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Title: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on April 08, 2010, 10:28:52 AM
This Topic is about foods which could be cultivated indoors, in a shelter, or in the aftertime in a
small kitchen, up on space saving shelves - or in an outdoor shed -with a minimum of effort.
Talking about survival groups cultivating their own mushrooms and sprouts; making their
own yogurt and using a food dryer
to dry slices of fruits and vegetables and even meat and fish.

On the old Forum, a couple of years ago, I put up a lot of posts - not finding many of them -
these posts were indeed about mushroom growing, sprouting, yogurt making, and drying of fruits
vegetables and meat. These foods would be relatively inexpensive.
They not take up much space at all to cultivate.
These foods would add much needed vitamins, minerals, protein and fiber and variety to a diet.
The subject "crops up" here and there so let's try to condense it here.
Post here what you know about cultivating these foods. Ideas, suggestion, links.
- Yowbarb 
PS I forgot to mention, Moderator Linda White posted lots about food dehydrating. In the original topic and it is somewhere here on the Town hall too. Perhaps in her Finding foods Board. She dpes rgis all the time, and is pretty much the expert on it...
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on April 08, 2010, 10:40:00 AM
http://www.geopathfinder.com/9473.html (http://www.geopathfinder.com/9473.html)   This site has a lot of interesting ideas, links, pdfs instructions on building a solar food dryer.
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on April 08, 2010, 10:47:28 AM
Something I posted on the Old Town Hall, in 2008, indoor growing, chia and
also at bottom of page a link to
one site for mushroom growing kits.
- Yowbarb

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Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on April 08, 2010, 10:56:31 AM
 
http://www.answers.com/topic/shiitake-mushroom-1 (http://www.answers.com/topic/shiitake-mushroom-1)   
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on April 08, 2010, 08:22:01 PM
Some reasons to cultivate sh*take mushroom
from Answers.com
Shiitake is an excellent source for amino acids; vegetable proteins; iron; thiamine (vitamin B1); riboflavin (vitamin B2); niacin; and vitamins B6, B12, and D2.
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on April 02, 2012, 11:01:48 AM
A recap on indoor food cultivation:
Seed sprouting
led fruit, veg growing
yogurt cultivation
yeast culture for bread- someone keep it going
fruit and veg drying
jerky drying
mushroom growing
an indoor well - protected little fish pond - trout or whatever will work.

- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: steedy on April 02, 2012, 12:22:22 PM
I've been wondering if you could hydrophonics to grow things inside like tomatoes.
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: BuddhaKitty on April 02, 2012, 01:35:58 PM
This looks like it could be useful.

Food Pantry Hanging Dehydrator / Dryer - Five Tray Non Electric Fruit, Vegetable, Jerky Dehydrationhttp://www.amazon.com/Food-Pantry-Hanging-Dehydrator-Dryer/dp/B001T426TE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1333398808&sr=8-2

It received mixed reviews, the bad reviews came from trays sliding out.  The designer seems to have fixed the problem.  I'll order one next chance I get.
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: errrv on April 02, 2012, 05:28:53 PM
I'm putting in my garden now. Lasagna method, coop planting. If the heat wave hits us again, I've got a spot indoors with a 9'x9' window to make a greenhouse out of. I'll also do hydroponic gardening for a small amount of foods.
Erv
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: enlightenme on April 02, 2012, 06:06:08 PM
I'm putting in my garden now. Lasagna method, coop planting. If the heat wave hits us again, I've got a spot indoors with a 9'x9' window to make a greenhouse out of. I'll also do hydroponic gardening for a small amount of foods.
Erv

How difficult and how costly is it to do hydroponic gardening indoors, say small scale for some basics, like tomatoes, etc.?
What type of foods have you grown with hydroponics?  I've considered doing it, but always figured it would be too costly for start-up costs and electricity.
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: steedy on April 03, 2012, 08:05:06 AM
The way I was planning on doing my hydrophonic plants would be to just stick them in a container and use compost tea as the nutrient stuff.  A real hydrophonic system is costly.  So I thought of this cheap version myself!  I was thinking of trying it on tomatoes too, but at some point, I will have to move them outside so the bees can pollinate them.  I've not been successful doing that myself.
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2012, 04:04:00 PM
This looks like it could be useful.

Food Pantry Hanging Dehydrator / Dryer - Five Tray Non Electric Fruit, Vegetable, Jerky Dehydrationhttp://www.amazon.com/Food-Pantry-Hanging-Dehydrator-Dryer/dp/B001T426TE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1333398808&sr=8-2

It received mixed reviews, the bad reviews came from trays sliding out.  The designer seems to have fixed the problem.  I'll order one next chance I get.
I forgot to mention, Moderator Linda White posted lots about food dehydrating. In the original topic and it is somewhere here on the Town hall too. Perhaps in her Finding foods Board. She is pretty much the expert on it...
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on May 07, 2012, 11:39:06 PM
Sprouting potatoes indoors...
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Potato Sequence


VIDEO LINK:  http://youtu.be/Jbza9hCefQ0

Uploaded by Nicknamelessone on Jun 6, 2007
Time lapse of a potato in a jar. This is only part of the total time lapse, for some reason i cant find the whole file. I believe i was shooting one frame every 15 minutes 24 hours a day for several weeks. Note the water level rising and falling.
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Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on May 08, 2012, 12:04:00 AM
Here is a little info on led food growing, in video form.
We need more in depth and coherent led -growing videos. Please post what you find,
Yowbarb

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LED Greenhouse Lighting  1:19

VIDEO LINK:  http://youtu.be/jy0ar50f1Kk

Uploaded by greenbang on Sep 5, 2008
Rowan Horncastle at Copenmind 2008, speaks to the University of Southern Denmark about their latest research into greenhouse lighting...
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LGM5 Lettuce Greenhouse 7 days in October in Alfred New York

VIDEO LINK:  http://youtu.be/o7tEgtktbHA

Uploaded by LEDvideo on Oct 17, 2008
LED Grow Lights over NFT tables filled with baby lettuce heads. This Greenhouse is in Alfred State College up state New York. ...



Potato Harvest   1:40

VIDEO LINK:  http://youtu.be/59I6eWZYLIQ

Uploaded by KessilTube on Feb 14, 2011
Part of our first experiments with root vegetables, these are our first harvest. These are a miniature variety of a Honey Gold potato.
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Growing a delicious and nutritious indoor garden   3:58

VIDEO LINK:  http://youtu.be/GGv3B5iKW9Q

Uploaded by MaxWell5777 on Jun 24, 2011
Growing a delicious, nutritious garden indoors using grow lights and Ocean Trace sea minerals
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on August 12, 2013, 05:00:59 PM
Here is another yogurt preparation recipe. This is the sort of thing you could do in a survival dome, an underground shelter, a camper, a campground, etc. as long as there is a small heat source...
Having the needed ingredients to make both sprouts and yogurt could save a lot of lives by providing some live food along with the other stored foods...Also when things run out, there could be an ongoing production of yogurt and sprouts...
Can the yogurt be made from packaged milk? I do not know...will look into that.   - Yowbarb

•   The image with the recipe on it is from the Facebook page of Joybilee.
•   The second image shows her page and some questions and comments, educational.
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: enlightenme on August 13, 2013, 05:36:40 AM
Excellent info Barb!  Thanks!!  ;D
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: pbutter72 on August 19, 2013, 07:39:11 PM
Hello All!

I'm not sure if this was not posted before but I shall post it here just in case:
The article is titled "16 Foods That’ll Re-Grow from Kitchen Scraps"
and it lists some foods that I knew of and some I didn't know that could be cultivated from cuttings, they include:

This is a pic of the celery my 12 year old grew :)

(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j254/pbutterpaint/376082_10201090158201695_379022991_n_zpsaf0c5878.jpg)

http://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/15/16-foods-thatll-re-grow-from-kitchen-scraps/ (http://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/15/16-foods-thatll-re-grow-from-kitchen-scraps/)
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on August 19, 2013, 07:59:52 PM
Hello All!

I'm not sure if this was not posted before but I shall post it here just in case:
The article is titled "16 Foods That’ll Re-Grow from Kitchen Scraps"
and it lists some foods that I knew of and some I didn't know that could be cultivated from cuttings, they include:
  • Lemongrass
  • Celery
  • Ginger
  • Bok Choi
  • Romaine Lettuce
  • Cabbage
  • Leeks
  • Scallions
  • Spring Onions
  • Fennel
  • Potatoes
  • Garlic
  • Onions
  • Sweet Potatoes
  • Mushroom
  • Pineapple


http://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/15/16-foods-thatll-re-grow-from-kitchen-scraps/ (http://wakeup-world.com/2012/10/15/16-foods-thatll-re-grow-from-kitchen-scraps/)

Pbutter this is awesome ! I really like this info... The person who posted that photo of the celery grown from short, cut off stalks ahs removed her photo from photobucket.. so I deleted the photobucket msg. :)
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: bk on January 14, 2014, 08:31:09 AM
Barb great article, thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on January 14, 2014, 11:25:20 AM
Barb great article, thanks for the info.

bk,
I am glad you are the Moderator over this Board now.
I like your posts.
:)
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: bk on January 14, 2014, 10:47:20 PM
Barb,
         I wonder if Turmeric could be cultivated this way also since it is in the Ginger family?
Bob
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on January 21, 2014, 04:18:18 PM
Barb,
         I wonder if Turmeric could be cultivated this way also since it is in the Ginger family?
Bob

Good question! Answer is yes. I just learned some new things.  ;)

So ginger is a rhizome  [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhizome ] and yes - so is turmeric!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhizome  "If a rhizome is separated into pieces, each piece may be able to give rise to a new plant."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turmeric   

SEE:  http://modernsurvivalblog.com/survival-garden/3-herbs-to-try-in-your-survival-garden/  3 herbs to try in your survival garden: 3 Herbs To Try in Your Survival Garden
   
March 6, 2012, by Lauren (Mrs. MSB)

garlic ginger and turmeric!

...
Barb Note: Just a few excerpts. Wikipedia on turmeric -

 As of December 2013, turmeric is being evaluated for its potential efficacy against several human diseases in clinical trials, including kidney and cardiovascular diseases, arthritis, several types of cancer and irritable bowel disease.[22]

Specifically, turmeric is also being investigated in relation to Alzheimer's disease,[23] diabetes,[24] and other clinical disorders.[25][26]

However, according to various basic research studies,[27][28][29][30] administration of curcumin or turmeric can suppress several stages of cancer development in multiple tumor models.[28] One study of curcumin on human cancer cells in vitro used hybrid molecules with the anti-nausea drug thalidomide to induce apoptosis in myeloma cancer cells.[31] Some research shows compounds in turmeric to have anti-fungal and antibacterial properties; however, curcumin is not one of them.[32]

Curcumin, the active component of tumeric, has also been shown to be a vitamin D receptor ligand "with implications for colon cancer chemoprevention."  Definition of chemoprevention is below:

Cancer chemoprevention is the use of natural, synthetic (made in a laboratory), or biologic (from a living source) substances to reverse, suppress, or prevent the development of cancer.

http://www.cancer.net/all-about-cancer/risk-factors-and-prevention/chemoprevention

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Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: enlightenme on March 12, 2014, 06:26:37 PM
A recap on indoor food cultivation:
Seed sprouting
led fruit, veg growing
yogurt cultivation
yeast culture for bread- someone keep it going
fruit and veg drying
jerky drying
mushroom growing
an indoor well - protected little fish pond - trout or whatever will work.

- Yowbarb

One thing I haven't yet accomplished learning that I really want to is raising sprouts!  I do remember it was so easy and nutritious! (an old boyfriend from the 70's used to raise and sell them and I helped a bit, but that was a very, very long time ago!).  He used to sell them to the one and only natural health food store in our small town at the time.  Ha, must be wandering down memory lane tonight!
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on March 13, 2014, 11:00:23 AM
A recap on indoor food cultivation:
Seed sprouting
led fruit, veg growing
yogurt cultivation
yeast culture for bread- someone keep it going
fruit and veg drying
jerky drying
mushroom growing
an indoor well - protected little fish pond - trout or whatever will work.

- Yowbarb

One thing I haven't yet accomplished learning that I really want to is raising sprouts!  I do remember it was so easy and nutritious! (an old boyfriend from the 70's used to raise and sell them and I helped a bit, but that was a very, very long time ago!).  He used to sell them to the one and only natural health food store in our small town at the time.  Ha, must be wandering down memory lane tonight!

Hey! I remember that health food store. (Er, you were dating him?) I thought I was the only one.
My bad.
 8)
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: enlightenme on March 13, 2014, 11:58:15 AM
HaHaHa!  OMG  too funny!  Were you the pretty one with the long hair and glasses??   8)   ;D ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: Yowbarb on March 13, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
HaHaHa!  OMG  too funny!  Were you the pretty one with the long hair and glasses??   8)   ;D ;D ;) ;D

Long dark hair. Leotard with blue jeans. Sandals. Vegan skinny. Sunglasses.  8)
Yep that was me! Well he musta liked both of us. Oh well.
Sorry, that silly mood has overtaken me.
 ;)
Title: Re: Indoor food cultivation, a good survival tool
Post by: enlightenme on March 13, 2014, 01:59:26 PM
 ;D  ;D