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Title: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on August 24, 2011, 08:31:42 AM
Hi All. Although we do have one Hopi Prophecy Topic and other NA Prophecy Topics, here is the one specifically
for the Blue Kachina and the RED Kachina.
I will be posting here all I can find on these prophecies, feel free to join in on the discussion.
Please see: Marshall Master's latest video which does mention the Hopi Prophecy of the Blue Kachina and the Red Kachina,
Yowbarb

YOUTUBE VIDEO
http://youtu.be/oioVNsVfYjI
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on August 24, 2011, 08:40:47 AM
'scuse it, Joe Montanna you may have already posted this somewhere in your Hopi Topic. This site states that the Hopi name for Sirius is the Blue Kachina but the theory has been put forth, the Blue Kachina may be the Comet Elenin.  See Marshall's video.  - Yowbarb
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http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html   Crystal links site,

Hopi Elders pass warnings and prophecies from generation to generation
through oral traditions and reference to ancient rock pictographs and tablets.

Hopi Blue Star or Blue Kachina Prophecy

An ancient Hopi Indian prophecy states, "When the Blue Star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge". This will be the Day of Purification. The Hopi name for the star Sirius is Blue Star Kachina. It will come when the Saquasohuh (Blue Star) Kachina dances in the plaza and removes his mask.

[ Crystallinks Note: Reality is a metaphor in which we quest to find answers to the greater truth of who we are and why we are here. Something in our souls tells us that change is happening on a global consciousness level. The blue frequency is part of that. Sirius is Isis - Return to the feminine of higher frequency energies - Rebirth of Consciousness. Blue links to higher/future frequencies of consciousness as we spiral up through the patterns of Sacred Geometry. Blue - electricity - our reality as an electromagnetic energy grid program. Blue: Indigo children, the blue alien lady, Isis, the Pleiades, Sirius, blue galaxies, blue chakra, blue ray and ascended master, and much more that will come 'out of the blue'. Use search engine to discover more about 'blue'.]

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Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on August 24, 2011, 09:26:41 AM
Here is an article on the Blue Kachina Prophecy, The Red Kachina Prophecy and a photo of the old Hopi Chief
and his writings.
I have highlighted in blue the Blue Kachina, the Red in red.
- Yowbarb

IMAGE: HOPI CHIEF DAN EVAHEMA

Hopi Chief Dan Evahema, died January, 1999
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https://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/tag/blue-red-kachina/
 
The following is an excerpt from LAST CRY Native American Prophecies & Tales of the End Times, by Dr. Robert Ghost Wolf © 1994-2004. It has appeared in numerous articles over the web, and in magazines all over the world.

“The story of the Blue Kachina is a very old story, very old. I have been aware of the story of the Blue Kachina since I was very young. I was told this story by grandfathers who are now between 80 and 108 years of age. Frank Waters also wrote about Saquasohuh, the Blue Star Kachina in The Book of the Hopi. The story came from Grandfather Dan, Oldest Hopi.

[Photo: Hopi Chief Dan Evahema, died January, 1999]

“It was told to me that first the Blue Kachina would start to be seen at the dances, and would make his appearance known to the children in the plaza during the night dance. This event would tell us that the end times are very near. Then the Blue Star Kachina would physically appear in our heavens which would mean that we were in the end times.
“In the Final days we will look up in our heavens and we will witness the return of the two brothers who helped create this world in the birthing time. Poganghoya is the guardian of our North Pole and his Brother Palongawhoya is the guardian of the South pole. In the final days the Blue Star Kachina will come to be with his nephews and they will return the Earth to its natural rotation which is counter clock wise.

“This fact is evidenced in many petraglyphs that speak of the Zodiac, and within the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids. The rotation of the Earth has been manipulated by not so benevolent Star beings . The twins will be seen in our North Western skies. They will come and visit to see who still remembered the original teachings flying in their Patuwvotas, or flying shields. They will bring many of their star family with them in the final days.

“The return of the Blue Star Kachina who is also known as Nan ga sohu will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and new way of life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.

“Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier The Red Kachina, who will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth, her creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways.

“The messages will be found written in the living stone, through the sacred grains, and even the waters. (Crop Circles have been found in ice) From the Purifier will issue forth a great Red Light. All things will change in their manner of being. Every living thing will be offered the opportunity to change from the largest to the smallest thing.
“Those who return to the ways given to us in the original teachings, and live a natural way of life will not be touched by the coming of the Purifier. They will survive and build the new world. Only in the ancient teachings will the ability to understand the messages be found.

“It is important to understand that these messages will be found upon every living thing, even within our bodies, even within a drop of our blood. All life forms will receive the messages from the twins.. those that fly, the plants, even the rabbit. The appearance of the twins begins a period of seven years will be our final opportunity to change our ways. Everything we experience is all a matter of choice.

“Many will appear to have lost their souls in these final days. So intense will the nature of the changes be that those who are weak in spiritual awareness will go insane, for we are nothing without spirit. They will disappear, for they are just hollow vessels for any thing to use. Life will be so bad in the cities that many will choose to leave this plane. Some in whole groups.

“Only those who return to the values of the old ways will be able to find peace of mind. For in the Earth we shall find relief from the madness that will be all around us. It will be a very hard time for women with children for they will be shunned, and many of the children in these times will be unnatural. Some being from the Stars some from past worlds, some will even be created by man in an unnatural manner and will be soulless. Many of people in this time will be empty in Spirit they will have Sampacu. No life force in their eyes.

“As we get close to the time of arrival the Purifier there will be those who walk as ghosts through the cities, through canyons they will have constructed in their man made mountains. Those that walk through these places will be very heavy in their walk, it will appear almost painful as they take each step for they will be disconnected from their spirit and the Earth.

“After the arrival of the twins, they will begin to vanish before your eyes like so much smoke. Others will have great deformities, both in the mind and upon their bodies. There will be those who would walk in the body that are not from this reality, for many of the gateways that once protected us will be opened, there will be much confusion. Confusion between sexes, and children and their elders.

“Life will get very perverted, and there will be little social order, in these times Many will ask for the mountains themselves to fall upon them just to end their misery. Still others will appear as if untouched by what is occurring. The ones who remember the original teachings and have reconnected their hearts and spirit. Those who remember who their mother and father is. The Pahana who have left to live in the Mountains and forest.

“When the Purifier comes we will see him first as a small Red Star which will come very close and sit in our heavens watching us. Watching us to see how well we have remembered the sacred teachings.

“This Purifier will show us many miraculous signs in our heavens In this way we will know Creator is not a dream. Even those who do not feel their connection to spirit will see the face of creator across the sky. Things unseen will be felt very strongly.

“Many things will begin to occur that will not make sense, for reality will be shifting back in and out of the dream state. There will be many doorways to the lower world that will open at this time. Things long forgotten will come back to remind us of our past creations. All living things will want to be present for this day when time ends, and we enter the forever cycle of the Fifth World.

“We will receive many warnings allowing us to change our ways from below the Earth as well as above. Then one morning in a moment. We will awaken to the Red Dawn. The sky will be the color of blood, many things will then begin to happen that right now we are nor sure of their exact nature. For much of reality will not be as it is now.

“There will be many strange beasts upon the Earth in those days, some from the past and some that we have never seen. The nature of mankind will appear strange in these times we walk between worlds and we will house many spirits even within our bodies After a time we will again walk with our brothers from the Stars, and rebuild this Earth But not until the Purifier has left his mark upon the universe.

“No thing living will go untouched, here or in the heavens. The way through this time it is said is to be found in our hearts, and reuniting with our spiritual self. Getting simple and returning to living with and upon the Earth and in harmony with her creatures. Remembering that we are the caretakers, the fire keepers of the Spirit.

Our relatives from the Stars are coming home to see how well we have fared in our journey.

http://www.wolflodge.org/bluestar/bluestar.htm

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Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: terrypat on August 24, 2011, 02:07:21 PM
Thank you Barb for all your dedicated work. It's much appreciated .....
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on August 25, 2011, 12:52:45 AM
Thank you Barb for all your dedicated work. It's much appreciated .....

What do you all think "the twins" means? Gemini so would that be about June 2012?
Ideas?

“The return of the Blue Star Kachina who is also known as Nan ga sohu will be the alarm clock that tells us of the new day and new way of life, a new world that is coming. This is where the changes will begin. They will start as fires that burn within us, and we will burn up with desires and conflict if we do not remember the original teachings, and return to the peaceful way of life.

“Not far behind the twins will come the Purifier The Red Kachina, who will bring the Day of Purification. On this day the Earth, her creatures and all life as we know it will change forever. There will be messengers that will precede this coming of the Purifier. They will leave messages to those on Earth who remember the old ways
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: terrypat on August 25, 2011, 01:20:38 AM
That is why you are here." Following his instructions, Spider Woman took some earth, mixed with it some tuchvala (liquid from mouth; saliva), and molded it into two beings. Then she covered them with a cape made of white substance which was the creative wisdom itself, and sang the Creation Song over them. When she uncovered them the two beings, twins, sat up and asked, "Who are we? Why are we here?" To the one on the right Spider Woman said, "You are Poqanghoya and you are to help keep this world in order when life is put upon it. Go now around all the world and put your hands upon the earth so that it will become fully solidified. This is your duty." Spider Woman then said to the twin on the left, "You are Palongawhoya and you are to help
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: errrv on August 25, 2011, 04:59:32 AM
Thank you Barb for all your dedicated work. It's much appreciated .....

What do you all think "the twins" means? Gemini so would that be about June 2012?
Ideas?


My guess is comets Honda & Levy. One comes from the south, the other from the north. The twins other job was to steady the earth during creation as the north & south poles. They were also referred to as the nephews, as in the prophecy of the blue star kachina.
Erv
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Ed Douglas on August 25, 2011, 10:23:30 AM
If those two comets are a part of this, we should know in the near future.   ed
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Ed Douglas on August 25, 2011, 12:56:20 PM
As told, the Blue Kachina will COME TO BE, with his nephews, and they shall return the earth to its proper rotation, counter clockwise. Not far behind the twins will come the Red Kachina, the Purifier.   ed
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on August 25, 2011, 12:58:58 PM
If those two comets are a part of this, we should know in the near future.   ed

Please let us know what you find out about these two, Honda and Levy...

Meanwhile I did find this, not verified by me...
Barb
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Here's a great simulation all three comets - Elenin, Honda and Levy.
http://elenin.org/honda-levy.php

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Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Ed Douglas on August 25, 2011, 01:16:51 PM
Actually I don't see much interaction between Levy and Honda. Levy will be closest to earth,Jan 6th, 2012, at .045au. Honda was closest a few days ago, Aug 18th, at .077au. Yu55 will be closest on Nov 9th at .002au, the closest of any of the three. Elenin might be bringing the "twins" with it. Perhaps it will expand into the Blue Kachina. We shall watch and see.   ed
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: errrv on August 25, 2011, 01:39:52 PM
Yes Ed, I saw the extra 2 fast movers on Marshall's video & thought of those as well. They should be rolling in with elenin in a month.
Erv
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: vBreezo on August 27, 2011, 08:37:48 AM
I watched the Marshall Masters video re: The Blue Star Prophecy last night. Very good presentation of information that has been revealed in many different ways in the past.

For those who say "Show me the Proof", I answer, "Wait and See". The 'proof' comes from our inner knowing of things we were not taught during this lifetime. We either see videos like MM's and accept it as true or we do not.  The belief comes from a spiritual place not from an intellectual one.

Therefore, my approach is to NOT argue the point with those who choose to ridicule it. For those who can accept and handle the truth, we are of the same tribe and somehow related in a distant time in the past. Let us find unity among ourselves and not be concerned about those who consider us to be outside the 'mainstream'.

"Somewhere between the time you arrive and the time you go, may lie a reason you were alive, that you'll never know"  (Last line in "For a Dancer" by Jackson Browne - 'Late for the Sky'  1972)
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: terrypat on August 27, 2011, 01:09:39 PM
Top shelf approach  ;)
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: vBreezo on August 27, 2011, 07:42:34 PM
I joined this site in search of credible information regarding Comet Elenin. Wow! Did I get more than I expected! Marshall Masters video was impressive. Today, as I was stuck inside all day waiting for Hurrican Irene to pass over, I had time to download and watch "The Quickening" by Keith Wyatt at [AwakenAsOne.com]

It not only answered many of my questions about the Mayan belief structure and Hopi prophecies, it also came to many of the conclusions I have made for myself during the past two years. I totally inderstand what they are predicting and I am in sync with the eventual spiritual conclusion. What is going to happen in two months is not the end of the world, it is the beginning of a new era and the next major shift in evolution. And we will be there to experience it.

I have already made the switch from urban living to living close to nature with the basic necessities for survival. Or maybe still with a few that could easily be eliminated; really going to miss the internet. (got rid of the T V two years ago) I am now living as a hermit on 240 acres in a remote area of northern N C.

I truly wish there was time to find a way to locate a few people who are willing and able to share this experience.  We could set-up campsites on a near-by field and practice a communal life-style until Oct 28 2011. We would live like monks, dividing our time between physical work and spiritual work with the aim of preparing ourselves for the final Quickening.  As it is, I will go through this transition with only my faithful companion, Wa-Stee (pronounced Wah-Stay and means "Dog" in the Cheyenne language - or so I have been told).

I am sure we will all be linked in spirit so I really will not be going through this experience alone.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: errrv on August 28, 2011, 09:29:42 AM
vBreezo,
Where are you in NC?
Erv
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Jimfarmer on September 02, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
This weeks' Q&A for September 3, 2011 (released early) from the Zetas at http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/03sp2011.htm has an item related to the Blue Kachina.

[start extract]
[Q]     That I can tell, the Zetas have never disputed the Hopi Prophecies. I am wondering, given our understanding of the Vedic texts, referring to the appearence of the Dark Twin, and considering its lack of reflective qualities my question is - since it is slated to 'loom large' in the sky during the last weeks, would it be a fair assumption that the Dark Twin might well be the Blue Star Kachina? Which the ancient Hopi say will appear just before the Red Star Kachina; which I believe is unquestionably Planet X. http://www.wolflodge.org/bluestar/bluestar.htm [and from another] Scallion talked about a "blue star", the Hopi prophecy, stating "The Blue Star Kachina of the Hopi Indians will appear from behind the sun, traveling towards Arcturus". The Dark Twin does move from behind the Sun. But the Hopi prophecy only seems to predict visibility to man, not location. Here's the Hopi prophecy sans Scallion's spin ""When the Blue Star Kachina makes its appearance in the heavens, the Fifth World will emerge". [and from another] From the Kolbrin:
    Origins 8:3 They worshipped in error, the malignant horned star and her escorts.
    Creation 4:5 Then came the day when all things became still and apprehensive, for God cuased a sign to appear in the Heavens, so that men should know the Earth would be afflicted, and the sign was a strange star.
    Creation 4:6 The star grew and and waxed to great brightness and was awesome to behold. It put forth horns and sang, being unlike any other ever seen.
    Creation 4:7 Then God manifested Himself in the Heavens, His voice was as the roll of thunders and He was clothed with smoke and fire. He carried lightnings in His hand and His breath, falling upon the Earth, brought forth brimstone and embers. [and from another] Kali http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali The name Kali means black, time, death, lord of death. Kali is represented as the consort of Lord Shiva, on whose body she is often seen standing. Kali is portrayed mostly in two forms: the popular four-armed form and the ten-armed Mahakali form. In both of her forms, she is described as being black in color but is most often depicted as blue in popular Indian art.


[A] Indeed, as we have reported that the [Earth's] Dark Twin has fallen behind the Earth, dropping outside of their shared orbit to evade the roiling particle flows, it will be seen increasingly in the night sky, and thus could be interpreted as a "star". When reflecting sunlight when it emerged from behind the Sun and caught up to the Earth in their shared orbit, it reflected only blue light with an occasional glint of yellow. Objects that appear black do so because they absorb light, reflecting little, and the Dark Twin is a big hunk of black rock.

We have predicted that the Dark Twin will be squeezed toward the Earth as the three planets in the cup - Venus, Earth, and the Dark Twin - are pressed together by the particle flow roiling in front of the approaching Planet X. During this time, and before the Dark Twin escapes the cup, it will be close enough that sunlight reflected from its surface will bounce toward the Earth and be seen on the night side of Earth - a blueish star! This drama has happened before, and been reported in Hindu religion, the god Kali, and in the Kolbrin literature. The Hopi prophecy also refers to this drama, which is likely to occur either within or close to the Last Weeks.
[end extract]
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on September 03, 2011, 12:40:32 AM
Jim, good catch. Thanks for posting the zeta article on these prophecies.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: errrv on September 03, 2011, 08:04:01 AM
Very interesting! Concerning the dark twin, has it been observed by any of the satellites? STEREO?
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: errrv on October 09, 2011, 05:40:02 PM
My girlfriend is an archaologist and we discuss cliff drawings etc all the time. Do any of you consider that the Blue Star Kachina might be the spirals reported in Norway & China? They are blue. They dance. And they unmask.

I still think the spirals are VERY tied in... As they are repeated over and over on cliff paintings, many times drawn next to cataclysmic scenes with dead people & animals.
Erv
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Jimfarmer on October 09, 2011, 07:04:28 PM
Very interesting! Concerning the dark twin, has it been observed by any of the satellites? STEREO?

If so, it would have been removed from the images.  But, we now have a couple of photographs at http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue259.htm (http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/issue259.htm) .
[start excerpt]
The Zetas have warned that the Dark Twin will become more visible as the planets squeezed together in front of Planet X are squeezed ever tighter. The Dark Twin has fallen behind the Earth, pushed back out of their shared orbit into the night sky, and is usually seen at dusk as one looks toward the west, back along their shared orbit and into the night sky. First seen in early 2004 as it emerged from behind the Sun, approaching the stalled Earth. It reflected blue light, with an occasional flash of yellow, and was seen naked eye by people after sunset at that time. This was captured on film at that time also, by more than one amateur astronomer
(http://www.zetatalk.com/newsletr/image157.jpg)
[end excerpt]
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Morgana2012 on May 03, 2012, 10:28:09 PM
Barb:   I happened across and liked your article on the Blue Kachina Prophecy, The Red Kachina Prophecy and a photo of the old Hopi Chief and his writings.   Does this look like the horned planet?
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on May 03, 2012, 10:51:45 PM
Morgana thanks for your post. Will be back here soon,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Morgana2012 on June 02, 2012, 11:46:44 PM
Red and Blue (Kachina) lights visible at the Neumayer Station 6-1-12. 
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: enlightenme on June 03, 2012, 04:08:28 AM
Wow, interesting pic Morgana!  I'm not quite sure what to make of it, but it sure does make one wonder.....
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: steedy on June 03, 2012, 07:16:03 AM
It's lens flare.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: planetxseeker on June 03, 2012, 12:37:12 PM
I agree there is some lens flare, but is it all lens flare?
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: steedy on June 03, 2012, 02:41:14 PM
It's all lens flare.  Look closer at it. 
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on June 04, 2012, 10:51:14 AM
Red and Blue (Kachina) lights visible at the Neumayer Station 6-1-12.

Morgana thanks for posting the photos. As you probably know, since you posted them,
a Member here, Juju posted a video of objects seen from an airplane near Australia.
I info'd Marshall know and he posted an article about this; also there have a number of different (possible) sightings in the southern hemisphere including the antarctic. We just cannot be sure but anyway thanks for the postings, everyone.
It is just my opinion, but I believe Planetxseeker is right when he says we may have a number of earth changes events in the northern hemisphere before we are ever able to view Planet X in the skies.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Jimfarmer on June 04, 2012, 05:55:50 PM
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It's all lens flare.  Look closer at it. 

I don't know what to look for.  What is the criteria?
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: steedy on June 05, 2012, 05:36:22 AM
The criteria is to look at it.  And look at other lens flare photos if you can't see what's obvious.  But, to break it down for you, the two reddish flares gives it away as to it being lens flare.  The brighter flare is not another star or planet either, just flare.  Light bouncing off the lens of the camera.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: planetxseeker on June 05, 2012, 08:51:32 AM
My assumption is that it was set for night viewing and the sun appearing at the horizon was too much for said night setting. I see obvious distortion of the sun and both the blue and red objects (including a second red object). My question is though is it not possible that we have the sun, a small blue object, and a bigger red object? Does the "anything red is flare" supersede a real red object? Or is it possible we have a real sun, a real blue object (both distorted) and then a double red flare to the right of that?
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: steedy on June 05, 2012, 08:55:57 AM
My question is always, if people are seeing these extra suns, why does nobody know about it?  It's never on the news, it's never reported in scientific journals, so why do people assume there is an extra sun when nobody else is seeing it?  It's not just because it's in Antarctica, it's because we don't have an extra one.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: planetxseeker on June 06, 2012, 02:17:12 AM
Wow, that statement made a lot of assumptions lol. Binary star systems are more common than single star systems. Compared to most stars, our sun is not nearly as bright, so we may not have a second sun or we may have a very weak second star either a red or brown dwarf. Either would be hard to see. As for Antarctica, what is all the recent buzz about? Why are countries suddenly tripping over each other to stake a claim to Antarctica? Why in the past 3 months were such people as Al Gore, Steven Spielberg, Richard Branson and others there? It may have nothing to do with a second sun or it could have everything to do with a second sun, a new planet, etc. I agree that a single flared photo is not the best evidence, but to totally dismiss it in its entirety because its not on the national news is not wise either! There is no argument at least some of what we see is glare, but to dismiss the whole photo as all flare I can't wrap my head around.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: steedy on June 06, 2012, 08:11:22 AM
My guess as to why people are trying to take a stake in it is there must be oil, gold, or some other thing there that they think they can make lots of money from.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Jimfarmer on June 06, 2012, 09:09:30 AM
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My question is always, if people are seeing these extra suns, why does nobody know about it?  It's never on the news, it's never reported in scientific journals, so why do people assume there is an extra sun when nobody else is seeing it?  It's not just because it's in Antarctica, it's because we don't have an extra one.

Answer to question:  the cover-up, which is very strong and vicious.

Regarding second suns:  The term "second sun" refers to the lesser of two bright objects in the sky, the first one being the Sun.  It is not necessarily another star, lit or unlit -- just an object that is too bright and large to be one of the known planets.

Now, according to the Zetas,  Earth has a twin planet that occupies the same orbit as Earth but is always (normally) exactly on the opposite side of the Sun and hence not visible even to telescopes;  and,  the Sun also has a twin, a brown dwarf, located at a distance of 18 times the distance from Sun to Pluto.   [I have to log out now, so don't have time to search for a link,  but it is in http://www.zetatalk.com (http://www.zetatalk.com) somewhere.]
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: planetxseeker on June 06, 2012, 10:10:47 AM
It took the Russians over 20 years to drill through the ice to get to Lake Vostok on the surface of Antarctica. Remember the ice is very thick at the South Pole and part of the problem the Russians has was constant lawsuits by environmental groups trying to protect Antarctica from being "destroyed" even though the Russians stated purpose was merely to as scientifically clean as possible, just get an ice sample from the lake. Drilling for oil, digging for gold, etc will face a lot of lawsuits and would be made public. Hence the view of the sky has to be the single most pertinent reason for being at Antarctica (ice core samples are taken all the time and given to countries around the world).
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on June 06, 2012, 04:20:10 PM
My guess as to why people are trying to take a stake in it is there must be oil, gold, or some other thing there that they think they can make lots of money from.

My belief is, astronomy is the only game in town there. Astronomy on the south Pole established in the mid 1950s but really amp'd up in 1986. (Does that date ring a bell to anyone?)
This is a pdf from 2004 outlining some of the projects there.
I think there is a lot more going on there but I am not privvy to that info; certainly enough has been written by Marshall and others about the theory they are looking for PX down there. (Surely they know exactly where it is by now.)
So this is the pdf anyway,
All The Best,
Yowbarb
https://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~adair/AST_RO/wright.web.pdf
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: JKB on June 06, 2012, 07:49:40 PM
Yes, Barb, that rings a bell...  They are watching PX from Antarctica.  Dr. Robert Harrington discovered PX, before NASA ever did, in New Zealand, and died shortly thereafter, from a remarkable string of cooincidences.  We've been watching it almost ever since from Antarctica...
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: planetxseeker on June 07, 2012, 04:51:00 AM
Another possible explanation for the sudden action down at Antarctica may also be countries staking a claim to land should we get a massive pole shift where Antarctica is no longer buried under ice, presumably some continent will replace it and those people will need someplace new to call home.

On another side note, the Hopi prophecy about the "gourd of ashes" - the presumption is atomic bomb. Yellowstone National Park is a caldera volcano - the most dangerous kind in the world since its not a mountain which blows lava up, it blows it outward covering a lot more land. For example, last time lava went as far as Iowa and ashes as far as Memphis. My geology professor was one of 50 geologists picked by President Clinton in 1994 to study Yellowstone. The consensus opinion was that Yellowstone would go within 50 years. If so, you will have gourds of ash covering most of the United States. I'm not saying the atomic bomb angle is wrong, just wanted to throw that out there as another possible explanation.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: steedy on June 07, 2012, 08:20:45 AM
I hadn't thought of those explanations.  I was focused more on who will profit the most since governments run on $$$.  I like your theories.  If Yellowstone blows within the next 50 years, most of us will be around to experience that.  That's kinda scary.  I'll be an old woman then.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Jimfarmer on June 07, 2012, 03:04:15 PM
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The consensus opinion was that Yellowstone would go within 50 years.

The Zetas say that Yellowstone will flow, not blow, because conditions are different from the previous major eruption.  The eruption 70,000 years ago was relatively minor.

See http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta52.htm (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta52.htm)
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: planetxseeker on June 07, 2012, 07:17:27 PM
With volcanoes, predictions are sketchy at best, but my professor also said of all the volcanoes in the world he has been to (over 50), Yellowstone is the only one that scares him. Time will tell if Zetas are right or the geologists lol. The most destructive volcanoes are caldera volcanoes, so even if it proves minor, what exactly that means in the big scheme of things is anybody's guess.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: JKB on June 07, 2012, 07:20:44 PM
It is not a "sudden flurry" of action down there.  They've been there for over 20 years.  We are just now, recently as in the last few years, hearing about it.  I have a friend of mine that got out of the Marine Corps 8 years ago,   and he flies down there to calibrate their instruments from time to time.  You don't calibrate an instrument unless you plan on being there for awhile, I mean, you plan on the instrument being there for awhile.  Minimum 6 months, depending on the reliability of the instrument...  Why do you think we have a calibration laboratory in Afghanistan?  I also agree that TPTB who think they are going to rule the post-PX world have their eyes on that real estate.  Won't come to fruition though...
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: R.R. Book on June 24, 2017, 05:23:38 PM
From Barb:
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In the final days the Blue Star Kachina will come to be with his nephews and they will return the Earth to its natural rotation which is counter-clockwise.

Posting a film of the Native American Counterclockwise Circle Dance set to music of the Native Sami people of Finland.  Note that the entire circle is progressing retrograde to the clock, with individual dancers alternating their spin in either direction (as in earth's wobble and shifting?).  Also noteworthy is the way the film depicts earth's rotation in the beginning and the end - if the stars in the background are moving clockwise against the earth's rotation, then the earth must be moving in the opposite direction in the film.

The Counterclockwise Circle Dance is performed by numerous tribes in North America.  The website of the Chickasaw Nation explains that the dance is done around an open fire, with participants believing the fire to be literally transformed during the dance to embody the Creator, in an act of transubstantiation reminiscent of what Judeo-Christians believe about Moses' encounter with the burning bush.  The counter-clockwise motion is linked without further explanation on the Chickasaw Nation website to the closeness of the dancers' hearts to the Creator, and the smoke of the fire is believed to transmit their prayers in tandem with the counterclockwise motion. 

The counterclockwise direction then strongly suggests to me a geodynamic spiritual function, perhaps to be restored when Px resets the direction of earth's rotation.  Does the dance commemorate an ancient connection to Spirit that became lost, only to be set to rights at the end of time?  Is there a connection between counter-clockwise motion and our DNA?  Recalling historic prohibitions against left-handedness, maybe we've been conditioned to regard clockwise circular motion as natural and correct, and counter-clockwise motion to be unnatural, when perhaps the opposite should be true?

https://www.chickasaw.net/Our-Nation/Culture/Society/Social-Dances.aspx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKYVukJ4fo8

Note: The Blue Kachina prophecy assumes the "above the South Pole" orientation in this confusing Wikipedia explanation of earth's rotation: ...the daily rotation of the Earth is clockwise when viewed from above the South Pole, and counterclockwise when viewed from above the North Pole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clockwise

Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: ilinda on June 24, 2017, 05:41:53 PM
It was entrancing to watch the youtube video linked.  Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: Yowbarb on May 03, 2018, 11:56:24 PM
R.R. awesome, thanks for posting.

This is another counterclockwise video:

Native American Music Video The Counterclockwise Circle Of Dance  6:00  5,116 views

https://youtu.be/naRLNi450Zk

Rick Davis   Published on Feb 24, 2009
© Rick Davis
Native American New Age Music from Sacred Spirits with pow-wow takes.
Music from the Cd "Sacred Spirit" (chats and dances from the Native Americans).The Counterclockwise Circle Of Dance.
Pow-wow takes and edition by Rick Davis
This track is not Native American but Sami (Native Scandinavian). It is another similar repressed indigenous culture, but from a different contient. Showing Native Americans is inappropriate.
Title: Re: Hopi Prophecy Blue Kachina, Red Kachina
Post by: R.R. Book on May 04, 2018, 05:06:36 AM
The Counter-clockwise Circle Dance is performed by indigenous people of more than one culture.  The music is Native Scandinavian.  At one time, more of the far North was glaciated, such that tribes from different regions could journey on foot to places that are only accessible by boat and air now from here.  Locations in the far North accessed one another by traveling the shorter distance across the Arctic, not around it.  Sharing and adopting arts and technology among inter-visiting cultures only became an issue when it was monetized in contemporary society, as with the Sacred Spirit albums.

Because the dance is so persistent in multiple cultures, it may have something important to tell us about ourselves and our past.  And it might perform a function of some kind in a dimension that we can't yet see.  :)

(http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/media/edu/EN/uploads/image/DA1_646554.jpg)