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Re: Survival List Example
« Reply #60 on: May 03, 2018, 02:42:18 PM »
I find some sci-fi to be depressing, but it does tend to open our minds and warn us to what may become trends in the future, such as Bradbury's and Orwell's writing do.  I loved the original Star Trek series though, and have often fallen back upon those storylines to comprehend current and future events.  Also enjoyed the White Mountains trilogy and Tolkien.  My sons never got into those books and films, so I never pushed them in that direction, other than to make them aware of the warnings embedded in the fiction.  :)
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Re: Survival library
« Reply #61 on: May 03, 2018, 09:03:59 PM »
understand there are many novels in my library. I have taken to heart warnings about people getting bored. Remember the days when good movies were few and far between? When there was nothing to watch on TV? No YouTube?
If we've years without such entertainment ahead of us, limited choice in novels will quickly become boring.

I've never actually sold anything through Ebay and the few bucks it might offer in sales hardly seems worth the trouble. Maybe some day, though. Just some sci-fi anyway, though good books for sure. Of course if one doesn't appreciate scifi, one will not appreciate my 31 Alan Dean Fosters, my 21 Philip K Dick, my Heinleins, Asimovs, Herberts, etc. ... ;-)

Socrates, what an excellent collection.
What a good idea to create a real survival library...
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library; quality over quantity [but...]
« Reply #62 on: May 09, 2018, 08:46:09 AM »
I find some sci-fi to be depressing
As with any field of knowledge, it takes those with experience to recon the field for you.
For instance, i know just-about-nothing of jazz, but i recognize that there must be much worthwhile jazz about. Unfortunately, i have neither time nor inclination to work my way through a century of jazz...
Similarly, there are scifi classics, good scifi and mediocre scifi; i mentioned a few trustworthy authors and that's because i know quality is often based on author. For instance, i once read The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant; broad in scope, detailed and well written. Also: utterly depressing...! So, yeah, not in my library. Therefore, i avoid anything by Stephen R. Donaldson like the plague. [btw, more fantasy than scifi, but same principle.]

There's much wondeful scifi out there; for instance, i've never run into a Heinlein novel that was not amazing. So anything Heinlein goes.
Same with Alan Dean Foster [another prolific writer]; hence my collection of 31 of his. That he also wrote both Alien and Star Trek novels is just bonus.
Maybe it's just been about luck; yeah, i've read a few bad scifi novels in my time, but largely my experience has been opportune. Hence [perhaps] my love for the genre.


Talking about a survival library, there are a number of considerations, like:
- what does it say about our time?
- entertainment value
- quality [duh]
- what about the trappings of our time?
- what about the promises of our time?

For instance, i've a great love for the novels of both Michael Crighton and James Michener; both put vast amounts of research into making their novels. Therefore, just reading their work is both inspirational as well as educational. Such a nice way of becoming informed (as far as i'm concerned). Hence, i've acquired all the Crighton and Michener i could (affordably) get my hands on. Michener is more historical while Crighton is more philosophical and technical [though sometimes also quite historical, as his first novel suggests The Eaters of the Dead/The 13th Warrior [not for nothing have many of his books been made into movies].
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Re: Survival List Example
« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2018, 05:59:01 PM »
Didn't Crighton also write A Case of Need many, many years ago?  I had thought it must have been one of his first.

As for sci-fi, I've loved it for most of my life, but must admit there's a lot of "fluff" sci-fi written, IMHO, by wannabe sci-fi authors.   But some is so good that it will "take you away from here" and, while you read, you will forget to eat, drink, and sleep.

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Re: Survival List Example
« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2018, 04:15:18 AM »
Crichton was indeed the author of A Case of Need.  My favorite novel of his was The Andromeda Strain. 

It wasn't long after that novel was written, in which scientists had overlooked the importance of pH, that it was discovered that pH was an important factor in preventing and fighting cancer in alternative medicine.


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10 best preservable foods [Mojo]
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2018, 06:09:50 AM »
In this Mojo top 10 list of foods that can be preserved for the longest time, from 10 to 1:
dried pasta
pemmican
ghee
hardtack
hard cheese in wax
hard liquor
white rice
dried beans
powdered milk
[honorary mentions:] grits, instant coffee, bouillon cubes
honey


I say: honey... duh;
hard cheese is a pleasant surprise; with some mustard [seeds, people!] and/or beer... [sigh];
liquor; i've said it before: to take the edge off...;
ghee, dried pasta & powdered milk: surprising
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Re: Survival List Example
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2018, 07:32:44 AM »
Good list Socrates!

How about also un-popped popcorn, powdered cheese, powdered butter, fruit leather, cocoa mix, veggie burger mix, hard wheat, powdered smoothie mix, instant pudding mix, powdered eggs, dehydrated lemon juice packets, powdered soup mixes...

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Re: Survival List Example
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2018, 02:33:12 PM »
Can't add much to both of your lists, Soc, and RR, but crystalized honey would be one.  Not sure if it WILL last longer than honey, but it is basically honey that has lost most of its moisture and turned to sugar, although different from conventional "white sugar" that dead stuff that contains no vitamins, minerals or other nutrition.

Maple sugar would be another.

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Re: Sugar
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2018, 09:30:08 PM »
Regular white sugar will probably keep forever since it is after all a very refined product [chemical substance, really]. Probably also not on Mojo's list since it is technically not a 'food'.
Having said that, i've mentioned before that it would be good to stock up on sugar since it's dead cheap, weighs relatively little and a sugar cube in a pinch could mean the difference between being able to outrun a zombie yea or nea.  ;D

I think all good honey crystalizes at some point and that we are therefore essentially talking about the same thing. And if honey keeps forever [i.e. according to this Mojo list and many other sources], there's no adding to that anyway. Also, unlike refined sugar, honey should be considered a food [i have also mentioned before that Buhner in his book on 'beers' & 'wines' offers a list of folk that have lived to be 150 years old on a diet of hive products].
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