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Title: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: BuddhaKitty on November 20, 2011, 08:37:27 PM
hello all, hope you've been well.  a topic i would love to hear suggestions on is this... if one lives in a small apartment complex, has decided to order most bug-out supplies from online due to lack of time to shop around on foot, yet wants to do it in a way where neighbors wouldn't be raising eyebrows or asking questions about constant and large deliveries being left at the door.  what if there's no house available to take deliveries?  even if a few loved ones/friends are spoken to about their willingness to have some items delivered to their residences, is there an easier or more practical way to go about this that i'm not thinking of?  thank you.  :)
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Georgia B on November 20, 2011, 08:55:47 PM
**** Thank you for starting this topic ******

  You are not the only one in this situation..... be interested in the response.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: BuddhaKitty on November 20, 2011, 09:16:39 PM
most definitely georgia, could save a lot of time and work if some kind of answer is right under my nose without realizing it... limited resources at the moment!
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Jimfarmer on November 21, 2011, 07:25:03 AM
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yet wants to do it in a way where neighbors wouldn't be raising eyebrows or asking questions about constant and large deliveries being left at the door

For shipment by UPS or FedEx, you should be able to specify that you will pick up the package at their nearest terminal.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: errrv on November 21, 2011, 09:31:04 AM
Rent a storage building. Have the items shipped there & leave your key with the desk person. They will accept your delivery & lock it up for a small fee. Have your items delivered in an unmarked box.
Erv
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on November 21, 2011, 11:16:38 AM
Rent a storage building. Have the items shipped there & leave your key with the desk person. They will accept your delivery & lock it up for a small fee. Have your items delivered in an unmarked box.
Erv

Good idea!
I didn't see your post and I just posted something similar but not quite the same.
Maybe your idea is better...
 :)
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: gkbucks on November 21, 2011, 02:00:26 PM
I understand 100% where you are coming from on this!  I live in a small apartment complex and had a 55 gallon plastic drum (for water storage) delivered!  I live on the top floor and many people did see it delivered!  I just told them the truth!  I couldn't  say it was a "rain barrel"!  I am trying to feel out who would be on my side and who would not!  It is fairly easy because I live in a 62 years and older building!  Some also know that I have freeze dried food (need water)!
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: BuddhaKitty on November 21, 2011, 09:08:36 PM
i like all of your ideas on this.  jimfarmer, i'll probably go with having the items shipped to the nearest fedex/ups, and i'll save the us postal for smaller, more valuable items to be sporatically mailed home.  i spoke with someone from thereadystore.com today and asked about some of their mre packages, he said the biggest one would probably fit in about 3-4 55-gallon sized barrels (i asked him to compare it to something i could visualize since i couldn't figure it out from the photo online) - and he said it could be shipped to the nearest fedex terminal.  erv, space is an issue too, so it's all about the biggest value available in my area that's secure enough.  but, i'm thinking of bringing everything in myself rather than have it shipped there... just paranoid like that   ;D
the last thing i need to do is choose a 4-wheel drive truck/suv... has to fit a lot of criteria, and under a budget...  would consider a trade-in as well for something that can be driven every day.
gkbucks, i have no idea what i'd tell my neighbors if one of them noticed. what sort of reactions have you gotten from yours?  which reminds me... a couple weeks ago, one of my neighbors told me she wouldn't be here on the eve of 11-11-11.  i asked her where she was going and she was hesitant and said, "uh, just an event..., it's big but," then paused and said "just an event."  and changed the topic.  made me wonder...
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Mark Harbolt on November 21, 2011, 10:21:59 PM
Hello Kitty!
Good to see you are still on topic.  You have been blessed with some very good responses.  Are you planning on taking your "supplies" with you when you roam?  Are you still heading East?

Best wishes,
Mark
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: BuddhaKitty on November 22, 2011, 06:41:06 AM
hello mark!  yes, this is a very knowledgable group. i learn something every time i log on and read.  i bow my head to everyone helping me out with ideas, too - many thanks!
i would like to take as much as i can with me in a vehicle that can seat 8 people and have 4wheel drive.... am i asking for too much  ???  still heading east too, although i have a bunch of detailed maps of california, arizona and utah, i haven't planned a main route or any alternate routes yet.  hope this can all get done before it becomes too late.

Hello Kitty!
Good to see you are still on topic.  You have been blessed with some very good responses.  Are you planning on taking your "supplies" with you when you roam?  Are you still heading East?

Best wishes,
Mark
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: bk on November 23, 2011, 08:38:04 AM
This time of year if you had neighbors that asked you could pass it off as online shopping for Christmas.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on November 23, 2011, 08:42:45 AM
This time of year if you had neighbors that asked you could pass it off as online shopping for Christmas.

Excellent!
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on November 23, 2011, 08:45:39 AM
hello all, hope you've been well.  a topic i would love to hear suggestions on is this... if one lives in a small apartment complex, has decided to order most bug-out supplies from online due to lack of time to shop around on foot, yet wants to do it in a way where neighbors wouldn't be raising eyebrows or asking questions about constant and large deliveries being left at the door.  what if there's no house available to take deliveries?  even if a few loved ones/friends are spoken to about their willingness to have some items delivered to their residences, is there an easier or more practical way to go about this that i'm not thinking of?  thank you.  :)

I do feel the best idea is what Erv had posted. I had part of the idea but his carries it further. 
Supplies to be delivered during business hours right to your storage spot.
Trustworthy people and just small fee, hopefully.
Let us know how it works if U try that.
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Mark Harbolt on November 27, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
The Holiday shopping season may be good cover for your deliveries!
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: BuddhaKitty on November 27, 2011, 05:12:48 PM
yes, the holiday season!  i realized that on black friday  ;D  and i'm trying to get everything before the start of 2012.

perfecto!
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on March 06, 2012, 10:09:17 AM
When I was purchasing my dehydrated food from WalMart last week, the clerk told me it is flying off the shelves, and that many "campers" are purchasing it for their camping trips.  Sounds like a good story to me, and if you don't purchase multiples at once of the same item, it should not alert anyone.  And the cans can even be stored under your bed usually, and no one the wiser.  I also emptied out my linen closet and used it for a pantry.

You can also say you just purchased a ski cabin or summer home on the lake and you are wanting to stock food supplies which will last long term.  Who will be the wiser?
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Plantman40 on April 06, 2012, 08:26:43 AM
I did not know where to post this but found it quite interesting.

CIA Home Invasion: Smart TVs and the ‘Internet of Things’
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/04/06/cia-home-invasion-smart-tvs-and-the-internet-of-things/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+pakalert+%28Pak+Alert+Press%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on April 06, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
Not sure where to post this, but could not resist telling you all about it.  Last night I rented a movie from redbox titled "Take Shelter."  It was not the greatest acting movie, and seemed a bit slow, but I felt the ending justified the means and that the movie has a great message for all of us.  It was about a man who started having nightmares about a coming disastrous storm and he became so worried, he took out a home improvement loan against his house and built a tornado shelter.  Everyone thought he was nuts, and even his wife had a hard time with it.  He began to think he was mental and started seeing a therapist who recommended they take a trip to the beach and relax.  They got there and guess what?  Oh yes, the horrible storm came and there they were away from all his preps and obviously they would have a terrible time surviving, if at all.  The moral of the story is:  Don't second guess yourself, and don't worry about what others think of you, and stay focused, because when you least expect it TSHTF. I was encouraged by the ending, and took heart that even though we sometimes doubt ourselves and wonder if we are crazy to believe in a shift, and even though things are pretty quiet right now, that could change overnight.  Stay vigilant and comfort yourselves that you are aware and prepared.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: enlightenme on April 06, 2012, 07:41:01 PM
Plantman and Endtimesgal, both very interesting posts, thanks!  I think I would like to try to rent that movie you mentioned Endtimesgal, sounds like one I'd like to sneak in on the hubby one night!  I've almost got him convinced to build us a storm shelter or mini underground bunker of some sort, but the key word here is almost!
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on April 07, 2012, 03:34:32 AM
When I was purchasing my dehydrated food from WalMart last week, the clerk told me it is flying off the shelves, and that many "campers" are purchasing it for their camping trips.  Sounds like a good story to me, and if you don't purchase multiples at once of the same item, it should not alert anyone.  And the cans can even be stored under your bed usually, and no one the wiser.  I also emptied out my linen closet and used it for a pantry.

You can also say you just purchased a ski cabin or summer home on the lake and you are wanting to stock food supplies which will last long term.  Who will be the wiser?

Good idea,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: steedy on April 07, 2012, 01:16:27 PM
I'm glad this topic was started.  I've been saying, "Fly under the radar" in my mind to keep me from gaining too much attention.  For instance, when I go to the store, I only get two gallons of water.  It doesn't look suspicious that way.  I also keep my 2 liter bottles to store water in too.  Nobody (neighbors, busy bodies, etc.,) knows that I'm doing that. 

Lindon farms lets you buy a monthly shipment of dehydrated food.  I've thought about that, as long as it's unmarked.

Today, I went to Tractor Supply.  They were having a sale on seeds.  A couple were standing there getting their seeds, and later I got extra seeds (I already had some at home).  Again, it didn't seem suspicious, just seemed like a normal activity.  That's the type of stuff I do.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Dania22 on August 29, 2012, 03:58:29 PM
Not sure where to post this, but could not resist telling you all about it.  Last night I rented a movie from redbox titled "Take Shelter."  It was not the greatest acting movie, and seemed a bit slow, but I felt the ending justified the means and that the movie has a great message for all of us.  It was about a man who started having nightmares about a coming disastrous storm and he became so worried, he took out a home improvement loan against his house and built a tornado shelter.  Everyone thought he was nuts, and even his wife had a hard time with it.  He began to think he was mental and started seeing a therapist who recommended they take a trip to the beach and relax.  They got there and guess what?  Oh yes, the horrible storm came and there they were away from all his preps and obviously they would have a terrible time surviving, if at all.  The moral of the story is:  Don't second guess yourself, and don't worry about what others think of you, and stay focused, because when you least expect it TSHTF. I was encouraged by the ending, and took heart that even though we sometimes doubt ourselves and wonder if we are crazy to believe in a shift, and even though things are pretty quiet right now, that could change overnight.  Stay vigilant and comfort yourselves that you are aware and prepared.



ABSOLUTELY!! I second this notion whole-heartedly! Do what you must, while there's time. Everything that I ordered via the internet and I mean it came in "droves"; was delivered right to my door. I didn't owe anybody an explanation, know what I mean?

PS: watch the movie.....
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on January 11, 2014, 12:01:55 AM
I'm glad this topic was started.  I've been saying, "Fly under the radar" in my mind to keep me from gaining too much attention.  For instance, when I go to the store, I only get two gallons of water.  It doesn't look suspicious that way.  I also keep my 2 liter bottles to store water in too.  Nobody (neighbors, busy bodies, etc.,) knows that I'm doing that. 

Lindon farms lets you buy a monthly shipment of dehydrated food.  I've thought about that, as long as it's unmarked.

Today, I went to Tractor Supply.  They were having a sale on seeds.  A couple were standing there getting their seeds, and later I got extra seeds (I already had some at home).  Again, it didn't seem suspicious, just seemed like a normal activity.  That's the type of stuff I do.

In general, I agree with you and I understand that way of thinking.
I am thinking nowadays many people are so busy with their own lives they don't notice much about stuff being delivered or
what people buy. I go to COSTCO or WalMart or the Dollar Tree and people just have their carts piled high with stuff. Married couples or friends hauling out 2-3 carts. I don't think anyone knows or cares...

On our street I see the US postal service, or FedEx or UPS deliver something about three times per week.

Maybe it's time to amp it up and just get fully stocked...

Also anyone who has a survival location why not go dig a hole and line it with reinforced concrete. Dry it. Top it with a concrete lid with a handle. Fill it with stuff and cover it up and hide it. When no one is watching.
Get it filled up and dig another hole.
Put some in your vehicle ready to haul.
Endtimesgal had the idea of putting a storage thing on top of the vehicle.
Luggage rack would help too. Even a few boxes in the car ready to haul...
Best O' Luck,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: bk on January 11, 2014, 11:01:59 PM
The Cold War, Y2K, 12/21/12

Sooner or later it will happen right now it didn't happen so no one is stocking or paying attention.
How many of us recall that in 2011 Mountain House was out of freeze dried food for months?
Now is the time to stock prices are a little lower again and items are in stock.
I think we are all in agreement that something is going to happen "Flu Pandemic, Financial Collapse, Solar Flares, etc.)
So keep stocking  :)
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: JKB on January 12, 2014, 12:22:33 PM
Not sure where to post this, but could not resist telling you all about it.  Last night I rented a movie from redbox titled "Take Shelter."  It was not the greatest acting movie, and seemed a bit slow, but I felt the ending justified the means and that the movie has a great message for all of us.  It was about a man who started having nightmares about a coming disastrous storm and he became so worried, he took out a home improvement loan against his house and built a tornado shelter.  Everyone thought he was nuts, and even his wife had a hard time with it.  He began to think he was mental and started seeing a therapist who recommended they take a trip to the beach and relax.  They got there and guess what?  Oh yes, the horrible storm came and there they were away from all his preps and obviously they would have a terrible time surviving, if at all.  The moral of the story is:  Don't second guess yourself, and don't worry about what others think of you, and stay focused, because when you least expect it TSHTF. I was encouraged by the ending, and took heart that even though we sometimes doubt ourselves and wonder if we are crazy to believe in a shift, and even though things are pretty quiet right now, that could change overnight.  Stay vigilant and comfort yourselves that you are aware and prepared.



ABSOLUTELY!! I second this notion wholeheartedly! Do what you must, while there's time. Everything that I ordered via the internet and I mean it came in "droves"; was delivered right to my door. I didn't owe anybody an explanation, know what I mean?

PS: watch the movie.....

Dania and all,
 
I agree wholeheartedly although I don't like it one bit.  For example, while I really don't need another pistol, a buddy of mine was selling his .357 magnum recently for next to nothing, so I bought it.  I suppose I could have driven all over town paying cash for ammo, if they even had any (which turns out was a big IF) , but I reluctantly bought my ammo on-line.  Which means I had to use my card, and subsequently there is now a record.. .  Now the Feds, NSA, CIA, whoever wants to know, knows I have a .357 magnum.  I hate buying ammo on-line but nowdays there isn't much choice.  Don't think for a minute that the Feds aren't watching who pays cash at gun shows either...
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on January 13, 2014, 06:36:26 AM
The Cold War, Y2K, 12/21/12

Sooner or later it will happen right now it didn't happen so no one is stocking or paying attention.
How many of us recall that in 2011 Mountain House was out of freeze dried food for months?
Now is the time to stock prices are a little lower again and items are in stock.
I think we are all in agreement that something is going to happen "Flu Pandemic, Financial Collapse, Solar Flares, etc.)
So keep stocking  :)

bk, you make some excellent points.  :)
Something to consider that these companies could run out of stock...
As far as people not stocking up...I'm just not sure. Last time we went to  COSTCO it was a madhouse. You could barely get through the aisles so many people. It was more than Christmas week...
Without reading some statistics I wouldn't know...You could be right. If so a good time to try and grab some large amounts of stuff.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Endtimesgal_2012 on February 09, 2014, 03:08:34 PM
How many of you are stocking up on toilet paper?  I have tried all the brands, and personally I like Walmart's great value brand.  I think they are strong, and seem to last longer on the roll than the others.  If you purchase one ply, you simply have to use more of it.  Also some brands have so much air puffed up in the roll that you have to replace it almost every day.  I also think that this would make a good barter item.

But as a backup, we are also stocking old phone books, lol.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on February 15, 2014, 02:54:23 PM
How many of you are stocking up on toilet paper?  I have tried all the brands, and personally I like Walmart's great value brand.  I think they are strong, and seem to last longer on the roll than the others.  If you purchase one ply, you simply have to use more of it.  Also some brands have so much air puffed up in the roll that you have to replace it almost every day.  I also think that this would make a good barter item.

But as a backup, we are also stocking old phone books, lol.

Endtimesgal, thanks for bringing this up. Oh yes, why not stock up phone books; good idea..
I remember my Grandma Vina and Aunt Grace's little farm, Greeley Colo. They had an outhouse then also an indoor bathroom which you flushed with a bucket of water. They had phone book paper in the outhouse, much of the time.

I have found that Wal Mart and COSTCO both have economical, high quality (less likely to clog up the plumbing) TP supplies.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: ilinda on February 15, 2014, 07:37:48 PM
How many of you are stocking up on toilet paper?  I have tried all the brands, and personally I like Walmart's great value brand.  I think they are strong, and seem to last longer on the roll than the others.  If you purchase one ply, you simply have to use more of it.  Also some brands have so much air puffed up in the roll that you have to replace it almost every day.  I also think that this would make a good barter item.

But as a backup, we are also stocking old phone books, lol.

Another thing to stock up on would be corn husks.  Maybe not from GM corn, but organic corn husks or even corn leaves, but there are so many husks with each ear.  Plus there's no ink. :-D)
But the phone books do have hundreds or thousands of pages.....
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on June 06, 2017, 11:20:20 PM
Good ideas, ilinda!
:) So many people throw out or recycle the phone books why not save them...
corn husks, yes even better.
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on June 06, 2017, 11:22:31 PM
Yowbarb Note: Am re-posting something I posted quite awhile ago, re staying under the radar:
...
I am thinking nowadays many people are so busy with their own lives they don't notice much about stuff being delivered or what people buy. I go to COSTCO or WalMart or the Dollar Tree and people just have their carts piled high with stuff. Married couples or friends hauling out 2-3 carts. I don't think anyone knows or cares...

On our street I see the US postal service, or FedEx or UPS deliver something about three times per week.

Maybe it's time to amp it up and just get fully stocked...

Also anyone who has a survival location why not go dig a hole and line it with reinforced concrete. Dry it. Top it with a concrete lid with a handle. Fill it with stuff and cover it up and hide it. When no one is watching.
Get it filled up and dig another hole.
Put some in your vehicle ready to haul. Whoever drives out to the land hauls a load and properly stores it.
Endtimesgal had the idea of putting a storage thing on top of the vehicle.
Luggage rack would help too. Even a few boxes in the car ready to haul...
Best O' Luck,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: Yowbarb on February 09, 2018, 02:49:37 PM
Awhile ago I had posted a video, the idea was get a storage unit for survival goods. That way, on the way out of town you can just go load it up...
Title: Re: collecting the necessities while staying under the radar...
Post by: ilinda on February 09, 2018, 07:21:14 PM
Awhile ago I had posted a video, the idea was get a storage unit for survival goods. That way, on the way out of town you can just go load it up...
Excellent idea!