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Jim Farmer - THE BIG PICTURE => Ascension => Topic started by: JKB on May 15, 2012, 08:45:57 PM

Title: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on May 15, 2012, 08:45:57 PM
I thought I would start this here next to the ascension topic so we can speculate as to what we think is going on.  I know that none of us knows, but it is impossible not to prognosticate.  At any rate, there have been several powerful channeling's posted in the last week and they all are telling us that the time is near, as in weeks and not months.  Something tells me the channeling's are going to fall silent again for the rest of this week and we could see something this weekend.  We have the G8 summit going in Chicago this weekend where, I would venture to guess, they are going to be talking last ditch efforts of the dark cabal.  Would that not also make for a great place and time to start the roundup?  Just a thought.  Also, there is going to be another significant planetary alignment this weekend, the likes of which have been attributed to major earthquakes in the recent past.  The Andromeda Council revealed two weeks or so ago that an earthquake unlike mankind has ever seen is coming shortly.  I'm not trying to freak anyone out I just thought we could talk about things like this here.  I just know I will have my ear close to the ground, so to speak, all weekend.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: enlightenme on May 16, 2012, 08:30:10 AM
"  I just know I will have my ear close to the ground, so to speak, all weekend."


Me too, JKB.  They were also saying just weeks for the cabal roundup (though that might now be extended a bit per Wood and possibly even Drake).  Somehow I get the feeling that the two are really connected...like the cabal needs to brought down first or perhaps even simultaneously?  I'm sure that nothing can really be foreseen, but I guess I'm still really hoping and praying that this will all come about.
I also think that we are coming close to the critical mass of numbers needed for this all to be possible, are you thinking along those lines as well, perhaps?
Also, Drake is speaking on the website www. freedomreigns.us tonight as well, might be some updates on all that cabal and timeframe info then.

Mary
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: inselemel on May 16, 2012, 10:40:43 AM
I will endeavour to have a look at that website Enlightenme, thanks, and JKB yes i totally agree the G8 summit would be a perfect place for a round up. ;D



Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: inselemel on May 23, 2012, 11:00:12 AM
I was wondering where to put this but here is as good as any! I thought i would post today's message from UK astrologer Jonathan Cainer.

"Since the Dark of the Moon, a ribbon of light has reappeared. It will widen slowly to become a banana, then a slice of melon until, by early June, it is a whole bright peach. These images are appropriate. During this particular journey of the Moon, many plans will start to bear fruit. The same conditions that gave rise to a solar eclipse last weekend will remain until early June, allowing a glorious lunar eclipse. When, as now, the world is between two eclipses, even the darkest fears have no option but to bow before the brightest hopes."

Ain't that nice :D

Hope he is right! ;D
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on May 23, 2012, 07:26:21 PM
You and me both.  Thanks for sharing that Mel.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: inselemel on May 26, 2012, 05:54:19 AM
Hope its okay to post this here - it's another quote from the same UK astrologer, Jonathan Cainer. I am posting this as i think astrology is pointing to the next couple of weeks as significant. The Lunar eclipse is a Partial - Will be visible in Europe, East Africa, Asia, Australia, Pacific and the Americas with a duration of 2h 7m on the 4th of June, the Venus Transit is the 5th & 6th of June. I suppose what i am trying to say is that my best guess is that time will be highly significant.

"Mystic tradition tells us that whenever there's one eclipse, shortly followed by another, it is as if a giant, invisible  portal opens over the Earth, allowing clear and easy exchange between realms. Last week brought an annular solar eclipse. Next week, people in some parts of the world are going to witness a powerful lunar eclipse. The Sun and Moon are aligned - not just in two dimensions, but in three. Thus we are between eclipses. Those who wish to try to make the impossible possible should consider themselves blessed!"

Perhaps the impossible being made possible right now before the Lunar eclipse is referring to those Allies behind the scenes who are getting rid of the dark cabal, and the Venus transit which i have posted separately under the 'post it  and let blog sort it out' section perhaps is the culmination of the impossible being made possible - disclosure of the mass arrests and ufo's possibly etc ???

Only nine days to go until the Venus transit - not like i am counting or anything! ;D
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on June 28, 2012, 06:33:22 AM
OK, probably just wishful thinking, but...  Since the US is one of the major bastions of the dark cabal, how cool would it be if they all got arrested on the 4th of July?  Hmmm....  OK, back to reality.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: jrobert69 on June 28, 2012, 06:15:49 PM
There was a major event today, we have a new national health care plan. Sounds good at face value, till you read it and figure out its going to be a mandated payment to the goverment if you dont have insurance. I see that as another tax, a big one. Fortunately for us the people that passed this dont have to use it, because they already have healthcare. I wonder how many of them are invested in big pharma.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Aussie Leo on June 30, 2012, 05:16:24 PM
I thought I would start this here next to the ascension topic so we can speculate as to what we think is going on.  I know that none of us knows, but it is impossible not to prognosticate.

My prognostication....  :)

I am sure we are all spirits living a physical existance, and we as spirits live one life, just in many different bodies through many different physical incarnations in many different "places"...

We all have the freedom of choice, whether we choose to use this freedom is up to the individual.

Earth is a kindergarden for immature souls, this does not mean we are looked apon any less by "others", for they were once like us, and we will be like "them" sometime in the future.

I am not better than the person beside me, nor am I worse, just at different points in space with different perspective of where we are now. We are all headed in same direction toward same destination.

Love WILL conquer all. When we can love one another, like we love our children, our parents, our siblings, our family, the world will know peace and prosperity.

Our spirits came from the same source, therefore we are all brothers, all sisters, all family.

Physical survival of the coming times, to me, is secondary to securing a prosperous future for our children, one where we all come together as one. If I fail to physically survive the coming times, I will come back in another form. I know I have been here before, and I can not see any reason why I won't be back.

We are all growing spiritually whether we believe we are or not, knowledge is growth, loving is growth, action is growth.

Right and wrong is in the perseption. My perseption of doing wrong is taking the freedom of choice from another.

Not sure if this is what JKB meant by prognostication, but just thought I would add my thoughts on the matter...

Love and peace to all
Leo  :)
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on June 30, 2012, 10:18:05 PM
Thank you Aussie Leo for your post and you offer some things to think about.  I agree that we are all spirits and have lived many lives.  I also agree that most of us have been here on one or more occasions and have the freedom of choice to stay, leave, come back, leave...  Eventually, this world is going to elevate and we will either elevate with it or go elsewhere...  No more wishy-wasy trash, you are either in or you're out. 
 
A lot of us are looking for the beginning of that process.  I know it has already started and I see and feel it around me every day.  It is happening right now, as we speak.
 
By prognastication, I meant knowing, or prognastigating at best, when exactly this is going to happen. 
 
I disagree with you that Earth is a kindergarden for immature souls.  We all chose to be here, at this very moment in time.  I am not a spiritual-kindergardener.  Neither are most of the members of this TH.  Whether you know it or not, you signed a soul contract at some point in time and you agreed to be here, for some reason, to do something.  Most people that are walking around now days are soooooo asleep.  Yet, they are here, at this time, for a reason.  They will wake up in due time, when they are supposed to, exactly as scheduled. 
 
You are on the right track my friend in thinking that we are all one...  We all came from the same Source.  We did.  I, and a lot of us welcome you to the TH.  Peace to you...
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Aussie Leo on July 02, 2012, 12:58:28 AM

I disagree with you that Earth is a kindergarden for immature souls.  We all chose to be here, at this very moment in time.  I am not a spiritual-kindergardener.  Neither are most of the members of this TH.

I do appologize, I did not mean to insinuate that you or anyone else are spiritual kindergardeners. I meant that our planet is a school house full of many people that are on that level. There have been many accounts of people in our past, on this planet, that are definately not spiritual kindergardeners... Jesus, Gautama Buddha, and many, many more. I am sure that there are many that are here now that are here to help and assist those that need assistance in their spiritual or any other endeavours that they have chosen to do. I firmly believe that the individuals spiritual growth also includes helping others who may require your assistance, wheather that be large or small, and to be able to teach, you must have more knowledge than your student.

I can not and will not judge anyone other than myself, as I firmly believe that each individuals decisions on their own development (or lack of development) is extremely personal and is only privy to themselves and their higher self.

From what I get during meditations, part of what is happening now is to help us all grow as a community of humans (not sure how that will happen, but I can only trust in what my higher self tells me). Or to put it another way, assension of the Planet Earth and its Earthling inhabitants.

Love and Peace
Leo  :)




Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: inselemel on July 02, 2012, 02:22:21 AM
I am sure i mentioned on the board somewhere, that i read a book about Alien contact and the author describes Earth like a Zoo as we are very messy and belligerent and that is why we are not allowed to be part of the Galactic community, our leaders are too aggressive etc but that will change after Ascension and those left on the new improved Planet Earth will number 10-25% of the population that was here before.  8)
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on July 03, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
No worries.  I didn't mean to come across sideways.  This place is a school house and we are all learning.  I just wish it wasn't such a mystery.  I know I have been here before and I know I chose to be here now.  How helpful it would be if I could recall why I chose to be here now or what, specifically, I came here to do.  I guess that would be too easy...  Peace friend.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Ed Douglas on July 05, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
Kyle, perhaps it is the same reason you chose to be a warrior.   ed
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on July 05, 2012, 12:34:38 PM
I think that is part of it Ed.  For the longest time I have felt like I was doing something good for society by being a part of this gun club but even that is changing.  When you take a step back and look at what we have done over the last 15 years, I'm not so sure I'm proud of it anymore.  I'm under contract through 2014 and would only have to re-enlist one more time to retire at 20, but I am seriously thinking about exploring other options.  That is, if we are still here in 3D by 2014.  I just got offered a job with the border patrol the other day and I have to admit, it sounded pretty good.   I am fortunate that I have a lot of options to choose from post-military.  I will always be grateful to the Corps for what it has done for me but I just don't know if I really want to do this anymore.  I never thought I would hear myself say that...  Peace my brother.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: enlightenme on July 12, 2012, 12:46:13 AM
What an amazingly hard decision to be faced with, JKB.  I'm sure if you listen to your intuition, it will guide you to the right choice for yourself and your family.  Good luck with whichever you decide my friend.

Mary
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Aussie Leo on July 15, 2012, 01:11:17 AM
I have spent the last few days deeply thinking about everything I have learnt about, regarding Planet X and 2012. Things I have learnt in the last 40 years of this life.
My thoughts and feelings have evolved, especially in last few years, changed as I learnt new things, and saw current events happen before my eyes...
At present my best guess is...
Planet X comes round every 3600 odd years, why hasn't the planet "assended" prior to now in one of these passings?
Our Solar System goes across the Galactic Equator about every 20,000,000 years, this will be the first time Humans have been on this planet when this occurs. No one knows whether there is anything substancial that will happen when this occurs on 21/12/2012...

But if, what Mythi, the alien from Andromeda says is correct, that is when the Earth will assend to the next Level of existance. Planet X is not the cause, but is mearly a contributor to what is going to happen with regard to ascension...
This makes sence to me and resonates with what I feel... If he is to believed, he would have "seen it" occur on other planets in the universe going through exactly the same as us.

The survivors of The Planet X passing, will give birth to a new level of children who become adults and forge a new existance on this planet, one, I hope, is based on Love for our fellow humans, love for ourselves and love for the planet...

As our physical bodies die, we reincarnate to where we are able to go, If We are "advanced" enough we come back here, if not we go elsewhere... If we are too advanced for here we go to a world that is best suited for our level of attainment.

Disclosure of aliens is not a huge issue, deep down, logic suggests that this is a huge universe, why so much space for one colonized planet?? If aliens were so bad and wanted to invade, they would have done it years ago, before we even invented guns. I believe the majority of Aliens are good souls and only want the best for us, and that includes NOT frightening the masses with their existance...

I have read a lot about spirituality, including many religious texts and feel the one phrase that sums up what "we are here for" is this...
Man was created physically to develop spiritually... I first heard this saying 20 years ago, I am still learning what it really means... And it still resonates strongly within me.

Love to all, Peace and stay safe

Leo  :)
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: inselemel on July 15, 2012, 02:36:30 AM
In my crystal skull e-books which resonated with me, also state that those who are of a higher frequency can go back to their respective planets if they want, the recent channellings also state that if one so chooses, one can join the Galactic Federation of Light as well. There will be a lot of options once ascension has taken place.

I don't know how any intelligent human can still stick with the viewpoint we are the only planet with 'life' on it - it is just so ludicrous and arrogant, to think we are alone in the giant cosmos.

Yep, it is all a big learning experience, and seemingly living in duality, with its wars, crime & cruelty speeds the learning process up.

There was something i thought last night about putting in this subject heading and have forgotten it. ooops Hopefully it will come back to me.


Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: bittersweetorchards on July 15, 2012, 05:30:54 PM
I don't know whats what but believe what one strongly believes will turn into your reality ... In other words, there are definitely differing realities developing always (not what I expected) is a concept I no longer have a problem with ... I do think there are multiple species/civilizations that are much less than benevolent as regards homo sapiens or Earth ... I do think the Dark Cabal control is running smoothly enough ... I believe strongly the current PX Flyby & resulting Cusp to be Crossed will NOT be a walk in the park but is more than worth surviving thru to continue being part of the Earth Ascension process ... I will continue mental, physical, & emotional prepping AsLongAsPossible or preferably Eternally ... Sorta like Expect the Unexpected Always
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 15, 2012, 07:18:35 PM
Good remarks, Aussie Leo.  We are on the same page.  I'll throw in a few comments.

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Planet X comes round every 3600 odd years, why hasn't the planet "assended" prior to now in one of these passings?
My guess is that conditions on Earth had not attained the appropriate state yet.  Perhaps the "Dark Cabal" had not yet ran the Earth and humanity down far enough to attract corrective action by spirits and/or ETs.  But, I suspect that only those entities that are controlling ascension now could answer that question.

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Our Solar System goes across the Galactic Equator about every 20,000,000 years, this will be the first time Humans have been on this planet when this occurs.

At least two sources that I have seen say that the Solar system is at least 20 light-years away from the equatorial plane of the galaxy, and perhaps as many as 35 light-years away.  If that is true, or thereabouts, then we will not intersect that plane any time soon.  See http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=1758.msg22305#msg22305 (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=1758.msg22305#msg22305)  or  http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2820.msg37792#msg37792 (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2820.msg37792#msg37792) for example.

Can ;you provide a reference for the figure of 20,000,000 years?  I have seen a value of 32,000,000 years -- that being half of the cycle length of 65,000,000 years.

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If aliens were so bad and wanted to invade, they would have done it years ago, before we even invented guns.
We don't know what variables determine the agendas and timetables of the many ET groups.  According to some sources, the Annunaki arrived about 400,000 years ago.  Now suppose that they arrived on February 5, 401230 BC.  The same statement, that ETs are not coming because they could have come already but didn't, could have been made on the day before, February 4.  And in fact,  they did take over Earth, and they bioengineered humans to be their dumb, obedient slaves.  (According to some sources, of course.  I will try to find specific links if you want references, but google searches should turn up many.  One good source is http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net))
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on July 19, 2012, 09:01:06 PM
Jim,
 
You always cast a facinating physics light on things...  I love it.
 
Thanks Mary, we are all going to have a lot of major decisions to make in the next six months, I suspect...  Never a dull moment, even when it is dull...
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on July 19, 2012, 09:05:41 PM
Oh, yeah, probably just a pipe dream, but, with all of the prognostication that the London Olympics will be another huge false flag event by TPTB, wouldn't that be another awesome opportunity for our friends to make their presence known to the masses?  Most likely just wishful thinking on my part... 
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Aussie Leo on July 25, 2012, 03:29:05 AM
Good remarks, Aussie Leo.  We are on the same page.  I'll throw in a few comments.

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Planet X comes round every 3600 odd years, why hasn't the planet "assended" prior to now in one of these passings?
My guess is that conditions on Earth had not attained the appropriate state yet.  Perhaps the "Dark Cabal" had not yet ran the Earth and humanity down far enough to attract corrective action by spirits and/or ETs.  But, I suspect that only those entities that are controlling ascension now could answer that question.

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Our Solar System goes across the Galactic Equator about every 20,000,000 years, this will be the first time Humans have been on this planet when this occurs.

At least two sources that I have seen say that the Solar system is at least 20 light-years away from the equatorial plane of the galaxy, and perhaps as many as 35 light-years away.  If that is true, or thereabouts, then we will not intersect that plane any time soon.  See http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=1758.msg22305#msg22305 (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=1758.msg22305#msg22305)  or  http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2820.msg37792#msg37792 (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=2820.msg37792#msg37792) for example.

Can ;you provide a reference for the figure of 20,000,000 years?  I have seen a value of 32,000,000 years -- that being half of the cycle length of 65,000,000 years.

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If aliens were so bad and wanted to invade, they would have done it years ago, before we even invented guns.
We don't know what variables determine the agendas and timetables of the many ET groups.  According to some sources, the Annunaki arrived about 400,000 years ago.  Now suppose that they arrived on February 5, 401230 BC.  The same statement, that ETs are not coming because they could have come already but didn't, could have been made on the day before, February 4.  And in fact,  they did take over Earth, and they bioengineered humans to be their dumb, obedient slaves.  (According to some sources, of course.  I will try to find specific links if you want references, but google searches should turn up many.  One good source is http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net))

Sorry mate, just saw your reply to my post...

Just a few thoughts of mine about your replies...

I still think Planet X and Assension are two completely different things that just happen to be "apparently" just around the corner... In my head I understand it, but I will try to explain how I see it...

 Planet Earth and its inhabitants are united together as a group of individuals united together to form ONE CIVILISATION. The Earth and its inhabitants Assend when the AVERAGE of the human race who lives on this planet  are at "the next level". Thus, if there are enough "enlightened ones" here they can "raise" the level of the remaining billions of people.

If I use a method developed by Dr David R Hawkins in his book "Power vs Force"' it kinda works like this...
1 person at level of enlightenment = 1000 (1x10 to power of 1000)
1 person at level of courage = 200 (1x10 to power of 200)

Therefore it would take 1x10 to power of 800 people at level of courage to equal 1 at enlightenment.

Now, if everyone on this planet was given a "level number" depending on where they are in their evolutionary growth, then all people alive at this time were averaged, our "society and/or planetary" number can be worked out.

I'm sorry if sounds confusing and not very clear, but it is clear in my head, just hard to put into words... If you read the previously mentioned book, it might be a little better to understand...

Now, if Planet X's passing causes mass destruction, and loss of life, as has been predicted... The remaining population that survives, may bring this "average" up, or down or remain relatively constant... Only time can tell. If the average goes up... Bingo!! We can assend as a Planet and Species...

Well, as I said, this is how it is in my head. I maybe completely off base here, but something keeps telling me, this is the easiest way for me to understand how it really is...

References to the 20million years... That was sort of an average, as I too have heard a few different numbers fly around from 5 million to 50 million years. Still not 100% sure what, if anything, will happen when we do cross the galactic equator, again, a variety of sources state it is 21/12/2012, others state we are way off, just like Mr Farmer states. Again, I take a wait and see approach.

As for the Annunaki, well, I feel the origins of human life on this Planet come from many different sourses. "Thiaoouba Prophecy" states each race came from different Planets. In fact the only two races of humans they didn't state from where they came from are the White and Red race (European and American Indian). I have seen a film clip of an Indian Elder stating they came from Mars (which could fit with the book, TP) and the White race could come from the Annunaki's hybrid program.

Either way, where we came from really means naught, it is where we are now and how we deal with it that really matters...

I hope my gobeldegoop is a little understandable :)

Love and Peace
Leo
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: JKB on July 25, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
Interesting discussion and good points Leo.  The Galactic Channeling's infer that the major effects of PX in the solar system are being minimized and that PX and it's satelites will "ease" into the solar system as a part of the ascension process.  They do state that not all of the physical effects will be held back and that there will be some destruction.  I still think it is wise for all members that are near any coastline, myself included, be prepared to bugout at a moment's notice and don't stop until you are several hundred miles inland.  I also have a feeling that the New Madrid is still going to rip at some point.
 
On another note, the Channeling's have fallen silent again and there is a note at the top of the page stating that several of the interpreters are on vacation.  Prior to the silence though, it was stated that we need to be prepared for a major event surrounding the Olympics, which kick off on Friday.  The message was to stay calm and not be afraid no matter what happens or is reported via the MSM.  With that in mind, let's keep our heads up and see what, if anything, transpires.  Peace.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 25, 2012, 09:32:43 AM
Hi Aussie Leo,

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I use a method developed by Dr David R Hawkins in his book "Power vs Force"' it kinda works like this...

I have that book, and I recommend it highly.  Dr. Wayne Dyer wrote this about it:  "Perhaps the most important and significant book I've read in the last ten years."  The book does not refer to ascension, as I remember.

I use a dowsing tool to calibrate persons or things occasionally on the scale of 1 to 1000.  The results can be quite informative.

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"Thiaoouba Prophecy" states each race came from different Planets.

Also read and recommended.  http://www.thiaoouba.com/mic.htm (http://www.thiaoouba.com/mic.htm)
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Aussie Leo on July 25, 2012, 11:12:26 PM
Hi Aussie Leo,

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I use a method developed by Dr David R Hawkins in his book "Power vs Force"' it kinda works like this...

I have that book, and I recommend it highly.  Dr. Wayne Dyer wrote this about it:  "Perhaps the most important and significant book I've read in the last ten years."  The book does not refer to ascension, as I remember.

That is correct, it does not refer to Ascension as per say, but the list he gives from Shame to Enlightenment, for the individual, it gives one the impression that ascension occurs everytime we "Head North" on the scale. If I was at level of SHAME, but got myself to the level of GUILT, that in some sence of the word is individual ascension. Small ascension it may be, but ascension none the less. Each time we "grow spiritually" we are heading for the top of the mountain (enlightenment).

This book, along with Thiaoouba Prophecy, would have to be the two most important books in my collection, with regards spiritual understanding. They got me closer to understanding the answer to the ultimate question "why are we here?".

Leo :)
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Aussie Leo on July 27, 2012, 02:23:58 AM

I use a dowsing tool to calibrate persons or things occasionally on the scale of 1 to 1000.  The results can be quite informative.



may I ask? What is a dowsing tool? Where can I get/make one?

Leo
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 27, 2012, 07:54:21 AM
I use a dowsing tool to calibrate persons or things occasionally on the scale of 1 to 1000.  The results can be quite informative.

may I ask? What is a dowsing tool? Where can I get/make one?

There are several kinds.  Pendulum, bent rods that swivel, flexing single wire, a forked twig, and a person's muscles are the ones that I have read about or seen in action.  See http://www.dowsers.org (http://www.dowsers.org).  I use the flexing wire.  See http://www.bio-tensor.com (http://www.bio-tensor.com).

Here is a curious version of using a (live) human body as a dowsing tool of sorts that an acquaintance uses.  He instructs the client to sit on a chair and put his/her legs up on the seat of another chair that is directly in front of the client.  My friend then pulls the two legs slightly and adjusts the heals to be aligned.  Then he mentally asks the client's subconscious mind a question, and if the answer is No, then one of the client's legs shortens quite noticeably.  I saw this in action just a few days ago, and one of the client's legs shortened by about two inches.  The questions being asked were about the health of the client's internal organs (one by one).  That was not a solicitation for services, nor did it involve any exchange of money; it was real.

That is the way that all dowsing operations work.  The subconscious mind of the person controlling the tool reacts physically to a thought.  The reaction can be a twitch, a movement, a weakening or strengthening, or an internal adjustment of some sort.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Aussie Leo on October 29, 2012, 01:50:23 PM
Just had a "moment" and thought I would throw it out there for others to comment...
If out planet Earth "ascends" to the next level this coming December... And following Universal Law, that Michel talks about in the previously mentioned book, that lower level souls can not live anymore than 10 days on a higher level planet... Can it be a possibility that anyone who is not as yet reached the level that Earth will "ascend" to, their souls, through natural law, will leave their current body and reincarnate on a planet that suits their level, in the same time frame??

Leo
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: enlightenme on October 29, 2012, 02:34:58 PM
Just had a "moment" and thought I would throw it out there for others to comment...
If out planet Earth "ascends" to the next level this coming December... And following Universal Law, that Michel talks about in the previously mentioned book, that lower level souls can not live anymore than 10 days on a higher level planet... Can it be a possibility that anyone who is not as yet reached the level that Earth will "ascend" to, their souls, through natural law, will leave their current body and reincarnate on a planet that suits their level, in the same time frame??

Leo

Leo, I know I had read somewhere that that is exactly what would happen, in the opinion of that author.  I can't remember for the life of me where I had seen it in print, but if I come across it, I will post it.  And of course, that was just that persons interpretation/opinion.  I might be inclined to believe that possibility myself.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Jimfarmer on October 29, 2012, 06:37:52 PM
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Can it be a possibility that anyone who is not as yet reached the level that Earth will "ascend" to, their souls, through natural law, will leave their current body and reincarnate on a planet that suits their level, in the same time frame??

Channeled sources have said that many times, except that I don't remember the "same time frame" bit..
See http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/index.html (http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/index.html)
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: Aussie Leo on October 30, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
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Can it be a possibility that anyone who is not as yet reached the level that Earth will "ascend" to, their souls, through natural law, will leave their current body and reincarnate on a planet that suits their level, in the same time frame??

Channeled sources have said that many times, except that I don't remember the "same time frame" bit..
See http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/index.html (http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/index.html)

Same time frame bit came from my thoughts on the matter. Combination of thoughts I had after re-reading both Thiaoouba Prophecy and Power v's Force.
Title: Re: Best Guess
Post by: enlightenme on October 30, 2012, 03:06:38 PM
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Can it be a possibility that anyone who is not as yet reached the level that Earth will "ascend" to, their souls, through natural law, will leave their current body and reincarnate on a planet that suits their level, in the same time frame??

Channeled sources have said that many times, except that I don't remember the "same time frame" bit..
See http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/index.html (http://www.galacticchannelings.com/english/index.html)

Thanks Jim...I knew I had read it somewhere, just couldn't remember where!