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Title: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on October 20, 2011, 06:39:31 PM
OK, So it's truth and confession time.  I'm dangerously overweight and dangerously out of shape.  I say dangerously, because one of my biggest fears as days go by here, is that when TSHTF, I'm not going to be able to haul my sorry ___ up and over a mountain if my life depended upon it.  And, gee, guess what?  My LIFE May Depend On It!!  So, That's IT.  I'm going to work on it like my life depends on it.  Maybe we can all post some ideas here of what has worked well for weight loss, and getting in shape and strengthening exercise type information.  Things that will actually help us get prepared physically for what is coming in the near future.  Unfortunately, for the past 22 years I sat behind a desk at my job, which certainly didn't help.  Just packed on the pounds.  I think for the most part I do eat pretty healthy, just have an overabundance of carbs and sugars in there (I'm really a chocoholic, but I guess I justified that when I gave up alcohol!)  So as of Today, No More Sugar and I'm going to cut back on the carbs.  But enough about me....Anybody have any good suggestions or things to list that have worked well for them???
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: terrypat on October 20, 2011, 07:05:57 PM
We walk ourselves into the forest 1 day at a time. We walk ourselves out the same. Take the journey 1 small success each day. There is no destination here. Please review this website for a possible support group. www.whitebison.org (http://www.whitebison.org)  Another member posted it already somewhere but I am reposting. Your intention is powerful, please don't be afraid to use it.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on October 20, 2011, 09:06:05 PM
I couldn't agree with terrypat more.  It takes time to gain weight and it takes time to lose it.  The worst thing you could do right now is go out there and try to lose it all at once.  Then you risk injury and dehydration.  Start slowly and work into it while starting to eat healthy.  Losing weight is basically a mathmatical equation....  Burn more than you consume and only one thing can happen, right?  You lose weight.  I am not an expert on diet, but, I know if you start eating healthy, leave soft drinks and alcohol out, stay the hell away from fast food restaurants and start exercising an hour a day you will loose weight.  ...regardless of age  If you do that for a month, I promise you that you will run by a McDonalds and will want to throw up from the grease smell.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 21, 2011, 12:18:42 AM
OK, So it's truth and confession time.  I'm dangerously overweight and dangerously out of shape.  I say dangerously, because one of my biggest fears as days go by here, is that when TSHTF, I'm not going to be able to haul my sorry ___ up and over a mountain if my life depended upon it.  And, gee, guess what?  My LIFE May Depend On It!!  So, That's IT.  I'm going to work on it like my life depends on it.  Maybe we can all post some ideas here of what has worked well for weight loss, and getting in shape and strengthening exercise type information.  Things that will actually help us get prepared physically for what is coming in the near future.  Unfortunately, for the past 22 years I sat behind a desk at my job, which certainly didn't help.  Just packed on the pounds.  I think for the most part I do eat pretty healthy, just have an overabundance of carbs and sugars in there (I'm really a chocoholic, but I guess I justified that when I gave up alcohol!)  So as of Today, No More Sugar and I'm going to cut back on the carbs.  But enough about me....Anybody have any good suggestions or things to list that have worked well for them???

Enlightenme I appreciate your post very much.
I feel this is a good concept for people to be thinking aobut.
Just wanted to say my normal body type is not "fat," but for various reasons have packed on the pounds.
I have found a lot of people who have gained weight have injuries. With me it was wrists and elbow then a few knees injuries. Were it not for the knee things I would be lightly jogging and etc.
People who have been inactive for a long time, whether it is a lifestyle thing, working a lot of hours at a desk, or whether it is partly due to injuries/not being able to walk, these people need to compensate in what they consume.
I am putting together a program for myself using some things I used to do that worked.
A few ideas to share. (I know most people know these things.0
1) Eating breakfast
2)  Fruit meal followed 20-30 minutes by regular food
3) if a heavy strenuous day and if cold, allow a hearty breakfast
4) I don't eat pork or much shellfish.
Nothing but a piece of fruit, after 8 PM.
Allow plenty of water ...
consume some superfoods - whatever the person prefers. I have used these things and benefited.
Chlorella, blue green algae, seaweeds, dulse fresh water weed, brewers yeast, wheat germ,
If no time for a gym or class, twelve minutes running in place revs up the metabolism to the point calories will burn faster.
Well these are some things I haven't done for awhile...
I know sugar subs aren't the best, but I have found if I allow sugar free fat free yogurts, puddings, etc I don;t continue to gain and it helps handle my food addiction. those plus sugar free popsicles and low carb ice cream.
Good Luck all,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 21, 2011, 12:21:24 AM
BTW even with bum knees it is often possible to lightly jog in place and/or walk.
Swimming a substitute and doesn't hurt the joints...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on October 21, 2011, 04:52:10 AM
Excellent ideas and information going here already...great!  I had tried Weight Watchers in the past, and yes, that program does work.  The concepts are good...Healthy food habits are the focus and new eating habits for life.  Not like some of the "others" out there that want to sell you their prepackaged frozen foods for an exorbitant amount of money.  I think if I wouldn't have tried that at some point I might weigh 250 pounds or more by now at the rate I was going!  They definitely encourage exercise in addition to incorporating new lifestyle food choices starting on a very basic level and the weekly weigh-ins keep people motivated and encouraged. 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 21, 2011, 05:36:58 AM
Excellent ideas and information going here already...great!  I had tried Weight Watchers in the past, and yes, that program does work.  The concepts are good...Healthy food habits are the focus and new eating habits for life.  Not like some of the "others" out there that want to sell you their prepackaged frozen foods for an exorbitant amount of money.  I think if I wouldn't have tried that at some point I might weigh 250 pounds or more by now at the rate I was going!  They definitely encourage exercise in addition to incorporating new lifestyle food choices starting on a very basic level and the weekly weigh-ins keep people motivated and encouraged.

That's good you managed to do that program and other things to hold the line...
I have also used online sites and prepackaged foods and it did start to work very well.
Well, more later on why I fell off the wagon on that... mainly it is lifestyle things or  extra things happening or a schedule change.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Lori on October 21, 2011, 05:53:22 AM
Being able to not afford to go out to dinner so much has help me and my husband quite a bit.  He's lost 20 lbs in a year and I've actually lost 10 in the past couple of months.  So home meals it is.  We'be been eating eggs because its cheap and the smaller meat portions.  Also been buying fresh ground sausage and making patties ourselves instead of buying the processed sausage that cause almost $5.00 just for 6 of them. 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: terrypat on October 21, 2011, 06:07:28 AM
I listened to this physicians lecture last eve on you tube. It was on ExopoliticsTV's channel.

This man's practice is self helped based through inner strength.

http://www.aguidinglite.com/ (http://www.aguidinglite.com/)

Much success to all.  ;)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: errrv on October 21, 2011, 06:34:56 AM
Hey everybody. As y'all know, I'm 44. I left work at the Army's Ranger school in Ft Benning a year ago. While working there I worked with special operations teams like SEALs and Army Green Berets. It was difficult because I had to do everything they did. It was a challenge to get up & run sub 6 minute miles with those guys. They were in their 20s.

A couple of things that will help you get in shape:

1. Heart rate monitor. I bought one for $10 on eBay. It gets your heart in shape. Best workout tool I have ever used.

2. If you have the extra cash, myoplex meal replacement shakes. If you are over 35, sure keeps you from being too sore after exercise. Also has all your daily vitamins in there.

3. You need 20 minutes of cardio every day, 6 days a week. I suggest walking. If your goal is to be able to walk out of a dangerous area, you need to be walking. Try doing it with your bug out pack once a week. Wear good shoes when walking, ankle supportive boots when on rough terrain. Best boots for the money: Asolo www.sierratradingpost.com (http://www.sierratradingpost.com) look for specials.

4. Like JKB said, stop sodas & sweets now. There won't be any in the after life anyways. Substitute honey for sugar. Eat organic cage free meat & dairy (I hunt my own food). You will be surprised at the flavor & consistency of wild meat.

The more you exercise, the more energy you'll have. The faster your metabolism, the faster you burn calories.  It's a repetitive cycle that puts your body, mind, & spirit into harmony.
Good luck
Erv
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 21, 2011, 08:12:33 AM
Good posts, everyone,  :D going to learn a lot here.
Barbara Lou Townsend
Topic Adminsitrator
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 21, 2011, 08:25:11 AM
Being able to not afford to go out to dinner so much has help me and my husband quite a bit.  He's lost 20 lbs in a year and I've actually lost 10 in the past couple of months.  So home meals it is.  We'be been eating eggs because its cheap and the smaller meat portions.  Also been buying fresh ground sausage and making patties ourselves instead of buying the processed sausage that cause almost $5.00 just for 6 of them.
Lori, oh so very true, the more we prepare our own simple meals, the better off we are.
The waistline appreciates good, lean home cookin'.
 :)
One thing I have been doing and need to do every night we are all home:
I got an inexpensive divided server. Like white plastic for a buck at a dollar store. Int eh center I put oil and lemon with seasonings dressing. Or I put tahini or flavored hummus or low fat ranch dip, etc. We get the bulk peeled baby carrots at COSTCO.
I put things like
                          baby carrots
                          tomatoes,
                          celery slices
                          fire roasted tomatoes
                          grated cheese
                           
I put in everyone's bowl a little butter lettuce, washed, shredded and dried. Then they add their ingredients from the salad bar plate.
Lot of things could be put in there like
black bean corn mixture,
salsa,
sometimes tortilla chips
nopalitos (cactus) in a jar from the International foods section Mexican.

Different kind of combos but it's all good as long as it is raw washed well and people can grab what they want.

If we have either a raw salad or cooked veges it really helps.

Barb T.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on October 21, 2011, 09:19:34 AM
Great Idea's everyone! I started working on this seriously a couple of weeks ago after seeing what the doc's scale had to say  :o :o. Because of food allergies I have to eat fairly healthy...however, like some of you, I tend to eat rather too much of a good thing. So I started by cutting my meal size in half and filling in with fruit and fresh veggies, that has been good so far.
As for exercise that will be a challenge because of CF (Chronic Fatigue) however, if I go slowly - as Terry suggested wisely - it should be doable.
One thing I try to do in the morning while my cup of herbal tea is brewing is stretches, since that particular tea steeps for 5 Min's. it is not a bad way to start the day!
Also there are exercises that can be done even sitting at a desk (as I do)...if I just remember to do them that is  ::). 
One of the reasons that Weight Watchers works is because it make you accountable...if we have the "group" here to account to, perhaps we will all be a bit more diligent. Plus the encouragement just can't be beat - Thanks everyone!  :D
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: jrobert69 on October 21, 2011, 11:22:04 AM
Its been on the mind. So much easier when you are in your in your twenties. I spent the last 3 months recuperating from a double cervical spinal fusion. Gained about 12 pounds, all gut. Im a little easier than most with foods, no meat chicken pork. Not macrobiotic I use to be, but as happy with a can of beans than any carnivore is with a steak You start to crave things as you get older. Once you get 40 something even if your avoiding the crap foods its still important to stay active. Needless to say I picked up a case of Ensure yesterday. Its bad for your body to starve yourself to loose weight. Messes with your sugars, head and overall well being. But little things you can do is replace bad items with good. A bag of carrot sticks will replace those twizzlers with a little bit of effort.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 21, 2011, 01:44:06 PM
Great Idea's everyone! I started working on this seriously a couple of weeks ago after seeing what the doc's scale had to say  :o :o. Because of food allergies I have to eat fairly healthy...however, like some of you, I tend to eat rather too much of a good thing. So I started by cutting my meal size in half and filling in with fruit and fresh veggies, that has been good so far.
As for exercise that will be a challenge because of CF (Chronic Fatigue) however, if I go slowly - as Terry suggested wisely - it should be doable.
One thing I try to do in the morning while my cup of herbal tea is brewing is stretches, since that particular tea steeps for 5 Min's. it is not a bad way to start the day!
Also there are exercises that can be done even sitting at a desk (as I do)...if I just remember to do them that is  ::). 
One of the reasons that Weight Watchers works is because it make you accountable...if we have the "group" here to account to, perhaps we will all be a bit more diligent. Plus the encouragement just can't be beat - Thanks everyone!  :D
Sunnybug,  :) I'm not sure if I acknowledged this...good ideas,
Thanks for the reminder about stretching; haven't been doing that ...
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on October 21, 2011, 01:59:06 PM
Great Idea's everyone! I started working on this seriously a couple of weeks ago after seeing what the doc's scale had to say  :o :o. Because of food allergies I have to eat fairly healthy...however, like some of you, I tend to eat rather too much of a good thing. So I started by cutting my meal size in half and filling in with fruit and fresh veggies, that has been good so far.
As for exercise that will be a challenge because of CF (Chronic Fatigue) however, if I go slowly - as Terry suggested wisely - it should be doable.
One thing I try to do in the morning while my cup of herbal tea is brewing is stretches, since that particular tea steeps for 5 Min's. it is not a bad way to start the day!
Also there are exercises that can be done even sitting at a desk (as I do)...if I just remember to do them that is  ::). 
One of the reasons that Weight Watchers works is because it make you accountable...if we have the "group" here to account to, perhaps we will all be a bit more diligent. Plus the encouragement just can't be beat - Thanks everyone!  :D

I hear you Sunnybug and can really relate.  I have fibromyalgia and it also makes it difficult to exercise.  I'm thinking I might try to join the local Y for a swim program.  Swimming is one of the few forms of exercise I can do that doesn't hurt anything.  Walking is OK too, but I need to start out slow on that and go from there.  I used to love to go hiking, and I did manage to hike through a rain forest in Columbia a few years back, so I'm sure I can do it again.  It was several miles over pretty rocky terrain, so there must still be hope, right?
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on October 21, 2011, 02:16:26 PM
I ran (jogged really) 3 miles today.  Pathetic for USMC standards but there isn't much time for PT when you are on recruiting duty.  Fortunately I have almost 60 days of vacation (leave) to get back in shape before I check in to my new unit.  I guess we all have some work to do.  I have some words of encouragement from Arnold Schwartenegger's book "The Encyclopedia of Body Building,":

"Don't worry if you throw up, keep working out!!!!!"
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on October 21, 2011, 06:32:33 PM
Good for you JKB!!  Wish I could say I could still do that!!  But, I did walk for about 20 minutes yesterday, and 25 minutes today.  I didn't measure how far I went.  I figured no matter what it was a good start.  I'm going to drive the car and measure a good circuit in the next few days though so I can keep track of my progress.  Late Last spring I had bought a good pair of sneakers, they're the new archrockers.  A lot of different companies are making them, the ones I got were on clearance (of course) and are made by Avia (Avi-motion).  They were a little hard to get used to at first, but they are the absolute best sneakers for walking I have ever owned.  Makes you feel like you're walking on air, and could just keep on going and going.  My daughter got a pair, made by a different company at Walmart, and she said she loves hers too.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: terrypat on October 21, 2011, 06:46:52 PM
I have a walk for charity in the morning. I think it's 3 miles.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on October 21, 2011, 07:33:43 PM
I listened to this physicians lecture last eve on you tube. It was on ExopoliticsTV's channel.

This man's practice is self helped based through inner strength.

http://www.aguidinglite.com/ (http://www.aguidinglite.com/)

Much success to all.  ;)

Thanks so much for sharing that info!!  Excellent....It's information like this that will help us all on our quest here!  Have fun with the charity walk, hope you have good weather for it!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: terrypat on October 21, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
I listened to this physicians lecture last eve on you tube. It was on ExopoliticsTV's channel.

This man's practice is self helped based through inner strength.

http://www.aguidinglite.com/ (http://www.aguidinglite.com/)

Much success to all.  ;)

Thanks so much for sharing that info!!  Excellent....It's information like this that will help us all on our quest here!  Have fun with the charity walk, hope you have good weather for it!

Severe clear & in the 80's ...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on October 22, 2011, 09:06:04 AM
Good for you JKB!!  Wish I could say I could still do that!!  But, I did walk for about 20 minutes yesterday, and 25 minutes today.  I didn't measure how far I went.  I figured no matter what it was a good start.  I'm going to drive the car and measure a good circuit in the next few days though so I can keep track of my progress.  Late Last spring I had bought a good pair of sneakers, they're the new archrockers.  A lot of different companies are making them, the ones I got were on clearance (of course) and are made by Avia (Avi-motion).  They were a little hard to get used to at first, but they are the absolute best sneakers for walking I have ever owned.  Makes you feel like you're walking on air, and could just keep on going and going.  My daughter got a pair, made by a different company at Walmart, and she said she loves hers too.

I think I will chill the rest of the weekend, but, come Monday morning...  it's on like Donkey Kong!!!  How 'bout it?
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 22, 2011, 11:36:13 AM
Yep, Terry and Enlightenme...Intention is what Creator and the Spirits value most.   I am also needing to get into shape.   Perhaps, we could work together and support one another.   Perhaps we can start a new topic that allows us to post what we have done each day to improve our health and physical fitness.    Look for it, I'm going to start that topic just as soon as I post this response.   We can motivate eachother this way.    :-*

Chaunska  :) I agree with your intention for us all to help motivate one another. Even fior those not able to
post, or who don't have the time at any given moment, this Topic is for all of them, too.
This Topic and  these good intentions are for all of us.
Daughter and I have been discussing lifestyle changes again. There has to be an actual restart so this is it,
All The Best,
Barbara Lou Townsend
Topic Administrator
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on October 22, 2011, 05:27:47 PM
Good for you JKB!!  Wish I could say I could still do that!!  But, I did walk for about 20 minutes yesterday, and 25 minutes today.  I didn't measure how far I went.  I figured no matter what it was a good start.  I'm going to drive the car and measure a good circuit in the next few days though so I can keep track of my progress.  Late Last spring I had bought a good pair of sneakers, they're the new archrockers.  A lot of different companies are making them, the ones I got were on clearance (of course) and are made by Avia (Avi-motion).  They were a little hard to get used to at first, but they are the absolute best sneakers for walking I have ever owned.  Makes you feel like you're walking on air, and could just keep on going and going.  My daughter got a pair, made by a different company at Walmart, and she said she loves hers too.

I think I will chill the rest of the weekend, but, come Monday morning...  it's on like Donkey Kong!!!  How 'bout it?

Yep, I'm gonna have to kick back the rest of the weekend, still recuperating!!  Monday it is, Full speed ahead!  And I'm really struggling with cravings for sweets...uurrgghh!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 22, 2011, 09:24:04 PM
For dinner made the salad bar.
It was a success because we actually got a salad dressing my son liked so he
gobbled down his whole salad bowl. Big bulk cheap Garlic Caesar from COSTCO.
Butter lettuce tomatoes green olives and etc. low fat string cheese too.
Main dish:  Did an easy one because took so long to shop and chores...
Nuked some Lean Cuisine Thai Chicken Spring Rolls. 
Some of the ingredients: Red curry paste (chili lemongrass shallots etc.) ginger,
water chestnuts, carrots all chopped up fine... Super good. After it cools a bit you can just pick them up and eat them.
Later, had a small cup natural apple cider. All the complex carbs sorts got rid of my sugar cravings...
Well for me I feel half the battle is making that little salad bar...Found out the butter lettuce is so much easier to eat... Also some foods seem to combine well.
To reiterate successful actions: Making a little salad bar on a big divided plate.
                                                  A salad dressing people like,
                                                  Easy to fix easy to eat type of lettuce, butter lettuce
                                                  Lean Cuisine fairly high fiber and tasty meal such as
                                                  the Thai spring rolls.
                                                  Late night: Allowing fruit or natural juice (I had cider.)
                                         
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on October 22, 2011, 09:41:37 PM
Excellent ideas for sure Barb...A meal that wouldn't even have felt like DIET FOOD, (I love spring rolls), and for sure the difference with salad, is the dressing.  I think if I choose The Raspberry Vinagerette one I like so much it would be really good, and I even have some Apple Cider in the frig, what a great way to satisfy the sweets craving!!  I love getting the fresh cider this time of year...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on October 23, 2011, 03:35:56 PM
All right then, it is on tomorrow.  Wesley Snipes (yes, I know he is in prison) used to say that he did at least one thing, everyday, to improve his physical conditioning.  No matter how small.  Let's all start doing something, everyday.  Even if it is just a set of push ups, sit ups, stretching, running, weights, whatever...  I'm in.  Going running tomorrow and maybe hit the weight room...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on October 23, 2011, 03:41:06 PM
Good for you JKB!!  Wish I could say I could still do that!!  But, I did walk for about 20 minutes yesterday, and 25 minutes today.  I didn't measure how far I went.  I figured no matter what it was a good start.  I'm going to drive the car and measure a good circuit in the next few days though so I can keep track of my progress.  Late Last spring I had bought a good pair of sneakers, they're the new archrockers.  A lot of different companies are making them, the ones I got were on clearance (of course) and are made by Avia (Avi-motion).  They were a little hard to get used to at first, but they are the absolute best sneakers for walking I have ever owned.  Makes you feel like you're walking on air, and could just keep on going and going.  My daughter got a pair, made by a different company at Walmart, and she said she loves hers too.

I think I will chill the rest of the weekend, but, come Monday morning...  it's on like Donkey Kong!!!  How 'bout it?

Yep, I'm gonna have to kick back the rest of the weekend, still recuperating!!  Monday it is, Full speed ahead!  And I'm really struggling with cravings for sweets...uurrgghh!

The cravings go away after a while...  Takes time.  Fruits will help satisfy your craving for sugar.  Have some watermelon or cantelope.  Think about it like this, once you get used to not eating a lot of sugar, you won't be able to even if you want to. 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 24, 2011, 06:31:56 PM
Excellent ideas for sure Barb...A meal that wouldn't even have felt like DIET FOOD, (I love spring rolls), and for sure the difference with salad, is the dressing.  I think if I choose The Raspberry Vinagerette one I like so much it would be really good, and I even have some Apple Cider in the frig, what a great way to satisfy the sweets craving!!  I love getting the fresh cider this time of year...

It did work that particular night.  8)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 24, 2011, 06:34:13 PM
Excellent ideas for sure Barb...A meal that wouldn't even have felt like DIET FOOD, (I love spring rolls), and for sure the difference with salad, is the dressing.  I think if I choose The Raspberry Vinagerette one I like so much it would be really good, and I even have some Apple Cider in the frig, what a great way to satisfy the sweets craving!!  I love getting the fresh cider this time of year...

Yeah, spring rolls good!
Daughter made the salad and the dressing tonight... still having that... good.
What I used to do in skinny days was allow ample amounts of complex carbohydrates.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 24, 2011, 06:37:59 PM
JKB at one point I had my sugar cut down to the amount I would get in a little catsup, etc.
Then once in a long while I would stuff down a Snickers bar - but it would be a rare treat.
baked sweet potatoes, a vegetable feast pot with potatoes and ghi butter on top, five grains with cold pressed oil... these things used to handle my sweet tooth. (If it was the holidays I wouldn't care.
Time then to feast.) I stayed at about 110 pounds for a long time...
It wasn't dieting it was lifestyle.  Shared with someone. Michael and I.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on October 24, 2011, 09:14:01 PM
Hey Barbara,

I used to live on a six-pack of California rolls, rice, protein bars and an occasional trip to Subway.  Now, I am addicted to Jimmy John's...  Getting away from sugar is tough...  Didn't it make you sick to eat a Snicker's bar after not having one for so long?  I don't know, everyone is different.  Different shapes and sizes and metabolism rates...  DNA maybe...  Once I get away from sugars and sweets and fattening food for awhile I find it hard to go back to them.  A cup of hot tea in the evening with a little honey cures a sweet tooth too...  You are absolutely right though, healthy eating is a lifestyle, a way of habit.  Just takes time to change habits, one way or the other...  nite, JKB.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: terrypat on October 25, 2011, 04:56:27 AM
One other note on sugar. If a person has a large caloric intake of alcohol, you can cut down sugar by abstinence from alcohol. When my mom was alive & went on a diet she cut out all booze & drank seltzer water with lime.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 25, 2011, 05:56:52 AM
Hey Barbara,

I used to live on a six-pack of California rolls, rice, protein bars and an occasional trip to Subway.  Now, I am addicted to Jimmy John's...  Getting away from sugar is tough...  Didn't it make you sick to eat a Snicker's bar after not having one for so long?  I don't know, everyone is different.  Different shapes and sizes and metabolism rates...  DNA maybe...  Once I get away from sugars and sweets and fattening food for awhile I find it hard to go back to them.  A cup of hot tea in the evening with a little honey cures a sweet tooth too...  You are absolutely right though, healthy eating is a lifestyle, a way of habit.  Just takes time to change habits, one way or the other...  nite, JKB.

Terrypat, I can relate to what you said about being addicted to foods which you wouldn't dream of eating in an earlier day.  That old diet sounds like a pretty good diet, including the subway because it has some raw veges on it.
Everyone's different. I find I need the cooked and raw veges... some fruits... Back when I was vegetarian macrobiotic it was great in some ways. I needed to modify it to include more variety, also more raw fruit. Also slightly more protein. If I had stuck with it or modified it and kept working out I would be a different person today.

As far as the sugar -
it's funny but I didn't have much of a reaction to the Snicker's Bar even after quite awhile with no refined carbs. That was when I was working very hard, walked a lot and was skinny.
Not an expert on the blood type thing but I'm an O +.  I read that the "caveman" were Os and their normal way of living was: It would be really "slim pickings," not much to eat then suddenly there was something: They would kill some game, or there would be something found such as honey or berries, fruits and they would feast on it - whatever it was...They certainly didn't "find" a box of donuts, therefore the O's are supposed to be more susceptible to sugar.) They probably did OK if they found a bunch of banana or other ripe fruit growing and basically ate it all and moved on. I don't feel much of a reaction to sugar but then, I did become overweight, which is my reward for eating too much refined carbs.)

Just sharing these things ... anyway unless a person is already way overweight pre-diabetic etc. I recommend adding COMPLEX carbohydrates to the diet... which will help the person gradually cut out the refined carbohydrates.
I have found it is not so much about dieting as what you add to the diet and what you gradually or rapidly take out of the diet. Substitutions.

If the person is already pre- diabetic or diabetic, then their diet needs to have far less carbs even of the good ones...
Well I hope this helps someone.
Anyone with any kind of health condition should consult their doc who will prescribe some diet guidelines.

Currently I am on a diet to reduce cholesterol and lipids.

Good fats: In the past what helped me avoid this problem was the "good fats" I used to consume more. Almond butter, trail mix, avocados oils with my cooked grains and veges. Going to post a Topic about "good fats," because if we include these in our current diets, plus some sources of good fats in our survival larders, our group has a better chance of maintaining health. I guess "larders" is not the best word to use,  ;D
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 25, 2011, 08:29:10 AM
NOTE: I had to edit my previous post. What I had meant to say is I recommend adding COMPLEX CARBOHYDRATES to the diet,
making it easier to gradually go off the refined carbohydrates.
Examples of some satisfying complex carbohydrates:
ripe watermelon,
baked sweet potato
cooked whole grains
Essene sprouted wheat bread (or spelt, etc.)
buckwheat groats etc.
Cooked root vegetables such as carrots, beets. potatoes, turnips parsnips, radishes.
miso soup made with soybean paste and sesame butter is really delicious when you saute some root vegetables and then add them to the pot.

I once made up a sort of Borscht out of vegetable nituke (sauteed vegetables) I used cold pressed vegetable oil, and an iron skillet.
Lots of chopped beets, some carrots, radish and garlic. Put veges into a pot with lots of diced tomatoes, cooked it down.
That was my borscht. I had never heard of Borscht at the time...
It's good stuff.  ;)
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 25, 2011, 09:43:00 AM
Another complex carbohydrate food is aduki beans (protein too.)
Beans are not for everyone and some affect the body differently I found these to be perfect. Macrobiotics says the aduki is superior as far as digestibility and not producing gas. I found that to be true.
We used to fill an enamel pot a few inches with water just high enough so it won't cover the tops of the canning jars. We did not turn it on in the first step.
Michael used to cook it for us. At night he took the pot with cold water and set it on the burner.
He took heavy glass canning jars added a small amt of the aduki beans. [Exact amt I don't remember, no more than half the jar.] He filled the jar about an inch from the top with purified water.
He added to each jar a peeled garlic clove or a bit of diced onion and/or a couple bits of carrot. Stirred in about a half teaspoon of sea salt.
Then he turned on the gas burner brought it to a boil, watched it carefully.
Turned it way down, as long as the flame wouldn't go out.
Popped the enamel lid on it.
He did that about 10 PM every night. Early in the AM when it was time to pack our food for the day, he turned off the burner and used a hot pad to grasp the top of the jars.
after a couple minutes he put a lid on the jar. He dried the enamel pot, and packed the jar in there, padded with kitchen towels. He put a little container with some ghi (ghee) clarified butter into the pot. Along with whatever else we were bringing.
That type of cooking might work in the Aftertime and could be done on top of an iron wood stove.
I had an iron wood stove in our trailer in the woods.
Used to wake up and stoke the fire once about 0300, then again about 0600. We had that going all winter, and it could be used to cook something over night.

Back to Michael and I in a later time period:  We did the five grains mixture (or whatever bulk grains we wanted to cook, usually also with garlic, carrot etc. and sea salt. Same method. Usually he cooked both the grains mixture and the aduki beans in jars at the same time.
The glass jars will not break, as long as they are not put into hot water or cooled too rapidly. For example once they are cooked you wouldn't want to run cold water on the side to cool it down.
All we had to bring was the enamel pot packed with food and a couple of spoons and some bottles of water. No dishes or utensils. at night we would soak the glass jars in cold water then I would scrub and clean them.
Well I hope this is helpful to someone, anyway I do recommend people experiment with "canning jar cooking" and some of the complex carbohydrates such as the grains and beans... Sometimes Michael would pack our food jars into a covered crock pot, better insulation it depended on how cold it was outside.
- Yowbarb
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http://alicesrestaurant-alice.blogspot.com/2011/05/aduki-bean-soup.html (http://alicesrestaurant-alice.blogspot.com/2011/05/aduki-bean-soup.html)

Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Georgia B on October 25, 2011, 10:31:00 AM


 Greetings to all:  Love this topic!!!   :-*   I had to learn "Balance" and "Basics" to make any progress
on my long journey to a healthy lifestyle.  This includes all areas if life activities, but essential in getting started and staying committed to weight loss and exercise. 
  Reading a lot of super ideas here, so to simplify my comments:
a.  Amen to the all the Sugar Blues comments.  I keep Dill Relish in the frig for those cravings hit, and a
spoon of that stops it on the spot!!
b. Balance:  if I overdo in the 'no-no' category on one day, that is a plus in the fat column.  Next day, I swing back into minus by being alert to intake of carbs.  I was told to look for balance one week at a time.  That keeps me from being mean to myself for being human.
  Will stay away from the 'vitamin' topic-- we do not have time for me to get on that soapbox.  ;D

Thanks for intro to aduki beans-- new info for me--
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 25, 2011, 10:39:14 AM


 Greetings to all:  Love this topic!!!   :-*   I had to learn "Balance" and "Basics" to make any progress
on my long journey to a healthy lifestyle.  This includes all areas if life activities, but essential in getting started and staying committed to weight loss and exercise. 
  Reading a lot of super ideas here, so to simplify my comments:
a.  Amen to the all the Sugar Blues comments.  I keep Dill Relish in the frig for those cravings hit, and a
spoon of that stops it on the spot!!
b. Balance:  if I overdo in the 'no-no' category on one day, that is a plus in the fat column.  Next day, I swing back into minus by being alert to intake of carbs.  I was told to look for balance one week at a time.  That keeps me from being mean to myself for being human.
  Will stay away from the 'vitamin' topic-- we do not have time for me to get on that soapbox.  ;D

Thanks for intro to aduki beans-- new info for me--


Good to see you here  ;) thanks for the relish idea! Also other ideas,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 25, 2011, 10:43:03 AM
One reason I mentioned the aduki beans they are known to have a healing effect on the kidneys. Anything which helps the kidneys tends to help the body be in balance and not be so fat...
I will try to post an article on aduki beans soon, here:
Articles on various medicinal foods
Started by Yowbarb
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=384.0 (https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=384.0)

- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on October 25, 2011, 06:25:38 PM
Thanks Barb...More excellent ideas and links...much appreciated!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 26, 2011, 12:11:01 PM


 Greetings to all:  Love this topic!!!   :-*   I had to learn "Balance" and "Basics" to make any progress
on my long journey to a healthy lifestyle.  This includes all areas if life activities, but essential in getting started and staying committed to weight loss and exercise. 
  Reading a lot of super ideas here, so to simplify my comments:
a.  Amen to the all the Sugar Blues comments.  I keep Dill Relish in the frig for those cravings hit, and a
spoon of that stops it on the spot!!
b. Balance:  if I overdo in the 'no-no' category on one day, that is a plus in the fat column.  Next day, I swing back into minus by being alert to intake of carbs.  I was told to look for balance one week at a time.  That keeps me from being mean to myself for being human.
  Will stay away from the 'vitamin' topic-- we do not have time for me to get on that soapbox.  ;D

Thanks for intro to aduki beans-- new info for me--

Hi whoever posted the Sugar Blues amen to that.
I had been given that as a present and not long after I was really diligent  in cutting the sugar out. As I often do I fell off the wagon on sugar.
At the time it was easier because of the lifestyle Michael and I were doing and other peers.
Well I hope the grains and beans ideas helps someone. I recommend cooking them all well. Not for everyone but they are good foods and it's good anyway to vary the diet.
Keep on keepin' on I enjoy reading these ideas,
Thanks,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on November 17, 2011, 09:14:52 AM
Time for me to get "back in the saddle again" or off the "pity-pot".  I must be the "Queen" of excuses.  Feeling a little sorry for myself, so I indulge in a little chocolate, rationalizing, what can a little hurt, "it will make poor me feel better".  But me thinks, truthfully, NOT.  I need to find my inner strength.  This is harder than I thought it would be.  Haven't really gained any weight, but haven't really lost any either.  Gotta get a little tougher on myself I think!  Haven't really been able to exercise at all for a couple of weeks now, so I'm sure that has something to do with it too!  Per Dr's orders, I can slowly start to pick that up again, very slowly, he cautioned, (just walking through the food store is still taxing!)....sigh.....I have added some Q10 and extra vitamins to the diet, maybe that will help.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on November 17, 2011, 09:44:26 AM
Something that helps me sometimes, is to stop, take a breath, and then just try to do things one moment or day at a time. In your case, don't try to do it all at once, maybe just one step, then another...etc. If you just concentrate on that one step that you are taking it doesn't seem to hard and then soon find that you've taken them all!

Just so you don't feel alone I'm also struggling with removing sugar from my diet and trying to get some sort of regular exercise that I can be consistant at. **sigh** The Doc suggested Yoga, which would be good, but I can't find my book. But I think I have a DVD...somewhere....

So far I'm finding that taking the sugar out of my diet is very challenging! It's in everything! In my case - I have a sensitivity to it, so natural sweetener's like honey are ok...but even bread and sauces tend to have sugar so I may have to make everything myself...like I have the time for that! Oh well, just one day at a time, I'll get there...eventually!

So keep trying - I'm with you! We can do this! One step, one day, one meal at a time! Rah! Rah! and all that.  ;)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on November 17, 2011, 11:17:05 AM
Thanks SO Much Sunnybug!!  Your words of encouragement were just what I needed, and also it's nice to know that I'm not the only one who seems to be having a bit of a hard time here (not that a wish a hard time on you or anyone else, but geez, you know what I mean, right?).  I'd sure hate to feel like for some reason I'm the only one having a bit of a hard time with I guess what amounts to, atleast in my case, self control and difficult life changes.  Like you said, it's just not that easy to do!!  And yes, I believe your advice about one moment/day at a time makes great sense, and also I'm not going to totally give up or beat myself up, if I occasionally fall off the wagon, and eat something I know I really shouldn't.  And time to do these things IS always an issue too, you're so right about that as well.  Again thanks...here's to keepin on, we CAN do this, Yep, I know we can!!!  And I have noticed the less sugar I take in, the less I'm actually craving it too!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on November 17, 2011, 12:08:48 PM
 :D
Considering the season...we will likely "fall off the wagon" a few times. We will just have to dust ourselves off and climb back on. But if we keep encouraging each other we will get thru it and succeed!
Like you said - no reason to beat ourselves up (that accomplishes nothing anyway) - Not only can we do this - We are doing it!  ;D
Sunny

PS - the moment by moment or day by day thing got me through some really bad times.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on November 18, 2011, 04:16:41 AM
After not doing so good last weekend, I was determined to stick with my plan for the week. I've cut out most sugar and kept my meal proportions down a bit. (not so much that I get hungry - that doesn't work for me as I will binge  ::)) Also filling in with healthier snack choices. Only exercise is my morning tea stretches and a little walking around the parking lot at work. However, just doing that has got me down 2lbs!!! Whoo Hoo! I've got a lot more to go and need to add some real exercise but it's a start in the right direction.
Hey - it's a small victory but I'll take it - I've been gaining steadly all year so anything to stop that was a step in the right direction. Now...to stick with it...
Sunny
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: terrypat on November 18, 2011, 04:22:52 AM
Attitude is everything. Just string a few little success' together & you'll be off to the races. We have the choice to give things power or not. NO BAD DAYS  :P
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on November 18, 2011, 04:33:54 AM
After not doing so good last weekend, I was determined to stick with my plan for the week. I've cut out most sugar and kept my meal proportions down a bit. (not so much that I get hungry - that doesn't work for me as I will binge  ::)) Also filling in with healthier snack choices. Only exercise is my morning tea stretches and a little walking around the parking lot at work. However, just doing that has got me down 2lbs!!! Whoo Hoo! I've got a lot more to go and need to add some real exercise but it's a start in the right direction.
Hey - it's a small victory but I'll take it - I've been gaining steadly all year so anything to stop that was a step in the right direction. Now...to stick with it...
Sunny

Excellent...I'm so happy for you!  You know the guidelines, I'm sure, just like I do.  Just a few pounds at a time, means a much better chance of keeping it off!  Fast weight loss, never seems to last....
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on November 18, 2011, 05:06:43 AM
Oh Yes - fast weight loss usually means hunger...and I don't handle that well and start eating anything in sight! (see-food diet) What I'm really going for is just better habits overall so that will take time and practice.
However - as Terrypat said I'll take my little victory's where I can!  ;D
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on November 18, 2011, 06:58:25 AM
Oh Yes - fast weight loss usually means hunger...and I don't handle that well and start eating anything in sight! (see-food diet) What I'm really going for is just better habits overall so that will take time and practice.
However - as Terrypat said I'll take my little victory's where I can!  ;D

Sunnybug thanks for reminding me about this Topic.  ;)
Recently my daughter and I who share a house decided to really go for it we both have a lot of weight to lose.
With the Sparkpeople site and the Nutrisystem delivered it is working so well.
I have a long long way to go but have lost 4# and it was actually easy. Once I got into the groove of logging into the sparkpeople and logging some of the meals contents to my favorites no hard to do. There are a lot of items already shared by members so you just add it. It helps to have the group support there too. I have a spark page with photos etc.
All I really need to do is be mindful and keep exact track. Easy to do this online it is all calculated for me. once I gt back in control it will be more of a natural lifestyle change. For me being this overweight I really had to do something extraordinary and this is it and this is working.  ;D
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on December 29, 2011, 06:43:55 PM
I think walking on a huge hill would be helpful.  Maybe start out on a small hill and work your way up.  I do this in the U.S. Army for physical training sometimes and you definitely feel like you have accomplished something once you climb a huge hill.  When I get out of the Army, I will continue this and hope to find some hiking trails nearby to stay in shape.  Sometimes too walking is better than running. 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on December 30, 2011, 02:51:26 AM
Good point about walking up hill!  I'm sure that does much more for burning calories and getting physically fit.  I've made a vow to pick up my exercise routine again for Jan 1.  Recouping from surgery took longer than I thought, but I think I'm up to the challenge now!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on December 30, 2011, 10:06:58 AM
After not doing so good last weekend, I was determined to stick with my plan for the week. I've cut out most sugar and kept my meal proportions down a bit. (not so much that I get hungry - that doesn't work for me as I will binge  ::)) Also filling in with healthier snack choices. Only exercise is my morning tea stretches and a little walking around the parking lot at work. However, just doing that has got me down 2lbs!!! Whoo Hoo! I've got a lot more to go and need to add some real exercise but it's a start in the right direction.
Hey - it's a small victory but I'll take it - I've been gaining steadly all year so anything to stop that was a step in the right direction. Now...to stick with it...
Sunny

VWD Very Well Done...it is amazing sometimes what a little bit of regular exercise will do.
I'm  trying to do that although I am a bit limited in what I can do...
Yesterday I way overdid it with work on the garage and house... and with our cats...
Well it's going to be a busy day again.. as long as I don't break anything will be OK.  :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on December 30, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
I think walking on a huge hill would be helpful.  Maybe start out on a small hill and work your way up.  I do this in the U.S. Army for physical training sometimes and you definitely feel like you have accomplished something once you climb a huge hill.  When I get out of the Army, I will continue this and hope to find some hiking trails nearby to stay in shape.  Sometimes too walking is better than running.

 :) Good ideas, please continue to share all you know about fitness, which is a lot!
Thanks,
Barb T.
Topic Administrator
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Jimfarmer on December 31, 2011, 08:52:25 AM
Two tricks:

1)  Breath deeply.  Inhale from the belly first.  Tighten the belly muscles on exhale.  Do it all day, if possible, but at least while walking or excersing.

2)  Press and pull muscle against muscle while watching TV or reading.  E.g, press legs together, then lock ankles and pull sideways.  Biceps against tricepts.  Arms straight, palms together, then press inwards, then intertwine fingers and pull outwards.  Etc. etc.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on January 02, 2012, 05:49:56 PM
So, I had to take my Combat Fitness Test on the 29th...  I am pleased to report I posted my best score ever.  Still, it sucks getting old...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on January 03, 2012, 12:22:06 PM
Congratulations JKB!!! :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: jrobert69 on January 03, 2012, 12:55:44 PM
Speaking of being overweight and some of the issues associated with it. Here is an interesting article on the use of Cholesterol Drugs. First Ive heard of it.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/cholesterol-drugs-likely-poisoning.html#more
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 05, 2012, 01:23:46 PM
So, I had to take my Combat Fitness Test on the 29th...  I am pleased to report I posted my best score ever.  Still, it sucks getting old...

JKB that is really commendable!
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 23, 2012, 06:29:27 AM
Speaking of being overweight and some of the issues associated with it. Here is an interesting article on the use of Cholesterol Drugs. First Ive heard of it.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/cholesterol-drugs-likely-poisoning.html#more

Thanks for this info. I went off my cholesterol lowering med Pravastatin 40 mg. because of burning pains in my stomach.
Doc said "try it again with more of a full stomach," so will try it a couple more times but if it happens again that's it. Finis. To the readers: I do not recommend just going off a med without checking with. informing your physician. If you can substitude a natural substance and your lab tests are improving, do it.
One of my brothers took Slo-nicin for years. Will ask him if he kept it up. I used to take niacin every day...don't  know why I drop something when I know it is good for me. Going to get more. I took enough to flush my skin.
- Yowbarb
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Slo-Niacin (Niacin)
www.nlm.nih.gov  National Institute of health

"Niacin is used with diet changes (restriction of cholesterol and fat intake) to reduce the amount of cholesterol and certain fatty substances in your blood. Niacin is also used to prevent and treat pellagra (niacin deficiency), a disease caused by inadequate diet and other medical problems. Niacin is a B-complex ..." [Continues]
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Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on January 23, 2012, 07:19:13 PM
After not doing so good last weekend, I was determined to stick with my plan for the week. I've cut out most sugar and kept my meal proportions down a bit. (not so much that I get hungry - that doesn't work for me as I will binge  ::) ) Also filling in with healthier snack choices. Only exercise is my morning tea stretches and a little walking around the parking lot at work. However, just doing that has got me down 2lbs!!! Whoo Hoo! I've got a lot more to go and need to add some real exercise but it's a start in the right direction.
Hey - it's a small victory but I'll take it - I've been gaining steadly all year so anything to stop that was a step in the right direction. Now...to stick with it...
Sunny

Sunny, in the game of chess, small advantages turn into big advantages over the course of a game.  No good chess player goes for the home run unless it just presents itself.  Good chess players play for small advantages.  Great job.  JKB
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on January 23, 2012, 07:26:56 PM
I think walking on a huge hill would be helpful.  Maybe start out on a small hill and work your way up.  I do this in the U.S. Army for physical training sometimes and you definitely feel like you have accomplished something once you climb a huge hill.  When I get out of the Army, I will continue this and hope to find some hiking trails nearby to stay in shape.  Sometimes too walking is better than running.

I discovered entirely by accident what running/walking up hills will do for you.  Not only will you lose more weight as you are exerting your heart more strenuously, you will vastly change your cardio conditioning.  I started running the hills behind my barracks back when I was a Sergeant just because they were there.  Come time to run a physical fitness test, I shaved 3 minutes off of my 3 mile run time.  Three minutes is A LOT of time when we are only talking 3 miles.  It had to be the hills.  Couldn't be anything else.  I crossed the finish line and couldn't believe the time I heard called out.  Running/walking the hills will get you into awesome shape, guaranteed...  JKB
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on January 23, 2012, 08:09:27 PM
I agree with you that walking/running hills will help you loose weight and also helps with cardio conditioning.  I plan to do some hiking and climbing some hills when I get out of the Army soon.  It also helps your leg muscles out as well. 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on January 26, 2012, 06:10:16 AM
I must confess, I've kindof fallen off the wagon a bit.  I guess moving into this new house has just been so time consuming, it makes me feel guilty to even take the extra 20 - 30 minutes to exercise!  But atleast the post office is about 2 blocks away, and we have to get our mail there (there is no delivery to the house), so does that count?  It would be really lazy to drive there (as my hubby mentioned) and It's sortof up a hill on the way back....LOL  Still losing about 1-2 pounds per week though, with the changes in the diet, when I'm being good, when I'm not, well that's another story.....
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 26, 2012, 07:13:42 AM
I must confess, I've kindof fallen off the wagon a bit.  I guess moving into this new house has just been so time consuming, it makes me feel guilty to even take the extra 20 - 30 minutes to exercise!  But atleast the post office is about 2 blocks away, and we have to get our mail there (there is no delivery to the house), so does that count?  It would be really lazy to drive there (as my hubby mentioned) and It's sortof up a hill on the way back....LOL  Still losing about 1-2 pounds per week though, with the changes in the diet, when I'm being good, when I'm not, well that's another story.....
Good 2 C U on here...I know U have been busy and good to get the msg.
It all helps even a short walk to the P.O. It's all good,
Back on diet not in a exercise plan yet...
Soon...
Barb T.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on January 26, 2012, 11:39:20 AM
Great to hear from you enlightenme! Glad you are still losing dispite the changes - moving is hard! I'm with Barb, any exercise is good.  :D
My plan to go hiking in the local park has been put on hold because I will be working at a different office in the opposite direction (always something isn't it!) So far I'm doing ok on the diet side but am struggling with regular exercise. Last time I checked I was down one more pound so I was happy with that - still a long way to go however.
So far we are doing pretty good as a group and headed in the right direction - down  ;) on the scale. Hang in there and keep trying everyone!
Sunny
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 26, 2012, 12:10:36 PM
Its been on the mind. So much easier when you are in your in your twenties. I spent the last 3 months recuperating from a double cervical spinal fusion. Gained about 12 pounds, all gut. Im a little easier than most with foods, no meat chicken pork. Not macrobiotic I use to be, but as happy with a can of beans than any carnivore is with a steak You start to crave things as you get older. Once you get 40 something even if your avoiding the crap foods its still important to stay active. Needless to say I picked up a case of Ensure yesterday. Its bad for your body to starve yourself to loose weight. Messes with your sugars, head and overall well being. But little things you can do is replace bad items with good. A bag of carrot sticks will replace those twizzlers with a little bit of effort.
Hi Mr.jrobert69, I'm not sure if your post got acknowledged and I feel like I just read it for the first time, sooo -
thanks for sharing your ideas.
I know what U mean about beans, sometimes I really crave them and nothing but beans will do...I'm the only one in the family who will do  this, but I will eat beans (warmed up) in the morning like the English do. A tortilla or piece of toast with it. Cold morning I like this.
I can pick up a can of any kind of bean and eat it hot or cold. I like blackeyed peas, hot or cold. Sometimes I put a little olive or mayo in a can of beans and eat them. Or mayo and Louisiana Hot sauce on cold blackeyed peas. Sometimes I take a little pot and simmer them and put butter.
I love chili with or without meat. I love Lima beans and white navy beans and pintos. (I can't eat a whole bunch at once.)
Was a vegetarian for so many years not sure why I went back to meat. Partly circumstances or maybe there is something to the "Eat Right For Your Type," which deals with which blood types thrive on which foods, beverages and herbs...I'm supposed to be the cave dweller type, O. O+ actually.
Haven't sorted it all out and I'm 68, nearly. Oh well!
I do know one thing it is good to vary the diet, if possible.
In the coming years, which could be lean ones, we all need to make sure we have our cupboards stocked and eat whatever is there. We need to have the supplies and the kits to make sprouts, yogurts, mushrooms and dry our fruits and veges... whatever we do manage to grow, which is extra... grow veges under led.
One thing I know for absolute I need salads. Cooked and raw veges and some fruit too. I like the thought of being a vegetarian again, but if I helped set up a survival spot I would have plenty meat in the MREs and canned pantry, for people and kids used to eating meat. Some of my staples from my vegetarian past (which I still eat)
Pot of cooked veges.
Tahini (sesame butter)
Hummus
Saw sunflower seeds
Nuts - raw unsalted, but any kind I can get.
Carob
Malt syrup, maple sugar, date sugar, blackstrap mollasses small amt.
Essene Bread (bought hard- frozen from the health food store, thawed or a piece sawed off.
Essene bread with ghi clarified butter and/or cream cheese
Aged goat yogurt (macrobiotic dairy product)
Corn meal, just with butter in a bowl.
Corn bread and muffins
Wheat Germ
Brewers Yeast
Sesame seed, sesame salt
Soy nuts roasted salted
Pepitos as (pumpkin seeds roasted salted)
Nopalitos (cactus) bought at any supermarket...
Light, cold-pressed vegetable oils
Shortgrain brown rice
mixed grains such as kamut, spelt etc.
Daily dose of garlic lightly steamed with food and/or raw
probably you have thought about/tried all these.
All The Best,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on January 29, 2012, 06:33:14 PM
Hey guys..thanks for all the encouragement and support, it really helps!  We'll get there, bit by bit.  Slow but steady does win the race!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 30, 2012, 07:00:50 AM
Hey guys..thanks for all the encouragement and support, it really helps!  We'll get there, bit by bit.  Slow but steady does win the race!

 :) We will all keep checking in here...the net will stay up so we can do that...hopeully...
until we all reach our goals...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on April 04, 2012, 10:29:09 AM
Well, due to health issues, and minor post-op problems, I must confess I really did fall off the wagon!  Shame on me!  Well, the nice weather is here, I am finally starting to feel back to normal (or back to my "old" self, not sure if normal would be the correct word?? lol).  So, walking program back in progress.  Only 15-20 minutes to start, every other day,  I'm sure I can't handle more than that.  I'm also going to count gardening as some physical exercise, because I certainly do feel like I have had a workout, after the early stage gardening work this time of year!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Alfred Williams on April 04, 2012, 01:02:42 PM
I would like to suggest to everyone that can to use an inversion table like a Teeter Hang up or like mine a customized one I bought in the early 80's. I have pretty much always used it. It gave me a career I would not have been able to have for as long as I did. Great vascular and lymphatic agitation. You can imagine if you got junk settling down in your innards. The human benefits from rapid sloshing once you are conditioned. My logo picture is me in my swing showing two positions {{:>)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2012, 02:14:20 AM
I would like to suggest to everyone that can to use an inversion table like a Teeter Hang up or like mine a customized one I bought in the early 80's. I have pretty much always used it. It gave me a career I would not have been able to have for as long as I did. Great vascular and lymphatic agitation. You can imagine if you got junk settling down in your innards. The human benefits from rapid sloshing once you are conditioned. My logo picture is me in my swing showing two positions {{:>)

Great info, thanks for sharing!
I should try to get one of those,
All The Best,
yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2012, 02:18:45 AM
Well, due to health issues, and minor post-op problems, I must confess I really did fall off the wagon!  Shame on me!  Well, the nice weather is here, I am finally starting to feel back to normal (or back to my "old" self, not sure if normal would be the correct word?? lol).  So, walking program back in progress.  Only 15-20 minutes to start, every other day,  I'm sure I can't handle more than that.  I'm also going to count gardening as some physical exercise, because I certainly do feel like I have had a workout, after the early stage gardening work this time of year!

I'm glad to hear you are feeling more normal... i can relate to that after my surgery.... I'm slowly getting there, too.
My discipline has fallen out the bottom for some reason... Weight staying the same...I will try walking with daughter if she can cut back on her hours...
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on April 05, 2012, 04:58:12 AM
I would like to suggest to everyone that can to use an inversion table like a Teeter Hang up or like mine a customized one I bought in the early 80's. I have pretty much always used it. It gave me a career I would not have been able to have for as long as I did. Great vascular and lymphatic agitation. You can imagine if you got junk settling down in your innards. The human benefits from rapid sloshing once you are conditioned. My logo picture is me in my swing showing two positions {{:>)

Thanks for this information Alfred!  Actually a friend of mine owns one, but I was always a little too scared to try it!  I have become a lot more courageous since then, so I think I will have to give it a whirl!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Jimfarmer on April 05, 2012, 07:42:13 AM
Quote
I would like to suggest to everyone that can to use an inversion table like a Teeter Hang up or like mine a customized one I bought in the early 80's.

I have something called an inversion chair that works well, except that it does not stretch the legs.

A simple exercise to stretch the spine: 1)  Lie on your back cross-wise on a double bed; reach back with both hands to hold one edge of the bed;  drape the knees over the other edge of the bed;  pull hands against calfs.   2)  Release pressure;  put palms against cheek bones and push up.

Regarding loosing weight: if food shortages become critical, then the more body fat you have to start with, the better.  This has been discussed before;  one point was that the subconscious mind knows about impending starvation and tries to force the body to stock up.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on April 05, 2012, 07:48:50 AM
Thanks for your input as well Jim!  I can certainly try that exercise until I can get to visit my friends who are about 50 minutes from here!  And good point regarding losing weight as well.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2012, 10:16:57 AM
Quote
I would like to suggest to everyone that can to use an inversion table like a Teeter Hang up or like mine a customized one I bought in the early 80's.

I have something called an inversion chair that works well, except that it does not stretch the legs.

A simple exercise to stretch the spine: 1)  Lie on your back cross-wise on a double bed; reach back with both hands to hold one edge of the bed;  drape the knees over the other edge of the bed;  pull hands against calfs.   2)  Release pressure;  put palms against cheek bones and push up.

Regarding loosing weight: if food shortages become critical, then the more body fat you have to start with, the better.  This has been discussed before;  one point was that the subconscious mind knows about impending starvation and tries to force the body to stock up.

Interesting point !  Maybe that's what I have been doing the past few years...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 15, 2012, 06:13:18 AM
I am back down to 2 pounds over my weight the day of my surgery. (About a month ago.)
The day of surgery was the lowest I had gotton my weight to. That's since I started dieting Nov 14th.
It's been a bit of a roller coaster since the surgery and not exercising as much. Now that I am doing better I am doing more chores and going out and walking more not gaining so easily.
I am still far from my loss goal. Still it is progress.
Good Luck, All,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on April 15, 2012, 07:27:05 AM
I learned about this little device called a FitBit which will track your steps and calories burned and some other stuff.  I think it's $100.  I'm thinking of getting one.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 15, 2012, 08:54:40 AM
I learned about this little device called a FitBit which will track your steps and calories burned and some other stuff.  I think it's $100.  I'm thinking of getting one.

That sounds like a good idea! i think my youngest daughter was tellign me about something like that... Is it a phone app?
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on April 15, 2012, 09:02:23 AM
No.  It's a little thing you clip on your belt.  It seems to be better than the average pedometers out there.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 15, 2012, 09:07:49 AM
No.  It's a little thing you clip on your belt.  It seems to be better than the average pedometers out there.

That sounds fine, thanks,  :)
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: willsorr75 on April 16, 2012, 09:26:12 AM
I am back down to 2 pounds over my weight the day of my surgery. (About a month ago.)
The day of surgery was the lowest I had gotton my weight to. That's since I started dieting Nov 14th.
It's been a bit of a roller coaster since the surgery and not exercising as much. Now that I am doing better I am doing more chores and going out and walking more not gaining so easily.
I am still far from my loss goal. Still it is progress.
Good Luck, All,
Yowbarb

Like I tell everyone, take your time. A lot of people try to rush the process, and you body can fight back. Every bit of exercise no matter how small is better than nothing. In the past I would workout six days a week, and would dread every bit of it. After years of giving up and starting over i finally realized I was no different than a hamster on a wheel. July of 2011 I started different. I decided I wasn't going to plan any type of workout regimen, and would get in exercise when time allowed. I actually find myself working out about once or twice a week, and in better shape then when I was working out six days a week. You'll find your body needs more rest than one would expect, and over working your body will only set you back. Good luck and take it one day at a time. Every little bit counts.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on April 16, 2012, 10:22:28 AM
willsorr75 - Thanks for the great encouragement! That is good advice for us all.
I too am struggling with my weight and health issues and have only gotten down 4lbs so far this year.
Just in the last couple of weeks I've started a new way of doing things and I'm finally starting to see some progress although it is slow. But like you suggest I'm not pushing myself and resting whenever I need too. Not only is this less stressful but I'm getting a lot more done.
Thank You
Sunny
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: willsorr75 on April 16, 2012, 12:16:07 PM
Sunny, I'm right there with you, hang in there. I was an athlete growing up, and once marriage and children took over, so did my "love handles"! :D  Slow and steady wins the race! The most important part about being healthy is your internal health. All these lose 30lbs in two month diets work, but they only help your outward appearance and put you internal health at risk. I know I'd hate to look fabulous and feel like "crud". I do it to feel great, and the outward appearance is just a bonus.... Focus on the internal and the rest will come before you know it. Plus life is short enjoy it!

On a side note, when I started focusing on my internal health I began to take vitamins that include my daily source of fruits and veggies. In the past I always took the men's one a day at walmart, and never noticed any benefits. Now I take Alive Ultra Potency vitamins which have your fruits and veggies as well. After two months I've noticed a major difference in my energy level. I went back to the store today, and bought the next level up which is the Alive Max Potency. I also bought my wife, which hates vitamins, the liquid version to put in her tea. Along with that I got chewables for my kids. I'm hoping they all get the same results as me. I'm sure you can order them online, but I go to my local Vitamin Shoppe. Links below if interested. Don't waste your life looking good if you don't feel good!

Will
http://www.feelalive.com/ (http://www.feelalive.com/)
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/vitamins_minerals/index.jsp (http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/vitamins_minerals/index.jsp)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on April 16, 2012, 02:52:17 PM
Thanks willsorr75 - I have actually used the liquid Alive and liked it - however, it has a couple of ingredients that I have a sensitivity to, and sometimes made me feel a little strange for a bit LOL.
However, it is good stuff.

Your are right we need to work from the inside out, and feel good about ourselves. Sort of get our inner house in order. The rest will follow.

I kept getting interrupted as I was typing this so sorry if it is a bit disjointed.
Thank you for the links.

Sunny
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 16, 2012, 03:33:27 PM
I am back down to 2 pounds over my weight the day of my surgery. (About a month ago.)
The day of surgery was the lowest I had gotton my weight to. That's since I started dieting Nov 14th.
It's been a bit of a roller coaster since the surgery and not exercising as much. Now that I am doing better I am doing more chores and going out and walking more not gaining so easily.
I am still far from my loss goal. Still it is progress.
Good Luck, All,
Yowbarb

Like I tell everyone, take your time. A lot of people try to rush the process, and you body can fight back. Every bit of exercise no matter how small is better than nothing. In the past I would workout six days a week, and would dread every bit of it. After years of giving up and starting over i finally realized I was no different than a hamster on a wheel. July of 2011 I started different. I decided I wasn't going to plan any type of workout regimen, and would get in exercise when time allowed. I actually find myself working out about once or twice a week, and in better shape then when I was working out six days a week. You'll find your body needs more rest than one would expect, and over working your body will only set you back. Good luck and take it one day at a time. Every little bit counts.

Willsorr75 I appreciate the words of encouragement...it is so true I have mymini setbacks... Feeling much better than three weeks ago, though... ;)
All The Best,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: willsorr75 on April 17, 2012, 06:21:26 AM
LOL Sunny, some people pay big money to feel that way! I did notice the liquid versions does have some items not listed on the pill version. Maybe the adult chewables would be good for you. My kids seem to love them.You put it perfectly when you said "get our inner house in order". You are on the right track.. Good luck..

Yowbard, three more weeks and you'll even be better. Good luck. I'm no expert but I've been "starting and stopping" for years now, so I have an idea of what works and doesn't. Let me know if I can help in anyway. If I can't help we always have Google!

Will
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 24, 2012, 10:10:27 AM
I am using up the last of my Nutrisystem...it did help me. I am trying something different because I don't seem to be able to keep the weight off with the semi sedentary lifestyle...Gained back about 5 pounds since surgery...
Actually more than that then dropped off a bit so it's at 5# over what it was day of surgery.
After doing a bit of late night reading on the net i figure my greatest risk now is heart failure even though all my tests were a pass. That happens as a result of copd. (Which is under control and I feel OK.) I do get the ankle swelling one side is more which is a sign of heart failure. Taking 60-100 mg Coenzyme Q10 daily and back on the liquid Alive vite minerals. I like those I wish they would not put echinaea in there it's not for everyone. Even so, I feel more energy with it.
The only time I have been able to be in control of my weight and my lifestyle was when I went vegetarian. What I am putting together for myself now is a combo of various lifestyle/diets and based on what seems to work. We shall see.
I got some macrobiotic and health food store staples.
Not going strictly macrobiotic too much to deal with right now. I am applying some of the principles. Doing a mixed thing.  Apples, fresh salad, protein drinks with blueberries; whole grains legumes such as aduki beans, small amounts. Miso soup. Beet and other veges in a soup. Daily consumption root vegetables, onion and garlic. Tahini (sesame butter) along with the miso. sunflower seeds, other dried fruits and nuts. Fats: Natural oils and Ghee. Macrobiotic does not include spicy foods, tomatoes or potatoes. I intend to eat all of these. Consuming more protein and allowing some dairy: Not really part of macrobiotics. Going to do those things. No meat. Glugging down the same amount of coffee. After 1 1/2 days I am dropping just a little weight and not trying. It is a lifestyle change...done it before.
Zen macrobiotics not for everyone...Not really plugging it here, it may be too complicated and limited diet for many people. There are some very useful concepts in there. The reason I mention it is that some of the strict practitioners of Zen macrobiotic living, they survived the atomic bomb blast of Hiroshima. Macro=increased biotic refers to life...What they did basically was consume all natural things...strove for balance in all things...From what I understand some people survived and it was beyond all reason and beyond the physical universe as we know it, that they survived.

http://www.zenmacrobiotics.com/atomicage.html
If I could just turn in and lightly jog and do all the bending stooping lugging and physical stuff I used to I wouldnt have such a problem with the weight, but I need knee replacement and still in recovery mode from surgery. (Hysterectomy) There are lots of yoga postions that are in the past for me now but some I can do... The Tai Chi no excuse I know I can do it. I see the old folks lined up doing Tai Chi - perfect!! I'm 68 and a lot of those folks are in their 80s.
I have a video time to dust that off.  ;)
'scuse the edits. Good Luck All...
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Sunnybug on April 24, 2012, 10:55:14 AM
Yowbarb - Sounds like a great plan - hope it works for you.
I've been struggling also, both fragile health and my work keeps moving me around to different offices. However, the doctor had me do a detox (a liver one) and although I don't feel super great I have noticed that I have a lot more stamina and am a little more clear headed. So I'm trying to do more yard work and am trying to follow a better diet. So far I've not gained back any of the weight I lost during the detox, but haven't lost any more. In fact I'm going to my follow up check up with the Doctor here in a few minutes  :).
Like you I need to dust off the books and tapes and try to do more yoga or Tai Chi on the days I'm not doing yardwork.
Progress is sloooow. But we won't give up!
Sunny
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Survival101 on April 24, 2012, 11:26:09 AM
I am using up the last of my Nutrisystem...it did help me. I am trying something different because I don't seem to be able to keep the weight off with the semi sedentary lifestyle...Gained back about 5 pounds since surgery...
Actually more than that then dropped off a bit so it's at 5# over what it was day of surgery.
After doing a bit of late night reading on the net i figure my greatest risk now is heart failure even though all my tests were a pass. That happens as a result of copd. (Which is under control and I feel OK.) I do get the ankle swelling one side is more which is a sign of heart failure. Taking 60-100 mg Coenzyme Q10 daily and back on the liquid Alive vite minerals. I like those I wish they would not put echinaea in there it's not for everyone. Even so, I feel more energy with it.
The only time I have been able to be in control of my weight and my lifestyle was when I went vegetarian. What I am putting together for myself now is a combo of various lifestyle/diets and based on what seems to work. We shall see.
I got some macrobiotic and health food store staples.
Not going strictly macrobiotic too much to deal with right now. I am applying some of the principles. Doing a mixed thing.  Apples, fresh salad, protein drinks with blueberries; whole grains legumes such as aduki beans, small amounts. Miso soup. Beet and other veges in a soup. Daily consumption root vegetables, onion and garlic. Tahini (sesame butter) along with the miso. sunflower seeds, other dried fruits and nuts. Fats: Natural oils and Ghee. Macrobiotic does not include spicy foods, tomatoes or potatoes. I intend to eat all of these. Consuming more protein and allowing some dairy: Not really part of macrobiotics. Going to do those things. No meat. Glugging down the same amount of coffee. After 1 1/2 days I am dropping just a little weight and not trying. It is a lifestyle change...done it before.
Zen macrobiotics not for everyone...Not really plugging it here, it may be too complicated and limited diet for many people. There are some very useful concepts in there. The reason I mention it is that some of the strict practitioners of Zen macrobiotic living, they survived the atomic bomb blast of Hiroshima. Macro=increased biotic refers to life...What they did basically was consume all natural things...strove for balance in all things...From what I understand some people survived and it was beyond all reason and beyond the physical universe as we know it, that they survived.

http://www.zenmacrobiotics.com/atomicage.html
If I could just turn in and lightly jog and do all the bending stooping lugging and physical stuff I used to I wouldnt have such a problem with the weight, but I need knee replacement and still in recovery mode from surgery. (Hysterectomy) There are lots of yoga postions that are in the past for me now but some I can do... The Tai Chi no excuse I know I can do it. I see the old folks lined up doing Tai Chi - perfect!! I'm 68 and a lot of those folks are in their 80s.
I have a video time to dust that off.  ;)
'scuse the edits. Good Luck All...
- Yowbarb
Something that would be very beneficial for you in this particular challenge and anyone/everyone else is to have some 'fermented food(s) in every meal, I've mentioned before about how digestion is very intertwined with immunity. Gosh knows, we're soon coming into times where we want to be as strong and healthy as possible. Also, many people have candida and don't even know it, the natural fermented foods are high in probiotics and can restore your intestinal floral balance, especially if you don't have an appendix. On your physical side, Florida is overrun with out-of-work and hungry massage therapists that are trained in Structural Energetic Therapy (SET) that could very possibly remodel and restructure your body to not need the knee replacement. Of course, this would be dependent on the 'wear 'n tear' that the joint has incurred due to your soft-tissue imbalance and subsequent misalignment in posture. Joint replacements are not always as good as advertised, you can still have considerable discomfort and limited function and be told you'll just have to live with it...and drug therapy isn't the answer either.

Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on April 24, 2012, 05:30:20 PM
I need to try something new myself.  My weight loss hit a standstill and haven't been able to lose any additional weight, even though I have been fairly active physically.  I had tried the macrobiotic vegetarian lifestyle when I was much younger, and though I know it would probably be one good way, I just know it wouldn't work for me at this time, for many various reasons.  I think it's really time for me to sign up with the Weight Watchers Program...it did work about 10 years ago very well for me (I had lost 30 lbs following their program) so I'm thinking it's probably the best way for me now.  I don't like the idea of paying a weekly fee, but if it works and improves my health, then the money should not even be considered.  I'll do without something else during the week, that's all (what exactly I'm not sure!), but I'm going to give it some serious thought, and probably join the on-line program, which is the most affordable option.  Good luck Barb, Sunnybug, and everybody else trying to get to that goal weight!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 24, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
I am using up the last of my Nutrisystem...it did help me. I am trying something different because I don't seem to be able to keep the weight off with the semi sedentary lifestyle...Gained back about 5 pounds since surgery...
Actually more than that then dropped off a bit so it's at 5# over what it was day of surgery.
After doing a bit of late night reading on the net i figure my greatest risk now is heart failure even though all my tests were a pass. That happens as a result of copd. (Which is under control and I feel OK.) I do get the ankle swelling one side is more which is a sign of heart failure. Taking 60-100 mg Coenzyme Q10 daily and back on the liquid Alive vite minerals. I like those I wish they would not put echinaea in there it's not for everyone. Even so, I feel more energy with it.
The only time I have been able to be in control of my weight and my lifestyle was when I went vegetarian. What I am putting together for myself now is a combo of various lifestyle/diets and based on what seems to work. We shall see.
I got some macrobiotic and health food store staples.
Not going strictly macrobiotic too much to deal with right now. I am applying some of the principles. Doing a mixed thing.  Apples, fresh salad, protein drinks with blueberries; whole grains legumes such as aduki beans, small amounts. Miso soup. Beet and other veges in a soup. Daily consumption root vegetables, onion and garlic. Tahini (sesame butter) along with the miso. sunflower seeds, other dried fruits and nuts. Fats: Natural oils and Ghee. Macrobiotic does not include spicy foods, tomatoes or potatoes. I intend to eat all of these. Consuming more protein and allowing some dairy: Not really part of macrobiotics. Going to do those things. No meat. Glugging down the same amount of coffee. After 1 1/2 days I am dropping just a little weight and not trying. It is a lifestyle change...done it before.
Zen macrobiotics not for everyone...Not really plugging it here, it may be too complicated and limited diet for many people. There are some very useful concepts in there. The reason I mention it is that some of the strict practitioners of Zen macrobiotic living, they survived the atomic bomb blast of Hiroshima. Macro=increased biotic refers to life...What they did basically was consume all natural things...strove for balance in all things...From what I understand some people survived and it was beyond all reason and beyond the physical universe as we know it, that they survived.

http://www.zenmacrobiotics.com/atomicage.html
If I could just turn in and lightly jog and do all the bending stooping lugging and physical stuff I used to I wouldnt have such a problem with the weight, but I need knee replacement and still in recovery mode from surgery. (Hysterectomy) There are lots of yoga postions that are in the past for me now but some I can do... The Tai Chi no excuse I know I can do it. I see the old folks lined up doing Tai Chi - perfect!! I'm 68 and a lot of those folks are in their 80s.
I have a video time to dust that off.  ;)
'scuse the edits. Good Luck All...
- Yowbarb
Something that would be very beneficial for you in this particular challenge and anyone/everyone else is to have some 'fermented food(s) in every meal, I've mentioned before about how digestion is very intertwined with immunity. Gosh knows, we're soon coming into times where we want to be as strong and healthy as possible. Also, many people have candida and don't even know it, the natural fermented foods are high in probiotics and can restore your intestinal floral balance, especially if you don't have an appendix. On your physical side, Florida is overrun with out-of-work and hungry massage therapists that are trained in Structural Energetic Therapy (SET) that could very possibly remodel and restructure your body to not need the knee replacement. Of course, this would be dependent on the 'wear 'n tear' that the joint has incurred due to your soft-tissue imbalance and subsequent misalignment in posture. Joint replacements are not always as good as advertised, you can still have considerable discomfort and limited function and be told you'll just have to live with it...and drug therapy isn't the answer either.

Hello Survival101 and  thanks for your reply!
I agree the fermented foods are good... I am going back to the miso as a staple...just got some miso and tahini again yesterday.
I was  told a few years ago I have bone on bone arthritis in my knees worse on right... Oddly enough it seems to have gotton better lately...but certain things I am not supposed to do anymore. It used to be nothing for me to kneel down do filing work or squat down, lift a box etc. I just used my knees a lot. Lots of hauling, lifting, carrying kids, groceries, laundry; pushing carts and buggies; up and down the stairs taking care of parents... ...Track and even hurdles in college and many years on biccycles. I am not in too much discomfort. Acetiminophen a daily fact of life.  I have to really watch the side to side movement and also need to guard against the ACLs tearing the rest of the way otherwise I would be so much more active. I am like so many people  my age...RE Knee replacement I would do it in a heartbeat. It costs about half as much to get the total knee replacements in the UK so may do that ..clock is ticking as far as doing all this...I am OK meanwhile...Will answer more later,
Getting the excess weight off again and balancing the doshas and back to normal (Vata) body type will help...
Thanks for the idea on the SET therapy I need something like that because of ligament injuries...I probably talk too much about my own deal...I feel  like I am pressing reset to go vegetarian again...I think I needed that...
Barb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 25, 2012, 06:47:14 AM
BTW I didn't mean to put such long posts.
I do hope my sharing my ideas will help someone who is reading.
At any rate, I have pressed reset and trying to get it together...
Barb Townsend
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on April 25, 2012, 07:43:12 AM
Interesting you're thinking about going vegetarian again.  So am I.  I was vegetarian for three years, but went back to being a carnivore simply because I was tired of my family saying, "But I don't know what you can eat", etc. 

I also just started doing push ups again.  I used to do 25, but I was shocked that I can't even do 5 anymore!  I'm still working on it.  I kept thinking that can of Ensure that's in the refrigerator on the commercial must be right about us losing muscle tone once we get into our 40's!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: willsorr75 on April 25, 2012, 07:46:18 AM
Interesting you're thinking about going vegetarian again.  So am I.  I was vegetarian for three years, but went back to being a carnivore simply because I was tired of my family saying, "But I don't know what you can eat", etc. 

I also just started doing push ups again.  I used to do 25, but I was shocked that I can't even do 5 anymore!  I'm still working on it.  I kept thinking that can of Ensure that's in the refrigerator on the commercial must be right about us losing muscle tone once we get into our 40's!

Your muscle has memory, it won't take long to get that back. Six months ago I could barely do 10 pushups. Now I can do 50. It's good to test yourself once a month, and push past previous goals. Take your time, anything worth waiting for never comes quick... Good luck!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on April 25, 2012, 07:57:14 AM
Thanks.  I've been doing 5 real push ups although not all the way down, and 20 girly push ups with my knees down.  I've always been a very strong person and still thought I was.  I lug 40lb bags of stuff frequently.  But I was shocked that I couldn't do those push ups!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: willsorr75 on April 25, 2012, 08:19:54 AM
Yeah, but I bet you have really strong biceps! You'll find if both you triceps and chest aren't equally strong, pushups can be a bugger!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 25, 2012, 10:21:16 AM
Interesting you're thinking about going vegetarian again.  So am I.  I was vegetarian for three years, but went back to being a carnivore simply because I was tired of my family saying, "But I don't know what you can eat", etc. 

I also just started doing push ups again.  I used to do 25, but I was shocked that I can't even do 5 anymore!  I'm still working on it.  I kept thinking that can of Ensure that's in the refrigerator on the commercial must be right about us losing muscle tone once we get into our 40's!

That is so funny! I was watching news today while having my coffee, and this Ensure commercial came on and for the first time felt I should add that to my regime...  :)
I think loss of muscle has been a problem in the past... I have to make sure I do get enough protein...More power to you if you can successfully go vegetarian.
That's great on all your exercising!
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 25, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
Steedy,
PS They have an Ensure High Protein has way more protein than the regular one ...
Regular = 9 grams. High Protein =25 grams of protein. I may need to do that... especially if it doesn't have so much milk protein in it...am looking into it.
Good Luck.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Survival101 on April 25, 2012, 11:23:42 AM
Interesting you're thinking about going vegetarian again.  So am I.  I was vegetarian for three years, but went back to being a carnivore simply because I was tired of my family saying, "But I don't know what you can eat", etc. 

I also just started doing push ups again.  I used to do 25, but I was shocked that I can't even do 5 anymore!  I'm still working on it.  I kept thinking that can of Ensure that's in the refrigerator on the commercial must be right about us losing muscle tone once we get into our 40's!

Your muscle has memory, it won't take long to get that back. Six months ago I could barely do 10 pushups. Now I can do 50. It's good to test yourself once a month, and push past previous goals. Take your time, anything worth waiting for never comes quick... Good luck!

Yes, very true about muscle memory and in just two weeks you can lose your conditioning, so we must move to live, otherwise we are dying. The best exercise is high-intensity, short-interval...for some that might only be for 30 seconds, but if you keep at it you will increase. If you can get up to 10 minutes a workout, you will see huge benefits. But, you have to go all out for the 10 minutes, nothing is gained without cost/effort...but, the gains can be exponential. Don't workout everyday, workout every other, you need to rest, restore and rejuvenate the tissue that you break down to make strength and clear the tissue of metabolite (waste).

As we age, all of our organs and functions will deteriorate, but strength building will not. No matter what the age, you can always increase your strength.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on April 25, 2012, 08:14:59 PM
I was thinking of adding 1/2lb to 1lb ankle weights.  I walk a lot.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on April 26, 2012, 04:51:37 AM
I was thinking of adding 1/2lb to 1lb ankle weights.  I walk a lot.

You go girl!  Good for you!  I think I need to start to add more distance to my walking.  It's time for me to step up the pace!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Survival101 on April 26, 2012, 05:00:40 AM
I was thinking of adding 1/2lb to 1lb ankle weights.  I walk a lot.

Many people don't realize just how good simply walking is, so do plenty of it. But, it would
be best not to use any ankle weights. You will hear a lot of advertising on the benefits of ankle weights
from those that are selling ankle weights. However, you have a greater probability of the ankle weights
straining the ankle joint and leg muscles, which could increase the risk of injury. Then, you aren't exercising
anymore. Much better to be safe and injury-free. So, what could you do? Kick your pace up a bit, be sure to
walk on even ground. Need more? Use walking sticks (commercial or homemade) to ease your knees, etc.
and involve you arms/upper body. You will increase your product significantly!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2012, 08:56:41 AM
I need to try something new myself.  My weight loss hit a standstill and haven't been able to lose any additional weight, even though I have been fairly active physically.  I had tried the macrobiotic vegetarian lifestyle when I was much younger, and though I know it would probably be one good way, I just know it wouldn't work for me at this time, for many various reasons.  I think it's really time for me to sign up with the Weight Watchers Program...it did work about 10 years ago very well for me (I had lost 30 lbs following their program) so I'm thinking it's probably the best way for me now.  I don't like the idea of paying a weekly fee, but if it works and improves my health, then the money should not even be considered.  I'll do without something else during the week, that's all (what exactly I'm not sure!), but I'm going to give it some serious thought, and probably join the on-line program, which is the most affordable option.  Good luck Barb, Sunnybug, and everybody else trying to get to that goal weight!

Hi Enlightenme, I surely know what that is like, the weight loss being at a standstill...I agree the macrobiotics may not be the thing now with all that you do all the hard work...
Weight Watchers does have the reputation for success and sounds like an idea, with the group support.
You just reminded me I have been forgetting to log into SparkPeople that site and group helps me a lot.  :)
Good Luck All,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on April 26, 2012, 09:00:34 AM
Survival101, good ideas thanks for posting. I like what you said that it is always possible to increase your strength. Words to live by!  ;D
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 05, 2012, 10:40:07 AM
Since I added some of the health food staples back into my life, I am slightly losing weight...
Getting my balance slightly more... feel like I am getting rid of some toxins...
Miso, tahini (sesame butter) almond butter, ghi, sesame oil, whole grains, aduki beans, essene or manna breads, root veges such as radishes, turnips.
I allow potatoes and tomatoes.
I allow dairy so I have some low fat mozarella, feta etc. yogurts.
Salad every morning like they do in Israel.
Well I feel it's helping...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Mark_75 on May 05, 2012, 11:29:19 AM
Quote
Since I added some of the health food staples back into my life, I am slightly losing weight...
Getting my balance slightly more... feel like I am getting rid of some toxins...
Miso, tahini (sesame butter) almond butter, ghi, sesame oil, whole grains, aduki beans, essene or manna breads, root veges such as radishes, turnips.
I allow potatoes and tomatoes.
I allow dairy so I have some low fat mozarella, feta etc. yogurts.
Salad every morning like they do in Israel.
Well I feel it's helping...

 ;D  8)

This is very similar to some things I'm very interested in Yowbarb. It's mainly just been in the last 12 months or so and quite more in the last month with the learning about wild food. Most wild food is so much higher in nutrient values as it is instant-fresh (not stored and transported). Even comparing fresh, they are still superior in many ways. Nettles for Vitamins A, C, Iron and protien(5.5% by weight!!!) for example. Non-animal protein is far better for a start. Sunshine and walking looking in to the woods there's is so much there. I couldn't believe it and I still don't know that much about it (it's only been a few weeks on that).

Whole grains for sure and everything else you say sounds awesome and thanks for the ideas! The only thing that I've changed just in the last week is cutting out dairy a fair bit due to a few reasons really (but one is the BGHormone).

Here's a recipee for wholegrain bread that is simple and surprisingly tasty. It would be easy to experiment with it as well, which I hope to get around to in the next few days. It makes about 3 loaves.

1 rounded Tablespoon yeast
2 3/4 cups warm water (~45 Celsius)
1/3 cup vegetable oil
1/3 cup honey
1/2 Tablespoon salt
6-7 cups wholewheat flour (freshly milled if possible)

Add warm water to yeast and let it soften for 5 minutes (I stir at
that point and leave another 5 mins). Add oil and honey. Stir in about
1 1/2 cups flour well and then add salt. Add enough of the remaining
flour to make it about the consistency of pancake batter, and beat by
hand or machine for 10 min. Add remaining flour to a soft, but not
overly sticky dough. Turn in to an oiled bowl and let rise (~ 1 hour).
Punch down the dough (the fun bit :D) and shape in to loaves, let rise
again and bake at 180 degrees C (350 F) for about 30-35 minutes...I
kind of don't go on time as see tip below.

Tip: I found that whole wheat flour is more delicate if you move the
risen loaves they can easily collapse. So I have the oven really low
(like 40-50 deg C) and let it rise in there and when I'm happy with
them just turn the oven up to 180 C. Then it's about 25-30 min after
it reaches the 180 deg. Best way is take one out and when u knock on
the bottom of the loaf it should sound hollow. Can also check with a
skewer that it comes out clean.

Edit: I've just found your post here https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=3239.msg57068#msg57068 Yowbarb thanks! :D This is a great find and I'm itching to trying making bread that way. I've recently purchased a hand crank mill and have the wheat anyway :0)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 05, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
Mark_75 I enjoyed seeing your post. I totally agree some wild foods are really necessary. People in the south used to gather wild greens all the time, they used to know what they could gather...
I haven' gotton into the wild foods except many years ago when I was totally macrobiotic and I knew I could trust my own yard to be unsprayed, I was picking and lightly steaming the dandelions.
Although I have posted several references I have a long ways to go in learning what can be gathered and eaten. It's definitely a direction I recommend and glad you are going to do this. Let us know what you learn...really important now and in the aftertimes too.  :)
More later,
Yowbarb 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 08, 2012, 12:18:53 PM
I'm not really losing weight rapidly on the vegetarian diet...I feel it is a lifestyle change which I needed to start at this time in my life. Maybe it will help me get rid of excess fluid and toxins out of the bod and gradually drop down the weight.
I am not gaining at this point and I do feel better in some ways.
For now I am very satisfied with the staples I have...I'm either having the miso tahini protein combo or the hummus aduki etc. Ghi/hummus or ghi tahini and miso on rice cakes with seaweed in them. Salad nearly every day since I started; protein drink with blueberries. Kelp seasoning. No matter what diet or lifestyle I tend to be a food addict and to crave fat so I still have to try.  ;D
High protein meat and fish diet with salads and vegetables works well for many people...
It's sort of an experiment for me now, seeing if less protein and alternative sources helps me get my health better under control.
Good Luck, All,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: willsorr75 on May 08, 2012, 12:28:30 PM
I'm not really losing weight rapidly on the vegetarian diet...I feel it is a lifestyle change which I needed to start at this time in my life. Maybe it will help me get rid of excess fluid and toxins out of the bod and gradually drop down the weight.
I am not gaining at this point and I do feel better in some ways.
For now I am very satisfied with the staples I have...I'm either having the miso tahini protein combo or the hummus aduki etc. Ghi/hummus or ghi tahini and miso on rice cakes with seaweed in them. Salad nearly every day since I started; protein drink with blueberries. Kelp seasoning. No matter what diet or lifestyle I tend to be a food addict and to crave fat so I still have to try.  ;D
High protein meat and fish diet with salads and vegetables works well for many people...
It's sort of an experiment for me now, seeing if less protein and alternative sources helps me get my health better under control.
Good Luck, All,
Yowbarb

 The most important thing is you feel better! I''ve known people who loose the weight but feel terrible. So you are doing something right! Keep up the good work...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Survival101 on May 08, 2012, 02:25:39 PM

Our 'bellies' are our 'carb meters', if it's getting out there we are eating way to much sugar, pasta, breads, vegetable starches - potatoes, carrots, squash, etc.

You may not want to go on a Paleo-type diet. No, not a diet, because they don't work. A Paleo-lifestyle, not even quite Primal, but maybe the WAPF (Weston A. Price Foundation) recommendations. Increase the protien, good protien, increase the hydration, eat good fat, butter, palm/coconut oil, MCT and get movement back in your life, increase the gratitude and joy in your life.

You are RIGHT, we may have to climb over a mountain to save ourselves, are you worth it to start preparing yourselves, now?

Many people don't 'LOVE' themselves enough and that's why they don't have or keep the motivation going. But, I do think people are worth it! And, how do I know that? Because you are 'sucking in air and taking up space', which is all God requires and He/She doesn't give up on you and I don't either. So, since it's good enough for the Creator, it'll work for me, too...

I'm always telling my clients that they always can do much more than they think they can, and I'm always right and they win, too...the only ones that don't are the ones that give up and quit...

Here's a great example. A former U.S. Paratrooper, badly injured, told he'll never walk unassisted again, couldn't exercise, gains a tremendous amount of weight. Then, he discovers a man named Diamond Dallas Page, a yoga expert, who takes the paratrooper in hand and then... Watch this video, it's very inspirational and it's only 5 minutes. You won't be sorry. If you could be as determined as this man, you can share the success, too...

Here's the link ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448&feature=player_embedded






Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 08, 2012, 02:26:32 PM
Willsorr75   :)
I think I do feel better in general but I am realizing I need to sleep more because the bod is detoxifying and rebuilding a bit.. that is just my opinion...
I have a tendency all these years to eat plenty of meat, plenty calories
and lots of coffee...to keep going. At this point I feel I need to cultivate some actual strength...
Thanks for the ideas,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 08, 2012, 02:30:56 PM

Our 'bellies' are our 'carb meters', if it's getting out there we are eating way to much sugar, pasta, breads, vegetable starches - potatoes, carrots, squash, etc.

You may not want to go on a Paleo-type diet. No, not a diet, because they don't work. A Paleo-lifestyle, not even quite Primal, but maybe the WAPF (Weston A. Price Foundation) recommendations. Increase the protien, good protien, increase the hydration, eat good fat, butter, palm/coconut oil, MCT and get movement back in your life, increase the gratitude and joy in your life.

You are RIGHT, we may have to climb over a mountain to save ourselves, are you worth it to start preparing yourselves, now?

Many people don't 'LOVE' themselves enough and that's why they don't have or keep the motivation going. But, I do think people are worth it! And, how do I know that? Because you are 'sucking in air and taking up space', which is all God requires and He/She doesn't give up on you and I don't either. So, since it's good enough for the Creator, it'll work for me, too...

I'm always telling my clients that they always can do much more than they think they can, and I'm always right and they win, too...the only ones that don't are the ones that give up and quit...

Here's a great example. A former U.S. Paratrooper, badly injured, told he'll never walk unassisted again, couldn't exercise, gains a tremendous amount of weight. Then, he discovers a man named Diamond Dallas Page, a yoga expert, who takes the paratrooper in hand and then... Watch this video, it's very inspirational and it's only 5 minutes. You won't be sorry. If you could be as determined as this man, you can share the success, too...

Here's the link ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX9FSZJu448&feature=player_embedded

 :) Thanks for posting the video and the ideas...
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on May 08, 2012, 04:27:54 PM
Thanks for sharing that video...it was so moving, I cried!  How amazing!  Barb, glad to hear you are feeling better with the new diet (or I guess I should say really say lifestyle change!)...way to go!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on May 09, 2012, 09:22:49 AM
I haven't been able to do my pushups for a week now due to a bad cold.  I think I'll be able to start back tonight or tomorrow, it depends on my energy level.  But, I got my ankle weights and will start using them after I totally recover from this cold and I got my hand weights out too.  Just waiting now to clear up my chest.  But I have lost 7 lbs so far without even doing anything out of the ordinary!  I decided to make mini goals, like 5 lbs, and when I get there make another mini goal.  I think it'll be easier than to say my goal is 75 lbs.  That just sounds too insurmountable.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: willsorr75 on May 09, 2012, 09:24:39 AM
I haven't been able to do my pushups for a week now due to a bad cold.  I think I'll be able to start back tonight or tomorrow, it depends on my energy level.  But, I got my ankle weights and will start using them after I totally recover from this cold and I got my hand weights out too.  Just waiting now to clear up my chest.  But I have lost 7 lbs so far without even doing anything out of the ordinary!  I decided to make mini goals, like 5 lbs, and when I get there make another mini goal.  I think it'll be easier than to say my goal is 75 lbs.  That just sounds too insurmountable.

You are exactly right... small goals help keep you motivated.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 09, 2012, 10:15:17 AM
I haven't been able to do my pushups for a week now due to a bad cold.  I think I'll be able to start back tonight or tomorrow, it depends on my energy level.  But, I got my ankle weights and will start using them after I totally recover from this cold and I got my hand weights out too.  Just waiting now to clear up my chest.  But I have lost 7 lbs so far without even doing anything out of the ordinary!  I decided to make mini goals, like 5 lbs, and when I get there make another mini goal.  I think it'll be easier than to say my goal is 75 lbs.  That just sounds too insurmountable.


 :) VWD - Very Well Done!
UR right to want to take it easy while you have a cold. If weather permits and is very mild and not a lot of pollen (?) you could stroll around a bit outside. If the pollen is out of control or it is windy best to try and stay indoors for a day or two. In that case maybe some stretches would help...
Take Care,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 09, 2012, 10:21:03 AM
I haven't been able to do my pushups for a week now due to a bad cold.  I think I'll be able to start back tonight or tomorrow, it depends on my energy level.  But, I got my ankle weights and will start using them after I totally recover from this cold and I got my hand weights out too.  Just waiting now to clear up my chest.  But I have lost 7 lbs so far without even doing anything out of the ordinary!  I decided to make mini goals, like 5 lbs, and when I get there make another mini goal.  I think it'll be easier than to say my goal is 75 lbs.  That just sounds too insurmountable.

BTW Steedy I check the general area...where U R is like my area, very mild and only slight breezes... the pollen count in your general area is Medium to High...2 notches above Good. So that is not so good...
I don't know if that affects you... I notice the difference betwen good and medium- high...
Yowbarb
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http://www.pollen.com/allergy-weather-forecast.asp


Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on May 09, 2012, 12:42:08 PM
Pollen doesn't bother me unless it is extremely high.  I check weather.com everyday for forecasts, (I'm practically obsessed by weather!), and they will put pollen alerts out.  Thanks for putting the chart in there, that was nice of you.  I am planning on doing some walking in my neighborhood, I used to and liked it. 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 09, 2012, 11:29:23 PM
Pollen doesn't bother me unless it is extremely high.  I check weather.com everyday for forecasts, (I'm practically obsessed by weather!), and they will put pollen alerts out.  Thanks for putting the chart in there, that was nice of you.  I am planning on doing some walking in my neighborhood, I used to and liked it.

Hi again Steedy I'm glad UR not sensitive to pollen.  :)
Walking is good.  :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on May 18, 2012, 06:29:04 PM
I just got some work out clothes at Sears the other day and plan to find a gym soon, within the next two weeks.  I work mainly in the afternoon and evenings, so I plan to work out.  I took about three months off from working out and I miss it.  I am gaining a little bit of weight and would like to drop about 40 lbs. and tone my body.  I am happy with the pant size I am wearing, just would like to tone more and loose a little belly fat.  I will keep you updated on how it goes.  I will probably work out at least three times a week and will feel better.  I am also getting more fruits and vegetables as well.  :) 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on May 19, 2012, 04:42:23 AM
Yes, Chandra, do keep us updated.  We are all finding this to be a major challenge, I think.  My work schedule has caused a big problem for me (just not enough hours in the day), but then I  berate myself, because is this just another excuse for me, or is it really the issue?  I do tend to make excuses when it comes to exercise....Hope everyone is doing better than I am!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 19, 2012, 08:22:53 AM
Yes, Chandra, do keep us updated.  We are all finding this to be a major challenge, I think.  My work schedule has caused a big problem for me (just not enough hours in the day), but then I  berate myself, because is this just another excuse for me, or is it really the issue?  I do tend to make excuses when it comes to exercise....Hope everyone is doing better than I am!

Hi gal, that is actually a big problem for a lot of people.
My daughter puts in a lot of hours work and by the time she has dinner and winds down a bit on the net...she's about done for the day. I get her to walk with me a few times per week though.
I highly recommend a "nightly constitutional," which is what people used to call them. Evening walk.  :)
Currently daughter and I are trying to clear out a garage space to put two treadmills in there. We already have a big TV in there so it should be relatively painless to get at least ten minutes of blood pumping exercise. It isn't the only form of exercise needed but it will help...
Within three blocks, we have an equipment store too with used exercise equipment, cheap! That  helps!  ;D
There are limits to what I can put my knees through but walking on a treadmill I think I can handle... Meanwhile my weight loss is not so spectacular...
 ;)


All The Best of luck, All,
Yowbarb


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Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on May 19, 2012, 09:41:18 AM
Hi Barb and enlightenme,

I am glad we can encourage each other to loose weight.  My parents noticed I was gaining a little weight and they also encouraged me to go to the gym.  :)  I did just get out of the U.S. Army and worked incredibly hard over the last 5 years on working out and doing everything that is asked of me as far as physical conditioning and physical training.  Some days were harder than others and I got through it.  I do miss working out.  I might take evening walks too.  :)  Thank you for the suggestion.  I will be working out in the mornings before I go to work.  I will be busy between working out, classes online for my Master's degree, working, and possibly volunteering.  I would like to find a club that is inexpensive to meet new people.  Still don't know too many people around here in Minnesota since I just moved here.  It does kind of get lonely sometimes, but I am making it through.  I do go to church on the weekends and that helps.  I support you guys for working out as well. 

Chandra
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on May 19, 2012, 09:42:46 AM
I am also o.k. to talk about my weight.  I am about 174 right now....eeek!!!!!  I used to weigh 153.  My best weight was probably 130 in the U.S. Army during basic training.  I would like to get back to 130.  So, I need to loose about 44 lbs.  I can do it!! :)  I will do the best that I can.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on May 21, 2012, 05:52:35 AM
Way to go Chandra!  It's good that we are all here to support each other.  It sure helps!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on May 21, 2012, 07:00:03 AM
It does help to have support.  Especially if you are around judgemental, critical people.  It helps knowing someone's in your corner.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 21, 2012, 10:55:06 AM
I am also o.k. to talk about my weight.  I am about 174 right now....eeek!!!!!  I used to weigh 153.  My best weight was probably 130 in the U.S. Army during basic training.  I would like to get back to 130.  So, I need to loose about 44 lbs.  I can do it!! :)  I will do the best that I can.

You go girl! It can be done.  :)
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on May 21, 2012, 10:59:17 AM
I agree steedy and enlightenme.  I will let you know how it goes with working out.  I plan to start when I start my job which is May 29th.  Thank you Barb.  I know I can do this.  :)  I will be supporting you guys as well.  I am going to look into gyms such as the LA Fitness which I already have, just need to sign up.  I will also look into the YMCA.  I usually don't like working outside and would rather go to the gym. 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 21, 2012, 12:44:27 PM
I agree steedy and enlightenme.  I will let you know how it goes with working out.  I plan to start when I start my job which is May 29th.  Thank you Barb.  I know I can do this.  :)  I will be supporting you guys as well.  I am going to look into gyms such as the LA Fitness which I already have, just need to sign up.  I will also look into the YMCA.  I usually don't like working outside and would rather go to the gym.

Another good one is 24 Hour Fitness which are in several few key places across the US. Good for when you travel or camp out or bug out  etc.  :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on May 21, 2012, 12:57:20 PM
That is a good idea Barb.  Thank you.  I used to go to that gym when I was stationed in Kansas with the U.S. Army.  I will see if they have any of those gyms here.

Chandra
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 21, 2012, 11:00:52 PM
That is a good idea Barb.  Thank you.  I used to go to that gym when I was stationed in Kansas with the U.S. Army.  I will see if they have any of those gyms here.

Chandra

Was that a good club there in KS?  :)
Good luck with finding some where you are/where you might travel to.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on May 23, 2012, 09:53:26 AM
It was a good club, but it was small in Kansas.  I did see an Anytime fitness close to where I live while I was driving yesterday.  I might want something a little bigger.  I like to have a fitness club with a pool.  I love to swim!!!  Will keep you updated.  :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 24, 2012, 07:33:27 AM
It was a good club, but it was small in Kansas.  I did see an Anytime fitness close to where I live while I was driving yesterday.  I might want something a little bigger.  I like to have a fitness club with a pool.  I love to swim!!!  Will keep you updated.  :)

Well I wish you luck...it really helps having the pool and hot tub etc.
I sent you a PM with an address for the local Anytime one..

24 Hour fitness locator link: (I didn't see one in your area but you would have to look more perhaps.)
http://search.24hourfitness.com/exercise/24%20Hour%20Fitness%20Locator

At one point I thought I found a pdf with all the locations and if they had pools, etc. this takes a little more digging. Meanwhile the link above, you just plug in your zip that should do it...
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: cbeyer64 on May 24, 2012, 03:22:16 PM
Thank you.  I will definitely keep you updated on which gym I have decided to join.  I do want one with a pool and a sauna as well as a jacuzzi.  I love to relax too after a hard work out.  I plan to start next week again.  Took three months off and need to get back in it.  Thank you again.

Chandra
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on May 24, 2012, 10:57:14 PM
Thank you.  I will definitely keep you updated on which gym I have decided to join.  I do want one with a pool and a sauna as well as a jacuzzi.  I love to relax too after a hard work out.  I plan to start next week again.  Took three months off and need to get back in it.  Thank you again.

Chandra

Good Luck...
I don't have my home gym set up...
Something to work on...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 05, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
I am not suggesting everyone should try to go vegetarian...going meatless may not be so practical in times of stress and cataclysms...
That said, I have managed to get a few more pounds off since I went vegetarian again...so that is good for me...I feel if I stick with it I will actually get to my normal weight without dieting it's a lifestyle change...
Not restricting my calories, fat or sugar...plenty of filling food...
The total lost since going vegetarian is about 3#.
Total since November is 25.75.
 :)
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 05, 2012, 12:54:22 PM
Thank you.  I will definitely keep you updated on which gym I have decided to join.  I do want one with a pool and a sauna as well as a jacuzzi.  I love to relax too after a hard work out.  I plan to start next week again.  Took three months off and need to get back in it.  Thank you again.

Chandra

Miz Chandra, how's it going? Have you found a nearby gym?
We don't have our home gym set up yet,
Best O' Luck,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on June 05, 2012, 01:41:18 PM
Barb, I'm glad you went veggie again.  I'm going to too later, or at least 90% veggie.  The last time I was, the only thing I missed was hot dogs and baloney.  So, I think this time I'll allow an occasional hot dog or two.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on June 09, 2012, 10:20:43 AM
Well, I just ran what I think will be the last Physical Fitness Test I will ever have to run in the USMC.  Funny, I said that last year too...  At any rate, not exactly my best score but, hey, I passed.  Getting old sure does suck.  But, I can still run when I really need to.  It was pretty neat though, we ran it at Lake O'Neal on Camp Pendleton, which I must have run at least 20 of these there back in the day.  Fitting I got to run my last one here.  I actually enjoyed the run.  Beautiful day and fond memories...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 10, 2012, 08:32:51 PM
Barb, I'm glad you went veggie again.  I'm going to too later, or at least 90% veggie.  The last time I was, the only thing I missed was hot dogs and baloney.  So, I think this time I'll allow an occasional hot dog or two.

Hi Steedy, more power to you. Whatever works and makes you feel stronger... :)
I have a fondness for frankfurter sausage - type foods so I use the veggie variety...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: LAUGHALOTZ on June 10, 2012, 09:21:13 PM
I wish that I could really eat vegetarian style, but I already have given up bread, and now if I would give up meat I would have to go back to bread! I love salads and veggies so much! Also have learned how to make the most awesome steamed fresh spinach, with a little bit of Mr's Dash on it for some flavor. Very YUM with some steamed rice. I think diet has alot to do with weight loss for sure. Cutting out meat out of my diet though would be so VERY hard for me. Anything that I could replace it with that taste about the same? I think that I would lose weight so fast once I cut out the meat.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 13, 2012, 09:12:33 AM
I wish that I could really eat vegetarian style, but I already have given up bread, and now if I would give up meat I would have to go back to bread! I love salads and veggies so much! Also have learned how to make the most awesome steamed fresh spinach, with a little bit of Mr's Dash on it for some flavor. Very YUM with some steamed rice. I think diet has alot to do with weight loss for sure. Cutting out meat out of my diet though would be so VERY hard for me. Anything that I could replace it with that taste about the same? I think that I would lose weight so fast once I cut out the meat.

I am in a bit of an experiment here having gone vegetarian again so late in life. Not trying to push the idea; the main thing is people are strong, able to endure stresses in the coming years and also have a good stock of foods and water. So if that means meat so be it. I feel I had to do it to finally regain control of my weight and my behavior. I lost 1.5 more pounds not trying.)
I am not totally vegan I consume yogurt and cheese etc. and just a little bread. (See below I am off yeasted breads again.) I definitely love all foods and have a weakness for bread so now it's the manna bread, loaded with fiber sprouted etc. We get a variety like carrot raisin or rye etc. I eat a moderate amount. Also I have a  ton of the rice cakes lots of fiber no yeast as far as I know.
Here are the staples I have recently stocked up on which are very satisfying to me:
COSTCO
Boca Vegan Burgers, bulk pack
COSTCO or WalMart: Morningstar Vegetarian breakfast Sausage (patties)
COSTCO: Goat Cheese or provolone or mozarella
" bulk vegetables some fruits, (salads)
" bulk dried fruits and nuts, trail mix.

WalMart: Rice Cakes
Blackstrap Mollasses
Light Olive Oil (or Costco.)
Crystal Brand Louisiana Hot Sauce
Light whipped corn oil margarine Fleishmann's.
Tofu

Health Food Stores:
Miso
Tahini - sesame butter
Ghi (ghee)
Essene or Manna Bread, frozen. Unyeasted.
Braggs Liquid Amino
Coconut Manna in a jar
Bulk grains such as spelt, kamut, amaranth, millet, oats rice etc.
Aduki beans
Sea Salt bulk and sea salt sprinkler
Kelp sprinkle seasoning
Rice cakes, organic with seaweed and kelp.
...................................
RE Coconut Manna:  Needs no refrigeration.
Wonderful mixed into a miso soup.
The miso is good in the regular way and tastes Japanese.
With the coconut manna added it tastes more like Thai or Indonesian food.

I normally moisturize my grains and/or aduki beans with either olive oil or sesame oil or ghi. I almost always add a couple dashes of Braggs Liquid aminos.  Flavorful.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 13, 2012, 09:22:31 AM
Lately I am making a thick nourishing stew of the miso and add the cooked whole grains and the cooked adzuki beans and some lightly grilled and chopped up tofu cubes to the soup.
I put the kelp or seaweed on the side for people to grab. I put the coconut manna and a clean spoon for people to add if they choose.
The miso has a rich taste, since it contains veggies lightly sauteed in the ghi butter or sesame oil. Root veges makes it a hearty mixture. I put plenty of the miso and tahini. Radishes. Sometimes daikon radishes or turnips.
Sometimes potatoes, sometimes apples as well as the root veges.
Always the onions, carrot and toward the end of cooking time tons of diced garlic and the grains and beans.
It is different every time. It is salty and keeps well. Sometimes diced celery but it gives a slightly bitter flavor which I counteract with apples chopped up and cooked down into the soup.
My son who is normally a big meat eater loves the miso and my daughter here loves it, too.
They continue to eat meat but this gives them a variety and also provides the "good fats" that help get rid of the bad fats. Also the complex carbohydrates, in moderation does something beneficial for a diabetic which my daughter is. (Adult onset Type II.)
The ghi is healing to the liver and helps it work with the fats.
Oh, yes, my daughter dropped some of the dried raisins and cherries from the trail mix into her soup accidentally and said, "Wow that was good!" I tried it then too. The dried fruits soften in the hot soup.  ;)
I'm just doing this because I was too far out of control and I have done this before and know how..so it is working. 26.75 # since November.
Since I went vegetarian this latest time I have dropped 4 pounds.
It's slow but I'll take it... I was either going to up to about 300# or I was going to drop back down toward a much safer zone. So I have 30# more to even get in the safe zone so not bragging so much...  ;) After I get to the safe zone I have a long ways still! Safe zone varies, ask your doc.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 13, 2012, 09:49:31 AM
I wish that I could really eat vegetarian style, but I already have given up bread, and now if I would give up meat I would have to go back to bread! I love salads and veggies so much! Also have learned how to make the most awesome steamed fresh spinach, with a little bit of Mr's Dash on it for some flavor. Very YUM with some steamed rice. I think diet has alot to do with weight loss for sure. Cutting out meat out of my diet though would be so VERY hard for me. Anything that I could replace it with that taste about the same? I think that I would lose weight so fast once I cut out the meat.
Going vegetarian not for everyone.
It's good you are having greens and salads with your meals.
I love salads.
I recommend the alternative forms of bread such as:
    Essene or Manna Bread: Unyeasted, sprouted, frozen from health food stores.
    Chapati or Pita (regular markets)
    Rye crisp - type crackers
    Rice cakes from regular stores

I have a huge huge weakness for breads so I do indulge in a subway type sandwich lately I do the vegetarian variety and put cheese on it. That is only about once per month. Other wise it is all unyeasted. That helps my "bread basket" to start going down.  Couldn't find a good illustration, oh well. ;)
   
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 13, 2012, 10:22:26 AM
Tortillas OK too.
Oh yeah, even though made with refined :) flour probably, matzohs are good.
Not yeasted. Light and yummy. Can do lots of things with.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2010/04/breakfast-worth-wishing-for-leftover-matzoh/38441/


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Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: steedy on June 13, 2012, 12:39:23 PM
I think the MorningStar brand is really good for veggie burgers and stuff.  I think Boca burgers are good too. 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 13, 2012, 04:04:36 PM
I think the MorningStar brand is really good for veggie burgers and stuff.  I think Boca burgers are good too.

I do like all that stuff. For me it may have a bit too much wheat in it but so far no big problem...
I plan to gradually try to make my own veggie burgers using the adukis...
At COSTCO they have a black bean veggie burger too...Slightly more than the Boca.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on July 02, 2012, 02:03:38 PM
I do better on the vegetarian lifestyle if I have plenty of rice cakes around.
I have them sometimes with a mixture of miso and tahini. Sometimes low fat margarine mixed with blackstrap mollasses; could be honey, almond butter or hummus...
Rice cakes and also the Essene or Manna breads really help...
I like them along with a thick stew - type of miso.
We tried melting some grated cheese on top of rice cakes. Nuked for thirty seconds covered with paper plate; worked good.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on July 15, 2012, 05:59:30 PM
Still vegetarian. I had been at a low point on the weight since first started dieting
in Nov 2011. Going vegetarian was a few weeks ago. Keeping it off...not gaining slight weight loss now. What helped the weight loss was cranberry juice...it seemed to help me be in better balance ... even the cheapo cranberry juice really helps me. I get generic cra - cherry cocktail
at Wal Mart. I noticed that helped me drop like 2 ponds without cutting back at all on the food...
Consuming a fair amount dried fruits with pistachios, walnuts, etc. Dried cherries pineapple etc.
I hope this helps someone...
Barb T.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on July 17, 2012, 08:26:17 AM
Good information Barb!  I'm not sure what's going on with me.  It may be time to get my thyroid checked or something, because I'm not making any progress, no matter what I've tried so far.  Some sort of drastic measure is required I think, in my case.  It gets rather depressing, as well, when no progress is being made.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on July 17, 2012, 09:16:08 AM
Good information Barb!  I'm not sure what's going on with me.  It may be time to get my thyroid checked or something, because I'm not making any progress, no matter what I've tried so far.  Some sort of drastic measure is required I think, in my case.  It gets rather depressing, as well, when no progress is being made.

Enlightenme well I have found certain foods help me lose and some help me gain. Some stabilize...I know its not that simple...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on July 17, 2012, 09:54:34 AM
One naturopath told me to have avocado to help me gain weight, many many years ago. At the time I was never getting enough sleep my toddler girl was very active...I was nursing her...also I had gone vegetarian...so I went from a pudgy 130 pounds to about 90 in a few weeks. The naturopath had me take some malt syrup once a day...I took Grain Aminos, powdered protein in a hot drink beginning when I was pregnant.
Also naturopath had me eat avocadoes. My  weight stabilized...went from 90 pounds to 110 and stayed there for years as long as I was on the same veg. diet with a predominance of grains and veges...People told me I was too skinny but that weight felt right for me.
Later I went veg. again and stabilized at 120 pounds for a long time...and that was after having five kids...
At this point I am including lots more dairy and more natural oils etc. (my bones)...
but I (do) eat too much of everything...I feel gradually my "set weight" will change and it will stabilize about 128-130.
I can't exercise much because of knees...I keep think I better do some tai chi and walk much more than I do...
I took some blackstrap mollasses yesterday...a good thing...
Oh, I forgot to mention (it is my feeling) that avocado helps stabilize the weight whether you are trying to gain or lose. Avocado is loaded with "good" fat, the monounsaturates. These good fats help the liver to function and to get rid of the "bad" fats.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on July 18, 2012, 04:51:21 AM
Thanks for your great info and suggestions Barb.  It is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on July 18, 2012, 08:09:25 AM
Barb, I know you must miss him dearly, and especially passing away so young.  I felt that way when my sis passed at 54.  Very tragic, for sure, but do feel as if her spirit is still with me as well, I atleast have some comfort in that.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on July 19, 2012, 07:52:26 PM
Good information Barb!  I'm not sure what's going on with me.  It may be time to get my thyroid checked or something, because I'm not making any progress, no matter what I've tried so far.  Some sort of drastic measure is required I think, in my case.  It gets rather depressing, as well, when no progress is being made.

Barb, 
 
Sorry for your loss...  I feel your frustration with the weight loss ordeal.  While I am not drastically overweight, I'm not, or wasn't, where I would like to be.  I was getting very frustrated as well.  Part of my problem is that I am paying the price for all those bulls I rode when I was younger and have chronic back problems, and now I'm starting to have hip problems as well.  Running, when I could, just wasn't cutting it anymore.  So, in a last ditch effort, my wife and I took a new approach...  I have never tried this before in my life but it seems to be working...
 
I used to be, in my youth, a big time weightlifter as well.  After a few years of working out six days a week, I got to the point where I was as big as I could get without employing artificial supplements, i.e. steroids.  Not willing to do that, and getting tired of spending 3 hours a day in the gym, I gave it up.
 
However, I never forgot what I learned from reading Arnold Schwarzenegger's  "The Encyclopedia of Body Building."  That book is timeless in that what worked back then still works today.  Incidentally, Arnold has had great success bringing light weight training routines to nursing homes.  Yes, nursing homes! 
 
At any rate, my wife and I decided to try something new about three weeks ago and that is to combine cardio and weight training, six days a week.  That is why I haven't been in the TH much lately.  My wife does the stair climber for 30 minutes while I run on the treadmill for 30 minutes.  We then take a break and change shirts, and then hit the weight room.  Neither of us are trying to get bigger, muscularly...  Rather, we use lower weight amounts and do high repetitions, usually 10-15 reps per set.  We are using the same routine I used to use when I was big, only doing the light weight, high rep thing. 
 
Day One:  Legs:  thighs, hamstrings, and calves.
Day Two:  Chest, back, and shoulders.
Day Three:  Arms:  biceps, triceps, and forearms.
Day Four:  Repeat Day One.
Day Five:  Repeat Day Two.
Day Six:  Repeat Day Three.
Day Seven:  Off!!!!!!
 
Then it starts all over again.  I don't know what kind of time you have or what equipment you have access to, but we have been doing these workouts in two hours or less.  Please don't discard the weight training.  Arnold has done absolute miracles with geriatric patients with weight training (not that you are geriatric) but he has documented cases of bed ridden elderly cases doing light weight training and they are up and about in no time at all.
 
I have lost ten pounds in the last 3 weeks and I'm starting to like what I see in the mirror again.  I know it sounds crazy, but I can't believe I haven't tried this before.  If you are interested and want more info just let me know.  We can hook up on the phone or skype and I can give you more details.  I hope this helps friend.  I haven't felt this good in a long time.
 
 
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on July 20, 2012, 03:36:18 AM
Congrats JKB!  Thanks for the valuable information!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on July 21, 2012, 09:12:38 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/elderhealth/9187133/Tai-Chi-named-as-perfect-exercise-for-the-elderly.html

HOME»HEALTH»ELDER HEALTH
Tai Chi named as perfect exercise for the elderly
Practising the ancient martial art of Tai Chi is so beneficial to elderly people’s health that it should be “the preferred mode of training”, according to scientists.

Researchers found that older people who regularly performed the traditional Chinese “mind and body” technique were less likely to suffer high blood pressure and were physically stronger.
They concluded that the improvement of heart function combined with increased muscular power meant that the martial art should be considered the preferred technique for elderly people to maintain good health.
Tai Chi, which has grown in popularity throughout the world, is typified by slow, deliberate repetitive movements and is based on co-ordination and relaxation rather than muscular tension. It is believed that focusing the mind solely on the movements helps to bring about a state of mental calm and clarity.
In the Hong Kong study, pulse measurements showed that Tai Chi specifically improved expansion and contraction of the arteries — known as arterial compliance, an important indicator of heart health — and increased knee muscle strength. A number of earlier studies have shown that strength training alone has been accompanied by a decline in arterial compliance.
The findings were published online in the European Journal of Preventive Cardiology.

PHOTO:
Tai Chi, which has grown in popularity throughout the world, is typified by slow, deliberate repetitive movements Photo: Gett
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on July 21, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
Good information Barb!  I'm not sure what's going on with me.  It may be time to get my thyroid checked or something, because I'm not making any progress, no matter what I've tried so far.  Some sort of drastic measure is required I think, in my case.  It gets rather depressing, as well, when no progress is being made.

Barb, 
 
Sorry for your loss...  I feel your frustration with the weight loss ordeal.  While I am not drastically overweight, I'm not, or wasn't, where I would like to be.  I was getting very frustrated as well.  Part of my problem is that I am paying the price for all those bulls I rode when I was younger and have chronic back problems, and now I'm starting to have hip problems as well.  Running, when I could, just wasn't cutting it anymore.  So, in a last ditch effort, my wife and I took a new approach...  I have never tried this before in my life but it seems to be working...
 
I used to be, in my youth, a big time weightlifter as well.  After a few years of working out six days a week, I got to the point where I was as big as I could get without employing artificial supplements, i.e. steroids.  Not willing to do that, and getting tired of spending 3 hours a day in the gym, I gave it up.
 
However, I never forgot what I learned from reading Arnold Schwarzenegger's  "The Encyclopedia of Body Building."  That book is timeless in that what worked back then still works today.  Incidentally, Arnold has had great success bringing light weight training routines to nursing homes.  Yes, nursing homes! 
 
At any rate, my wife and I decided to try something new about three weeks ago and that is to combine cardio and weight training, six days a week.  That is why I haven't been in the TH much lately.  My wife does the stair climber for 30 minutes while I run on the treadmill for 30 minutes.  We then take a break and change shirts, and then hit the weight room.  Neither of us are trying to get bigger, muscularly...  Rather, we use lower weight amounts and do high repetitions, usually 10-15 reps per set.  We are using the same routine I used to use when I was big, only doing the light weight, high rep thing. 
 
Day One:  Legs:  thighs, hamstrings, and calves.
Day Two:  Chest, back, and shoulders.
Day Three:  Arms:  biceps, triceps, and forearms.
Day Four:  Repeat Day One.
Day Five:  Repeat Day Two.
Day Six:  Repeat Day Three.
Day Seven:  Off!!!!!!
 
Then it starts all over again.  I don't know what kind of time you have or what equipment you have access to, but we have been doing these workouts in two hours or less.  Please don't discard the weight training.  Arnold has done absolute miracles with geriatric patients with weight training (not that you are geriatric) but he has documented cases of bed ridden elderly cases doing light weight training and they are up and about in no time at all.
 
I have lost ten pounds in the last 3 weeks and I'm starting to like what I see in the mirror again.  I know it sounds crazy, but I can't believe I haven't tried this before.  If you are interested and want more info just let me know.  We can hook up on the phone or skype and I can give you more details.  I hope this helps friend.  I haven't felt this good in a long time.

JKB, again thanks for sharing your ideas and your inspiration.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on July 21, 2012, 09:16:52 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on August 08, 2012, 07:13:54 AM
('scuse it, I had posted this in one of the vegan topics but that won't work
because it mentions milk egg protein powder. At this point I am a ovo-lacto vegetarian.)
...

This AM for the first time in awhile, made a little vegetable drink fortified with soymilk and protein and
the Alive multiple vite-min liquid with chlorella, blue green algae, garlic etc. Added sliced frozen bananas. Feels good in the tummy. 
The protein powder is from animal sources dairy and some egg. Seems OK.
May be my imagination but I feel slightly more alert...
I do know from experience the algae alone will help me be more active. So possibly that means
muscles a little stronger...
(Not discounting at all the importance of exercise) just starting here with this again and it seems to help.
Good Luck, All,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on August 09, 2012, 08:14:18 AM
Just reporting in that I'm up to 15 pounds lost and my wife has dropped 20 lbs since we started this routine.  We haven't stayed with it verbatim, but I think it definitely sped up the initial process of working out for months and months and not seeing any progress before weight just starts melting off.  We are still doing the cardio/weight training thing on weekends but I have taken to just running during the week and she is doing cardio and swimming during the week.  Yesterday was the hottest day of the year so far in So Cal and I ran 4 miles in it against my will.  I wasn't feeling it, if you know what I mean.  It took forever...  Seemed like I was wearing 20 lb boots on each leg instead of running shoes but I forced myself through it.  Still not where I would like to be but it is getting better.  Hang in there everyone!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on August 09, 2012, 10:11:43 AM
Just reporting in that I'm up to 15 pounds lost and my wife has dropped 20 lbs since we started this routine.  We haven't stayed with it verbatim, but I think it definitely sped up the initial process of working out for months and months and not seeing any progress before weight just starts melting off.  We are still doing the cardio/weight training thing on weekends but I have taken to just running during the week and she is doing cardio and swimming during the week.  Yesterday was the hottest day of the year so far in So Cal and I ran 4 miles in it against my will.  I wasn't feeling it, if you know what I mean.  It took forever...  Seemed like I was wearing 20 lb boots on each leg instead of running shoes but I forced myself through it.  Still not where I would like to be but it is getting better.  Hang in there everyone!

Awesome progress! Thanks for sharing and thanks for the inspiration,
Barb T.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on September 17, 2012, 08:35:26 AM
Well here's on way toget the blood moving - Pow Wow dancing.  ;D
- Yowbarb
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Womens Smoke Dance 2008

VIDEO Link: http://youtu.be/c8YSIhD4XOM

Uploaded by ChevyHawk on Jan 5, 2011
Schemitzun 2008 Pow Wow with champion Smoke Dancer Valerie Parker in the dark pink dress.

Yowbarb Note:
I posted this in the Native American survival, Post it all board.

Schemitzun =  Feast of the Green Corn and Dance
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Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on September 28, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
Well here's on way toget the blood moving - Pow Wow dancing.  ;D
- Yowbarb
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Womens Smoke Dance 2008

VIDEO Link: http://youtu.be/c8YSIhD4XOM

Uploaded by ChevyHawk on Jan 5, 2011
Schemitzun 2008 Pow Wow with champion Smoke Dancer Valerie Parker in the dark pink dress.

Yowbarb Note:
I posted this in the Native American survival, Post it all board.

Schemitzun =  Feast of the Green Corn and Dance
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Great Post and Video Barb, don't know how I had missed it before...Thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on September 29, 2012, 04:28:59 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on October 18, 2012, 07:37:28 PM
HOW NOT TO LOSE WEIGHT!!!
 
Hey all, I promised Barb I would post this here, and so I will...  A little background info here:
 
For those who don't know, I am a career US Marine and am getting up there in "Marine Years," so to speak.  Incidentally, I just dropped my retirement papers today, yeay!  At any rate, we have to maintain certain height and weight standards and what used to be easy for me is no longer so easy, to say the least.  At any rate, I have always been measured at 68" tall which means I need to be under 180lbs or 20% body fat, either/or.  Well, I have been hanging around 182 to 187 lbs and 15-18% body fat for at least 5 years now. 
 
Well, in order to drop retirement papers I have to make weight, no body fat percentage.  They measured me at 67" and 185 lbs two days ago.  With me losing an inch in height I had to get under 175 lbs. (Incidentally, the best shape I have ever been in my life was 9 years ago when I was 165 lbs, 5% body fat and a nice set of six pack abs to boot...)
 
So, here is how NOT to lose weight folks as this is JUST NOT HEALTHY...  For 48 hours I ate nothing but grapefruit, ran 15 miles, popped diet pills like they were cool (legal - over the counter), and spent 2 hours in the sauna.
 
Dehydrated and weak I weighed in at 173 this afternoon and dropped papers 30 minutes later.  I was so hungry I came straight home and scarfed 2 cans of chicken noodle soup (Cambell's Chunky). 
 
At any rate, we have all talked about healthy ways to lose weight in here for some time now.  While my weight, (185) two days ago, hasn't changed that much from when we started talking about this, my composition has, as my wife and I work out a lot.  I am more muscular now than I was in April and even though the scale doesn't reflect, I am in much better shape now than I was then.  That is what you are shooting for, not just empirical evidence on a scale.
 
I am all about eating healthy and working out and who cares what a scale says if you feel and look good?  That is a big reason why I am retiring early, I'm tired of fighting a scale.  Maybe I am a little biased, but I think I look pretty good for a 43 year old male and I'm still in better shape than your average 43 year old civilian male.
 
You don't have to be Arnold Schwarzenegger or Jackie Joyner Kersey to survive the coming changes.  Just get in decent shape and stay healthy...
 
Hang in there friends and kep on keepin' on...  JKB
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 19, 2012, 01:38:50 PM
JKB - Kyle! Wow what a story! I am sooo proud of you that you achieved your goal and were able to put in your retirement papers! That is an awesome story. I know how difficult that must have been for you, but you can be - and must be - so proud you
got that done!
Some thoughts: When a person gets on to middle years and then loses height they likely still have the same amount of bone mass and weight. I'm not an expert on it but in my case I lost an inch after five kids and lots of physical labor and lifting stuff and shlepping stuff around for years. By about 50 I had dropped an inch the doc said my spine had gone out to the side a bit, possibly from five big babies and all the physical work.
So to expect a person in middle or later years to weigh less just because they lost an inch
in height really is a bit tyrannical -  but then you know that, hehe.
You're the expert on that so you know what I mean!  :)
You could sell your method to a modeling agency and/or all the twiggy models in the world...
Every once in awhile, models are desperate to drop 10-12 pounds by a deadline to make the gig.
LOL!!
I am so very glad you will not have to do that again, and yes the scale has naught to do with it, if you (as in your case) already know your body well and how fit you actually are. !
I hope the retirement is generous, I am sure you have earned a good retirement. Keep On Keeping On.
I have enjoyed you being on the Town Hall and our correspondence and I hope you will continue to be here until the grid fails. If the grid never does fail we will all go off peacefully and still be mindful of survival but perhaps with less urgency... At any rate, no matter what the future holds it is still really important to get fit and stay fit and you are an inspiration!
- Barb Townsend   
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on November 02, 2012, 04:39:44 AM
Ditto Barb, Thanks so much Kyle for sharing that with us!  Wishing you all the best with retirement!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on November 02, 2012, 12:55:57 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on February 19, 2013, 06:41:51 AM
Hmmm, interesting.  And here I had always thought that whole wheat was good for you!



1 Super-Common Food That’s Ruining Your Skin, Joints & Blood Sugar

by Fiora Stevenson February 6, 2013

Sometimes it’s difficult to discern trend diets from the truth about nutrition. It seems that everyone has an agenda, a special diet, a “limited time offer.” However, we’re here to tell you about one incredibly common food that is absolutely wrecking most people’s skin, joints, and blood sugar.The best part? There’s no agenda here. The worst part? This food is probably in just about every one of your meals. Curious to know what we’re talking about? Wheat.
 
Why Wheat Isn’t All That Great
 
Let’s start at the beginning. The “wheat” we’re referring to is hardly wheat at all. In fact, if you could give someone from the 18th century a baked loaf of bread (even whole wheat), they would hardly even recognize it.
 
Dr. William Davis, a cardiologist, is one of many scientists and doctors that tries to educate others on the truth about modern wheat. If you want to learn more about the distinctions between modern wheat and the “true” wheat of centuries past, check out this interview he did with CBS News.
 

According to this dietary source, the top reasons that people choose to eat grains (fiber and heart health) shouldn’t be quite compelling enough to make wheat a regular part of one’s diet. Fiber and B vitamins can be found in much higher quantities in other foods like collard greens and peas. Essentially, if you can get the nutrients that wheat has to offer from a healthier fruit or vegetable, then you should. There’s nothing in wheat that can’t be found just as easily somewhere else.

http://dailyhealthpost.com/1-super-common-food-thats-ruining-your-skin-joints-blood-sugar/?utm_source=taboola
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on February 19, 2013, 09:35:43 AM
Enlightenme, thanks for posting. Some things to learn - or remember.
For years the only type of what I would consume is spelt or kamut both ancient forms of wheat.
It is so easy for wheat to creep back into one's diet...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 15, 2013, 03:59:25 PM
New Topic in this Board,
- Yowbarb
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Survivalist Heal Thyself  Help for the liver = increased good health  
Started by Yowbarb

Link: https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=4890.msg68781#msg68781

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Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 23, 2013, 12:23:13 PM
This video is about vegetable and fruit juicing and the wonderful things this can do for a body,
Yowbarb
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Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead - Joe Cross appears on The Doctors    5:56  186,387 Views 

Video link:  http://youtu.be/LgjC4zpSFqw
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 19, 2013, 06:32:35 AM
I feel like it's "two steps forward" this morning, sitting here sipping on the raw vegetable and fruit juice.
I really need this every day! Recipe varies.
Today it's
carrots
celery
cucumbers
apples
oranges
lemons
tomatoes
beets,
spinach,
cilantro
bell peppers,
Poblano peppers
Serrano peppers
garlic
ginger

Daughter and I made a big batch... It's the basic antibiotic juice recipe...
- Yowbarb

Image of fresh juice from  http://www.krystaslifeinfood.com/

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7198/6892625864_51c052053a.jpg)

(http://www.truestarhealth.com/Notes/Images/Food_Guide/Poblano_Pepper.jpg)

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Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on June 19, 2013, 06:41:36 AM
PS we put more ingredients in it, than the basic antibiotic recipe...
 ;D
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on August 29, 2013, 12:22:04 AM
Daughter and I managed to crank out a big batch of the antibiotic juice recipe again. I swear I have about five times as much energy when I take the juice. Per the recipe (book posted in Antibiotic Juice Recipe) when you freeze the juice and use that it still ahs a lot of nutrition and has the antibiotic properties. I find that to be true. :)

PS:  Mary Bennett (Enlightenme) »Medicinal Herbs and Foods - 2013 and Beyond »
The antibiotic juice recipe  Started by Yowbarb

Link: https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=4891.0#lastPost
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on September 02, 2013, 11:45:13 AM
That is so awesome Barb.  No fault of my own but I am so far behind the power curve in this area.  It is kind of hard to grow vegetables when you are in the military and constantly on the move.  One good thing is my bug out place has a nice garden with plenty of room to expand.  Secondly, I have been on the new job for a whole two weeks but I already know what we are going to do long term for housing.  There are several employees who all live in the same housing complex and went through the same contractor.  I see no reason to buy a two-story, six bedroom/3 bath house when it is just my wife and I.  Instead, I can get a one-story, 3 bedroom/two bath home, built from the ground up on the plot I pick out for 100K.  Not bad I think.  We hung out with some friends yesterday who live in this neighborhood and they have the 6/3 house.  That thing would easily run 400K in California and they paid 160K.  A year from now we will have our own garden up and running.  If we weren't in the city I'd have some goats and chickens as well.  I am so loving it here in Texas.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on September 02, 2013, 07:52:58 PM
That is so awesome Barb.  No fault of my own but I am so far behind the power curve in this area.  It is kind of hard to grow vegetables when you are in the military and constantly on the move.  One good thing is my bug out place has a nice garden with plenty of room to expand.  Secondly, I have been on the new job for a whole two weeks but I already know what we are going to do long term for housing.  There are several employees who all live in the same housing complex and went through the same contractor.  I see no reason to buy a two-story, six bedroom/3 bath house when it is just my wife and I.  Instead, I can get a one-story, 3 bedroom/two bath home, built from the ground up on the plot I pick out for 100K.  Not bad I think.  We hung out with some friends yesterday who live in this neighborhood and they have the 6/3 house.  That thing would easily run 400K in California and they paid 160K.  A year from now we will have our own garden up and running.  If we weren't in the city I'd have some goats and chickens as well.  I am so loving it here in Texas.
Kyle that sounds awesome the way your new living setup will be. That's also good you plan on gardening too...
Your bugout location will have room for those chickens and goats.  :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on September 05, 2013, 02:06:04 PM
Yowbarb Note:  I can barely pronounce this, let alone tell you I have tried it, but this looks fantastic!  This is a fruit which boosts metabolism and helps the person to effortlessly burn fat.  :)  Garcinia Cambogias.
I am not plugging a certain brand. While looking for info I saw various suppliers, including Dr. Oz.

Some cautions are included in the video below by a medical practioner named M. Cliff.  Purity and source are important when purchasing extracts of this fruit. I hope it sounds Ok I have no sound right now on my computer.
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"Garcinia Cambogias are known to regulate adiponectin, a hormone that causes your body to boost metabolism. In turn, the fat within your cells gets broken up more effectively, helping your body burn fat faster and more efficiently."
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VIDEO:  DO NOT Buy Garcinia Cambogia Until You See This Important Video:

M. Cliff

LINK:  http://youtu.be/dUlsoiQmHes

Published on Feb 16, 2013 
Four IMPORTANT steps to follow before making a purchase: (Press "Show more" to see them all)

1. Choose garcinia cambogia that was manufactured in US or Europe.
2. Always check the label to make sure that there is no ephedrine included in the formula.
3. Verified verified and VERIFIED - you should always choose dietary supplements that are verified - this guarantees the highest quality possible.
4. Don't expect to get quality garcinia cambogia for pennies. Quality garcinia fruit supplements should cost at least $40-$50. Please choose another type of supplement if that would put you into an uncomfortable situation financially.

Brands That I Usually Recommend to my Patients:

1. Verified Garcinia Cambogia (http://verifiedgarciniacambogia.com) - this is definitely one of the oldest brands out there. I have personally witnessed a lot of great results delivered by their supplement and that is why I feel totally comfortable recommending it to my patients and friends/family. The only problem with them is that due to their popularity they are often out of stock. Their official web-page is http://verifiedgarciniacambogia.com

What Is Garcinia Cambogia?

Garcinia cambogia refers to a fruit that usually resembles a pumpkin, but it's much smaller in size. It's a small citrus fruit, which is primarily grown in Asia and South India. Though most Indians do usually use the rind of this fruit as a spice for cooking, the fruit itself normally is quite sour and thus not pleasant to eat.

A substance by the name hydroxycitric acid i.e. HCA extracted from garcinia cambogia is increasingly becoming popular as it normally aids in weight loss. In this write up we are going to look at the effectiveness of garcinia cambogia in weight loss.

Garcinia Cambogia Benefits For Weight Loss

As garcinia cambogia is an effective appetite suppressant, it is capable of increasing the rate of metabolism in your body. Basically, this can enable your body have the ability to effectively burn fats at a very speedy pace, thus resulting in you experiencing weight loss.

Furthermore, the fruit is capable of reducing cravings for food products rich in carbohydrates simply by reducing the levels of serotonin produced in your brain. Due to this reason, garcinia cambogia has been ranked as one of the most effective and essential weight loss supplements that are currently available. Let's have a look at the procedure to be followed when using this fruit for weight loss purposes.

Garcinia Cambogia and Weight Loss

The following are some of the ways you should use this fruit if you want to effectively get rid of your body weight.

*HCA Dosage

If you're that type of person who usually overeats when anxious, it's ideal you consider taking the HCA dosage. Research has found HCA dosage to work good for persons falling under this category.

*Consuming a Sensible Diet

If you put HCA supplement in your diet that consist a reasonable portion of healthy meals, you'll experience a natural as well as steady weight loss hustle free.

Last but not the least: you should consult your physician if you are not sure if this supplement is right for your health condition. The content provided in this video and description was not checked by the FDA. I have no intentions of treating/consulting and diagnosing. Every person is different. Use supplements at your own risk. Thank you.

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Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on November 29, 2013, 06:55:41 AM
The day after Thanksgiving. Soon it will be the Second night of Chanukah.
Perfect time to think about cutting out the rich foods -  when the leftover and seasonal goodies are all eaten up, that is.  :)
More power to all of you who are disciplined this time of year.
I personally do not fall into that category during the Holidays.
 ;)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on December 01, 2013, 04:23:53 PM
I have been going hog-wild since I retired just because I can.  However, I'm going to get back up on the working out bandwagon after the holidays.  I think I'm going to focus more on weightlifting and go running only once a week.  I'm also going to see the doc about getting on testosterone replacement therapy as I can pretty much guarantee I could use it.  That Andro 400 crap is just that, crap.  It doesn't work so guys, save your money if you're thinking of trying it out.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on December 03, 2013, 08:44:44 AM
I have been going hog-wild since I retired just because I can.  However, I'm going to get back up on the working out bandwagon after the holidays.  I think I'm going to focus more on weightlifting and go running only once a week.  I'm also going to see the doc about getting on testosterone replacement therapy as I can pretty much guarantee I could use it.  That Andro 400 crap is just that, crap.  It doesn't work so guys, save your money if you're thinking of trying it out.

JKB it's good to hear from you on fitness again.
Sounds like you have a good plan on your workout schedule.
(Were it not for my knees I would be running.) We are going to go pick up an elliptical (paid for) and daughter Gab will assemble it.
That should help.
We got the used treadmill too. Room for both and a big TV to watch meanwhile...

What brand of that stuff do you recommend? Does it always have to be through a doc?
Low T is apparently very treatable...good to hear some ideas on it...
- Barb T.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on December 06, 2013, 04:09:23 PM
You will enjoy the eliptical machine Barb.  It is low impact but can still give you a decent workout.  Testosterone is a male hormone, although I have heard of women taking it too and getting results, and as far as I know you do have to go through a doctor to get the real stuff.  Testosterone therapy is all the rage now days and so doctors are prescribing it pretty liberally.  From what everyone is saying, it turns men in their 40's close to what they were in their 20's as far as metabolism and energy, injury recovery time, fat loss, and yes, sex drive.  It wouldn't hurt to talk to your doctor and see if this is for women as well, or if there is an alternative for women.
 
The Andro 400 I was referring to is heavily advertised on all of the sports AM radio stations. A Marine friend and I both tried it (for 6 months) with ZERO results.  Don't waste your money on that trash.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on December 06, 2013, 05:29:18 PM
You will enjoy the eliptical machine Barb.  It is low impact but can still give you a decent workout.  Testosterone is a male hormone, although I have heard of women taking it too and getting results, and as far as I know you do have to go through a doctor to get the real stuff.  Testosterone therapy is all the rage now days and so doctors are prescribing it pretty liberally.  From what everyone is saying, it turns men in their 40's close to what they were in their 20's as far as metabolism and energy, injury recovery time, fat loss, and yes, sex drive.  It wouldn't hurt to talk to your doctor and see if this is for women as well, or if there is an alternative for women.
 
The Andro 400 I was referring to is heavily advertised on all of the sports AM radio stations. A Marine friend and I both tried it (for 6 months) with ZERO results.  Don't waste your money on that trash.

JKB thanks for the insight on the elliptical. My daughter Gab seemed to think it could work.
That is heartening.  :)
No T. for me...I don't know anyone currently trying to take it...just wanted to know what is a good brand in case I run into someone who needs to know.  So if you do know a good brand can U post it?
I'm done with the female hormone replacement therapy...seemed to make me feel better for awhile but had some odd physical perhaps toxic reactions (to what I don't know) so decided to stop taking it. Been off it for years...
Thanks.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on January 02, 2014, 07:52:53 AM
Has anyone seen the video titled:  "Fat, sick, and almost dead?"  I watched it on Netflix and was truly inspired.  It is about an Australian man who struggled all his adult life with weight problems and then he got an autoimmune disease and had to take all kinds of prescription medication.  He finally had enough and he started a 60 day juice fast.  There is a lot more to the video than just his journey back to health, but I will not detail it here.  It is a wonderful video, informative but also very entertaining.  My daughter and son in law watched it last night and they also were very impressed and want to do the protocol.

I have steadily fallen into bad eating habits and have struggled with my weight for several years.  It is now getting to the point I cannot ignore it anymore.  I am purchasing a juicer and going to do a 10 day juice fast.  Then I will eat a plant based diet.  I hope to wean off of coffee, coke, sugar, meat and dairy.  I hope to eat a plant based diet as I am convinced it is the best for the body.

Recently I have watched several videos on Netflix about our standard diet and the dangerous effects to our health.  I feel that time is running short and I need to get serious about my health.  I have also joined the gym and start next week.  I will keep you all posted periodically on my progress.

My desire is to improve my health, get off all prescription medications, cure the sleep apnea, and become stronger physically and increase my strength and stamina.

I hope all of you, regardless of whether or not you have weight issues will watch this video.  I highly recommend it.  He also has a website with tons of great information, just type in "Fat, sick and almost dead" in your search bar and you will find it.

Happy New Year to all, and I encourage you all to make good heath decisions as part of your new year's resolutions.  I expect some hard times this year for all of us and now is the time to become the best we can be in order to face them.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Aldwyn on January 02, 2014, 08:04:57 AM
I would advise that video to everyone as well.  I watched it a long time ago but it made me change then.  I have never done that protocol but I started eating better and less.  It inspired me to exercise and eat better and over the course of about 18 months I lost 100 lbs. 

The most important information I can think of is simple though... eat well and let your food be your medicine and move your body.  It is hard but it will be hard when the SHTF.  Good luck to all in getting fit.
- Aldwyn
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: ilinda on January 02, 2014, 08:18:59 PM
Has anyone seen the video titled:  "Fat, sick, and almost dead?"  I watched it on Netflix and was truly inspired.  It is about an Australian man who struggled all his adult life with weight problems and then he got an autoimmune disease and had to take all kinds of prescription medication.  He finally had enough and he started a 60 day juice fast.  There is a lot more to the video than just his journey back to health, but I will not detail it here.  It is a wonderful video, informative but also very entertaining.  My daughter and son in law watched it last night and they also were very impressed and want to do the protocol.

I have steadily fallen into bad eating habits and have struggled with my weight for several years.  It is now getting to the point I cannot ignore it anymore.  I am purchasing a juicer and going to do a 10 day juice fast.  Then I will eat a plant based diet.  I hope to wean off of coffee, coke, sugar, meat and dairy.  I hope to eat a plant based diet as I am convinced it is the best for the body.

Recently I have watched several videos on Netflix about our standard diet and the dangerous effects to our health.  I feel that time is running short and I need to get serious about my health.  I have also joined the gym and start next week.  I will keep you all posted periodically on my progress.

My desire is to improve my health, get off all prescription medications, cure the sleep apnea, and become stronger physically and increase my strength and stamina.

I hope all of you, regardless of whether or not you have weight issues will watch this video.  I highly recommend it.  He also has a website with tons of great information, just type in "Fat, sick and almost dead" in your search bar and you will find it.

Happy New Year to all, and I encourage you all to make good heath decisions as part of your new year's resolutions.  I expect some hard times this year for all of us and now is the time to become the best we can be in order to face them.

Congratulations for wanting to improve your health.  It's probably the most important thing you can do.  I won't advise one way or another regarding eliminating meat or dairy, but will say that raw, organic, homemade yogurt is a big item in my life, but I wouldn't touch grocery store yogurt, or pasteurized, homogenized milk products of any kind.  I do believe there is a major difference between raw, organic dairy and pasteurized, non-organic dairy.

Weaning yourself of coffee, coike and sugar will probably help you more than anything else, especially since they are not foods.  They are edible and taste good ( to some) but still, they are not food, as you already know.  It is amazing how much non-food stuff we humans eat, when we could be ingesting real fruits, vegetables, and nuts.  Well, my 2 cents.
GOOD LUCK!
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on January 03, 2014, 10:12:08 AM
ilinda:  Thanks for the encouragement.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 06, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
Has anyone seen the video titled:  "Fat, sick, and almost dead?"  I watched it on Netflix and was truly inspired.  It is about an Australian man who struggled all his adult life with weight problems and then he got an autoimmune disease and had to take all kinds of prescription medication.  He finally had enough and he started a 60 day juice fast.  There is a lot more to the video than just his journey back to health, but I will not detail it here.  It is a wonderful video, informative but also very entertaining.  My daughter and son in law watched it last night and they also were very impressed and want to do the protocol.

I have steadily fallen into bad eating habits and have struggled with my weight for several years.  It is now getting to the point I cannot ignore it anymore.  I am purchasing a juicer and going to do a 10 day juice fast.  Then I will eat a plant based diet.  I hope to wean off of coffee, coke, sugar, meat and dairy.  I hope to eat a plant based diet as I am convinced it is the best for the body.

Recently I have watched several videos on Netflix about our standard diet and the dangerous effects to our health.  I feel that time is running short and I need to get serious about my health.  I have also joined the gym and start next week.  I will keep you all posted periodically on my progress.

My desire is to improve my health, get off all prescription medications, cure the sleep apnea, and become stronger physically and increase my strength and stamina.

I hope all of you, regardless of whether or not you have weight issues will watch this video.  I highly recommend it.  He also has a website with tons of great information, just type in "Fat, sick and almost dead" in your search bar and you will find it.

Happy New Year to all, and I encourage you all to make good heath decisions as part of your new year's resolutions.  I expect some hard times this year for all of us and now is the time to become the best we can be in order to face them.

Endtimesgal, I'm not sure if you got my PM thanking you for sharing your thoughts.
Good Luck with all of it.
I am struggling. Some progress. One step forward...
Going to keep trying.  ;)
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 10, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
http://www.everydayhealth.com/stroke/mini-stroke-treatment.aspx   

TIA: Mini-Stroke Treatment Options

It's called a transient ischemic attack, and it's not a random event. A TIA stroke is often a warning sign; it's your body telling you to get treatment, fast.

The type of stroke known as a TIA, or transient ischemic attack, can strike quickly, be over in only a few minutes, and leave its victim wondering what just happened. But don’t be fooled: Just because the TIA passed quickly and symptoms have stopped does not mean that it doesn't require treatment.

Also called a mini-stroke or a warning stroke, a TIA resembles a stroke in that they have similar symptoms. And more importantly, like a tremor before an earthquake, a TIA is your body’s way of telling you a bigger stroke could be coming.

TIA Stroke: Mimicking Serious Stroke
Any of the following symptoms can indicate a stroke and warrant immediate medical attention. If they last for only a short time, you are likely having a TIA. Immediate treatment is still required since your body is telling you something is wrong if you have these symptoms: Weakness in your arm, hand, or leg
Numbness on one side of your body
Sudden difficulty seeing in one or both eyes
Sudden confusion and trouble speaking
Inability to understand what someone is saying
Dizziness or loss of balance and coordination
Sudden and severe headache

TIA Stroke: What's Happening?

A TIA occurs when the blood supply to the brain is cut off because of some type of blockage, which can be a narrowed blood vessel or a blood clot. The difference between a TIA and an ischemic stroke is that a TIA quickly resolves itself because the blockage is temporary, and no damage is done to the brain. But what's so important about a TIA is that it is a huge predictor of a larger stroke.

"TIAs are a highly under-recognized emergency. A TIA is a warning sign that you might suffer a stroke. If you suffer a TIA, you have a 5 percent chance of having a stroke in the next 48 hours," says Arthur M. Pancioli, MD, distinguished professor of clinical research in emergency medicine at the University of Cincinnati College of Medicine in Ohio.

TIA Stroke: How It's Treated

Treatment of a TIA focuses on figuring out the cause and fixing it, to ward off a more serious stroke.

"We quickly examine these patients to look for a cause: Do they have a narrow vessel that we could potentially fix? An abnormality in the heart such that clots are passing from one side to the other? These are the kind of things you want to discover very quickly to prevent ensuing stroke," says Dr. Pancioli. "Almost anyone who has a TIA should end up on some sort of a preventive medication, at least aspirin or something like it."

Treatment doesn’t end in the emergency room. Patients also need "another workup within at least a week to look at risk factors, what things we can modify to try to diminish their long-term risk. If we can't prevent ‘forever,’ let's put it off a long time," says Pancioli. "All too often I hear of stories of someone who had a TIA and didn’t get an aggressive workup until it's too late."

TIA Stroke: Prevention

Once the cause of the stroke has been identified and treated, a patient is evaluated for other stroke risk factors. Risk factors for stroke include diabetes, high blood pressure, family history, smoking, and heart disease. Blood thinning medications, called anticoagulants, and antiplatelet medications, medicine that prevents blood clots from forming, are often prescribed after a TIA to prevent stroke.
If doctors have discovered plaque or other build-up in the blood vessels that caused the stroke, surgery may be performed to allow blood to flow freely through the vessels and prevent another attack. Surgery may include: Carotid endarterectomy: This is a surgical procedure in which plaque is removed from the carotid artery in the neck.
Angioplasty: During angioplasty, doctors place a catheter inside the blocked artery, expand it, and then insert a small metal stent that opens up the blood vessel to improve blood flow.

TIA Stroke: Lifestyle Modifications

Dietary changes are often recommended after a TIA, particularly for TIA patients who have stroke risk factors like diabetes and high blood pressure. A low-fat, low-sodium diet can help keep stroke risk factors in check.

TIA Stroke: A Wakeup Call

A TIA means that you've escaped an actual stroke and the significant damage it wreaks on the body for now. If you notice stroke symptoms that seem to go away quickly, you are likely having a TIA and should seek immediate emergency care. Go to an emergency room right away for a thorough examination to pinpoint what caused the TIA, get it fixed, and find out what you can do to make sure it doesn't happen again.

In addition, see your doctor regularly to make sure any stroke risk factors you may have are kept under control, and that you're doing everything you can to prevent a serious stroke from occurring.
 Last Updated: 03/25/2009   
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on January 12, 2014, 01:04:43 PM
Pain is weakness leaving the body.  USMC
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: bk on January 12, 2014, 08:25:05 PM
Joined the gym Sat. I can feel the weakness leaving the body today  ;D
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: JKB on January 13, 2014, 04:05:01 PM
Ha ha ha...  Cool.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on January 13, 2014, 09:34:15 PM
I start next week, I hope I can stick with it.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: bk on January 14, 2014, 02:16:37 AM
Planet Fitness just had a special $10 to join $10 a month. I joined because they are open 24/7 so I went to the gym at 4 A.M. today and beat the crowd.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 14, 2014, 11:31:11 AM
I start next week, I hope I can stick with it.

Endtimesgal that's awesome! All the best of luck with that.
I think I have Curves free with my Supplemental health plan and I have a Tai Chi video too from my plan...Time to start making time for that...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 17, 2014, 07:38:33 PM
Joined the gym Sat. I can feel the weakness leaving the body today  ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 11, 2014, 09:41:30 AM
Yowbarb Note: This latest thing I am doing  - I feel it actually will work with a minimum of fuss and work and that is important!  :)
This may sound like a commercial but here it is.  It is for reals. I posted this on a friends News feed:

Daughter Gab got us a Nutri Bullet. On sale, COSTCO. Wow! and Joellen and Ryan got one and use it too, now. Take a small dab of kale or whatever, a couple pieces fruit or veg perhaps some raw cashews fill halfway up to fill line with good water. Push it down and let it whiz around for like 45 seconds and voila! Breakfast! Yumm. This AM I made one for Gabby - early AM she had to leave. Small bit kale/spinach mixture, three slices unsweetened pineapple some of the juice; three baby carrots two radishes and so good! I haven't been able to try the recipes which use raw cashews walnuts goji berries etc. For the protein. Off red meat and hardly any meat protein. Nutri bullet = Lots more energy.  From start to finish including rinsing the blade part = five minutes!! end of my own Facebook post.
...
Yowbarb Note: Article images below are from Happenstance Home blog, Lydia. Great stuff!
Closing Note: Important take a minute and read the little pamphlet it takes hardly any fruit and veg etc. to make the drink. Only about halfway up in the container! In spite of what anyone may say or blog, do use the required amt. of water to the fill line!  ;D 
http://happenstanceathome.blogspot.com/2012/08/where-my-focus-has-been-nutribullet.html 

............................................

Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 11, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
I forgot to mention you can use these ingredients too. Listed below. I do recommend start with the heavier ingredients such as the raw oatmeal, granola, wheat germ raw cashews, walnuts, Goji berries etc. On the bottom but leave room for and do not and neglect those life-giving raw greens such as kale, some fruit. Daughter just wants the liver-cleanse type drinks in the AM before work. I will make that and split it with her. About mid-morning I will have one with some protein sources added such as listed below. I am not eating the meat like she is so I need some granola, nuts, yogurt. I plan to do two per day for me.  :)
(See Nutri Bullet Recipes)
Raw oatmeal,
regular oatmeal,
granola,
raw cashews,
walnuts
protein powder
yogurt
as well as the dark greens and fruits.  ;)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on March 11, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
A friend of mine just got one of those, and now I'm just a tad jealous...I want one too!!  ;D  So glad you got one, hopefully we can start sharing some good recipes soon!  Now that I'm no longer a smoker, everything I eat tastes so good, everything I smell, smells so good....Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 12, 2014, 09:38:08 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2014, 08:10:32 AM
A friend of mine just got one of those, and now I'm just a tad jealous...I want one too!!  ;D  So glad you got one, hopefully we can start sharing some good recipes soon!  Now that I'm no longer a smoker, everything I eat tastes so good, everything I smell, smells so good....Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Update: I have dropped 5-7 pounds since beginning the Nutri Bullet regime. It is so idiot simple and fun.
I make one for daughter to take out the door in the AM.
A frequent combo: A green mixture of kale chard and spinach (many stores have.) A few peeled baby carrots - just about 3. Celery. Cucumber or radish etc. Natural Greek Yogurt plain. For my own I add a dab of honey and this AM I added a few T of granola which has slivered almonds in it. Fill it part way up and add the purified water. Press it down and it grinds it all up. Start to finish drinks for both of us = ten minutes max.
 :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 25, 2014, 08:15:41 AM
Frozen or fresh banana. I forgot been using that for past few days too. Also been using some frozen fruit. Bulk packs. Some varieties have too many seeds so it takes a bit of experimentation. I use a combo with peaches, pineapple a few strawberries but I don't but many strawberries seeds galore.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: enlightenme on March 25, 2014, 04:11:42 PM
A friend of mine just got one of those, and now I'm just a tad jealous...I want one too!!  ;D  So glad you got one, hopefully we can start sharing some good recipes soon!  Now that I'm no longer a smoker, everything I eat tastes so good, everything I smell, smells so good....Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Update: I have dropped 5-7 pounds since beginning the Nutri Bullet regime. It is so idiot simple and fun.
I make one for daughter to take out the door in the AM.
A frequent combo: A green mixture of kale chard and spinach (many stores have.) A few peeled baby carrots - just about 3. Celery. Cucumber or radish etc. Natural Greek Yogurt plain. For my own I add a dab of honey and this AM I added a few T of granola which has slivered almonds in it. Fill it part way up and add the purified water. Press it down and it grinds it all up. Start to finish drinks for both of us = ten minutes max.
 :)

Excellent Barb, Good for you!!  :)  I still didn't get to Walmart to pick one up, but hopefully this week sometime.  I'm overdue for a trip there!  Keep up the good Work!!  ;D
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 26, 2014, 01:07:14 PM
Enlightenme I would be soo happy if you got one on the w.e.  8)
There is a diff between the Magic Bullet and the Nutri bullet. Same company but the Nutri bullet the newer invention, (U probably know all that.)  :) The $49 deal may have been Magic Bullet.
Not remembering the price - saw the Nutri Bullet on shelves at WalMart the other day...
One important thing is leave room in the Bullet and add water  - leaves more room for the grinding. The largest container is a good size. That makes two modest servings if you only have time to do two - one for hubby.
I add yogurt and a tad honey and sometimes granola as well when I have the whole thing to myself. When I make that larger amount for myself it helps keeps me functioning and working for hours.
Often I just make one to share with Gab and if I feel like honey I add it when done. She doesn't want any honey...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: ilinda on March 26, 2014, 04:54:35 PM
Wow!  Congrats on the 5-7# weight loss, Barb.   Do you feel it is due to the Magic Bullet/Nutri Bullet and now you're getting lots and lots of fresh fruits and veggies?  I think I may have seen one a friend brought to our "Movie Night" last weekend.  He showed how you just fill it and then push down and it does its thing and then you have a puree like mix.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: pbutter72 on March 26, 2014, 06:14:07 PM
I forgot to mention you can use these ingredients too. Listed below. I do recommend start with the heavier ingredients such as the raw oatmeal, granola, wheat germ raw cashews, walnuts, Goji berries etc. On the bottom but leave room for and do not and neglect those life-giving raw greens such as kale, some fruit. Daughter just wants the liver-cleanse type drinks in the AM before work. I will make that and split it with her. About mid-morning I will have one with some protein sources added such as listed below. I am not eating the meat like she is so I need some granola, nuts, yogurt. I plan to do two per day for me.  :)
(See Nutri Bullet Recipes)
Raw oatmeal,
regular oatmeal,
granola,
raw cashews,
walnuts
protein powder
yogurt
as well as the dark greens and fruits.  ;)

Yum! I have to try this for sure :)
Thank you for Sharing
~pB
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 28, 2014, 09:45:00 AM
I recommend everyone get a couple of these. (Nutribullet.) Maybe order some extra containers too. The largest plastic container which fits onto the grinder makes enough drink for two people.
I made some for my daughter today and sent her off with the big batch. Banana, a few pieces frozen fruit, plain Greek yogurt, mixed greens, including kale, a few baby carrots about a 3" piece of peeled cucumber. Water.
Then I made a batch for myself. Daughter doesn't seem to want the nuts and seeds today I used pumpkin seeds and sunflowers seeds (both raw) for mine. Threw in the last ripe banana since it wouldn't keep.  ;D  All the same ingredients listed above. Yumm.
Oh I do add a bit of honey for myself.  ;) Not everyone wants that...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 14, 2014, 11:08:02 AM
I just dropped a pound or two...not really trying too hard.
99% vegetarian. Today my son BBQ'd - including some turkey hotdogs (and didn't want to turn it all down) so I had one of those.
Hardly eat any meat and don't feel like I need it ...
Still some Nutribullets...allowing some summer ice cream treats...(Autumn but still up to 95 here a lot of the time.)
Vegeburgers, salads, etc. Cooked up a batch of Aduki beans from scratch. One of my staples the last time I was vegetarian...I am ovo lacto, allowing a few eggs here and there. Some skim mozarella... Non-fat Greek Yogurt with a dab of honey, mango jam or apple butter. I eat peanut butter and grain bread...some white french bread. Main fats are olive oil and coconut oil, sesame. Weakness -bread and butter...
Dropped about 18 pounds, pretty slowly...
Not hard to do this way...
I still have a long way to go...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on October 14, 2014, 11:16:36 AM
Wow!  Congrats on the 5-7# weight loss, Barb.   Do you feel it is due to the Magic Bullet/Nutri Bullet and now you're getting lots and lots of fresh fruits and veggies?  I think I may have seen one a friend brought to our "Movie Night" last weekend.  He showed how you just fill it and then push down and it does its thing and then you have a puree like mix.

ilinda thanks for the encouraging words.  :) Yes I do feel like it is mainly the Nutribulet...
Also I've been cutting back just a lot  on the animal fat...actually I cut back a lot.
I went off of pork decades ago...never did feel good when I consumed it...
I don't drink milk but I do allow skim Greek yogurt and skim or low fat cheese...Eggs in some form or another perhaps three times a month.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on December 18, 2014, 01:03:01 AM
I'm still hanging in. Down to the weight I was at about eight years ago.
I have a long way to go, yet.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on December 18, 2014, 01:05:33 AM
I find that if I include some dairy and legumes such as the easy to cook packs of Madras lentils, I do OK. I am mainly vegetarian... only eat a bite of something when offered...one of my kids cooks it, etc. No pork.
I allow some toast and jams and jellies... less likely to binge on fattening desserts, that way.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 31, 2015, 05:54:01 AM
One thing I do which is quick and seems to help me with my immune system and weight...even if I'm not juicing fresh.  Granted fresh juicing is best but I like to keep three ingredients around: Cranberry juice, Louisiana Hot Sauce (cayenne) and Diatomaceous earth.
Cranberry juice from the store. I'm not that much of a purist and I find that even cheap cranberry juice with some sugar in it has a lot of good medicinal qualities for me. (Everyone is different.) There are inexpensive kinds which have no high fructose corn syrup...
These three taste good to me.
This past week I took a few doses of this and it is having a detoxifying effect.
My weight dropped a couple pounds.
Overall lost 23 pounds in past year or so...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: ilinda on January 31, 2015, 07:54:29 AM
One thing I do which is quick and seems to help me with my immune system and weight...even if I'm not juicing fresh.  Granted fresh juicing is best but I like to keep three ingredients around: Cranberry juice, Louisiana Hot Sauce (cayenne) and Diatomaceous earth.
Cranberry juice from the store. I'm not that much of a purist and I find that even cheap cranberry juice with some sugar in it has a lot of good medicinal qualities for me. (Everyone is different.) There are inexpensive kinds which have no high fructose corn syrup...
These three taste good to me.
This past week I took a few doses of this and it is having a detoxifying effect.
My weight dropped a couple pounds.
Overall lost 23 pounds in past year or so...
Wow!  Congratulations--that's about 2 pounds per month.

Curious about the DE.  Off and on I toy with using it.  We bought some for the goats, but it is food grade and acceptable for an organic operation, so I assume that is what you are using--food grade.  Are you using it for a specific purpose, or just because it's "good for us"?  It is reported to be high in minerals, but I'm not sure which, and how many minerals.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 31, 2015, 09:58:03 AM
One thing I do which is quick and seems to help me with my immune system and weight...even if I'm not juicing fresh.  Granted fresh juicing is best but I like to keep three ingredients around: Cranberry juice, Louisiana Hot Sauce (cayenne) and Diatomaceous earth.
Cranberry juice from the store. I'm not that much of a purist and I find that even cheap cranberry juice with some sugar in it has a lot of good medicinal qualities for me. (Everyone is different.) There are inexpensive kinds which have no high fructose corn syrup...
These three taste good to me.
This past week I took a few doses of this and it is having a detoxifying effect.
My weight dropped a couple pounds.
Overall lost 23 pounds in past year or so...
Wow!  Congratulations--that's about 2 pounds per month.

Curious about the DE.  Off and on I toy with using it.  We bought some for the goats, but it is food grade and acceptable for an organic operation, so I assume that is what you are using--food grade.  Are you using it for a specific purpose, or just because it's "good for us"?  It is reported to be high in minerals, but I'm not sure which, and how many minerals.

ilinda -   thanks for the reply. :) How do the goats like it? My cats seem more peaceful when I smoothe some into their fur especially places they cannot reach very well. Some mixed in their food; nutritional component makes them calmer... I use the DE  - human food grade or perhaps it just said food grade. I have it for a couple of the main uses which are listed for DE. Over all cleansing and detoxifying, for the nutrition, for cardiovascular health and weight loss...skin, etc. 
Although I have been looking into the many uses and success stories about diatomaceous earth I haven't been using it as regularly as I should. Back on it..  Can't consider myself an expert, yet.  I posted a long long list of wonderful success stories. Some people call it Holy Dirt.  Discussions in these Topics: (I see you posted too.) :)
Alternative Medicine - Herbs, Foods and Methods - 2014 and Beyond  Healing plants, herbs and foods
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=384.msg81964#msg81964

SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF / Re: Survivalist home medicines and natural home cures to help get rid of parasites
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=4598.msg80531#msg80531

SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF / Re: Diatomaceous Earth may help with cardiovascular problems! Arteries, etc.https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=5463.msg78580#msg78580

SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF / Re: Remedies for itchy skin - common pests or Morgollons
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=5049.msg82504#msg82504

CANCER CURES: A collection of natural substances recommended to prevent/cure cancer
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=77.msg66625#msg66625
Well, you have probably seen these...wanted to share with readers...
I plan to learn a lot more and post an article or two more.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on January 31, 2015, 10:05:55 AM
PS We ordered two grades of it last year. Human food grade and regular. It is definitely not the pool type it is for consumption ...Someone posted a caution on not getting the swimming pool type  ::)  but I knew better than to do that.

We have the DE and give the food grade to the cats too.

The other bag we smoothe into their fur, we used to sprinkle it around in the worst of the flea season.  Other pests - seemed to help get rid of them...
Also ants. In the hottest time of summer and the worst of the ant season we did need to put some food out on the front porch. The DE stopped the ants from arriving on the dry cat food.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: ilinda on February 01, 2015, 08:33:53 AM
PS We ordered two grades of it last year. Human food grade and regular. It is definitely not the pool type it is for consumption ...Someone posted a caution on not getting the swimming pool type  ::)  but I knew better than to do that.

We have the DE and give the food grade to the cats too.

The other bag we smoothe into their fur, we used to sprinkle it around in the worst of the flea season.  Other pests - seemed to help get rid of them...
Also ants. In the hottest time of summer and the worst of the ant season we did need to put some food out on the front porch. The DE stopped the ants from arriving on the dry cat food.
You had asked in your earlier DE post about how the goats like it?  We use it on the goats the same way you do on the cats, and in fact, I also use it on the cats' fur, carefully rubbing/brushing it in to combat fleas.

On the goats, so far, it has been used for lice, and a few other times when they began itching a lot and I just figured they have the beginning of another louse/lice infestation.  It does work, and I'm always cautious not to inhale it or allow it to be dusted around carelessly as the goats have to breathe too.

I have read numerous accounts that it can be used as a dewormer in many animals, but haven't tried that yet.

Overall, I'm satisfied with it, and plan eventually to try it as food grade assist-type thing for self.

I do remember you had posted a LOT about DE in the past.  It apparently has many, many uses.
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on February 02, 2015, 08:28:21 AM
PS We ordered two grades of it last year. Human food grade and regular. It is definitely not the pool type it is for consumption ...Someone posted a caution on not getting the swimming pool type  ::)  but I knew better than to do that.

We have the DE and give the food grade to the cats too.

The other bag we smoothe into their fur, we used to sprinkle it around in the worst of the flea season.  Other pests - seemed to help get rid of them...
Also ants. In the hottest time of summer and the worst of the ant season we did need to put some food out on the front porch. The DE stopped the ants from arriving on the dry cat food.
You had asked in your earlier DE post about how the goats like it?  We use it on the goats the same way you do on the cats, and in fact, I also use it on the cats' fur, carefully rubbing/brushing it in to combat fleas.

On the goats, so far, it has been used for lice, and a few other times when they began itching a lot and I just figured they have the beginning of another louse/lice infestation.  It does work, and I'm always cautious not to inhale it or allow it to be dusted around carelessly as the goats have to breathe too.

I have read numerous accounts that it can be used as a dewormer in many animals, but haven't tried that yet.

Overall, I'm satisfied with it, and plan eventually to try it as food grade assist-type thing for self.

I do remember you had posted a LOT about DE in the past.  It apparently has many, many uses.
ilinda - it's great to read how you use it on your farm.  :)
BTW I really like goats! Such intelligent, talkative and funny creatures. I had given my young "kiddos" raw goat milk for a time when we lived in Topanga Canyon, so CA area. A lady up there sold the raw goat milk.

True - DE is used as a dewormer for animals and humans alike. I am not the expert on exact dose... there is probably a reference somewhere on max dose for goats and other farm animals.

For cats (I must admit haven't done it regularly lately but will get back to it) I mix a small teaspoonful into a plate of cat food or tuna. If it's much more than that not all the cats will eat it. When I have given it to the cats in their food as well, they immediately start to act more peaceful.
Today is the day I need to give the cats some again... It doesn't seem to work as well just sprinkling it on their dry food but they will eat some of it that way...
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on February 02, 2015, 09:11:50 AM
Anyway - DE does help normalize the weight... This is just an article and site I randomly found online. The company is in Australia. Video on this page.
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http://diatomaceousearth.net.au/weight-loss-using-diatomaceous-earth/

Diatomaceous Earth (DE), otherwise known as fossil shell flour, comes with a lot of benefits to our health. It originates from diatoms. Diatoms are basically fossilized exoskeletons of hard shelled algae. The algae can be found in water and are the basic food of aquatic life just like grass is the basic food for most land animals. It has been used for several years to aid in weight loss as well as helping the body get rid of toxins.

Some of the deposits of DE can be found on the earth and take the form of naturally occurring soft, siliceous sedimentary rock. The rock is usually crashed to form a white powder, fossil shell flour. The powder is light and has a slight abrasive feel. The fossil shell flour is safe for human consumption but inhaling it can irritate the lungs, eyes and nostrils. It should therefore be kept in places where it won’t be blown into the air.

What is a Diatomaceous Earth Cleanse?

One of the many benefits and uses of DE is to detoxify and cleanse the body. Every day our bodies are exposed to a number of toxins either through consumption or inhalation. These various toxins feed on nutrients found in our bodies while others slow down our bodily functions especially metabolism.  Through the use of the fossil shell flour, we are able to rid our bodies and the digestive tract of these toxins.

How It Works

Diatomaceous Earth is cylindrically shaped with very sharp edges. These edges are too fine to effect the human body and tissue but shred becteria.  The sharp edges basically scrape away bacteria, virus and parasites that are stuck to the walls of our digestive tract. Once you begin using the supplement, the results will not be instant. The process may take 7, 14 or 30 days before any significant results can start to show. It also depends on how long it has been since you detoxed.

Beginners should consume a teaspoon mixed in a quarter cup of water or juice. It can be taken with food or with a drink. If it is to be taken with a drink, it should be thoroughly stirred to ensure that it is well mixed because the particles tend to settle at the bottom sometimes.

Apart from cleaning the digestive tract a DE detox has a number of benefits to the body. It helps our colons to function better and also makes our digestive system more efficient. This way our digestive tract will be able to absorb more nutrients and transport them throughout the entire body. People who detoxify using this supplement will notice an improved quality of life due to improved overall health.

Weight Loss Using Diatomaceous Earth

There have currently been a lot of fad diets and “magic pills” that promise to help individuals lose weight within the shortest time possible. Although some of the diets and pills work, they are expensive to maintain. Thankfully, there is no need to spend fortunes on these fads just so as to lower the level of cholesterol in your body, relieve bowl dysfunction and constipation, and lower blood pressure.

Diatomaceous Earth has the ability to do all these things including increasing energy levels within the body and helping one lead a youthful life. It is inexpensive to purchase and costs only a fraction of pharmaceutical products for weight loss.

Why It Works

Our bodies produce natural toxins and we inhale or consume others on a day to day basis. Accumulation of these toxins in the body tends to slow down digestion and promotes the production of cholesterol in the body. The toxins are stored in our fat cells and make it very difficult for us to lose weight. Several studies have also linked the accumulation of toxins to weight gain.

These studies found that toxins decrease our body’s ability to burn fat which is why it is important to detoxify. Weight loss using Diatomaceous Earth is possible thanks to its detoxifying effects. It is a natural food additive which is believed to have absorption capabilities thanks to the diatoms found in it. They soak up all the toxins and wastes in your colon and small intestines.

LDL fats and sticky vegetable matter clinging on the walls of your small intestine interfere with nutrient absorption because they reduce the exposure of capillaries and interfere with peristalsis. Peristalsis is the process through which the muscles of your digestive tract contract and relax.

The millions of grains found in fossil shell flour and their sharp edges gently scrap the walls of the intestines to rid them of the toxins. In the process, they gently massage the intestines and remove residuals of heavy metals as well as other debris. The walls are left pink and clean. The massage helps to stimulate the flow of blood which makes the small intestines work more efficiently.

Apart from detoxifying the body so as to help in nutrient absorption, diatomaceous earth has also been known to stimulate metabolism. A slow metabolism leads to high cholesterol build up in the blood. Poor digestion also leads to a rise in blood sugar levels and an increase in fat. Using DE helps the body to function better by improving digestion.

Other Benefits Of DE

Other benefits of taking fossil shell flour include:

1. Reduced appetite

Those that use the product claim that when it is eaten in the morning, it reduces hunger pangs for the rest of the day.

2. Promotes healthy nails, teeth, gums, hair and skin

DE contains a nail and enamel hardening element known as silica which prevents nails from breaking and teeth from decay and cavities. It also helps to prevent baldness and promotes growth of lustrous hair with a healthy shine. It also improves the condition of our skin by fading age spots and improving its elasticity.

3. Helps in tissue regeneration

Our tissues degenerate rapidly as we age. Components found in diatomaceous earth help to slow down the degenerative process by helping them retain moisture. It also helps to relieve some of the skin problems such as bed sores, insect bites, benign skin sores, frost bites, burns, eczema, warts, calluses, acne, boils, abscesses, rashes and persistent itching.

In summary, weight loss using Diatomaceous earth has been reported by people who have used it over a period of time. The results may not be instant but those that regularly use DE report increased energy levels, and improved overall health.

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Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on December 10, 2017, 11:57:16 AM
Yowbarb Note: The article does names specifically interval training as the best exercise - also that the intense exercise does really benefit the older folk, proportionately more than the younger ones.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/well/move/the-best-exercise-for-aging-muscles.html?mc=aud_dev&mcid=keywee&mccr=domdesk&kwp_0=619287&kwp_4=2201317&kwp_1=919820

The Best Exercise for Aging Muscles
Leer en español
By GRETCHEN REYNOLDS MARCH 23, 2017

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Definition: Interval training is a type of training that involves a series of low- to high-intensity workouts interspersed with rest or relief periods. The high-intensity periods are typically at or close to anaerobic exercise, while the recovery periods involve activity of lower intensity.


Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: ilinda on December 10, 2017, 02:11:55 PM
Yowbarb Note: The article does names specifically interval training as the best exercise - also that the intense exercise does really benefit the older folk, proportionately more than the younger ones.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/well/move/the-best-exercise-for-aging-muscles.html?mc=aud_dev&mcid=keywee&mccr=domdesk&kwp_0=619287&kwp_4=2201317&kwp_1=919820

The Best Exercise for Aging Muscles
Leer en español
By GRETCHEN REYNOLDS MARCH 23, 2017

...
Definition: Interval training is a type of training that involves a series of low- to high-intensity workouts interspersed with rest or relief periods. The high-intensity periods are typically at or close to anaerobic exercise, while the recovery periods involve activity of lower intensity.
The subject line says it all:  Overweght + Out of Shape = Dangerous Scenario (in any year)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on December 12, 2017, 11:03:58 PM
Yowbarb Note: The article does names specifically interval training as the best exercise - also that the intense exercise does really benefit the older folk, proportionately more than the younger ones.
...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/well/move/the-best-exercise-for-aging-muscles.html?mc=aud_dev&mcid=keywee&mccr=domdesk&kwp_0=619287&kwp_4=2201317&kwp_1=919820

The Best Exercise for Aging Muscles
Leer en español
By GRETCHEN REYNOLDS MARCH 23, 2017

...
Definition: Interval training is a type of training that involves a series of low- to high-intensity workouts interspersed with rest or relief periods. The high-intensity periods are typically at or close to anaerobic exercise, while the recovery periods involve activity of lower intensity.
The subject line says it all:  Overweght + Out of Shape = Dangerous Scenario (in any year)
In any year and at any age. :)
Title: Re: Overweight + Out of Shape = Dangerous 2012 Scenario
Post by: Yowbarb on March 10, 2019, 08:29:40 PM
Good idea to include a mini gym, dumbbells,  and some mats in the survival shelter. Some shelves all along the sides might help to keep track of things like that.