:12:43 AM »
Point well taken Ilinda.  I'm thinking more of drugs targeting viral envelopes, or capsids, but that's a whole 'nother discussion!

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Re: Knowing what a virus really is before trying to treat it
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2019, 12:52:01 PM »
It's probably one that will happen eventually, and this reminds me of Holy Basil.  When I became "infected" with something (still unknown) in late July, and still suffering some effects, I did constant reading about herbs and one thing that stuck in my mind is that Holy Basil has antibacterial, antifungal, and antiviral activity.  So right then and there I added Holy Basil to my daily self-dosing. 

Right now it's so laden with honeybees that it will be hard to harvest some without a lot of guilt.  Plus I did harvest a bunch in August and earlier this month.  Below is one of the articles about it:

https://articles.mercola.com/vitamins-supplements/holy-basil.aspx?utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art3&utm_campaign=20190810Z1&et_ci
"Help ease stress and anxiety with holy basil
   •   August 10, 2019
 
Story at-a-glance
   •   Holy basil is revered in India as one of the most sacred herbs because of its perceived effects on spiritual, mental and physical health
   •   Studies show that holy basil may provide various benefits to your health, such as supporting the immune system and relieving anxiety
Table of Contents
   •   What is holy basil?
   •   How can you benefit from holy basil supplements?
   •   Studies show that holy basil may boost your dental health
   •   Watch out for these possible holy basil side effects
   •   Holy basil is an impressive herb, but it's not a magic bullet
   •   Frequently asked questions about holy basil
Holy basil, or tulsi, is a medicinal herb famous in Ayurvedic medicine because of the vast health benefits it offers. For hundreds of years, it's been widely utilized in Southeast Asia. Today, it's starting to make a name for itself in Western medicine as more and more people are finding out about its impressive properties.
It is available as an essential oil, supplement and tea. Continue reading this article to learn more about it and how you can benefit from this supplement today.
What is holy basil?
Holy basil (Ocimum tenuiflorum), is a green leafy plant native to India. It is especially popular in Ayurvedic medicine as an adaptogen, a substance that helps the body normalize when it is exposed to severe stress. The local name for holy basil is "tulsi," which may be translated to "the incomparable one."1 This is especially understandable as the plant positively influences human health in more ways than one, making it almost "incomparable" to other herbs.2
Tulsi, sometimes referred to as tulasi, has been treasured in India by Hindus as one of their most sacred herbs3 — it's the plant manifestation of Lakshmi, the Hindu goddess of "wealth and purity".4,5 In another legend, a single holy basil leaf has more value than gold.6 Judging by how holy basil can positively influence important body processes, it's no surprise that it's revered to this day as the "queen of herbs."7
Today, the number of holy basil products available in the market is increasing, which makes it easier for you to acquire this herb. One of these products is holy basil supplements, which are typically made from powdered leaves, as indicated in one study.8

How can you benefit from holy basil supplements?
Based on the numerous possible benefits of holy basil, it may be one of the most impressive herbs in the plant kingdom. Its usefulness in the realm of Ayurvedic medicine knows no bounds as the whole plant may be utilized for various human conditions. Some of the benefits you might get from holy basil supplements include:
• Helping abate stress and anxiety — Holy basil is well-known for its adaptogenic properties, which may help the human body cope when exposed to stressful environments. In a 2007 animal study, holy basil was found to contain ocimumosides and ocimarin, two compounds that have antistress properties.9
• Supporting the immune system — Holy basil is thought to be useful for combating infections due to its powerful antibacterial, antiviral and antifungal properties. A 2011 study found that holy basil boosts the immune system by increasing cytokine and immune cell efficacy in mounting immune responses.10
• Protecting the liver — Holy basil may inhibit toxin-induced damage in the liver because of its membrane-stabilizing properties. A 2011 animal study shows that holy basil may help reduce fatty changes and cloudy swelling in the liver.11
• Helping alleviate pain — According to a 2015 study, holy basil contains analgesic, anti-inflammatory and antipyretic properties. It may help alleviate arthritis and joint pain due to these characteristics.12
• Managing diabetes symptoms — Holy basil may manage diabetes symptoms by helping affected people by controlling weight gain and cholesterol, as well as regulating excess insulin in the blood.13

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Studies show that holy basil may boost your dental health
Holy basil is rich in various active compounds that may largely influence important body processes.14 In fact, the health benefits holy basil possesses are backed by numerous scientific studies and research. Among these is its potential for improving dental health.
Two 2016 studies observed the effectiveness of holy basil as an antimicrobial agent for oral health. The first study, published in the Journal of Indian Society of Periodontology, collected bacterial samples of Actinobacillus actinomycetemcomitans from five patients with periodontal disease. After introducing a 6% concentration of holy basil to the bacterial cultures, the researchers concluded that holy basil may be used to help fight bacteria linked to periodontal disease.15
The second in vitro study, which appeared in the Journal of Clinical Diagnostic Research, used ethanolic extracts of tulsi to observe its antimicrobial function against P. actinomyctemcomitans, P. gingivalis and P. intermedia.
The 5% and 10% concentrations of holy basil proved to be effective against P. actinomycetemcomitans, but the succeeding two bacterial strains expressed resistance against the extract. The researchers noted that holy basil may be used as an aid for periodontal conditions, together with other treatment options.16

Watch out for these possible holy basil side effects
Holy basil is generally considered safe for consumption without causing serious side effects or complications. The only downside reported is a mild case of nausea, according to a 2017 study.17
However, note that there are little to no studies claiming that holy basil supplementation is safe during pregnancy; while holy basil may look beneficial for your health, there is no clear indication whether it's safe for your unborn child. Pregnant or breastfeeding women should veer away from this supplement to stay on the safe side.18

Holy basil is an impressive herb, but it's not a magic bullet
Holy basil has a long history of improving human health, and it has played a significant role in Ayurvedic practice for protecting people from disease even before it was introduced to Western medicine. Now that supplements have been developed, its health benefits have become more accessible.
However, remember that overall health cannot depend on this or any other one supplement alone. Holy basil may help you in achieving your best self, but remember that it is just as important to implement healthy lifestyle strategies, such as optimizing your diet, following a regular exercise regimen and minimizing your exposure to environmental toxins, to ensure that you maintain your health for the better.

Frequently asked questions about holy basil
Q: What is holy basil good for?
A: Holy basil may benefit various medical conditions such as metabolic and mental stress, and microbial infections, as well as providing protection against heavy metals.19
Q: Where can you buy holy basil?
A: Holy basil supplements, tea and other products are available at numerous health stores across the country. There are also a handful of online stores that sell holy basil supplements. However, make sure you get only the highest quality products from trustworthy companies.
Q: Are holy basil supplements safe?
A: Holy basil supplements are safe to ingest for most people.20 But before taking one, consult with your doctor and contact the doctor right away if you develop any severe side effects.
   •   1 eMedicineHealth, “Holy Basil”
   •   2 Organic India, “What Is Tulsi (Holy Basil)?”
   •   3, 7, 19 J Ayurveda Integr Med. 2014 Oct-Dec; 5(4): 251–259
   •   4 Organic India, “Tulsi — Holy Basil”
   •   5 BBC, “Lakshmi”
   •   6 Learn Religions, “Tulsi or the Holy Basil in Hinduism”
   •   8 Plant Foods Hum Nutr. 1997;50(1):9-16
   •   9 J Nat Prod. 2007 Sep;70(9):1410-6. Epub 2007 Sep 13
   •   10 J Ethnopharmacol. 2011 Jul 14;136(3):452-6. doi: 10.1016/j.jep.2011.05.012. Epub 2011 May 17
   •   11 Pharmacognosy Res. 2011 Jan;3(1):13-8. doi: 10.4103/0974-8490.79110
   •   12 Pharmacogn Mag. 2015 May;11(Suppl 1):S217-24. doi: 10.4103/0973-1296.157743
   •   13 Journal of Ayurveda and Integrative Medicine. Oct-Dec 2014.
   •   14 Indian J Exp Biol. 2007 May;45(5):403-12
   •   15 J Indian Soc Periodontol. 2016 Mar-Apr; 20(2): 145–150
   •   16  J Clin Diagn Res. 2016 Mar; 10(3): ZC53–ZC56
   •   17 Evid Based Complement Alternat Med. 2017; 2017: 9217567
   •   18 Pharmacogn Rev. 2010 Jan-Jun; 4(7): 95–105
   •   20 Indian J Clin Biochem. 2017 Jul;32(3):357-363

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A Delicious Longevity Tea Recipe
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Hi Linda,
Today, I've got an aromatic and revitalizing tea recipe to share with you. You can whip it up in minutes, and all the ingredients are readily available at most grocery stores.
The star of this herbal tea is holy basil.
In Ayurvedic medicine, holy basil is classified as a Rasayana, or an herb that promotes overall health and boosts one’s longevity. For three thousand years, tea from this herb has been prepared daily and is believed to help balance the chakras, or energy centers in the body.
Known as tulsi in India, holy basil is referred to as the “elixir of life” and can be found growing around the most revered Hindu shrines and temples. Energizing and delicious, this fix-all has found its way into many surrounding cultures, including those of Southeast Asia and the Middle East.
The herb has withstood the scrutiny of science as well. Holy basil is rich in antioxidants, is extremely detoxifying, regulates the adrenal system making it an effective anti-stress tonic, and possesses unusually high levels of the essential fatty acid, alpha-linolenic acid, which is a proven anti-inflammatory.
Long story short, holy basil is good for you!
Holy Basil Tea Recipe
Ingredients:
   •   1 cup water
   •   ¼ tsp fennel seeds
   •   ¼ tsp cumin
   •   ½ tsp cloves
   •   ⅓ tsp green cardamom, crushed
   •   1-2 tsp of tulsi (holy basil)
   •   Wild honey to taste
Preparation
   •   Put all ingredients in a small pot and simmer for 20 minutes.
   •   Strain into a mug or cup and enjoy.
This tea can be enjoyed hot or iced, so you can harness the healing power of holy basil all year round!
A little secret: in our house, we love adding a little oat milk or almond milk to this brew, after the tea has steeped. It's so good!
Stay curious,"
Nick Polizzi
Host of Remedy: Ancient Medicine for Modern Illness
& Founder of The Sacred Science

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Re: Knowing what a virus really is before trying to treat it
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2019, 06:36:57 PM »
What a beautiful and useful plant Ilinda.  Thanks for sharing the tea recipe!


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Re: Knowing what a virus really is before trying to treat it
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2019, 05:11:19 PM »
(Editor's note:  this article really opened my eyes a bit about viruses.  There is another, relevant article that will be posted as soon as I can find it.)

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/why-only-thing-influenza-may-kill-germ-theory
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Groundbreaking research indicates that most of what we believed about the purportedly deadly properties of viruses like influenza is based on nothing more than institutionalized superstition and myth
Germ theory is an immensely powerful force on this planet, affecting everyday interactions from a handshake, all the way up the ladder to national vaccination agendas and global eradication campaigns.
But what if fundamental research on what exactly these 'pathogens' are, how they infect us, has not yet even been performed? What if much of what is assumed and believed about the danger of microbes, particularly viruses, has completely been undermined in light of radical new discoveries in microbiology?
Some of our readers already know that in my previous writings I discuss why the "germs as our enemies" concept has been decimated by the relatively recent discovery of the microbiome. For in depth background on this topic, read my previous article, "How The Microbiome Destroyed the Ego, Vaccine Policy, and Patriarchy." You can also read Profound Implications of the Virome for Human Health and Autoimmunity, to get a better understanding of how viruses are actually benefificial to health. 
In this article I will take a less philosophical approach, and focus on influenza as a more concrete example of the Copernican-level paradigm shift in biomedicine and life sciences we are all presently fully immersed within, even if the medical establishment has yet to acknowledge it.

Deadly Flu Viruses: Vaccinate or Die? 

The hyperbolic manner in which health policymakers and the mainstream media talk about it today, flu virus is a deadly force, against which all citizens, of all ages 6 months or older, need to take an annual influenza vaccine to protect themselves against, lest they face deadly consequences. Worse, those who hold religious or philosophical objections, or who otherwise conscientiously object to vaccinating, are being characterized as doing harm to others by denying them herd immunity (a concept that has been completely debunked by a careful study of the evidence, or lack thereof). For instance, in the interview below Bill Gates tells Sanjay Gupta that he thinks non-vaccinators "kill children":
But what if I told you that there isn’t even such a thing as "flu virus," in the sense of a monolithic, disease vector existing outside of us, conceived as it is as the relationship of predator to prey?
First, consider that the highly authorative Cochrane collaboration acknowledges there are many different flu viruses that are not, in fact, influenza A -- against which flu vaccines are targeted -- but which nonetheless can contribute to symptoms identical to those attributed to influenza A:
Over 200 viruses cause influenza and influenza-like illness which produce the same symptoms (fever, headache, aches and pains, cough and runny noses). Without laboratory tests, doctors cannot tell the two illnesses apart. Both last for days and rarely lead to death or serious illness. At best, vaccines might be effective against only Influenza A and B, which represent about 10% of all circulating viruses." (Source: Cochrane Summaries)." [emphasis added]
This makes for a picture of complexity that powerfully undermines health policies that presuppose vaccination equates to bona fide immunity, and by implication, necessitates the herd collectively participate in the ritual of mass vaccination campaigns as a matter of social responsibility and necessity. 
Even the use of the word "immunization" to describe vaccination is highly misleading. The moment the word is used, it already presupposes efficacy, and makes it appear as if non-vaccinators are anti-immunity, instead of what they actually are: pro-immunity (via clean air, food, water, and sunlight), but unwilling to subject themselves or their healthy children to "unavoidably unsafe" medical procedures with only theoretical benefits. 

Why Flu Virus Doesn't Exist (The Way We Were Told)

But the topic gets even more interesting when we consider the findings of a 2015 study entitled "Conserved and host-specific features of influenza virion architecture." This was the first study ever to plumb the molecular depths of what influenza virus is actually composed of. Amazingly, given the long history of vaccine use and promotion, the full characterization of what proteins it contains, and where they are derived from, was never previously performed. How we invest billions of dollars annually into flu vaccines, and have created a global campaign to countermand a viral enemy, whose basic building blocks we don't even know, is hard to understand. But it is true nonetheless. 

The study abstract opens with this highly provocative line: 
Viruses use virions to spread between hosts, and virion composition is therefore the primary determinant of viral transmissibility and immunogenicity." [emphasis added]
Virion are also known as "viral particles," and they are the means by which viral nucleic acids are able to move and 'infect' living organisms. Without the viral particle (taxi) to carry around the virus DNA (passenger), it would be harmless; in fact, viruses are often described as existing somewhere between living and inanimate objects for this reason: they do not produce their own energy, nor are transmissable without a living host. And so, in this first line, the authors are making it clear that virion composition is also the primary determinant in how or whether a virus is infectious (transmits) and what effects it will have in the immune system of the infected host. 


Influenza viral particles

This distinction is important because we often think of viruses as simply pathogenic strings of DNA or RNA. The irony, of course, is that the very things we attribute so much lethality to -- viral nucleic acids -- are not even alive, and can not infect an organism without all the other components (proteins, lipids, extra-viral nucleic acids) which are, technically, not viral in origin, participating in the process. And so, if the components that are non-viral are essential for the virus to cause harm, how can we continue to maintain that we are up against a monolithic disease entity "out there" who "infects" us, a passive victim? It's fundamentally non-sensical, given these findings. It also clearly undermines the incessant, fear-based rhetoric those beholden to the pro-vaccine stance to coerce the masses into undergoing the largely faith-based rite of vaccination. 

Let's dive deeper into the study's findings...

The next line of the abstract addresses the fact we opened this article with: namely, that there is great complexity involved at the level of the profound variability in virion composition:

However, the virions of many viruses are complex and pleomorphic, making them difficult to analyze in detail" 
But this problem of the great variability in the virion composition of influenza is exactly why the study was conducted. They explain: 
Here we address this by identifying and quantifying viral proteins with mass spectrometry, producing a complete and quantifiable model of the hundreds of viral and host-encoded proteins that make up the pleomorphic virions of influenza virus. We show that a conserved influenza virion architecture, which includes substantial quantities of host proteins as well as the viral protein NSI, is elaborated with abundant host-dependent features. As a result, influenza virions produced by mammalian and avian hosts have distinct protein compositions." 
In other words, they found that the flu virus is as much comprised of biological material from the host the virus 'infects,' as the viral genetic material of the virus per se.
How then, do we differentiate influenza virus as fully "other"? Given that it would not exist without "self" proteins, or those of other host animals like birds (avian) or insects, this would be impossible to do with any intellectual honesty intact.
There's also the significant problem presented by flu vaccine production. Presently, human flu vaccine antigen is produced via insects and chicken eggs. This means that the virus particles extracted from these hosts would contain foreign proteins, and would therefore produce different and/or unpredictable immunological responses in humans than would be expected from human influenza viral particles. One possibility is that the dozens of foreign proteins found within avian influenza could theoretically produce antigens in humans that cross-react with self-structures resulting in autoimmunity. Safety testing, presently, does not test for these cross reactions. Clearly, this discovery opens up a pandora's box of potential problems that have never sufficiently been analyzed, since it was never understood until now that "influenza" is so thoroughly dependent upon a host for its transmissability and immunogenecity. 

Are Flu Viruses Really "Hijacked" Exosomes?

Lastly, the study identified something even more amazing:
Finally, we note that influenza virions share an underlying protein composition with exosomes, suggesting that influenza virions form by subverting micro vesicle" production.
What these researchers are talking about is the discovery that virion particles share stunning similarities to naturally occurring virus-like particles produced by all living cells called exosomes. Exosomes, like many viruses (i.e. enveloped viruses) are enclosed in a membrane, and are within the 50-100 nanometer size range that viruses are (20-400 nm). They also contain biologically active molecules, such as proteins and lipids, as well as information-containing ones like RNAs -- exactly, or very similar, to the types of contents you find in viral particles.

Watch this basic video on exosomes to get a primer:

When we start to look at viruses through the lens of their overlap with exosomes, which as carriers of RNAs are essential for regulating the expression of the vast majority of the human genome, we start to understand how their function could be considered neutral as "information carriers," if not beneficial. Both exosomes and viruses may actually be responsible for inter-species or cross-kingdom communication and regulation within the biosphere, given the way they are able to facilitate and mediate horizontal information transfer between organisms. Even eating a piece of fruit containing these exosomes can alter the expression of vitally important genes within our body. 


Exosomes

In light of this post-Germ Theory perspective, viruses could be described as pieces of information in search of chromosomes; not inherently "bad," but, in fact, essential for mediating the genotype/phenotype relationship within organisms, who must adapt to ever-shifting environmental conditions in real-time in order to survive; something the glacial pace of genetic changes within the primary nucleotide sequences of our DNA cannot do (for instance, it may take ~ 100,000 years for a protein-coding gene sequence to change versus seconds for a protein-coding gene's expression to be altered via modulation via viral or exosomal RNAs). 
This does not mean they are "all good", either. Sometimes, given many conditions outside their control, their messages could present challenges or misinformation to the cells to which they are exposed, which could result in a "disease symptom." These disease symptoms are often if not invariably attempts by the body to self-regulate and ultimately improve and heal itself.
In other words, the virion composition of viruses appears to be the byproduct of the cell’s normal exosome (also known as microvesicle) production machinery and trafficking, albeit being influenced by influenza DNA. And like exosomes, viruses may be a means of extracellular communication between cells, instead of simply a pathological disease entity. This could explain why an accumulating body of research on the role of the virome in human health indicates that so-called infectious agents, including viruses like measles, confer significant health benefits. [see: the Health Benefits of Measles and The Healing Power of Germs?].
Other researchers have come to similar discoveries about the relationship between exosomes and viruses, sometimes describing viral hijacking of exosome pathways as a "Trojan horse" hypothesis. HIV may provide such an example. 

Concluding Remarks

The remarkably recent discovery of the host-dependent nature of the influenza virus' virion composition is really just the tip of an intellectual iceberg that has yet to fully emerge into the light of day, but is already "sinking" ships; paradigm ships, if you will.
One such paradigm is that germs are enemy combatants, and that viruses serve no fundamental role in our health, and should be eradicated from the earth with drugs and vaccines, if possible. 
This belief, however, is untenable. With the discovery of the indispensable role of the microbiome, and the subpopulation of viruses within it -- the virome -- we have entered into an entirely new, ecologically-based view of the body and its environs that are fundamentally inseparable. Ironically, the only thing that influenza may be capable of killing is germ theory itself.
For an in-depth exploration of this, watch the lecture below on the virome. I promise, if you do so, you will no longer be able to uphold germ theory as a monolithic truth any longer. You may even start to understand how we might consider some viruses "our friends," and why we may need viruses far more than they need us.

Sayer Ji is founder of Greenmedinfo.com, a reviewer at the International Journal of Human Nutrition and Functional Medicine, Co-founder and CEO of Systome Biomed, Vice Chairman of the Board of the National Health Federation, Steering Committee Member of the Global Non-GMO Foundation.

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Re: Knowing what a virus really is before trying to treat it
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2019, 06:34:26 AM »
Ilinda, thank you so much for posting this.  I've read through it carefully, but will want to digest it a bit.

First of all, that quote from Bill Gates (essentially "shut up and bend over for the shot") sounds exactly like something that he would say!  Does he line up for a flu shot himself?  If so, I'll bet it's a placebo...  ;)

Very interesting about exosomes behaving like methylation in terms of switching genes off and on, and also a bit creepy when we think about what germ warfare labs could be doing to the "herd" or even to target a specific population (now that the field of "bioinformatics" has mapped the genomes of perhaps most ethnicities on earth).

There's a lot of insight in the article's suggestion that the infectious capability of a virus depends upon the internal landscape of each potential host.  Interesting that others have arrived at the "Trojan horse" analogy as well.  I had only arrived at that after pondering the NIH study on lack of B vitamins being at the root of all sore throats, as well as thiamine and riboflavin being common denominators in the genome snippets of viral material.

Perhaps most interesting of all is the conclusion that germs are of so much benefit to the human body, and that makes sense.  It may be only when our lives and internal microbiomes are out of balance that they become harmful.

 

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