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ilinda, Jimfarmer - THE PLANET X SYSTEM => Planet X Cover-ups, Disinformation and Foreshadowing => Topic started by: ilinda on January 19, 2015, 03:47:40 PM

Title: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on January 19, 2015, 03:47:40 PM
I posted this elsewhere a few days ago, but felt maybe it needed to be in a topic of its own.

Anyway, here goes:
http://www.inquisitr.com/1765098/ufo-nasa-video-stream/
NASA LIVE FEED FROM INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION SUDDENLY GOES DEAD AS UFO APPEARS on HORIZON

A UFO was caught on the NASA video feed streamed live from the International Space Station on January 15 — but as soon as the mysterious grey object was seen rising over Earth’s horizon, the NASA live video stream suddenly cut to black.
Coincidence? UFO researchers think not.
The video was taken from a high definition camera mounted outside the space station, as part of a NASA experiment in generating HD images from space, which would be the clearest video images of our home planet ever produced.
But every so often, the HD cameras capture something else as well — something which causes NASA to become extremely tight-lipped when asked by the taxpayers who fund the agency for answers as to what they are seeing in the baffling video images.
As seen in the video above, as posted by the YouTube UFO archivist Streetcap1, the clear shot of a distant but distinct object which appears to come into view at about the same level as the space station’s 275-mile high orbit, is quickly replaced by a message informing viewers that the NASA High Definition Earth Viewing Experiment is experiencing some sort of technical difficulties.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1765098/ufo-nasa-video-stream/#BGQJ2DISj6aTgTpF.99

Granted, even with today’s highly sophisticated technology, streaming live video from space is not a perfect endeavor, with glitches and outages not unexpected. But UFO watchers say that this one is not the first instance of NASA suddenly dumping a video feed moments after a UFO appears on screen.
In fact, earlier this week, a blogger claimed to have spotted a giant UFO on the NASA feed shortly before the video dropped. But that sighting, with its oversize, animated UFO looked too good to be true.
The Streepcap1 sighting appears more realistic. Watch the video above as a grey object appears to emerge from behind the Earth, then rises as if to meet the Space Station — only to have the video feed quickly cut off.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1765098/ufo-nasa-video-stream/#BGQJ2DISj6aTgTpF.99

While some skeptics commented that the object may simply be Earth’s moon — hardly a mysterious UFO — the UFO archivist ruled out that possibility.
“Please bear in mind that the moon appears white when it shows,” Streetcap1 wrote. “There would be no point in me uploading a video of the moon.”
Scott Waring, editor of the popular UFO Sightings Daily blog said that NASA has a bad habit of censoring unexpected UFO sightings on its own video feed.
“NASA did it again. A UFO shows up on live public Internet cam and NASA takes it off line,” Waring wrote on Sunday. “Who here is surprised by this? If you are, you are new here. UFOs are caught by researchers on a weekly basis and NASA does cut the line when they catch them. However the eggheads at NASA are not always focused on the screen and miss a lot of very interesting and sometimes very highly detailed UFOs.”
Several commenters on the video said that they emailed NASA asking for an explanation of the UFO sighting and why the live video was suddenly cut off, but no one at the space agency granted them the courtesy of a reply.

Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1765098/ufo-nasa-video-stream/#BGQJ2DISj6aTgTpF.99
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Jimfarmer on January 19, 2015, 06:02:32 PM
From "Trove of 130K Air Force UFO Documents Available Online" at http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2015/01/trove-of-130k-air-force-ufo-documents-available-online/ (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2015/01/trove-of-130k-air-force-ufo-documents-available-online/)

[start extracts]
The US Air Force’s nearly 130,000 pages of UFO records have hit the Internet.

There are countless bizarre sightings, hundreds with no explanation, and they are now easy to find online thanks to UFO enthusiast John Greenewald, who posted the entire collection for the first time last week on his site The Black Vault.

“There’s absolutely something out there,” he told ABC News.
...
“When I look at the documentation, I’m a believer, based on that,” he said. “I believe the documentation proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a coverup going on.”
[end extracts]

The most important aspect of this item is that it was shown on ABC evening news on 19/Jan/15. -- Jim
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: GenericUser on January 19, 2015, 07:34:06 PM
Got to get to bed but had to say Linda that this topic is what I was pointing to with this:

Source: Netflix movies
Title:  Aliens On The Moon: The Truth Exposed
Date: 2014 (late)
Length: 1 hr 22 minutes
Category: International
Rating: 4 stars out of 5, average all viewers

Includes Buzz Aldrin, etc. Also includes Mars missions, Russian probes one sending picture of 'something' prior to probe destruction, etc.

Talk about credible accounts, pictures, ULOs, etc. this is worth another viewing, which I will do as soon as time permits.

GenericUser
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on January 20, 2015, 06:52:44 PM
Peter, I did sign up for Netflix, based on your input of the video "Aliens On The Moon:  The Truth Exposed"

Like you, after watching it the first time and letting it all swirl around in my brain, it is now time to view it again.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on January 26, 2015, 05:45:28 PM
OK, I just finished a two-part documentary that I feel was dynamite.  It is one of the most comprehensive on the subject I've viewed so far.  The subject?  The entire UFO, alien, extra-terrestrial phenomenon, going back decades and longer than that.

What I found empowering about this is the extent of time and effort devoted to the SECRECY and COVERUP of basically every single instance of craft retriveal, sightings, contact, etc.  It was really good to see so many credible witnesses agreeing (in part 2) that the truth needs to be revealed, and the sooner the better.

Plus, I found the part about the "false flag" operation(s) that were years ago, projected for the future (now and onward) especially interesting, because we are seeing history playing out what was projected.

If you have time, brothers and sisters, these two Youtube videos are worth your time:

Sirius Documentary Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYIk2kfiL0Q


Sirius Documentary Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oDueuZlI2Q
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: GenericUser on March 04, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
OK, I just finished a two-part documentary that I feel was dynamite.  It is one of the most comprehensive on the subject I've viewed so far.  The subject?  The entire UFO, alien, extra-terrestrial phenomenon, going back decades and longer than that.

What I found empowering about this is the extent of time and effort devoted to the SECRECY and COVERUP of basically every single instance of craft retriveal, sightings, contact, etc.  It was really good to see so many credible witnesses agreeing (in part 2) that the truth needs to be revealed, and the sooner the better.

Plus, I found the part about the "false flag" operation(s) that were years ago, projected for the future (now and onward) especially interesting, because we are seeing history playing out what was projected.

If you have time, brothers and sisters, these two Youtube videos are worth your time:

Sirius Documentary Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYIk2kfiL0Q


Sirius Documentary Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oDueuZlI2Q

Thank you for pointing these out. I will check them as soon as I can!

Also, glad you got the Netflix. I did not enjoy but thought the quality of the production was excellent, 'The United States of Secrets' I believe it was called. It was one of several PBS documentaries in their "Frontline: " series. If time permits, you can check them out; they are not like the TV types, much-much better. Regarding that particular two part series, there used to be the saying 'you can run but you can not hide' well now you can not hide - period. Also ties in to Marshall's latest headline recommending the free viewing of "Bought" which ends in less than 24 hours!
https://www.boughtmovie.net/free-viewing/thank-you.php?AFFID=NONE (https://www.boughtmovie.net/free-viewing/thank-you.php?AFFID=NONE)
and I just finished watching. Great movie!
Peter
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on March 09, 2015, 08:30:08 AM
I don't know if I'm really grasping at straws with the issue of foreshadowing but at least I'll post these screenshots from a video and let readers decide for themselves.

A week or so ago GenericUser recommended I watch Particle Fever, which I did yesterday.  Aside from my opinions about how physicists are just "using a bigger and bigger hammer" each time they try to blast to smithereens those particles they move through their "Supercolliders", and in the process, possibly coming closer and closer to something unintended and unforeseen, I did manage to view the entire movie.

While watching, I noticed a sky scene (immediately after the rowing scene near the end) in which it appeared to me that there was the sun in the sky, and slightly to the left is another "sky object".  I went back this AM and caught a couple of screenshots, for those who don't have Netflix.

Here they are:

(Screen shots re-sized, Barb T.)
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on March 10, 2015, 05:32:15 AM
One more thing about the above, two screenshots from the movie Particle Fever is the subliminal message about our skies.

Note all the chemtrails in the sky.  They are there, I believe, to get viewers accustomed to seeing a sky filled with "lines" all across it, and as time continues, the very youngest will never have seen normal skies anyway, so these chemtrailed skies will look perfectly "normal" to them.  Eventually chemtrailed skies may begin to appear normal to those who did not grow up seeing them.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on March 11, 2015, 05:04:04 PM
Foreshadowing?

This, today, from Yahoo News but you'll have to follow the link to see the beautiful pictures:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/discovery-one-saturns-moons-just-182029759.html



A discovery on one of Saturn's moons just changed how we think about alien life


By Jessica Orwig 5 hours ago
.

(Cassini Imaging Team, SSI, JPL, ESA, NASA) The possibility of alien life thriving somewhere other than Earth is now stronger than ever before.

Underwater hydrothermal vents — the same kind that may have spawned life on our planet — seem to be lining the ocean floors of Saturn's tiny, water-rich moon called Enceladus, according to two recently published papers.
This is the most compelling evidence we have so far for the existence of these vents anywhere other than Earth. The latest discovery is a tantalizing hint that the conditions right for life may be present outside of Earth.
While Enceladus is watery, it is no Earth: It is only about 300 miles across. But underneath a thick, icy, shell, lies a water ocean habitat that resembles the conditions on an adolescent Earth, between 3.5 and 4 billion years ago.
Back then, Earth was covered in a single, global ocean. Most of the ocean is thought to have been extremely acidic — to0 acidic to create life — except around certain underwater, hydrothermal vents where pockets of warm, less-acidic water could have formed. These conditions would have been the ideal place for life to arise on Earth, according to NASA scientist Michael Russel.
With this latest announcement, hydrothermal vents with these pockets of warm water are now believed to exist outside of Earth — at the bottom of Enceladus's oceans.
So how did these researchers find vents under miles of ice? Using the instruments on board the Cassini spacecraft, the team measured the size and number of silicon-rich particles, called silicates, in Saturn's second outer-most ring, the E ring. The E ring is made of particles that came from the moon's plumes and therefore tells scientists something about what is going on underneath the surface.
Once formed, these particles rise to the surface where they escape to space through plumes off the moon's south polar region, shown in the arresting image below taken by Cassini:

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(Cassini Imaging Team, SSI, JPL, ESA, NASA) The silicates' chemical makeup, size, and abundance gives an indication of what is forming in the ocean underneath Enceladus's surface. And the result is incredibly exciting.

To show that these particles could come from hydrothermal vents, the team re-created them in the lab. To their surprise, they discovered that particles of this chemical composition, size, and abundance only grow under a very specific set of conditions. The team reported their findings Wednesday in the journal Nature.
What's more shocking is that these conditions are remarkably similar to a unique, underwater environment here on Earth, called the Lost City, which some researchers consider the cradle of life.
A miraculous find

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(NOAA Photo Library on Flickr) Lost City Expedition 2005. One of four pinnacles that form the summit of the 200-foot tall carbonate chimney called Poseidon in the Lost City hydrothermal field. The Lost City is a field of hydrothermal vents that was first discovered in the mid-Atlantic ocean in the year 2000. Unlike other hydrothermal vents on Earth, this unique environment has basic, non-acidic, waters that clock in at comfortable temperatures between 100 and 200 degrees Fahrenheit. Other vents can reach up to a scorching 860 degrees Fahrenheit.

Moreover, the life that thrives in the Lost City is mostly simple microorganisms — nothing like the larger, more complex life forms hanging around other vents on Earth's ocean floor. Some scientists think that these super-simple life forms could be close-descendants of the first single-celled life on Earth.
The team's latest discovery makes Enceladus one of the most likely places in the solar system where alien life could exist, Linda Spilker, a project scientist with Cassini at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory who was not involved with the study, told Business Insider.
"You have energy, nutrients, and liquid water which create a potential habit that could support life," Spilker said.
In another recent paper published online in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, a different team of researchers reports additional evidence supporting the presence of hydrothermal vents. The researchers used Cassini to measure the amount of methane inside of the plumes of Enceladus as Cassini flew threw them, and found more methane than what was expected.
Methane is one of the main products that the Lost City's hydrothermal vents generate. This excess methane is likely coming from hydrothermal vents, Spilker said.
"The methane story helps verify what we found with the tiny sillica particles," Spilker said.
These vents may be powered by tidal energy generated by Saturn's powerful gravitational tug on the tiny moon.
A recipe for success

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(NASA/JPL-Caltech/Space Science Institute) Enceladus floating in space beneath Saturn's rings with a larger moon, Titan, in the background. Scientists first discovered that Enceladus was spewing jets of water vapor and ice back in 2005. This discovery rocked the scientific community because it indicated that Enceladus hosted liquid water underneath its surface. That was the first time astrobiologists began looking at Enceladus as a possible place to harbor alien life.

Then, in 2009, scientists discovered that not only was there an ocean, but it was salty, like the oceans on Earth.
And now there's compelling evidence that deep beneath the moon's icy surface, these salty oceans contain active hydrothermal vents like the vents of the Lost City.
About the only difference between Earth's oceans and those on Enceladus is evidence of life.
Although Spilker said that the most likely source for both team's measurements is hydrothermal vents, the authors of the Nature paper caution that farther investigations are needed to ultimately confirm the presence of active vents on Enceladus. It's not like we can see them under all that ice and ocean.
The fact that we now have two very different measurements pointing to the same hydrothermal source, however, is encouraging.
The ultimate question
Cassini has made game-changing discoveries of Enceladus since it first began flying by the tiny moon in 2005, but it is not equipped with the right instruments to answer the ultimate question: Is there life on Enceladus?
And right now, NASA has no official plans to dispatch another spacecraft to Saturn any time soon, Spilker told Business Insider. Moreover, it takes at least three years to reach Saturn, so it's going to be a while before we gain a better idea of what might be lurking beneath Enceladus's surface.
Cassini is scheduled to make its last three visits to Enceladus this year: two in October and the final flyby on December 19.
NOW WATCH: Scientists Have A Pretty Good Idea What Aliens May Actually Look Like
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: GenericUser on April 20, 2015, 12:13:31 PM
One more thing about the above, two screenshots from the movie Particle Fever is the subliminal message about our skies.

Note all the chemtrails in the sky.  They are there, I believe, to get viewers accustomed to seeing a sky filled with "lines" all across it, and as time continues, the very youngest will never have seen normal skies anyway, so these chemtrailed skies will look perfectly "normal" to them.  Eventually chemtrailed skies may begin to appear normal to those who did not grow up seeing them.

Nothing gets by you iLinda! Very cool 8) as were the 2 Sirius recommendations and screen dumps. Thanks!
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on April 25, 2015, 12:26:09 PM
ilinda and GenericUser - interesting posts!
In case Marshall missed all this I will let him know about the discussion and the video and screen shots. Marshall and the Researcher may be interested to see your original screen shots and/or view the video...
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on May 03, 2015, 05:14:19 AM
Yesterday I watched the movie Virunga, a documentary based on the last stronghold (?weakhold?) of the planet's surviving Mountain Gorillas in the wild, and how oil interests might be about to finish it/them off.

In the last approximate seven minutes of the movie there was a sunset scene, in which the sun was interesting enough to reproduce here.  I caught three screenshots in quick succession, and am now attempting (for the third time) to reduce the size of these shots.

I am no expert in the field of sundogs, solar flares, and things related, but these shots are worth study I think.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Jimfarmer on May 03, 2015, 09:37:03 AM
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the sun was interesting

Since the bright spot at the Sun's edge is in front of the clouds, at this stage it would seem to be a lens flare.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on May 03, 2015, 07:16:08 PM
Quote
the sun was interesting

Since the bright spot at the Sun's edge is in front of the clouds, at this stage it would seem to be a lens flare.
Thank you, Jim.  It does also seem "in front" of the sun.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on May 03, 2015, 10:10:39 PM
Quote
the sun was interesting

Since the bright spot at the Sun's edge is in front of the clouds, at this stage it would seem to be a lens flare.

Good Grief, let's hope that is a lens flare...
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: GenericUser on May 13, 2015, 04:56:39 AM
A Discovery By a MUFON field investigator just changed How We Think About Alien Creatures
or
The Anti-government coverup truthers caught covering up their own agenda:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMGsyg5geoE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMGsyg5geoE)


Foreshadowing?

This, today, from Yahoo News but you'll have to follow the link to see the beautiful pictures:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/discovery-one-saturns-moons-just-182029759.html



A discovery on one of Saturn's moons just changed how we think about alien life


By Jessica Orwig 5 hours ago
.

(Cassini Imaging Team, SSI, JPL, ESA, NASA) The possibility of alien life thriving somewhere other than Earth is now stronger than ever before.

Underwater hydrothermal vents — the same kind that may have spawned life on our planet — seem to be lining the ocean floors of Saturn's tiny, water-rich moon called Enceladus, according to two recently published papers.
This is the most compelling evidence we have so far for the existence of these vents anywhere other than Earth. The latest discovery is a tantalizing hint that the conditions right for life may be present outside of Earth.
While Enceladus is watery, it is no Earth: It is only about 300 miles across. But underneath a thick, icy, shell, lies a water ocean habitat that resembles the conditions on an adolescent Earth, between 3.5 and 4 billion years ago.
Back then, Earth was covered in a single, global ocean. Most of the ocean is thought to have been extremely acidic — to0 acidic to create life — except around certain underwater, hydrothermal vents where pockets of warm, less-acidic water could have formed. These conditions would have been the ideal place for life to arise on Earth, according to NASA scientist Michael Russel.
With this latest announcement, hydrothermal vents with these pockets of warm water are now believed to exist outside of Earth — at the bottom of Enceladus's oceans.
So how did these researchers find vents under miles of ice? Using the instruments on board the Cassini spacecraft, the team measured the size and number of silicon-rich particles, called silicates, in Saturn's second outer-most ring, the E ring. The E ring is made of particles that came from the moon's plumes and therefore tells scientists something about what is going on underneath the surface.
Once formed, these particles rise to the surface where they escape to space through plumes off the moon's south polar region, shown in the arresting image below taken by Cassini:

View gallery
.

(Cassini Imaging Team, SSI, JPL, ESA, NASA) The silicates' chemical makeup, size, and abundance gives an indication of what is forming in the ocean underneath Enceladus's surface. And the result is incredibly exciting.

To show that these particles could come from hydrothermal vents, the team re-created them in the lab. To their surprise, they discovered that particles of this chemical composition, size, and abundance only grow under a very specific set of conditions. The team reported their findings Wednesday in the journal Nature.
What's more shocking is that these conditions are remarkably similar to a unique, underwater environment here on Earth, called the Lost City, which some researchers consider the cradle of life.
A miraculous find

View gallery
.

(NOAA Photo Library on Flickr) Lost City Expedition 2005. One of four pinnacles that form the summit of the 200-foot tall carbonate chimney called Poseidon in the Lost City hydrothermal field. The Lost City is a field of hydrothermal vents that was first discovered in the mid-Atlantic ocean in the year 2000. Unlike other hydrothermal vents on Earth, this unique environment has basic, non-acidic, waters that clock in at comfortable temperatures between 100 and 200 degrees Fahrenheit. Other vents can reach up to a scorching 860 degrees Fahrenheit.

Moreover, the life that thrives in the Lost City is mostly simple microorganisms — nothing like the larger, more complex life forms hanging around other vents on Earth's ocean floor. Some scientists think that these super-simple life forms could be close-descendants of the first single-celled life on Earth.
The team's latest discovery makes Enceladus one of the most likely places in the solar system where alien life could exist, Linda Spilker, a project scientist with Cassini at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory who was not involved with the study, told Business Insider.
"You have energy, nutrients, and liquid water which create a potential habit that could support life," Spilker said.
In another recent paper published online in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, a different team of researchers reports additional evidence supporting the presence of hydrothermal vents. The researchers used Cassini to measure the amount of methane inside of the plumes of Enceladus as Cassini flew threw them, and found more methane than what was expected.
Methane is one of the main products that the Lost City's hydrothermal vents generate. This excess methane is likely coming from hydrothermal vents, Spilker said.
"The methane story helps verify what we found with the tiny sillica particles," Spilker said.
These vents may be powered by tidal energy generated by Saturn's powerful gravitational tug on the tiny moon.
A recipe for success

View gallery
.

(NASA/JPL-Caltech/Space Science Institute) Enceladus floating in space beneath Saturn's rings with a larger moon, Titan, in the background. Scientists first discovered that Enceladus was spewing jets of water vapor and ice back in 2005. This discovery rocked the scientific community because it indicated that Enceladus hosted liquid water underneath its surface. That was the first time astrobiologists began looking at Enceladus as a possible place to harbor alien life.

Then, in 2009, scientists discovered that not only was there an ocean, but it was salty, like the oceans on Earth.
And now there's compelling evidence that deep beneath the moon's icy surface, these salty oceans contain active hydrothermal vents like the vents of the Lost City.
About the only difference between Earth's oceans and those on Enceladus is evidence of life.
Although Spilker said that the most likely source for both team's measurements is hydrothermal vents, the authors of the Nature paper caution that farther investigations are needed to ultimately confirm the presence of active vents on Enceladus. It's not like we can see them under all that ice and ocean.
The fact that we now have two very different measurements pointing to the same hydrothermal source, however, is encouraging.
The ultimate question
Cassini has made game-changing discoveries of Enceladus since it first began flying by the tiny moon in 2005, but it is not equipped with the right instruments to answer the ultimate question: Is there life on Enceladus?
And right now, NASA has no official plans to dispatch another spacecraft to Saturn any time soon, Spilker told Business Insider. Moreover, it takes at least three years to reach Saturn, so it's going to be a while before we gain a better idea of what might be lurking beneath Enceladus's surface.
Cassini is scheduled to make its last three visits to Enceladus this year: two in October and the final flyby on December 19.
NOW WATCH: Scientists Have A Pretty Good Idea What Aliens May Actually Look Like
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on June 28, 2015, 08:47:40 PM
Note:  the pics and videos are worth going to the site.

http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2015/06/27/three-ufos-sighted-during-hd-internati

Three UFOs Sighted During HD International Space Station Feed, NASA Abruptly Cuts Transmission


Brad Ryder

June 27th, 2015 10:41pm EDT

NASA has yet another UFO sighting that adds to its growing list of strange phenenoma and alleged extraterrestrial coverups, according to paranormal and conspiracy theorists, citing a BizTek Mojo report.
Recently, a video titled, “UFO Mysteries: UFOs, Angels Or Biological Creatures Seen Leaving The Earth?” made its way on YouTube. Reportedly, the footage is from an International Space Station camera (or ISS).
As seen in the video: While the floating lab orbits Earth, three fast-moving objects suddenly appear in succession, as if they launched from the planet. However, there is no information available of any scheduled space flights from any space program.

The UFOs converged and then sped off, but not before NASA abruptly ended live transmission. Suddenly, the feed cut to a broadcast message from the space agency that explains the interruption as a "loss of signal."


"Please stand by. The High Definition Earth Viewing experiment is either switching cameras, or we are experiencing a temporary loss of signal with the International Space Station."
The user, Michael Clottey, appears convinced the three UFOs are authentic and proof of alien life in the Solar System and beyond.
"BINGO Caught them red-handed leaving earths orbit.  Thats the kind of proof that is needed.  Excellent footage, absolutely Fantastic.  One for the books.  Let the debunkers try and say it's space trash. I don't think there is anything they can say about this footage apart from just saying it is fake and just CGI hahaha.  Wow amazing stuff.  This must go viral."
Others remain skeptical of a UFO explanation. Some suggest flashing orbs are camera trickery or CGI at work. One person even thinks the unidentified objects near the ISS were weather balloons.
Similar to past protocols regarding UFO sightings, NASA has not commented on the latest accusations of a suspected covert program that possibly harbors alien life. Many say it's not what the agency says, but what it fails to communicate to the public. As a consequence, some say the three UFOs and others like them, are "proof" that officials are covering up extraterrestrial contact.
With the so-called Mars pyramid -- recently "discovered" by the Curiosity Rover -- fresh on the minds of stargazers, NASA may have a time explaining the three UFOs or anomalies.
Did the video above look convincing? Share your theory about what you think the footage shows?



Photo Credits: Twitter
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on July 20, 2015, 01:05:14 PM
ilinda -thanks for all the interesting items you are posting.
Much appreciated.
 :)
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on November 25, 2015, 10:15:00 AM
And here's another example of NASA cutting the cable....I think this was early November, 2015.  There are too many graphics to copy&paste here, so here is the link:

NASA 'Cuts Space Station Live Feed'  After Bizarre Donut UFO Stalked ISS'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/621741/NASA-cut-space-station-live-feed-after-bizarre-donut-UFO-stalked-ISS
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on March 03, 2016, 07:27:20 AM
Yesterday on rense.com this was scrolling through the "Rense Videos" so I caught a screen capture of it, since I cannot ever seem to be able to watch the videos.
This might be referring to the same incident posted here on November 25, 2015.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on March 03, 2016, 09:32:57 PM
And here's another example of NASA cutting the cable....I think this was early November, 2015.  There are too many graphics to copy&paste here, so here is the link:

NASA 'Cuts Space Station Live Feed'  After Bizarre Donut UFO Stalked ISS'

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/621741/NASA-cut-space-station-live-feed-after-bizarre-donut-UFO-stalked-ISS
ilinda, thanks for posting about that...was the first I'd heard this story...
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: MadMax on August 13, 2016, 04:07:30 PM
 found this article quite interesting!

Murder at the South Pole?

http://planetxnews.com/2016/07/23/murder-south-pole/


At the bottom of the world, at Amundsen-Scott Base on the South Pole, Australian scientist Rodney Marks died in 2000. He lay there trapped and far removed from conventional medical treatments. What had appeared to be a small problem became an unsolvable problem in no time.

This was in May of 2000. Several months afterward, tests proved that he had been poisoned by a lethal dosage of methanol alcohol. New Zealand authorities were stonewalled in their attempts to find further information. What happened to this Australian astronomer who died a mysterious death at the world’s most remote location?

Police suggest he may have been murdered. Suicide seems unlikely. He had been awakened at 5:30 AM vomiting blood and with a tremendous pain in his stomach. He went to the base hospital that day. Dr. Thompson, the physician, had only two links to the outside world. One was an Internet connection and the second was a satellite phone. Both were down.

What was the real story behind Rodney Mark’s death? He worked for the AST/RO program. This is an acronym for the Antarctic Sub millimeter Telescope and Remote Observatory. He spent most of his time collected data on viewing conditions and the operations of the enormous infrared telescope. Did he know too much???

Max.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on August 14, 2017, 04:50:56 PM
found this article quite interesting!

Murder at the South Pole?

http://planetxnews.com/2016/07/23/murder-south-pole/


At the bottom of the world, at Amundsen-Scott Base on the South Pole, Australian scientist Rodney Marks died in 2000. He lay there trapped and far removed from conventional medical treatments. What had appeared to be a small problem became an unsolvable problem in no time.

This was in May of 2000. Several months afterward, tests proved that he had been poisoned by a lethal dosage of methanol alcohol. New Zealand authorities were stonewalled in their attempts to find further information. What happened to this Australian astronomer who died a mysterious death at the world’s most remote location?

Police suggest he may have been murdered. Did he know too much???

Max.
Yes.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on August 15, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
At this point, they would ALL know too much...
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on August 15, 2017, 03:27:18 PM
And yes, it's so far/late into this thing that as someone said recently, "it doesn't matter what you believe anymore", or something like that. 
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on August 15, 2017, 10:58:02 PM
And yes, it's so far/late into this thing that as someone said recently, "it doesn't matter what you believe anymore", or something like that.
If the PX scenario unfolds the way we think...no it don't matter who believes what.
When it is all over with, the survivors probably won't even agree on what just happened.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on August 17, 2017, 05:05:14 PM
And yes, it's so far/late into this thing that as someone said recently, "it doesn't matter what you believe anymore", or something like that.
If the PX scenario unfolds the way we think...no it don't matter who believes what.
When it is all over with, the survivors probably won't even agree on what just happened.
I bet you're absolutely right. 

In the U.S., each political party will blame the other, religions will blame other religions, homophobes will blame gays, xenophobes will blame immigrants, countries will blame other countries, and especially the U.S. will blame North Korea, China, and Russia, and just for good measure many smaller defenseless countries.

Anyone who does survive, and with a sense of humor intact, can just sit back and laugh at the hilarious blame game that will have ensued!  No lessons learned for some.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: R.R. Book on August 17, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Quote
When it is all over with, the survivors probably won't even agree on what just happened.

Especially with the Internet down long-term.  I guess we'll each write our own local history and maybe compare notes some day.  Or the ET's will fill in the gaps for us with their technology that is probably far superior to our Internet...
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: MadMax on August 27, 2017, 11:26:18 AM
DARK PATCH Of Space Hidden By NASA 8/26/17!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLsmTFVq050&feature=youtu.be

Max.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: R.R. Book on August 27, 2017, 02:59:27 PM
Wow Max, Just when we think we've see the largest orb in PX, another bigger one appears! 

Awesome!
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on August 27, 2017, 05:01:14 PM
DARK PATCH Of Space Hidden By NASA 8/26/17!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLsmTFVq050&feature=youtu.be

Max.
Wow.  Thanks, MadMax, and that certainly isn't the first time NASA has erased parts of satellite images, and won't be the last.  So thanks to your posting this, we can know there is DEFINITELY something they don't want us to see.  The erasure tells us more than we'd know if we had never even seen the satellite photos.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on August 20, 2018, 03:38:01 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/14-year-old-football-player-complaining-headache-dies-rare-neurological-disease-204022946.html

14-year-old Football Player Complaining of a Headache Dies From Rare Neurological Disease

 Hope Schreiber,Yahoo Lifestyle Wed, Aug 15 3:40 PM CDT

When Christopher Bunch, 14, returned from football practice on Monday, Aug. 6, life seemed relatively normal for his Iowa family. He had complained about having a headache earlier in the day, but his mother, Destiny Maynard, believed it was due to dehydration.

Sadly, the headache that the soon-to-be high school freshman was experiencing was a symptom of acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM), a rare neurological disease that occurs after a viral or bacterial infection. ADEM also — although rarely — can occur after vaccinations

Maynard said that her son had both an infection and vaccinations recently. 


Children are more likely than adults to develop ADEM, which is a brief, yet intense, swelling of the brain and spinal cord. 
In just 48 hours, Christopher’s symptoms worsened, and he was sent to the University of Iowa Stead Family Children’s Hospital. There, he lost the ability to breathe on his own, and the left side of his body became paralyzed.

On Aug. 12, Christopher’s father, Elijah Mendoza, said on Facebook that his son had a brain herniation. Two days later, the family announced Christopher’s death.

“As of 1:02pm On 8/14/18 Christopher Bunch has went to Heaven. RIP my baby,” Maynard wrote.
“R.I.P. my sweet blonde blue eyed boy,” Mendoza wrote. 

Editor's note:  This "disease" is said to sometimes occur after vaccinations, and knowing what we know about Big Pharma and MSM always covering for Big Pharma, it could well be that this so-called disease is in some cases merely a reaction to vaccination. 

I did a search and found that of the ten articles listed on the first search page, the oldest article was published in 2001, suggesting that this ADEM is relatively new, i.e., appearing soon after vaccine requirements were being ramped up from a few to literally dozens required per child.  In this case it appears that the vaccination played a key role, possibly a vaccine the poor guy didn't even need.

Some brave journalist could have easily titled the article,
"14-Year Old Football Player Complaining of a Headache Dies Shortly After Vaccination"
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: R.R. Book on August 20, 2018, 03:53:04 PM
This is infuriating to me as a mother.  Such a waste of life.  Both of my sons had 60 days of diarrhea after the MMR vaccine, and the nurse noted that my older son was running a fever at the time that she went ahead and jabbed him anyway.  We reported both incidents to the VARS hotline, and then a double-board certified pediatric allergist ordered the boys completely off of vaccines. 

Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: MadMax on September 13, 2018, 04:28:00 PM
Gotta love this one!

NASA appoints “planetary protection officer” to act as an intermediary between humans and extraterrestrial life   ??? :-\

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-13-nasa-appoints-planetary-protection-officer-extraterrestrial-life.html#

NASA appoints “planetary protection officer” to act as an intermediary between humans and extraterrestrial life

Thursday, September 13, 2018 by: Edsel Cook   
Tags: alien bacteria, alien life, biocontamination, contamination, cosmis, extraterrestrials, Mars 2020, Mars exploration, NASA, Private Space Exploration, private spacecraft, satellites, Spacecraft, UFO, Unexplained
1,030Views
Image: NASA appoints “planetary protection officer” to act as an intermediary between humans and extraterrestrial life

(Natural News) The recently appointed “planetary protection officer” of NASA has a big job. Lisa Pratt is in charge of the space agency’s efforts to prevent biological material from contaminating a planet’s biosphere, an article in Space.com stated.

On one hand, Pratt must make sure there are no bacteria from Earth aboard U.S. spacecraft that can cause “forward contamination” to other planets. Otherwise, these could damage or destroy the biospheres of alien worlds.

At the same time, she also needs to prevent potential bioactive molecules in samples from extraterrestrial sources – asteroids, comets, meteorites, and other planets – from causing “backward contamination” on Earth. Such biological contaminants could trigger a deadly epidemic on Earth.

Pratt heads NASA’s Office of Planetary Protection (OPP), which has recently focused its efforts on designing U.S. spacecraft to prevent biological contamination of plants, including our own. The office is reappraising its approach to protecting planets from contamination given its future plans to get samples from Mars.

The OPP is also worried about the increasing number of private sector groups that are exploring space without the stringent safety measures imposed by NASA. (Related: NASA developing technology to help find astronauts lost in space.)

Max.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: MadMax on October 18, 2018, 02:44:13 PM
VERY strange story (wonder what they are really trying to hide ..

China plans to ‘launch its own artificial moon’ by 2020  ??? ::)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-moon-launch-artificial-satellite-chengdu-light-a8589241.html

China is planning to launch its own “artificial moon” by the year 2020, it has been reported.

The city of Chengdu has unveiled plans to replace the city’s streetlights with a satellite that will boost the glow of the real moon.

The artificial moon will be able to light an area with a diameter of 10 to 80 kilometres.

Wu Chunfeng, chairman of Chengdu aerospace science and technology microelectronics system research institute, announced the news and said that the artificial moon would be eight times brighter than the real moon, according to the People’s Daily.

He added that the testing of the illumination started years ago and is now ready.

The manmade moon will have a coating that can reflect light from the sun with solar panel-like wings.

Max.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on October 19, 2018, 10:03:48 AM
I'm not liking this already.....
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: R.R. Book on October 19, 2018, 11:26:59 AM
Wonder how much input from the average person was solicited before this was launched?    The only reason there is no law protecting the people from such bureaucratic overreach is that this is so unimaginable that no one would have dreamed of a need to legislate on this topic proactively.

Maybe the rumor is true that we are about to lose the real moon...

Also wonder, since it's 8 times brighter than the real moon, if it will interfere with circadian rhythms, or worse?

So now we supposedly have artificial people, artificial animals, artificial food, an artificial sun and an artificial moon.  Is there anything left that hasn't been tampered with?

Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on October 19, 2018, 06:49:23 PM
In normal circumstances a world power such as China this project would be done with mutual information and cooperation with the space programs of the US and Europe and Russia, etc.
I am not sure the current situation, but back in 2011 China was banned from the ISS project as part of congressional action led by Republican House member, Frank Wolf.
https://www.quora.com/Why-is-China-not-part-of-the-ISS  In the 2011 United States federal budget, Wolf inserted a clause prohibiting NASA and the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy from any joint scientific activity with China for the remainder of the 2011 fiscal year. 
...
Yowbarb Note: Not sure, this policy might still stand.
This would be a really complex project and it would have to not interfere with any satellites in other countries etc. during launch or in its orbit.

Update:  June 4, 2018 -
https://www.zdnet.com/article/china-unveils-plans-to-build-a-new-space-station-as-iss-gears-up-for-trouble/

China to build a new space station as ISS faces investment woes
As the International Space Station (ISS) faces future funding cutbacks, China has jumped into the fray with off-world plans of its own
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on October 19, 2018, 06:54:41 PM
Gotta love this one!

NASA appoints “planetary protection officer” to act as an intermediary between humans and extraterrestrial life   ??? :-\

https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-09-13-nasa-appoints-planetary-protection-officer-extraterrestrial-life.html#

NASA appoints “planetary protection officer” to act as an intermediary between humans and extraterrestrial life

Thursday, September 13, 2018 by: Edsel Cook   
Tags: alien bacteria, alien life, biocontamination, contamination, cosmis, extraterrestrials, Mars 2020, Mars exploration, NASA, Private Space Exploration, private spacecraft, satellites, Spacecraft, UFO, Unexplained
1,030Views
Image: NASA appoints “planetary protection officer” to act as an intermediary between humans and extraterrestrial life

(Natural News) The recently appointed “planetary protection officer” of NASA has a big job. Lisa Pratt is in charge of the space agency’s efforts to prevent biological material from contaminating a planet’s biosphere, an article in Space.com stated.

On one hand, Pratt must make sure there are no bacteria from Earth aboard U.S. spacecraft that can cause “forward contamination” to other planets. Otherwise, these could damage or destroy the biospheres of alien worlds.

At the same time, she also needs to prevent potential bioactive molecules in samples from extraterrestrial sources – asteroids, comets, meteorites, and other planets – from causing “backward contamination” on Earth. Such biological contaminants could trigger a deadly epidemic on Earth.

Pratt heads NASA’s Office of Planetary Protection (OPP), which has recently focused its efforts on designing U.S. spacecraft to prevent biological contamination of plants, including our own. The office is reappraising its approach to protecting planets from contamination given its future plans to get samples from Mars.

The OPP is also worried about the increasing number of private sector groups that are exploring space without the stringent safety measures imposed by NASA. (Related: NASA developing technology to help find astronauts lost in space.)

Max.

MadMax, interesting.
Now, I'm not saying that somewhere in the world of NASA there is not a specific program about alien life (not microbes but humanoid life) which would be a very secret program, but I feel the program described in THIS article is not about that.
I check with Snopes once in a while. Here is what I found, below.
All The Best,
Barb T.
...
https://www.snopes.com/?s=planetary+protection+officer
Search results for: planetary protection officer
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Is NASA Hiring Someone to Protect Earth from Aliens?
3 August 2017 NASA has announced a job opening for a planetary protection officer, but viral news reports take significant liberties when describing the nature of the job.

CLAIM
NASA will hire someone (with a secret security clearance) to ensure alien life doesn't make its way to Earth.

RATING  MIXTURE

WHAT'S TRUE
In July 2017, NASA opened applications for the job of Planetary Protection Officer, a role primarily concerned with preventing contamination from Earth to other planets.

WHAT'S FALSE
While the job does have a mandate to prevent extraterrestrial contamination from entering Earth’s biosphere, most of the job involves working with missions to design systems that prevent them from accidentally bringing life with them to other worlds.

ORIGIN
On 2 August 2017, USA Today reported on a NASA job posting for a “planetary protection officer” in a way that — while sure to boost page views — took serious liberties with the nature of, and need for, the position advertised. Several other web sites reprinted the USA Today article, using headlines like “NASA is Hiring Someone to Protect Earth from Aliens,” which stated:

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration is currently looking for someone with a secret security clearance to ensure alien life, or “organic-constituent and biological contamination” doesn’t make its way back in a space ship.

While this statement is technically true, it misrepresents of the nature of the work performed by the planetary protection officer — the most significant aspect of which is to prevent other planets and space objects from becoming contaminated by us.

The NASA job posting makes this clear:

This position is assigned to Office of Safety and Mission Assurance for Planetary Protection. Planetary protection is concerned with the avoidance of organic-constituent and biological contamination in human and robotic space exploration.

NASA maintains policies for planetary protection applicable to all space flight missions that may intentionally or unintentionally carry Earth organisms and organic constituents to the planets or other solar system bodies, and any mission employing spacecraft, which are intended to return to Earth and its biosphere with samples from extraterrestrial targets of exploration. This policy is based on federal requirements and international treaties and agreements.

Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on October 20, 2018, 07:02:00 PM
Does anyone think this job is just for show?  I mean, surely NASA cannot be blind to the testimonies of numerous retired astronauts, others in the space program and military, who have experienced life from other realms.  Plus, what about all the "objects" seen in various satellite video captures? 

It's OK if this is just for "show", because after all how much confidence does anyone here have in NASA being forthright?  Some refer to NASA as "Never A Straight Answer", although I probably wouldn't go quite that far!
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: ilinda on October 21, 2018, 06:54:14 PM
"Government Coverup" seems the appropriate place to post this excerpt from www.guymcpherson.com. 
Deeper into the site it can be found at: https://guymcpherson.com/2018/10/belize-in-the-rear-view-mirror/#more-17494

(Editor's Note: The phenomenon of CIA operatives posing as "missionaries" in third-world countries is not new, but I just never realized they would use "Mennonite groups" as a front name. )
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: R.R. Book on October 22, 2018, 06:33:28 AM
That is entirely creepy Ilinda.  MCC (Mennonite Central Committee) is supposed to do such good work, but PTB are capable of any low tactic, as we have observed.

I guess any "brand" is capable of being co-opted.  Am thinking about Coca Cola, Chiquita, Dole, etc.
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: Yowbarb on October 22, 2018, 05:42:05 PM
Does anyone think this job is just for show?  I mean, surely NASA cannot be blind to the testimonies of numerous retired astronauts, others in the space program and military, who have experienced life from other realms.  Plus, what about all the "objects" seen in various satellite video captures? 

It's OK if this is just for "show", because after all how much confidence does anyone here have in NASA being forthright?  Some refer to NASA as "Never A Straight Answer", although I probably wouldn't go quite that far!

ilinda, well, the only thing I feel must be true for sure is: 
NASA and ESA would surely have a program, specific protocols created, specifically to ensure the various probes, rovers, spaceships did not carry back potentially devastating microbes from other objects in space. Anything brought back would be secured... We sure hope so...
As for the rest of it, sure NASA must know by know about alien humanoid life.
How could they not... even of no direct contact or specimens they would have footage of the probes, saucers and spaceships, sure!
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: MadMax on November 03, 2018, 05:57:57 PM
‘NASA is hiding life on Mars’: Here’s what’s really going on in red planet ‘explosion’ IMAGES  :-[

https://www.rt.com/news/442005-nasa-life-on-mars/

Conspiracy theorists went into overdrive after spotting a ‘mysterious plume of smoke’ near a dormant Martian volcano, with many claiming this as proof that alien life exists on the red planet and we’re being lied to here on Earth.

Allegations of a NASA-led cover up spread like wildfire online, with popular conspiracy theory YouTube channel secureteam10 producing an eight-minute long exposé entitled, ‘Something MAJOR Happened On Mars.. Are They Hiding It?’

"There was an explosion – I don't know whether it was a volcano or something detonated," Tyler Glockner of secureteam10 told his audience, during a video which has amassed almost 390,000 views since publication on October 20.

One commenter on the video drew upon his welding experience to lay bare the terraforming operations already underway on Mars, citing craters formed by lightning strikes as evidence of alien technology reshaping the planet’s atmosphere. “Too many coincidences here to ignore any more. NASA needs to stop being the police of the scientific community.”

“NASA is a BS agency, staffed by self-sanctimonious liars. Mars is a living planet, as anyone who has studied Mars for the last 50 years [knows],” another commenter agreed.

This secureteam10 video was then picked up by a British tabloid, which fanned the conspiratorial flames while connecting the disparate dots of NASA’s clever ruse: the Mars Curiosity Rover suffered a mysterious glitch, rendering it offline for months after a huge dust storm in late Spring; the Hubble and Chandra telescopes were recently put in “safe mode” allowing for only basic functionality; and NASA was conspicuously silent about the 2,000km-long plume of smoke stretching across Martian skies. Wake up, sheeple!

Max
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: MadMax on November 03, 2018, 06:05:04 PM
Here is a link to SecureTeam10's VERY interesting Mars video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-YA-5t8esU
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: R.R. Book on November 04, 2018, 04:42:43 AM
Interesting to compare NASA's images vs. the European Space Agency's...

Also interesting that something is happening on Mars just as it is simultaneously electromagnetically cut off from the remainder of the solar system, per Croft - almost as if it's being quarantined...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaRw6v1cECs
Title: Re: NASA or Other Government Coverup
Post by: MadMax on November 08, 2018, 01:12:49 PM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-24/rectangular-iceberg-spotted-in-antarctic/10422266?section=world

NASA scientists have discovered an unusual rectangular iceberg floating off the Larsen C ice shelf in Antarctica.
Key points:

    NASA's IceBridge flight was conducting airborne survey of Arctic and Antarctic ice
    Sharp angles and flat surface of iceberg indicate it probably recently broke off the ice shelf
    Rectangular iceberg appears to be freshly calved from Larsen C which released the massive A68 iceberg in 2017

Images of the unusual icebergs were captured on NASA's IceBridge flight, an airborne survey of Arctic and Antarctic ice yielding detailed, three-dimensional views of ice sheets, ice shelves and sea ice.

According to scientists, the iceberg's sharp angles and flat surface are an indication that it had probably recently broken off the ice shelf.

"I often see icebergs with relatively straight edges, but I've not really seen one before with two corners at such right angles like this one," (must have just happened that way) Operation IceBridge senior support scientist Jeremy Harbeck said.