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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #180 on: April 17, 2020, 05:16:29 AM »
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Barb Note: The food processing plants have been slow to shut down due to the strong possibility of food shortages... but some have voluntarily shut down to get control of the situation, clean up etc. Shortages of meat and other animal based foods are predicted. No data or proof so far, of the virus being transmitted from the meat...

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    https://apnews.com/0cd7680d2d221944ed05f86691bb3537
    Smithfield closes South Dakota pork plant due to coronavirus

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    Smithfield announced a three-day closure last week so it could sanitize the plant and install physical barriers to enhance social distancing. But on Sunday, it announced the plant’s indefinite closure.

    “The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply,” Smithfield president and CEO Kenneth Sullivan said in a statement. “It is impossible to keep our grocery stores stocked if our plants are not running. These facility closures will also have severe, perhaps disastrous, repercussions for many in the supply chain, first and foremost our nation’s livestock farmers.The Sioux Falls facility is one of the largest pork processing plants in the U.S., Smithfield said. It supplies nearly 130 million servings of food per week, or about 18 million servings per day.

    There has been no evidence that the coronavirus is being transmitted through food or its packaging, according to the Department of Agriculture.

    Other meat processing plants have also closed temporarily because of outbreaks of the coronavirus, including a Tyson Foods facility in Columbus Junction, Iowa, where more than two dozen employees tested positive.

This might be an opportune time to:

1. Get a chest freezer for home if you don't already have one

2. Get an extra one if you have room for a spare

3. Or check your immediate community for a rental freezer locker (some of the Amish farms have them running off-grid on propane for a very small annual fee)

4. Look for meat sales and scrape funds together to fill chest freezer / locker.

5. Become a vegan  ;)

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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #181 on: April 17, 2020, 04:47:55 PM »
The Governor of FL, Republican Ron DeSantis, opened up some beaches in florida. here are some reasons why this was not a bright idea:

"...In her research, Prather has found that the ocean churns up all kinds of particulate and microscopic pathogens, and every time the ocean sneezes with a big wave or two, it sprays these particles into the air. She believes that this new coronavirus is light enough to float through the air much farther than we think. The six-feet physical distancing rule, she said, doesn’t apply at the beach, where coastal winds can get quite strong and send viral particles soaring.
“It’s not going to kill you if you miss a few surfing sessions, but it could if you go out there and get in the wrong air,” she said.
“You can’t see the virus, you can’t smell it ... It’s a real silent killer right now.” "Coronaviruses are encased by what she calls a “hydrophobic” lipid, or fatty, membrane. Fat tends to float to the surface of water, similar to oil in a vinaigrette dressing. When waves break in the surf zone and all the foam and bubbles pop, Prather said, “all that stuff — the viruses, the bacteria, pollutants, all the gooey, oily stuff — just launches into the air.”
The ocean, in fact, is the largest natural source of aerosol particles after dust.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-02/coronavirus-ocean-swimming-surfing-safe-beaches-los-angeles

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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #182 on: April 17, 2020, 04:49:44 PM »
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Barb Note: The food processing plants have been slow to shut down due to the strong possibility of food shortages... but some have voluntarily shut down to get control of the situation, clean up etc. Shortages of meat and other animal based foods are predicted. No data or proof so far, of the virus being transmitted from the meat...

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    https://apnews.com/0cd7680d2d221944ed05f86691bb3537
    Smithfield closes South Dakota pork plant due to coronavirus

    Continued:

    Smithfield announced a three-day closure last week so it could sanitize the plant and install physical barriers to enhance social distancing. But on Sunday, it announced the plant’s indefinite closure.

    “The closure of this facility, combined with a growing list of other protein plants that have shuttered across our industry, is pushing our country perilously close to the edge in terms of our meat supply,” Smithfield president and CEO Kenneth Sullivan said in a statement. “It is impossible to keep our grocery stores stocked if our plants are not running. These facility closures will also have severe, perhaps disastrous, repercussions for many in the supply chain, first and foremost our nation’s livestock farmers.The Sioux Falls facility is one of the largest pork processing plants in the U.S., Smithfield said. It supplies nearly 130 million servings of food per week, or about 18 million servings per day.

    There has been no evidence that the coronavirus is being transmitted through food or its packaging, according to the Department of Agriculture.

    Other meat processing plants have also closed temporarily because of outbreaks of the coronavirus, including a Tyson Foods facility in Columbus Junction, Iowa, where more than two dozen employees tested positive.

This might be an opportune time to:

1. Get a chest freezer for home if you don't already have one

2. Get an extra one if you have room for a spare

3. Or check your immediate community for a rental freezer locker (some of the Amish farms have them running off-grid on propane for a very small annual fee)

4. Look for meat sales and scrape funds together to fill chest freezer / locker.

5. Become a vegan  ;)


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RR, excellent ideas.
Thank you,
Barb T.

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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #183 on: April 17, 2020, 07:08:48 PM »
The Governor of FL, Republican Ron DeSantis, opened up some beaches in florida. here are some reasons why this was not a bright idea:
.....“.....You can’t see the virus, you can’t smell it ... It’s a real silent killer right now.” "Coronaviruses are encased by what she calls a “hydrophobic” lipid, or fatty, membrane. Fat tends to float to the surface of water, similar to oil in a vinaigrette dressing. When waves break in the surf zone and all the foam and bubbles pop, Prather said, “all that stuff — the viruses, the bacteria, pollutants, all the gooey, oily stuff — just launches into the air.”
The ocean, in fact, is the largest natural source of aerosol particles after dust.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-02/coronavirus-ocean-swimming-surfing-safe-beaches-los-angeles
Thanks for posting this eye-opener!

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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #184 on: April 17, 2020, 07:10:49 PM »
This might be an opportune time to:

1. Get a chest freezer for home if you don't already have one

2. Get an extra one if you have room for a spare

3. Or check your immediate community for a rental freezer locker (some of the Amish farms have them running off-grid on propane for a very small annual fee)

4. Look for meat sales and scrape funds together to fill chest freezer / locker.

5. Become a vegan  ;)
Excellent ideas, especially #'s 1 nd 2.

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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #185 on: April 18, 2020, 01:58:56 AM »
The Governor of FL, Republican Ron DeSantis, opened up some beaches in florida. here are some reasons why this was not a bright idea:
.....“.....You can’t see the virus, you can’t smell it ... It’s a real silent killer right now.” "Coronaviruses are encased by what she calls a “hydrophobic” lipid, or fatty, membrane. Fat tends to float to the surface of water, similar to oil in a vinaigrette dressing. When waves break in the surf zone and all the foam and bubbles pop, Prather said, “all that stuff — the viruses, the bacteria, pollutants, all the gooey, oily stuff — just launches into the air.”
The ocean, in fact, is the largest natural source of aerosol particles after dust.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-04-02/coronavirus-ocean-swimming-surfing-safe-beaches-los-angeles
Thanks for posting this eye-opener!

Thanks, ilinda. I realize there is not a lot of agreement on the beach thing now. A lot of people are restless and impatient for things to open up. Not a great idea yet. What a lot of people do not realize is, if they are careless, frolicking ont he beach, congregating in groups, demonstrating to have the stay at home orders lifted they are almost certainly helping the spread of the virus. They could cause it to be spread to the most vulnerable, the old people in homes who are being struck down by the COVID 19. Could be their own parents or grandparents who gets it, spread through their carelessness. It spreads so fast in nursing homes. Just because people do not see dead bodies on their street doesn't mean this situation is not real. There are still hundreds per day dying and in some nursing homes they have a problem trying to keep them all cold long enough to have them taken away. When people drive past a major hospital or a nursing home all apears quiet. They are not inside, and would not be let inside. People are dying in there. Meanwhile people spread disinformation about how the numbers are inflated. Well that is not helping...

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« Reply #186 on: April 18, 2020, 07:02:28 AM »
Many years ago i heard Atom Bergstrom tell of one of the things doctors and researchers had learned long ago, before the last 60 years of (what he calls) medical amnesia [i.e. everything learned in the past centuries has been thrown to the side in favor of the pharmaceutical antibiotic model].

If places like hospitals would just keep the humidity at exactly 50%, it would be impossible for bacteria and viruses to flourish there.
Personally, i have but one experience with hospitals and it was a disastrous one [leaving me with 100% bad experience rate...]. Though i wouldn't call my wife catching meningitis and pneumonia "bad"; more like: "a major clusterfewk"...
Of course hospitals are money-making institutes, not healing houses. The world blames the virus but if you leave a child in a forest with a box of matches and the forest burns down, then what caused the forest to burn down? It wasn't the matches. You should be talking about parents then. And if insane animal husbandry and other 'modern' agricultural practices lead to massive disease [to the point that all conventional farmers have no choice but to douse their animals with antibiotics as a matter of course] and a disease breaks out, the virus was not the cause. It's the insane agricultural practices.
But of course nobody's talking about that, just like no one's talking about the level of humidity in old folks' homes, prisons, schools or hospitals.
That's all i have to say about this wholly unnecessary global pandemic and governmental choices.
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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #187 on: April 18, 2020, 09:14:29 AM »
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I totally agree that we need to recover much of the past knowledge cast aside in favor of the pharma model.  That came into vogue, as you know, when penicillin was discovered to be a "silver bullet" (and big money maker), and then silver bullets became the standard expectation of medicine.  Only problem was that they are few and far between (and based in part on luck, as when the penicillium mold was discovered to be antibacterial).  Interestingly, when simple natural medicines are researched, we often find a paper published on it or book entry as far back as the 1800s or early 1900s, if not further, and then a decades-long gap in the body of professional research literature until around the 21st Century when it was "rediscovered."

The opposite of the pharma model, of course, is the lifelong self-care model in which one eats carefully and uses natural medicines at hand - but there's no money to be made in that at the medical end, and dare we say it, there's no focused personal attention to be had at the lonely patient's end.  There was sort of an expectation on the part of my parents' generation that medical personnel were sort of paid friends, much like the hairdresser, barber, and every sales person who called on the phone - lots of chatting way beyond the point of the visit.  The unstated contract between physician and patient seems to be, "I will submit to your authority over me if you make me the center of your attention."  Though the actual health outcome is not always optimal in such a contractual relationship, there is a half-hidden win-win if one looks for it.  But I'm a cynic!  :)

That having been said, I do have a female Amish physician (a fully licensed M.D.) whom I rarely visit, and am always astonished at the energy transfer when she and her entire staff lay hands on me and pray.  She is accessing perhaps not only a divine Something / Someone, but perhaps also "something" inside of each patient capable of healing him or herself.

But back to your comment about the humidity level, agreed, and what will we ever do without modern climate control once the power goes out for more than a few hours?

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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #188 on: April 20, 2020, 08:40:40 AM »
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« Reply #189 on: April 20, 2020, 11:25:38 AM »
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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #190 on: April 20, 2020, 05:05:18 PM »
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This is a more recently updated website than the one I've been posting from.
According to my arithmetic it is close to 7% ( 0.0687 death rate among known cases, worldwide.) This # will eventually change and be more accurate in future months when more testing is done.

US: Approx death rate among known cases 5%


https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/  WORLD

Coronavirus Cases:             2,479,667
view by country
Deaths:                                 170,363
Recovered:
                                            645,810                                 
...
According to my arithmetic the approx death rate among known cases in the US is 5%. I divided the number of known deaths by the number of known cases to get the decimal number. converted to a %. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/  US 

Coronavirus Cases:       792,735
Deaths:                         42,507
Recovered:                    71,951


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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #191 on: April 20, 2020, 08:38:09 PM »
Re: Social distancing:
..... So many of the boys' friends and acquaintances their age have committed suicide in the past few years, that I feel it necessary to care for their spirits first and everything else second, if we are to have representatives of that generation with us in the Aftertime...
What a sad announcement about your sons' friends and acquaintances.  The future must really look hopeless to the young.  At least you are trying to make a difference!

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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #192 on: April 21, 2020, 01:11:01 PM »
Jon Keen of Best Damn Podcast notes that we are entering the thicker part of the Px system debris tail now, and blames the iron oxide dust fallout hitting earth for the coronavirus, saying that iron oxide dust poisoning symptoms and COVID19 symptoms match up (hence a possible reason for the global use of dust masks at this time, rather than hospital masks?):

« Last Edit: April 25, 2020, 03:52:33 PM by R.R. Book »

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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #193 on: April 21, 2020, 02:52:09 PM »
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Yowbarb Note:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

US Cases today:  815,491  US Cases yesterday:     792,759   22,732‬

US Deaths today: 45,097   US Deaths yesterday:     42,514    +1,939    
 
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Re: Coronavirus has been declared a global pandemic
« Reply #194 on: April 22, 2020, 10:48:33 AM »
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Yowbarb Note, update to this BBC article the latest known US death total is  46,149 from Covid 19.

8 hours ago


Coronavirus: US health official warns of dangerous second wave

A second wave of coronavirus cases in the US could be even worse than the first, the country's top health official has warned.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) director Robert Redfield said the danger was higher as a fresh outbreak would likely coincide with the flu season.

It would put "unimaginable strain" on the US health care system, he said.

The US has seen more than 800,000 cases - the highest in the world.

More than 45,000 people have so far died with coronavirus across the US, according to a tally kept by Johns Hopkins University.

California had its highest one-day rise in new cases on Monday while New Jersey, the worst-hit US state apart from New York, saw its highest increase in deaths in one day.

In other developments in the US:

President Trump says he will halt applications for US green cards - which give immigrants legal permanent residence and the opportunity to apply for American citizenship - for 60 days
Harvard University says it will keep an $8.6m-coronavirus grant despite pressure from President Trump to return it
California's first cases of coronavirus occurred much earlier than previously thought, health officials have confirmed. A post-mortem examination has revealed that a person who died at home on 6 February in Santa Clara county is now the first known fatality in the US. Until now, the first fatality was thought to have been a man in Washington state who died on 26 February
The US Senate has unanimously approved $484bn (£392bn) in coronavirus relief, including funds designed to help small businesses. The legislation will go to the House of Representatives for approval on Thursday
In an interview with the Washington Post, Mr Redfield said that "there's a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through".

He urged officials in the US to prepare for the possibility of having to confront a flu and a coronavirus epidemic at the same time.

'Really, really difficult'....
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