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ilinda

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« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2017, 04:57:03 PM »
Ended up getting Felco products from Pruner Warehouse, both the diamond-coated canoe-shaped coarse grit whetstone and companion stone that does medium and fine. Both for under $40 with free shipping.




Both look good but I'm fairly ignorant of sharpening stones, so even having one (for me) is better than none.  You can switch back and forth if needed.  I keep my stone wet while scything and sharpen every few minutes.  The thing I really need to do (am overdue) is peen the grass scythe.  Probably doesn't take long, but needs to help keep blade from deteriorating after nicks, etc.

The diamond-coating will probably help your stones outlive all the others.

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« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2017, 05:19:09 PM »
It's good to know to keep it wet and to sharpen the blade every few minutes - I didn't know that.  I've only used the scythe once, just to try it out, and found that it got dull pretty quickly, but I was cutting grass over the drainage field in the back that hadn't been cut all season :)

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« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2017, 05:39:25 PM »
It's good to know to keep it wet and to sharpen the blade every few minutes - I didn't know that.  I've only used the scythe once, just to try it out, and found that it got dull pretty quickly, but I was cutting grass over the drainage field in the back that hadn't been cut all season :)
In one youtube video on how to scythe, this guy carried his stone in a holder attached to his belt or belt buckle.  But he appeared to be quite tall, and didn't appear to bend over much, but if I tried that, the water would slop out early on.  I just carry the stone in a water-filled holder and hang it on something nearby.

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« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2017, 07:00:26 PM »
Thanks for the tip Ilinda - I'll try that out and report back!

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« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2018, 02:54:05 PM »
Here's a summary from Soc's .pdf of The Lost Ways II on the correct method of sharpening a blade with a whetstone (Ilinda might be able to add to this):

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To use the wet stones properly you need to soak them for at least 20 minutes. This will allow the water to permeate. It will be this water and the coarse grain that allows the knife to slide easily over the stone. I like to pour some water directly on the stone as well for lubrication.

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Get a Grip
Depending on the size of your blade and handle you may want to bolster your grip. This may seem important for large blades like katanas but it can also be very important when sharpening small blades. Theses knives usually have small handles that can be tough to bear down on. Don’t slip and cut yourself!

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Follow the Given Path
Before you begin sharpening you should observe the blade and take note of its natural curvature. Your movements over the stone must match the proper angle and follow the curve of the blade as well. Remember, any part of the blade that doesn’t touch the stone will not be sharpened.

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...the first stage of sharpening... the coarsest stone you have should be used first. This portion of sharpening is for refining the once impressive shape of a worn blade. You can also use this coarse stone to remove any nicks and grooves

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100 Strokes
Work each stone for 100 strokes on each side of the blade. After you have done this move to the less coarse stone. It takes a lot to bring back the razor edge by hand.
Pay attention to each stroke and follow that natural path of the blade.

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...utilize the fine grit sandpaper to really bring out the tempering line. You will work the sandpaper back and for the to define this tempering line.
On smaller knives this will be a challenge and you should hold the sandpaper with a cloth so if the blade cuts through it doesn’t cut you in the process.

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Polish
Use your sharpening oil and the residual grit from the process to polish the whole blade. My blade will require lots of polishing because it is pretty beat-up. You will see the payoff in the end.

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Finish
Buff your blade with a ball of wax to finish the blade and wipe the entire knife down removing any residual dirt.

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Sharpening knives is one of those tasks that struggles against the tide of technology and time. Though, if you set aside the time to do an excellent job it’s an entrancing and rewarding process.

Image taken from https://gearjunkie.com/how-to-sharpen-knife-whetstone






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« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2018, 03:40:50 PM »
Quite interesting thanks for posting!

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« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2018, 03:51:49 PM »
Sharpening your knife without a sharpener: 5 alternatives that really work

http://bugout.news/2018-02-08-sharpening-your-knife-without-a-sharpener-5-alternatives-that-really-work.html

Sharpening your knife without a sharpener: 5 alternatives that really work
Thursday, February 08, 2018 by Jhoanna Robinson

A dull knife can pose a greater danger than a sharp one. However, sharpening a knife can be troublesome for most of us, since we either don’t have the right tools or don’t have the necessary skills to make it happen. Fortunately, we’re here to present you with five materials to help you sharpen a knife — even without a whetstone.

Ceramic – The first proper way to sharpen a knife if you don’t have a whetstone is to use a piece of ceramic to sharpen the blade with. Most mugs are made of ceramic, so using mugs to sharpen your knife is possible. The ceramic can be used in place of sharpeners and whetstone: just utilize the ceramic the way you would typically use a regular sharpener, making three cuts both ways at a consistent angle.

Glass – Another household item that you can use to sharpen your knife with is glass. Use the top of a car window or the top of a glass cup to do so. Make the same motions that you did the ceramic when sharpening your knife, making three cuts each way at a consistent angle until such time that the blade is already sharp.

Steel – A third material that you can use to sharpen your knife is steel, which is a material that a knife and other cutlery are made of. You have to worry about the hardness of the steel, though. The steel on the makeshift sharpener has to be stronger than the steel on the knife that you are sharpening; otherwise, the whole exercise is pointless. Use the Rockwell scale to measure the hardness of steel on both knives.

Sandpaper – A fourth material that can be used in this endeavor is the sandpaper. This material can be relied on if you need something rougher than steel or ceramic. To sharpen your blade, hold the paper flat, and use the paper as your sharpening stone.

Concrete – Finally, another material that you can use to sharpen your knife with is concrete. An important thing to remember when using concrete as a sharpening tool is that it has to be relatively smooth without any clutter. You can try wetting the surface of the concrete; if you don’t want to, that’s fine. Using concrete to sharpen your knife with should be done as a last resort case as doing so has the possibility of damaging the quality of your blade.

Max.
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« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2018, 04:42:52 PM »
Lots of good alternatives Max - Thanks!  :)

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« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2018, 06:13:10 PM »
The only thing I could add to #34 is that the instructions with either my scythe or my stone said to hold the blade to be sharpened against the stone at a 23 degree angle.  Probably nobody is going to actually measure the angle, but with that number in mind, one could probably closely estimate 23 degrees.

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« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2018, 06:56:09 PM »
If 90 degrees is perpendicular, then 23 would be close to a quarter of that, so a pretty acute angle - Thanks Ilinda!

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