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Lyme Disease - post your suggestions here.
« on: December 17, 2014, 09:24:35 AM »
Any ideas?
Back soon and will post what I find...


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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2014, 05:16:15 PM »
There are some videos on youtube, a couple of which are:
Daniel Vitalis Interviews Stephen Harrod Buhner

The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic - Dr. Tent - It's Not Autoimmune, you have Viruses
(2 hrs 8 min 54 sec)

Buhner mentions Lyme Disease in part 3 in his excellent 4-part interview series, referenced above.

Also, a Dr. Tent gives a riveting 2 hour 8 min 54 sec talk that covers a LOT of information, some of which will be uncomfortable to our mainstream friends who want to believe the "authorities" are working in our best interests and that their mission is to "help" us.

Hope this helps.  In fact, Stephen Harrod Buhner has a website (mentioned in one or more of his 4 interview parts) and his book on Lyme Disease is available through Amazon as far as I know.


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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2014, 08:49:29 AM »
ilinda -thanks for your ideas!


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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2015, 08:19:10 AM »
And here's yet another take on Lyme Disease.  The link, came to me from a friend this AM in email.  I clicked on it and saw several other interesting things, including one about how PKU, phenylketonuria, that so-called genetic disease that manifests early on in infancy, might not be what we are told.  The article was truly fascinating and totally new to me.

This Lyme article said that, (different from the one posted above), Lyme Disease is the result of co-infection of a parasite and a bacterium.  Hope this helps some Lyme sufferers.

Naturally Curing Lyme Disease and Chronic Lyme Disease

Written by C. Thomas Corriher    Print       E-mail    

Comparison of lyme and syphilis spirochetes

Lyme disease is pictured on the left, and syphilis is shown on the right. Notice any difference? Only a germ warfare expert could find the difference. These pictures are courtesy of the C.D.C., and the University of California at Irvine.
For the sake of brevity, most of the research that we have compiled about Lyme disease is being omitted from this report. We expect to expand upon this topic later. The omissions include how Lyme disease is a U.S. Military bio-weapon that was accidentally released from the Plum Island facility, as was the West Nile Virus, bird flu, swine flu, and others. You may read about the illegal germ warfare program, which dates back to Operation Paperclip, in the book, Lab 257.

Finding useful and credible information about Lyme disease is exceedingly difficult, because those who have done research are usually afraid to talk about their findings. Our research causes us to conclude that weaponized Lyme disease employs a genetically-modified hybrid of syphilis, like the one that was used in the infamous Tuskegee Experiment. It lives in a symbiotic relationship with a microscopic parasite which it nourishes. This explains why the disease is so difficult to eradicate. Attacking only the bacteria without attacking the microscopic worm can enable the worm to flourish, reproduce, and to breed more of the viral component. Therefore, a two-pronged approach is needed to effectively cure Lyme disease. The bacteria and the worm should be attacked at the same time.

Jarisch-Herxheimer Reactions

Most commonly referred to as simply "herxes" or "Herxheimer reactions", this is when toxic die-off wastes result from the death of spirochetal pathogens. The name was given by Karl Herxheimer, who noticed this reaction when studying syphilis. When it dies, endotoxins are released. Whenever this occurs at a rate faster than a body can flush the wastes; fever, chills, rigor, muscle pain, hyperventilation, skin flushing, and a worsening of skin lesions can result. Due to these reactions, Lyme treatments can often make the symptoms worsen before they get better. It is important to differentiate this phenomena from a worsening of the actual condition. This reaction should be anticipated in any effective program.

The Health Wyze Lyme Disease Protocol

    Astragalus - The idea of using astragalus for a syphilis-like pathogen comes from Traditional Chinese Medicine, and this therapy was verified by American physicians in the early 20th Century (before the A.M.A. took over and eliminated natural therapies). It is known for strengthening the kidneys, liver, and heart. It also drives pathogens out of the lymph nodes, making it easier for the immune system to attack them. Some people who have had chronic Lyme for several years find that astragalus, even in small amounts, provokes too many symptoms, so they opt to forgo its use. However, this is unwise, and astragalus is one of the most important treatments. To understand the side effects, read about Herxheimer reactions above.
    Parasite cleanse - The topic of parasite cleanses is too large for us to adequately cover here, but a thorough and long-term parasite cleanse is of vital importance for killing Lyme disease.
    B vitamins - The B vitamins, particularly B-6, B-9 (folic acid), and B-12 (methylcobalamin) are known for healing damaged nerves.
    MSM - MSM is a sulfur protein that helps with joint pain, and it assists in repairing nerve damage. A standard adult dosage is 1 gram daily (1,000 mg.). Do not confuse it with M.M.S., which is a dangerous fraud.
    Food cravings - It would be wise to satisfy specific food cravings, because the body likely knows what it needs. It is also important to remember that children may take advantage of this suggestion, and suddenly "crave" ice cream constantly.
    Colloidal silver - This is a natural and general purpose anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral. It works electrically instead of chemically, so pathogens cannot develop any resistance to it. A reasonable starting amount would be 1 fluid ounce that is taken twice a day. An ounce is equal to two U.S. tablespoons. For maximum effect in the bloodstream, it should be held in the mouth for a minute before swallowing. If the patient gets noticeably sicker, then you need to immediately decrease the daily amount. Later, you should increase the dosage, but you must not increase it too rapidly, due to the toxic die-off reactions. One method of determining the ideal therapeutic amount would be to increase the dosage every day until the patient gets slightly sicker, and then cut back to a dosage that is slightly lower than that amount. Then use this ideal dosage for a couple of weeks before trying an increase again. Read the article, Making and Using Genuine Colloidal Silver, to learn how to make your own, because bad colloidal silver is worse than none at all.
    High salt diet - Use unrefined natural sea salt in all meals. If it is bright white, and therefore stripped of minerals, then it should be avoided. Good salt can only be found in health food stores and online. The extra salt will make the body inhospitable to pathogens, and it will simultaneously give better penetration to the colloidal silver, making it more effective. Unrefined sea salt also contains trace minerals that will help to negate the negative effects of increased sodium. Extra salt has the benefit of making a patient drink more, and keeping fluids circulating. Having Lyme disease and a high salt diet will make high blood pressure very likely. Just be watchful that it does not become dangerously high.
    High fat diet - Healthy fats are necessary to protect against central nervous system damage, and to heal any existing nerve damage. A key component of the Budwig Protocol, which involves mixing flax seed oil with full-fat yogurt or cottage cheese, would be very beneficial.
    Echinacea - This is well known for its efficacy in removing venom from the body. It is a very common treatment by those who are fighting Lyme disease, for this reason. Do not begin taking echinacea until the correct colloidal silver dosage is determined, else it will be impossible to determine if the worsening symptoms are due to echinacea or silver. Echinacea is known for making people feel worse for a short time after taking it, followed by them feeling much better. Due to this, it should be taken only once each day. Break from using the echinacea after three weeks, because it will lose its effectiveness. Stop taking it for a week, before restarting for another three week period.
    Chlorophyll - This provides the body with better oxygen absorption, which will support the body overall. In addition, it provides a safe amount of copper, which will make the body more toxic to pathogens. It will also give the colloidal silver better penetration, because silver will electro-chemically bind with the copper that is inside the chlorophyll.


    Niacin - Otherwise known as vitamin B-3, niacin can increase the deep tissue penetration of the other treatments, especially colloidal silver. Niacin is an unusual supplement with unusual effects, so read the article about niacin before using it. We recommend that people not use more than 100 mg. daily.
    Gotu kola - Historically, gotu kola was known for its toxicity to syphilis, so it can be assumed that it will help to kill Lyme pathogens. Gotu kola is typically supplemented using dosages of 500 mg. per day, but if it causes strong Herxheimer reactions, a lower dose is prudent.
    Ginkgo biloba - This is used to clear the mental fogginess that is a common symptom of Lyme disease. The standard dosage for an adult of average build is 120 mg. daily.
    Bentonite clay - Make a paste out of bentonite clay, and rub it over the spine every day. Lyme disease pathogens are known to congregate around the spinal column. Bentonite clay can somewhat penetrate the skin to cleanse venom and toxins out of the body, so it may be helpful in removing the die-off toxins.

Conclusionary Remarks

Lyme disease is a serious condition, and it is often permanent when it is treated with standard care. This is due in part to the fact that doctors usually deny the existence of chronic Lyme disease (most cases), and they categorically ignore the parasitic component. Symptoms which continue after two to three weeks of antibiotics are labeled as "Post-Lyme Syndrome", and victims are instructed to ignore future symptoms. Patients who do not comply in being silent are frequently accused of having mental illnesses, and they are then treated psychiatrically for the sake of medical political correctness, and to suppress meaningful investigation into what is really happening. It is the way that the U.S. Department of Defense wants to keep things. Curing Lyme disease is not easy, and it may require long-term dedication. To ensure success, the recommended protocol should be continued for three months after all symptoms subside. There has been some success in curing Lyme disease with standard therapy, for cases which were caught early enough, but only similar alternative therapies will work for well-established infections.

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Comments (5)

    Date: 07/16/2014 Time: 07:20:25 | Kathleen Scott  - Great Article

    I look forward to your more in depth show about this topic. I would also add psyllium fiber to this list. I have personally found it helps with many health issues and really helps moves the toxins out of the body. I have recently been researching diatomaceous earth also and would love it if you could share any information you have about it. I have had success with it on my animals for ear mites, ticks and fleas, but wonder about the proof for internal parasites. Keep up the good fight. Blessings to you both and your family.

    Date: 09/25/2014 Time: 07:47:16 | Anna Bridges  - West Nile

    I have just read your short article . I had West Nile -MD Anderson has kept me in a study for the last 9 years . I felt vindicated when I read that West Nile was a government created disease . I have all ways said that it was . Every year they come to my home to take blood . I was very sick - a lot of pain for 2 weeks - my lungs felt like I had inhaled ammonia. After they two weeks - I could not control the way I walked or talked . West Nile attacks your central nervous system. Lucky for me - I have some Hippy friends - they took me for acupuncture - I walked in on a cane and walked out without one . For one week I drank this concoction of herbs that were to clean out my blood . Thank God it worked ! For the next year - I had boughs of dizziness - My big question is - due to my illness being caused by our government - why are not all victims of these government created diseases compensated for their illnesses ??????????

    Date: 12/11/2014 Time: 13:52:19 | dodie bishoff

    Because they are trying to hide their involvement..Lyme also is Government created, but I guess until all of us who have suffered at their hands start demanding answers and compensation, we won't get anywhere.....I hope you're doing well now with your sickness....

    Date: 12/11/2014 Time: 13:48:13 | dodie bishoff

    I struggled with lyme for years..I did the whole massive antibiotic thing for 3 years..I noticed symptoms coming and going even after stopping the massive doses of antibiotics..( which only added to the problem due to fungus).It wasn't until I found the protcol from a naturopathic Dr. that I became well again...The herxheimers became intense but after about 2 months I felt totally lyme free except for the nerve damage and the arthritis caused by the damage from the disease.. ....I think lyme is perhaps one of the worst diseases known to man..I suffered unbelievably as I know all Lyme people do..The colloidal silver (n which I had never heard of) was I believe the most signifcant in eradicating it.....Your knowledge in this area is amazing..Thank you for sharing...

    Date: 01/20/2015 Time: 08:59:18 | marianne bronder

    very interesting
    I think I have lyme but my elisa tests are negative
    I started taking colloidal silver

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The following, FASCINATING Lyme Disease "cure story" is so long that it is being posted in two parts. Here is part 1:
© Victoria Jenkins

How a bee sting saved my life: poison as medicine
Ellie Lobel was ready to die. Then she was attacked by bees. Christie Wilcox hears how venom can be a saviour.
24 March 2015
“I moved to California to die.”
Ellie Lobel was 27 when she was bitten by a tick and contracted Lyme disease. And she was not yet 45 when she decided to give up fighting for survival.
Caused by corkscrew-shaped bacteria called Borrelia burgdorferi, which enter the body through the bite of a tick, Lyme disease is diagnosed in around 300,000 people every year in the United States. It kills almost none of these people, and is by and large curable – if caught in time. If doctors correctly identify the cause of the illness early on, antibiotics can wipe out the bacteria quickly before they spread through the heart, joints and nervous system.
But back in the spring of 1996, Ellie didn’t know to look for the characteristic bull’s-eye rash when she was bitten – she thought it was just a weird spider bite. Then came three months with flu-like symptoms and horrible pains that moved around the body. Ellie was a fit, active woman with three kids, but her body did not know how to handle this new invader. She was incapacitated. “It was all I could do to get my head up off the pillow,” Ellie remembers.
Her first doctor told her it was just a virus, and it would run its course. So did the next. As time wore on, Ellie went to doctor after doctor, each giving her a different diagnosis. Multiple sclerosis. Lupus. Rheumatoid arthritis. Fibromyalgia. None of them realised she was infected with Borrelia until more than a year after she contracted the disease – and by then, it was far too late. Lyme bacteria are exceptionally good at adapting, with some evidence that they may be capable of dodging both the immune system and the arsenal of antibiotics currently available. Borrelia are able to live all over the body, including the brain, leading to neurological symptoms. And even with antibiotic treatment, 10–20 per cent of patients don’t get better right away. There are testimonies of symptoms persisting – sometimes even resurfacing decades after the initial infection – though the exact cause of such post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome is a topic of debate among Lyme scientists.
“I just kept doing this treatment and that treatment,” says Ellie. Her condition was constantly worsening. She describes being stuck in bed or a wheelchair, not being able to think clearly, feeling like she’d lost her short-term memory and not feeling “smart” anymore. Ellie kept fighting, with every antibiotic, every pharmaceutical, every holistic treatment she could find. “With some things I would get better for a little while, and then I would just relapse right back into this horrible Lyme nightmare. And with every relapse it got worse.”
After fifteen years, she gave up.
“Nothing was working any more, and nobody had any answers for me,” she says. “Doctors couldn’t help me. I was spending all this cash and was going broke, and when I got my last test results back and all my counts were just horrible, I knew right then and there that this was the end.”
“I had outlived so many other people already,” she says, having lost friends from Lyme support groups, including some who just couldn’t take the suffering any more. “I didn’t care if I was going to see my next birthday. It’s just enough. I was ready to call it a life and be done with it.”
So she packed up everything and moved to California to die. And she almost did.
Less than a week after moving, Ellie was attacked by a swarm of Africanised bees.
Ellie was in California for three days before her attack. “I wanted to get some fresh air and feel the sun on my face and hear the birds sing. I knew that I was going to die in the next three months or four months. Just laying there in bed all crumpled up… It was kind of depressing.”
At this point, Ellie was struggling to stand on her own. She had a caregiver on hand to help her shuffle along the rural roads by her place in Wildomar, the place where she had chosen to die.
She was just standing near a broken wall and a tree when the first bee appeared, she remembers, “just hitting me in the head”. “All of a sudden – boom! – bees everywhere.”
Her caregiver ran. But Ellie couldn’t run – she couldn’t even walk. “They were in my hair, in my head, all I heard was this crazy buzzing in my ears. I thought: wow, this is it. I’m just going to die right here.”
Ellie, like 1–7 per cent of the world’s population, is severely allergic to bees. When she was two, a sting put her into anaphylaxis, a severe reaction of the body’s immune system that can include swelling, nausea and narrowing of the airways. She nearly died. She stopped breathing and had to be revived by defibrillation. Her mother drilled a fear of bees into her to ensure she never ended up in the same dire situation again. So when the bees descended, Ellie was sure that this was the end, a few months earlier than expected.
Bees – and some other species in the order Hymenoptera, such as ants and wasps – are armed with a potent sting that many of us are all too aware of. This is their venom, and it’s a mixture of many compounds. Perhaps the most important is a tiny 26-amino-acid peptide called melittin, which constitutes more than half of the venom of honey bees and is found in a number of other bees and wasps. This little compound is responsible for the burning pain associated with bee stings. It tricks our bodies into thinking that they are quite literally on fire.
When we experience high temperatures, our cells release inflammatory compounds that activate a special kind of channel, TRPV1, in sensory neurons. This ultimately causes the neurons to send a signal to the brain that we’re burning. Melittin subversively makes TRPV1 channels open by activating other enzymes that act just like those inflammatory compounds.
Jellyfish and other creatures also possess TRPV1-activating compounds in their venoms. The endpoint is the same: intense, burning pain.
“I could feel the first five or ten or fifteen but after that... All you hear is this overwhelming buzzing, and you feel them hitting your head, hitting your face, hitting your neck,” says Ellie.
“I just went limp. I put my hands up and covered my face because I didn’t want them stinging me in the eyes… The next thing I know, the bees are gone.”
When the bees finally dissipated, her caregiver tried to take her to the hospital, but Ellie refused to go. “This is God’s way of putting me out of my misery even sooner,” she told him. “I’m just going to accept this.”
“I locked myself in my room and told him to come collect the body tomorrow.”
But Ellie didn’t die. Not that day, and not three to four months later.
“I just can’t believe that was three years ago, and I just can’t believe where I am now,” she tells me. “I had all my blood work done. Everything. We tested everything. I’m so healthy.”
She believes the bees, and their venom, saved her life.
See Part 2 below:


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( Part 2: How a Bee Sting Saved My Life:  Poison as Medicine
Venom 1

© Victoria Jenkins
The idea that the same venom toxins that cause harm may also be used to heal is not new. Bee venom has been used as a treatment in East Asia since at least the second century BCE. In Chinese traditional medicine, scorpion venom is recognised as a powerful medicine, used to treat everything from eczema to epilepsy. Mithradates VI of Pontus, a formidable enemy of Rome (and also an infamous toxinologist), was said to have been saved from a potentially fatal wound on the battlefield by using steppe viper venom to stop the bleeding.
“Over millions of years, these little chemical engineers have developed a diversity of molecules that target different parts of our nervous system,” says Ken Winkel, Director of the Australian Venom Research Unit at the University of Melbourne. “This idea of applying these potent nerve toxins to somehow interrupt a nervous disease has been there for a long time. But we haven’t known enough to safely and effectively do that.”
Despite the wealth of history, the practical application of venoms in modern therapeutics has been minimal. That is, until the past ten years or so, according to Glenn King at the University of Queensland in Brisbane, Australia. In 1997, when Ellie was bouncing around from doctor to doctor, King was teasing apart the components of the venom from the Australian funnel-web, a deadly spider. He’s now at the forefront of venom drug discovery.
King’s group was the first to put funnel-web venom through a separation method called high-performance liquid chromatography (HPLC), which can separate out different components in a mixture based on properties like size or charge. “I was just blown away,” he says. “This is an absolute pharmacological goldmine that nobody’s really looked at. Clearly hundreds and hundreds of different peptides.”
Centipede pain relief

Glenn King thinks his lab may have discovered a major breakthrough in pain relief. In centipedes.

Over the course of the 20th century, suggested venom treatments for a range of diseases have appeared in scientific and medical literature. Venoms have been shown to fight cancer, kill bacteria, and even serve as potent painkillers – though many have only gone as far as animal tests. At the time of writing, just six had been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration for medical use (one other – Baltrodibin, adapted from the venom of the Lancehead snake – is not FDA approved, but is available outside the US for treatment of bleeding during operations).
The more we learn about the venoms that cause such awful damage, the more we realise, medically speaking, how useful they can be. Like the melittin in bee venom.
Melittin does not only cause pain. In the right doses, it punches holes in cells’ protective membranes, causing the cells to explode. At low doses, melittin associates with the membranes, activating lipid-cutting enzymes that mimic the inflammation caused by heat. But at higher concentrations, and under the right conditions, melittin molecules group together into rings creating large pores in membranes, weakening a cell’s protective barrier and causing the entire cell to swell and pop like a balloon.
Because of this, melittin is a potent antimicrobial, fighting off a variety of bacteria and fungi with ease. And scientists are hoping to capitalise on this action to fight diseases like HIV, cancer, arthritis and multiple sclerosis.
For example, researchers at the Washington University School of Medicine in St Louis, Missouri, have found that melittin can tear open HIV’s protective cell membrane without harming human cells. This envelope-busting method also stops the virus from having a chance to evolve resistance. “We are attacking an inherent physical property of HIV,” Joshua L Hood, the lead author of the study, said in a press statement. “Theoretically, there isn’t any way for the virus to adapt to that. The virus has to have a protective coat.” Initially envisioned as a prophylactic vaginal gel, the hope is that melittin-loaded nanoparticles could someday be injected into the bloodstream, clearing the infection.

Venom 2

© Victoria Jenkins
Ellie is the first to admit that her tale sounds a little tall. “If someone were to have come to me and say, ‘Hey, I’ll sting you with some bees, and you’ll get better’, I would have said, ‘Absolutely not! You’re crazy in your head!’” But she has no doubts now.
After the attack, Ellie watched the clock, waiting for anaphylaxis to set in, but it didn’t. Instead, three hours later, her body was racked with pains. A scientist by education before Lyme took its toll, Ellie thinks that these weren’t a part of an allergic response, but instead indicated a Jarisch–Herxheimer reaction – her body was being flooded with toxins from dying bacteria. The same kind of thing can happen when a person is cured from a bad case of syphilis. A theory is that certain bacterial species go down swinging, releasing nasty compounds that cause fever, rash and other symptoms.
For three days, she was in pain. Then, she wasn’t.
“I had been living in this… I call it a brown-out because it’s like you’re walking around in a half-coma all the time with the inflammation of your brain from the Lyme. My brain just came right out of that fog. I thought: I can actually think clearly for the first time in years.”
With a now-clear head, Ellie started wondering what had happened. So she did what anyone else would do: Google it. Disappointingly, her searches turned up very little. But she did find one small 1997 study by scientists at the Rocky Mountain Laboratories in Montana, who’d found that melittin killed Borrelia. Exposing cell cultures to purified melittin, they reported that the compound completely inhibited Borrelia growth. When they looked more closely, they saw that shortly after melittin was added, the bacteria were effectively paralysed, unable to move as their outer membranes were under attack. Soon after, those membranes began to fall apart, killing the bacteria.
Convinced by her experience and the limited research she found, Ellie decided to try apitherapy, the therapeutic use of materials derived from bees.
Her bees live in a “bee condo” in her apartment. She doesn’t raise them herself; instead, she mail orders, receiving a package once a week. To perform the apitherapy, she uses tweezers to grab a bee and press it gently where she wants to be stung. “Sometimes I have to tap them on the tush a little bit,” she says, “but they’re usually pretty willing to sting you.”
She started on a regimen of ten stings a day, three days a week: Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Three years and several thousand stings later, Ellie seems to have recovered miraculously. Slowly, she has reduced the number of stings and their frequency – just three stings in the past eight months, she tells me (and one of those she tried in response to swelling from a broken bone, rather than Lyme-related symptoms). She keeps the bees around just in case, but for the past year before I talked to her, she’d mostly done just fine without them.
Modern science has slowly begun to take apart venoms piece by piece to understand how they do the things they do, both terrible and tremendous. We now know that most venoms are complex cocktails of compounds, with dozens to hundreds of different proteins, peptides and other molecules to be found in every one. The cocktails vary between species and can even vary within them, by age, location or diet. Each compound has a different task that allows the venom to work with maximum efficiency – many parts moving together to immobilise, induce pain, or do whatever it is that the animal needs its venom for.
The fact that venoms are mixtures of specifically targeted toxins rather than single toxins is exactly what makes them such rich sources of potential drugs – that’s all a drug is, really, a compound that has a desired effect on our bodies. The more specific the drug’s action, the better, as that means fewer side-effects.
“It was in the 2000s that people started saying well, actually, [venoms] are really complex molecular libraries, and we should start screening them against specific therapeutic targets as a source of drugs,” says King.
Of the seven venom-derived pharmaceuticals on the international market, the most successful, captopril, was derived from a peptide found in the venom of the Brazilian viper (Bothrops jararaca). This venom has been known for centuries for its potent blood-thinning ability – one tribe are said to have coated their arrow tips in it to inflict maximum damage – and the drug has made its parent company more than a billion dollars and become a common treatment for hypertension.
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Bryan Fry, a colleague of Glenn King’s at the University of Queensland and one of the world’s most prolific venom researchers, says the captopril family and its derivatives still command a market worth billions of dollars a year. Not bad for something developed in 1970s. “It’s not only been one of the top twenty drugs of all time,” he says, “it’s been one of the most persistent outside of maybe aspirin.”
And it’s not just captopril. Fry points to exenatide, a molecule found in the venom of a lizard, the gila monster, and the newest venom-derived pharmaceutical on the US market. Known by the brand name Byetta, this has the potential to treat type 2 diabetes, stimulating the body to release insulin and slow the overproduction of sugar, helping reverse the hormonal changes caused by the disease.
Rare cases like Ellie’s are a reminder of the potent potential of venoms. But turning folk knowledge into pharmaceuticals can be a long and arduous process. “It could take as long as ten years from the time you find it and patent it,” says King. “And for every one that you get through, ten fail.”

Venom 3

© Victoria Jenkins
Since the 1997 study, no one had looked further into bee venom as a potential cure for Lyme disease, until Ellie.
Ellie now runs a business selling bee-derived beauty products called BeeVinity, inspired after, she says, noticing how good her skin looked as she underwent apitherapy. “I thought, ‘Well, people aren’t going to want to get stung with bees just to look good.’”
Ellie has partnered with a bee farm that uses a special electrified glass plate to extract venom. As the bees walk across the plate on the way to and from their hive, harmless currents stimulate the bees to release venom from their abdomens, leaving teeny little droplets on the glass, which are later collected. Ellie says it takes 10,000 bees crossing that plate to get 1 gram of venom (other sources, such as the Food and Agriculture Organization of the UN, quote 1 million stings per gram of venom), but “those bees are not harmed”.
For her, it is more than just a way to make a living: it’s “an amazing blessing”. Proceeds from her creams and other products support bee preservation initiatives, as well as Lyme disease research. In addition, she sends some of the venom she purchases – which, due to the cost of the no-harm extraction method she uses, she says is “more expensive than gold” – to Eva Sapi, Associate Professor of Biology and Environmental Science at the University of New Haven, who studies Lyme disease.
Sapi’s research into the venom’s effects on Lyme bacteria is ongoing and as yet unpublished, though she told me the results from preliminary work done by one of her students look “very promising”. Borrelia bacteria can shift between different forms in the body, which is part of what makes them so hard to kill. Sapi has found that other antibiotics don’t actually kill the bacteria but just push them into another form that is more dormant. As soon as you stop the antibiotics, the Borrelia bounce back. Her lab is testing different bee venoms on all forms of the bacteria, and so far, the melittin venom seems effective.
The next step is to test whether melittin alone is responsible, or whether there are other important venom components. “We also want to see, using high-resolution images, what exactly happens when bee venom hits Borrelia,” Sapi told me.
She stresses that much more data is needed before any clinical use can be considered. “Before jumping into the human studies, I would like to see some animal studies,” she says. “It’s still a venom.” And they still don’t really know why the venom works for Ellie, not least because the exact cause of post-treatment Lyme disease symptoms remains unknown. “Is it effective for her because it’s killing Borrelia, or is it effective because it stimulates the immune system?” asks Sapi. It’s still a mystery.
There’s a long way to go for bee venom and melittin. And it takes a lot of work – and money – to turn a discovery into a safe, working medicine. But labs like King’s are starting to tap the pharmaceutical potential that lies in the full diversity of venomous species. And King, for one, believes that scientists are entering a new era of drug discovery.
In the past, venoms have been investigated because of their known effects on humans. Such investigations required both knowledge of the venom’s clinical effects and large volumes of venom, so until now only large species, like snakes, with easily extracted venoms have been studied in any depth. But that’s changing. Technological advances allow for more efficient venom extraction as well as new ways to study smaller amounts of venom. The preliminary tests for pharmaceuticals can now start with nothing more than a genetic sequence. “We can now genomically look at the toxins in these animals without having to actually even purify the venom,” says King, “and that changes everything.” Ken Winkel thinks venomous animals will be excellent drug resources for devastating neurological diseases, as so many of their venoms target our nervous system. “We really don’t have great drugs in this area,” he says, “and we have these little factories that have a plethora of compounds…”
No one knows exactly how many venomous species there are on this planet. There are venomous jellyfish, venomous snails, venomous insects, even venomous primates. With that, however, comes a race against time of our own making. Species are going extinct every year, and up to a third may go extinct from climate change alone.
“When people ask me what’s the best way to convince people to preserve nature, your weakest argument is to talk about how beautiful and wonderful it is,” says Bryan Fry. Instead, he says, we need to emphasise the untapped potential that these species represent. “It’s a resource, it’s money. So conservation through commercialisation is really the only sane approach.”
Ellie couldn’t agree more. “We need to do a lot more research on these venoms,” she tells me emphatically, “and really take a look at what’s in nature that’s going to help us.”
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2015, 10:56:04 PM »
ilinda - wow that is amazing stuff. I had heard, years ago about scientifically controlled bee stinging helping  (I think it was MS.) Had not heard of all those other uses of venoms! Wonderful to think about all the potential for cures, there.
I wonder if someone has it nailed down exactly how to use these small amounts of venoms, safely... Maybe that is posted in the article...will look...


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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 08:59:21 AM »
Note:  In this report of self-healing of Lyme Disease, Gucciardi used basically oregano oil, colloidal silver, and ozone.)

VIDEO: How I Cured My Own Disease After My Doctor Called Me 'Crazy'

by Anthony Gucciardi
Posted on April 26, 2015

After I was diagnosed with Lyme Disease several years ago, I asked my doctor if there was anything at all I could do to help fight the disease beyond the mega dose steroids he was giving me at the time. I was definitely concerned when he told me that certainly was nothing else I could do personally, but it wasn’t until I went to sleep at 5 PM and woke up at 5PM the next day did I decide that it was time to take my health into my own hands.

After hours and hours of nonstop research into the realm of alternative health options in regards of Lyme Disease, I approached my doctor with a list of options I thought may work. After all, I thought he would be reasonable enough to at least discuss which of the natural health options may be beneficial. Or perhaps even discuss the mountain of research that I had printed out. Much to my surprise, not having known how MDs are trained at that point in my life, my doctor told me that natural substances like oregano oil were highly dangerous and absolutely useless.

The testimonies, studies, articles, he didn’t want to see them. He told me how pervasive ‘quackery’ was online, and how people were dying from substances like colloidal silver and oregano oil. I wasn’t exactly convinced by his angry response to the mountain of information I had brought into his office, so I decided to become my own experiment. Would the oregano oil and colloidal silver kill me and turn me blue in the process?
After deciding to go against the urgent warnings of my Harvard MD, I ordered both of these substances online and began supplementing. I figured within a couple weeks I would either start to see potential improvement or meet my blue end. Amazingly, I felt virtually 100% better within 24 hours. So I kept up the routine, learning more as I went. I made mistakes along the way, and I learned how to take my health into my own hands — far away from the MD who told me that steroids were my only option.
I certainly know that in reality we do need talented surgeons and MDs who can help aid individuals suffering from potentially fatal wounds and emergency situations, but I also know that millions worldwide are aware of the amazing potential of nutrition-based healing to combat disease. And perhaps more importantly, millions are also aware of the fact that pharmaceutical juggernauts are making much too large of a profit to substitute their $20,000 drugs for $10 worth of a natural substance like turmeric.

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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2015, 02:17:03 PM »
Here is yet another very intriguing report about Lyme Disease.  This is a short excerpt from author Stephen Harrod Buhner's latest book, PLANT INTELLIGENCE And The IMAGINAL REALM.

At the bottom of page 289, he begins, "Following your feeling sense, you find the invisibles that connect an invasive plant such as Japanese knotweed (Polygonum cuspidatum) to the movement of lyme disease through ecosystems.  It comes then as no surprise that the plant is specific in the treatment of lyme disease, reducing the inflammation in the neural system that the disease organism initiates. 


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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2016, 02:19:23 AM »
Yowbarb Note: Note Borrelia a cause of Lyme disease...a lot of you know this - but there's more. A lot of chronic illnesses are caused by weaponized organisms... everything from autism to rheumatoid arthritis can be caused by hidden organisms...hidden because docs do not look for them....they even hide from the immune system... Dr. Nicolson presents the theory that experimental weaponized delivery of organisms has caused an onslaught of chronic diseases.

See this video, Dr. Garth Nicolson - Weaponized Mycoplasmas 58:27

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There are Antibiotic Protocols for chronic illnesses which will cure or put into remission many illnesses. Including lyme disease.  See this site to locate a doctor:  Look for doctor: Antibiotic protocols

Mycoplasma Is An Overlooked Lyme Co-Infection
Notes from video,  Dr. Garth Nicolson - Weaponized Mycoplasmas
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Cancer, AIDS, Weaponized Mycoplasmas & Gulf War Illness. Prof. Garth Nicolson's hypothesis is straightforward: "The emergence of new illnesses and an increase in the incidence rate of previously described signs & symptoms are due to our toxic environment & the purposeful development & testing of Weapons of Mass Destruction." Dr. Nicolson heads the Institute for Molecular Medicine. He spoke at the 9th Common Cause Medical Research Foundation Conference, Sudbury, Ontario, Canada on Aug. 29-31, 2008.
This video was produced by Snowshoe Documentary Films, a great alternative to corporate media at They produce, and show on their site, documentaries for Social and Economic Justice
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2018, 02:45:04 PM »
In support of the theory of weaponized mycoplasmas mentioned in the previous post, this link examines a mainstream news article dated yesterday, which states that a coordinated nation-wide study of ticks has discovered that ticks do not pick up the Lyme bacteria during their lifetime - they are born with it, further suggesting that Lyme may have been created in a lab.

@ around 19:47 in the paragraph that begins with "The massive nationwide study also provides evidence..."

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Artimisia annua, also known in the US as "Sweet Annie" wormwood, is listed as an herb which helps conditions such as arthritis, lupus and lyme disease, as well as malaria.


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Not promoting any certain company there are several online who will do at home tests for Lyme and some also specifically have the borrelia test.

On this site, the tests go as low as $85. - Yowbarb
The last one listed below is  $375+

$128 Lyme Disease Blood Test, Western Blot Blood  $128

Lyme Disease, Borrelia burgdorferi C6 Antigen With Reflex to Western Blot Blood Test   $375
Aid in the diagnosis of acute and later stages of infections by Borrelia burgdorferi, the spirochete associated with Lyme disease.


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Although this is not a suggestion, it is being posted here for informational purposes, as it relates to Lyme Disease.

A woman who tripped for 34 hours on LSD after taking 550 times the normal dose said it cured her Lyme disease (Julia Naftulin)
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During the first 12 hours, the woman blacked out for most of it, but remembered vomiting a lot.
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   •   A woman overdosed, but didn't die, after consuming 550 times an average dose of the psychedelic drug LSD. She had mistaken it as cocaine and ended up tripping for 34 hours.

   •   Following her overdose, the woman microdosed LSD and found it eliminated her chronic pain, a symptom of her Lyme disease.

   •   Other psychedelics like DMT and psilocybin also have been shown to manage conditions, like anxiety and depression.

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A 46-year-old woman went on the trip of a lifetime when she accidentally mistook the psychedelic drug LSD for cocaine, snorted 550 times an average dose of the drug, and experienced a 34-hour period of being high.
According to the case report, which was co-authored by psychedelic researcher Mark Haden and examined three recent LSD overdose cases, the woman, who had chronic Lyme disease, started tripping 15 minutes after snorting white powder she believed to be cocaine.
When she didn't have the reaction she thought she would, she asked her roommate about the drug and was told it was actually LSD — 55 milligrams, to be exact. The average LSD dose for an approximately 12-hour trip is 10 milligrams.
The woman ended up tripping on LSD for 34 hours, but lived to tell the tale of her 2015 trip to Haden. Although it was a staggering amount, he wasn't surprised she survived: according to the Drug Policy Alliance, there has never been a recorded LSD overdose that's resulted in death.
She said during the first 12 hours, she blacked out for most of it, but remembered vomiting a lot. Once that period passed, the woman said she had a 10-hour period where she felt "pleasantly high" while sitting in a chair. During that time, she was also "frothing at the mouth, occasionally vocalizing random words and vomiting frequently," according to the report.
Another 10 hours later, the LSD finally wore off and the woman had a surprising reaction: the chronic pain she'd experienced due to her Lyme disease, for which she'd been using morphine daily for seven years, had gone away completely. She didn't feel the need to reach for the opioid, and she also said she didn't notice any morphine withdrawal symptoms, which would be expected, like nausea, depression, anxiety, and drug cravings.
The woman started to microdose LSD to manage her pain
Following her overdose, the woman decided to keep using LSD to manage her pain, but in smaller amounts.
She'd stopped taking morphine for five days after her LSD experience, and then her chronic pain returned, so she decided to take the morphine again but at a lower dose, and to also microdose LSD, every three days. A microdose of LSD is about a quarter of the typical 10-milligram dose and doesn't cause a hallucinogenic effect.
Three years later, the woman was able to completely stop using morphine to manage her pain and said she had no withdrawal symptoms.
According to Haden, this finding was surprising because, as he told Vice, he'd "heard somebody say that he thought LSD would be good for withdrawals, but I've never seen any evidence of it," he said.
Researchers believe psychedelics drugs could help with a variety of conditions, including depression and anxiety
Previous studies have suggested other psychedelic drugs like DMT, when microdosed, and psilocybin, when taken at a regular dose, could also help with symptoms of difficult-to-treat conditions like anxiety and depression.
A small study, published in November 2016 in the Journal of Psychopharmacology, looked at 29 cancer patients who reported feeling depressed or anxious due to their cancer diagnosis. For seven weeks, each patient went through psychotherapy sessions and received either a single 0.3 mg dose of psilocybin or niacin (vitamin B) afterward. Researchers noticed that the patients who received psilocybin had an immediate reduction in anxiety and depression, which held at the six-and-a-half-month follow-up.
In another small study, published in 2006 in the Journal of Psychopharmacology, researchers gave 36 medically and psychiatrically healthy participants 30 mg of psilocybin. At a two-month follow-up, 50% of the participants said their psilocybin experience improved their personal well being or life satisfaction moderately and 29% said it improved their life satisfaction "very much." 
And a March 2019 study done on rats found that those who were given microdoses of DMT appeared less anxious than their non-microdosing counterparts.
"If you eliminate [psychedelic drugs'] effects on perception, there is no need or reason to abuse them, which could help with creating a medicinal product," Dr. David Olson, lead author of the study and assistant professor in the UC Davis departments of Chemistry, Biochemistry, and Molecular Medicine, previously told Insider about the potential therapeutic benefits of microdosing.
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   •   Mike Tyson smoked a drug derived from toad venom. Here's what to know about the psychedelic that he says makes you feel like 'you die and you're reborn.'

   •   Parents have started using LSD and 'magic' mushrooms because they say it helps them be more present with their kids

   •   YouTube star Logan Paul paid $1 million for a ranch that used to manufacture LSD. Here's a look at the property.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2020, 07:46:46 PM »
Some people who study Morgellons have found  a connection (in some people) with Lyme Disease... will post links sometime soon...
There are online tests for Lyme. I imagine most doctors are pigheaded about ordering such tests...


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