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ilinda - SURVIVAL HEALTH => SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF => Topic started by: Yowbarb on September 10, 2016, 10:04:33 AM

Title: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on September 10, 2016, 10:04:33 AM
Starting with this video trailer about Leonard Nimoy's battle with COPD- documentary due to be released in November - :
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Leonard Nimoy's Deadly Disease Focus of New Documentary Trailer
By Elizabeth Howell, Space.com Contributor | September 6, 2016 04:57pm ET

http://www.space.com/33979-leonard-nimoy-disease-highly-illogical-documentary-trailer.html

Excerpts: The trailer shows family members repeating Nimoy's reassurance after the paparazzi released photos of him in the wheelchair. At the time, Nimoy urged his loved ones not to be scared. Then he spoke with journalist Piers Morgan publicly about the disease for the first time, in a live television interview.

"I quit [smoking] a long time ago," Nimoy said to Morgan in a clip shown in the trailer. "Why is this happening to me?"



Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on September 10, 2016, 10:29:19 AM
Yowbarb Note: There are paperbacks on Amazon for as little as 10 bucks. I for one am going to buy it and see what  can be done.
I will be posting screen shots of this blog...meanwhile the link and a few excerpts:
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http://reverseemphysemacopd.blogspot.com/  How I Reversed My Mom's Emphysema

SUNDAY, MAY 3, 2015  W.G. Miller
An actual account of my mother's struggles and ongoing recovery from emphysema/COPD. After realizing the medical industry had absolutely no viable answers or cures for this disease, I began a 4 year, 6500 hour research sabbatical to try and save her life even though her doctors said it was futile and actually, almost miraculously, reversed her emphysema. You won't believe what I found!



Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on July 17, 2017, 06:45:01 PM
Yowbarb Note: Some simple tips, including a video on breathing exercises, from Dr. Axe.

https://draxe.com/copd-symptoms/   Top 10 Ways to Treat COPD Symptoms Naturally
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on July 18, 2017, 05:31:35 PM
Extremely fascinating, as that's basically what killed my dad.  (Besides smoking for decades!)
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on July 19, 2017, 05:52:00 AM
Extremely fascinating, as that's basically what killed my dad.  (Besides smoking for decades!)

I'm really sorry to hear that...
It happens so often.
I remember my old Grandma Vina. She smoked on off throughout the day, finally perished from a stroke, not lung cancer or lung disease, and she was 94 years old.
She had her "marbles" until that last couple years of her life... She was still taking Greyhound busses cross country to visit us until age 80. She went up to "Wild Acres" about 9,000 feet and camped by herself, sometime in her 80s. (She homesteaded the land.)
I wonder if the cigs were better in those days...
Cigs are really bad for me, I know... last time I lit up was 1987 and had quit before that... when i lit up in 1987 was just smoking with a buddy, bumming a couple of her Sherman cigs.
Note: I quit for years at a time. Every time I was pregnant, then nursing I quit. Five kids, and I nursed them a long time. I would quit then suddenly smoke again, but not chain smoking all day.

Many years ago, my oldest bro loaned me a book called, "Sugar Blues," and in that book they discussed American Cigarettes versus foreign ones. Cancer rates in US versus in other countries.
In many third world countries people smoke a lot (they work a lot but on breaks they smoke.) But the cancer rate is not as high.
The book resented the theory that American cigs have lots of toxins in the papers and also sugar is added.
Well, that just popped into my mind.
I also know COPD is not always caused by smoking... Some people have a genetic predisposition to inflammation, immune problems... That said, smoking does not help...
Second-hand smoke very bad especially for people with asthma and COPD...

Another tidbit, African American little kids are more at risk for lung disease. African Americans are more sensitive to environmental pollution, I feel. City pollution, airport pollution, cockroaches in house, common in cities...
I think I do carry the African genes... I notice I am far more sensitive to things than my kids...I think my paternal Grandfather had the genes...
It is possible African Americans, Native Americans just more at risk for modern, urban pollutants. Oh yeah, GMO too.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on July 19, 2017, 06:00:47 AM
Well that last post of mine was sort of a hodgepodge - I hope it helps someone.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on July 19, 2017, 06:05:12 AM
I have some close family members who seem hopelessly addicted to smoking... Very disheartening...
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on July 20, 2017, 03:59:02 PM

Many years ago, my oldest bro loaned me a book called, "Sugar Blues," and in that book they discussed American Cigarettes versus foreign ones. Cancer rates in US versus in other countries.
In many third world countries people smoke a lot (they work a lot but on breaks they smoke.) But the cancer rate is not as high.
The book resented the theory that American cigs have lots of toxins in the papers and also sugar is added.
Well, that just popped into my mind.
I also know COPD is not always caused by smoking... Some people have a genetic predisposition to inflammation, immune problems... That said, smoking does not help...
Second-hand smoke very bad especially for people with asthma and COPD...

Another tidbit, African American little kids are more at risk for lung disease. African Americans are more sensitive to environmental pollution, I feel. City pollution, airport pollution, cockroaches in house, common in cities...
I think I do carry the African genes... I notice I am far more sensitive to things than my kids...I think my paternal Grandfather had the genes...
It is possible African Americans, Native Americans just more at risk for modern, urban pollutants. Oh yeah, GMO too.
Cigarettes' ingredients have changed over the years, in the manner that food ingredients have.  I researched this topic a few years ago and IIRC there are up to 500 ingredients added to cigarettes, primarily to the tobacco, but possibly to the paper or filter as well.  Some of the ingredients are aspartame (Nutrisweet), formaldehyde, etc.  Once I read the list, it dawned on me that these toxins are being placed there to poison people even more, as if tobacco grown with pesticide isn't enough.  As a teenager, I remember smoking Kent "with the Micronite filter".  I found out decades later that the "Micronite filter" was asbestos!  Serves me right.

As as for "African genes", we all carry them to one extent or another.  We're all Black when you think about it.  Humans came out of Africa.  Since "race" is a human mental construct, and is not based on any sum total of genes that can identify an individual as "Black" or "White", etc., and since there are more differences among people of a given "race", than there are differences between the so-called races, it is easy see how any of us might carry "African genes", as easy as it is to see how a Black person can carry so-called "white genes". 

I, too, seem to have propensity for lung ailments, but of course my own smoking didn't help!
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 20, 2017, 08:31:31 PM
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Humans came out of Africa.
  That is an old assumption that is currently being questioned.

Over the eons, Earth was visited and colonized by several ET races, and traces of their DNA remain in humans now.  According to some Internet sources, the differentiating genes of the different races of humans came from different star systems.

See "Ufologist ‘confirms with scientific evidence’ that extraterrestrials lived with humans on Earth" at http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2017/07/ufologist-confirms-with-scientific.html  dated July 19, 2017.

Ah, here we are.  See "What they’re not telling us About Human Evolution? Humans Didn't Evolve ALONGSIDE Other Lifeforms" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vmDyrRi2U  Dated  July 20, 2017   Duration 7:51
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on July 21, 2017, 05:55:42 PM
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Humans came out of Africa.
  That is an old assumption that is currently being questioned.

Over the eons, Earth was visited and colonized by several ET races, and traces of their DNA remain in humans now.  According to some Internet sources, the differentiating genes of the different races of humans came from different star systems.

See "Ufologist ‘confirms with scientific evidence’ that extraterrestrials lived with humans on Earth" at http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2017/07/ufologist-confirms-with-scientific.html  dated July 19, 2017.

Ah, here we are.  See "What they’re not telling us About Human Evolution? Humans Didn't Evolve ALONGSIDE Other Lifeforms" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vmDyrRi2U  Dated  July 20, 2017   Duration 7:51
Actually I agree with the influence on/in our genetic heritage by "alien" beings, having read seveal of Zechariah Sitchin's books, as well as Michael Tellinger's equally revolutionary books.  But if we want to dismiss all of that, we can say that we "came out of Africa".

I have a book called "The Science of the Dogon" which is about a group of people, obviously called the Dogon, who live somewhere in Africa, and who have always claimed that they came from a "double star system", pointing up to a particular place in the night sky.  (I cannot recall exactly where they pointed, i.e., which constellation)  Anyway, they have always claimed that, and the so-called sophisticated white folks with degrees behind their names, brushed them off as silly natives, or whatever.  But in 1929, with a more modern technology available, scientists did finally learn that the twin-sun star system did exist, whereas previously it had always been "known" to be one solitary sun/star.  It was only then that a bit of attention was paid to the claims of the Dogon, who had a lot more to say besides that claim.

So it is probably more correct to say one of our earlier steps was in passing through Africa for many years, but prior to that, there are beings who are reported to have played a role in the genetic engineering/hybridizing of what they found here, with what they brought (themselves).

And I think the main point I was wanting to throw out there is that it is unlikely that any "white" people can claim they share no genes with "black" people.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 16, 2019, 02:44:23 PM
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Humans came out of Africa.
  That is an old assumption that is currently being questioned.

Over the eons, Earth was visited and colonized by several ET races, and traces of their DNA remain in humans now.  According to some Internet sources, the differentiating genes of the different races of humans came from different star systems.

See "Ufologist ‘confirms with scientific evidence’ that extraterrestrials lived with humans on Earth" at http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2017/07/ufologist-confirms-with-scientific.html  dated July 19, 2017.

Ah, here we are.  See "What they’re not telling us About Human Evolution? Humans Didn't Evolve ALONGSIDE Other Lifeforms" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1vmDyrRi2U  Dated  July 20, 2017   Duration 7:51

Jimfarmer, I am basically in agreement with you, I (also) don't think most humans evolved the same way that animals did. I feel evolution does occur continually at different stages independently among all species, in present time...

What is real to me, personally is that some human bodies did evolve here on earth, some human bodies  are a combination of genes of original inhabitants or various stages of humanoid development, mixed with "alien" species. More than one.
Also I really believe many people who walk the earth came here themselves as the conquerors, or taking over the planet, and are part of whom are referred to as aliens who came before etc. but the genetic body lines and the  (spirits) are still here. Why? Perhaps due to some big  technological or space travel catastrophes/wars and they were no longer able to leave and/or likely: the passing of Planet X about 4 times at least, rendering previous technological development temporarily null and void, buried beneath the ash...
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on June 17, 2019, 08:23:07 PM
And after watching many of the Cosmic Disclosure series on Gaia.com, I realiziing what others probably already know, and that is we are truly a melting pot, derived from many original genomes.

One of the most astounding "factoids" in that series, which was mentioned more than once, is that currently there are at least 22 different genetic experiments ongoing with the human population as the target species.  They mentioned that much of this is being undertaken, using vaccines as the delivery system.

According to Corey Goode and others, those bits and pieces of DNA and RNA which are found in vaccines (which have occasionally been reported in alternative news media) represent some of these genetic experiments.  In simple terms, inject the DNA and/or RNA along with the other vaccine ingredients, and no one will know, and the experiment continues undetected.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 17, 2019, 11:41:44 PM

Many years ago, my oldest bro loaned me a book called, "Sugar Blues," and in that book they discussed American Cigarettes versus foreign ones. Cancer rates in US versus in other countries.
In many third world countries people smoke a lot (they work a lot but on breaks they smoke.) But the cancer rate is not as high.
The book resented the theory that American cigs have lots of toxins in the papers and also sugar is added.
Well, that just popped into my mind.
I also know COPD is not always caused by smoking... Some people have a genetic predisposition to inflammation, immune problems... That said, smoking does not help...
Second-hand smoke very bad especially for people with asthma and COPD...

Another tidbit, African American little kids are more at risk for lung disease. African Americans are more sensitive to environmental pollution, I feel. City pollution, airport pollution, cockroaches in house, common in cities...
I think I do carry the African genes... I notice I am far more sensitive to things than my kids...I think my paternal Grandfather had the genes...
It is possible African Americans, Native Americans just more at risk for modern, urban pollutants. Oh yeah, GMO too.
Cigarettes' ingredients have changed over the years, in the manner that food ingredients have.  I researched this topic a few years ago and IIRC there are up to 500 ingredients added to cigarettes, primarily to the tobacco, but possibly to the paper or filter as well.  Some of the ingredients are aspartame (Nutrisweet), formaldehyde, etc.  Once I read the list, it dawned on me that these toxins are being placed there to poison people even more, as if tobacco grown with pesticide isn't enough.  As a teenager, I remember smoking Kent "with the Micronite filter".  I found out decades later that the "Micronite filter" was asbestos!  Serves me right.

As as for "African genes", we all carry them to one extent or another.  We're all Black when you think about it.  Humans came out of Africa.  Since "race" is a human mental construct, and is not based on any sum total of genes that can identify an individual as "Black" or "White", etc., and since there are more differences among people of a given "race", than there are differences between the so-called races, it is easy see how any of us might carry "African genes", as easy as it is to see how a Black person can carry so-called "white genes". 

I, too, seem to have propensity for lung ailments, but of course my own smoking didn't help!

ilinda thanks for sharing these ideas.
I hope you don't have copd like I have...
But I do really believe there is a cure and a spiritual way out to handle all ailments...
I have yet to try the methods I have found online.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 17, 2019, 11:42:35 PM
Extremely fascinating, as that's basically what killed my dad.  (Besides smoking for decades!)

I am so sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 17, 2019, 11:52:13 PM

Many years ago, my oldest bro loaned me a book called, "Sugar Blues," and in that book they discussed American Cigarettes versus foreign ones. Cancer rates in US versus in other countries.
In many third world countries people smoke a lot (they work a lot but on breaks they smoke.) But the cancer rate is not as high.
The book resented the theory that American cigs have lots of toxins in the papers and also sugar is added.
Well, that just popped into my mind.
I also know COPD is not always caused by smoking... Some people have a genetic predisposition to inflammation, immune problems... That said, smoking does not help...
Second-hand smoke very bad especially for people with asthma and COPD...

Another tidbit, African American little kids are more at risk for lung disease. African Americans are more sensitive to environmental pollution, I feel. City pollution, airport pollution, cockroaches in house, common in cities...
I think I do carry the African genes... I notice I am far more sensitive to things than my kids...I think my paternal Grandfather had the genes...
It is possible African Americans, Native Americans just more at risk for modern, urban pollutants. Oh yeah, GMO too.
Cigarettes' ingredients have changed over the years, in the manner that food ingredients have.  I researched this topic a few years ago and IIRC there are up to 500 ingredients added to cigarettes, primarily to the tobacco, but possibly to the paper or filter as well.  Some of the ingredients are aspartame (Nutrisweet), formaldehyde, etc.  Once I read the list, it dawned on me that these toxins are being placed there to poison people even more, as if tobacco grown with pesticide isn't enough.  As a teenager, I remember smoking Kent "with the Micronite filter".  I found out decades later that the "Micronite filter" was asbestos!  Serves me right.

As as for "African genes", we all carry them to one extent or another.  We're all Black when you think about it.  Humans came out of Africa.  Since "race" is a human mental construct, and is not based on any sum total of genes that can identify an individual as "Black" or "White", etc., and since there are more differences among people of a given "race", than there are differences between the so-called races, it is easy see how any of us might carry "African genes", as easy as it is to see how a Black person can carry so-called "white genes". 

I, too, seem to have propensity for lung ailments, but of course my own smoking didn't help!
ilinda, yes absolutely the cigarette paper ingredients must have got worse over the past decades - and also probably the pesticide population...
I could be wrong about the higher number of African american kids getting asthma. We do know that in the cities people are exposed to more germs, more things like cockroaches, which are a definite problem for a lot of people. When i was just a young teen I did a little research and sound that yes, a lot of the LA smog was caused by airplanes as well as cars. In the big cities some of the urban poorer areas are near airports. Forgive any inadvertent generalities making here. At any rate the pollutants and the GMOs have certainly not helped the asthma problem and it can lead to COPD, with or without emphysema.
years ago, perhaps 2005 I sat up all night following one lead after another and it lead to two Japanese researchers who found that when the agribusinesses splice together things like bacteria DNA and tomatoes, or rat skin and tomatoes or bug stuff and fruits and veges some people get a really strong immune response to this. This stuff never did belong in their food!! in an unfortunate percentage of the population, the GMO messed-with food causes a KILLER T CELL reaction which is so strong it can trigger a life-threatening attack.
All that said about modern causes, from literature and ancient writings it appears asthma has been on this planet a long time. perhaps some of us are not so well adapted to life on this planet, who knows. I really don't.
Lots to learn.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 18, 2019, 12:08:11 AM
There are various articles on asthma. I wanted to narrow it down to America, and more recent studies...
This particular study compares the rate of asthma in African American children and white American children.  Latest data used is from 2019.

ilinda, it looks like this study supports the idea of more asthma among African american kids.  About 13.4 percent of African-American children have asthma, compared to about 7.4 percent of white children with asthma.

One thing we probably could not know from the study is, about the genetic differences. One difference in the prevalence of asthma in African American kids is the situation (which may be improving, not sure) of health care, better education on asthma, while indoor air pollution and environmental pollution have surely not got better for a lot of people. Bye the way, side note Unfortunately now, Latino central valley farm workers getting really sick from the drought conditions and soil diseases. People of all ages, hitting the men first...Something to bear in mind in possible cataclysmic conditions to have proper covering for the mouth in the wind and dirt... We need to somehow keep the little ones out of the blowing wind and dust and dirt and smoke...

Below, I have put some excerpts, some paragraphs, some sentences:
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https://www.aafa.org/asthma-facts/

Asthma Facts and Figures

How Many People Die from Asthma?
Each day, ten Americans die from asthma, and in 2017, 3,564 people died from asthma. Many of these deaths are avoidable with proper treatment and care.
Adults are four times more likely to die from asthma than children.
Women are more likely to die from asthma than men and boys are more likely than girls.
African-Americans are three times more likely to die from asthma.

What Ethnic Groups Have Higher Asthma Rates?
See AAFA’s groundbreaking research report on Disparities in Asthma Care. It was published with the National Pharmaceutical Council.
Racial/ethnic differences in asthma frequency, illness and death are highly connected with poverty, city air quality, indoor allergens, not enough patient education and poor health care.
The rate of asthma and the prevalence of asthma episodes is highest among Puerto Ricans compared to all ethnic groups.
African-American children have the highest prevalence of asthma.
African-Americans in the U.S. die from asthma at a higher rate than people of other races or ethnicities.4
African-Americans are three times more likely to die from asthma, especially African-American women, than any other group.
African-Americans are three times more likely to stay in the hospital from asthma.
About 13.4 percent of African-American children have asthma, compared to about 7.4 percent of white children with asthma.

Do Men or Women Have Higher Rates of Asthma?​
9.8 percent of women aged 18 years or older have asthma, compared to 5.4 percent of men.4
Women are more likely to die from asthma than men.
19 million adults 18 years and older currently have asthma.
An average of 1 out of every 12 school-aged children has asthma.
3.4 percent of children with asthma are more likely to use a hospital emergency room.
Boys are more likely to have asthma than girls. But women are more likely to have asthma than men.
Adults are nearly four times more likely than children to die from asthma.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 18, 2019, 12:16:41 AM
Posting here about asthma partly because it is a known fact now that children who get multiple respiratory infections as a child are more likely to develop adult-onset asthma. I did have lots of respiratory infections, almost perishing from pneumonia and wrong drug, sulfa before I was one year old. I do have that, adult-onset asthma. I did not have childhood asthma. In some unfortunate people the asthma progresses on to COPD. This may be partly chronic bronchitis or it may be partly emphysema. Another factor is maternal smoking, another one is childhood exposure to cigarette smoking. My parents smoked in the house until I was eight years old. The cigarettes were probably not as bad in those distant days.

Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 18, 2019, 12:27:13 AM
This article discusses  childhood factors such as pneumonia, leading to lessened lung function as an adult, asthma, and COPD. It also touches on ethnicity. I will put the ethnicity part in the next post. Excerpts below on Childhood Disadvantage factors:

https://journal.copdfoundation.org/jcopdf/id/1117/Evaluation-of-Individuals-at-Risk-for-COPD-Beyond-the-Scope-of-the-Global-Initiative-for-Chronic-Obstructive-Lung-Disease

Childhood Disadvantage Factors
"Normal lung growth is closely related to processes occurring during gestation, childhood and adolescence.53-55 Barker et al showed that deaths from COPD in adulthood are associated with low weight at birth and at the first year because of alterations of lung development. Infections such as bronchitis, pneumonia and whooping cough in childhood further reduce lung function in adulthood.

One of the most important studies in this regard is from Svanes et al which coined the term childhood disadvantage factors (CDF) and include parental asthma, maternal asthma, childhood asthma, severe respiratory infections before the age of 5 and maternal smoking. Comparing the FEV1 attained in adulthood of individuals who showed no CDF against those who had one or more CDFs, it was noted that the latter reached an average FEV1 -95 ml (men) and -60 ml (women). When comparing those who had 3 CDFs, attained FEV1 was -274 ml (men) and -208 ml (women). Furthermore, it was observed that the presence of CDF correlated with greater decline in FEV1 and higher incidence of COPD."


Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 18, 2019, 12:27:36 AM
https://journal.copdfoundation.org/jcopdf/id/1117/Evaluation-of-Individuals-at-Risk-for-COPD-Beyond-the-Scope-of-the-Global-Initiative-for-Chronic-Obstructive-Lung-Disease

"...it is not surprising that race and ethnicity play an equally important role. This was demonstrated by the COPD Genetic Epidemiology (COPDGene) study where 42% of African-Americans developed early (<55 years) and severe COPD (FEV1 <50% predictive) compared with 14% of non-Hispanic whites. In a cohort of smokers and former smokers of New Mexico it was found that Hispanic ethnicity and those with Native American ancestors had a lower risk of developing COPD.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 18, 2019, 12:36:26 AM
I liberally consumed coconut cream today, shared with me by my daughter.
I put in my coffee.
Mixed it with my nonfat yogurt. 
Had a sweet tooth late, so I mixed the coconut cream with some chocolate syrup.
I am breathing better and I am thinking this is part of the reason why.
Also on some really powerful steroid for a few days more, since my COPD has not really been well under control for months now.
I know that is partly why too. The steroid. But I do sense the benefits from the coconut cream. It has guar gum in it but doesn't seem to harm me. Guar is from a bean. It is used as a medicine sometimes to help lower the blood pressure. Coconut Cream. I imagine there are several brands of it. Screen shot here of the brand my daughter gave me, Native Forest, Organic.  I had posted some things about coconut helping COPD etc. in some other Topic...  I am just guessing that there is some fat and nutrient I have been totally missing, which I need which is in the coconut cream.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: R.R. Book on June 18, 2019, 09:04:37 AM
Barb, I hope your breathing eases soon. 

Have you thought about a change in environment, or maybe a move would seem impossible right now?
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 18, 2019, 11:00:39 AM
Barb, I hope your breathing eases soon. 

Have you thought about a change in environment, or maybe a move would seem impossible right now?

It is better today... it is not like crisis mode but it is not well under control, normally I am not uncomfortable but get the spasmodic coughing and taking lots of meds. today getting better...
Not possible to move.. yet
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on June 18, 2019, 01:21:58 PM
Barb, I hope your breathing eases soon. 

Have you thought about a change in environment, or maybe a move would seem impossible right now?

It is better today... it is not like crisis mode but it is not well under control, normally I am not uncomfortable but get the spasmodic coughing and taking lots of meds. today getting better...
Not possible to move.. yet
Your many posts are well received here and hopefully I can reread them several times.  We do have a lot in common when it comes to pumonary issues.

A few questions:
1) how well hydrated are you on a given day?  Do you drink one large glass of water upon arising every morning, just to start the day?
2) have you ever had an ultrasound of your heart to determine if you have a defective aortic valve?  (Because the aortic valve is the last stop the dirty, CO2-filled blood makes before it hits the lungs, a defective aortic valve might mean less effective "CO2 scrubbing", and poorly oxygenated blood can lead to coughing, and possibly eventually COPD;
3)  In a job interview one time, the doctor was researching COPD, partial pressures of O2:CO2, etc., and he told me that COPD patients don't have trouble getting oxygen in, but they do have trouble getting CO2 out.  Maybe this is why the intense coughing sometimes--trying very hard to expel the excess CO2;
4)  when you are having an asthma attack (I too have had many), did you learn how to hum (which seems to help defer the cough reflex)?  (For some reason during one serious asthma attack, I began humming nursery rhymes/tunes such as "Here Comes Peter Cottontail..." and it really calmed down my bronchioles.  Years later, I read in some esoteric article about how it has been discovered that humming can be helpful in preventing or stopping asthma.  I've learned since then that frequency is important, so maybe more research is needed to learn best humming frequencies;
5) one doctor told me once that just the mere act of coughing sets up inflammation, so if there's no tickle it's not productive, suppressing some of the coughing might also be helpful.
5)  Cordyceps is one mushroom that helps oxygenate the blood because it seems to stimulate red blood cell production.
6)  diagnosing COPD should not be done during a respiratory infection, as the diagnosis may not be sound;
7) breating mint helps open the airways, so if you have any peppermint or spearmint growing in the yard, eat a leaf or two whenever you feel like it.
As a side note, my dad coughed, it seems, his entire life, as I don't remember his not coughing.  As he grew older, the coughing grew worse, and he developed COPD.  All these years I assumed it was his lungs t hat were defective, but in later years realized it may very well have been that he had a defective aortic valve, and thus never had well-oxygenated blood. (He did smoke for a while, and did sometimes work in dirty factories.)

Hope I didn't come off sounding preachy, but just trying to share a few of the tidbits I've learned over the years.  Here's sending you some high-energy oxygen to displace any CO2 not needed, and wishing you a wonderful time reading and learning and sharing.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on June 20, 2019, 02:15:57 PM
One more thing that is important in breathing anomalies, and that is talking.  Yes, talking.  It is amazing how quickly just saying a few words can cause a rapid drop in blood oxygen level!  I saw it with my own eyes.

In 2014 hubby took me to an ER for respiratory illness that seemed never to end and which turned out to be pneumonia.  While in the ER, one of the things they tested was blood oxygen level, with the use of a small device that is clamped onto one finger, which within seconds registers your blood oxygen level.  While the device was there, and results were displayed, I said a few words and was shocked to see how quickly my oxygen level dropped.  It was dramatic and fast!  Still in shock.

So since that  time if I even think I have the beginning of a respiratory infection, no matter how mild, I never talk on the phone and remind hubby I'm not going to talk much till feeling better.  After thinking about the connection, I recalled several incidents in the past where I had a respiratory infection and either gave a talk somewhere, or talked on the phone, and in each instance, an asthma attack followed.  No talking is a good rule when in respiratory distress.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 20, 2019, 11:01:06 PM
One more thing that is important in breathing anomalies, and that is talking.  Yes, talking.  It is amazing how quickly just saying a few words can cause a rapid drop in blood oxygen level!  I saw it with my own eyes.

In 2014 hubby took me to an ER for respiratory illness that seemed never to end and which turned out to be pneumonia.  While in the ER, one of the things they tested was blood oxygen level, with the use of a small device that is clamped onto one finger, which within seconds registers your blood oxygen level.  While the device was there, and results were displayed, I said a few words and was shocked to see how quickly my oxygen level dropped.  It was dramatic and fast!  Still in shock.

So since that  time if I even think I have the beginning of a respiratory infection, no matter how mild, I never talk on the phone and remind hubby I'm not going to talk much till feeling better.  After thinking about the connection, I recalled several incidents in the past where I had a respiratory infection and either gave a talk somewhere, or talked on the phone, and in each instance, an asthma attack followed.  No talking is a good rule when in respiratory distress.

ilinda that is a good rule to know and follow...
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 20, 2019, 11:02:10 PM
Barb, I hope your breathing eases soon. 

Have you thought about a change in environment, or maybe a move would seem impossible right now?

It is better today... it is not like crisis mode but it is not well under control, normally I am not uncomfortable but get the spasmodic coughing and taking lots of meds. today getting better...
Not possible to move.. yet
Your many posts are well received here and hopefully I can reread them several times.  We do have a lot in common when it comes to pumonary issues.

A few questions:
1) how well hydrated are you on a given day?  Do you drink one large glass of water upon arising every morning, just to start the day?
2) have you ever had an ultrasound of your heart to determine if you have a defective aortic valve?  (Because the aortic valve is the last stop the dirty, CO2-filled blood makes before it hits the lungs, a defective aortic valve might mean less effective "CO2 scrubbing", and poorly oxygenated blood can lead to coughing, and possibly eventually COPD;
3)  In a job interview one time, the doctor was researching COPD, partial pressures of O2:CO2, etc., and he told me that COPD patients don't have trouble getting oxygen in, but they do have trouble getting CO2 out.  Maybe this is why the intense coughing sometimes--trying very hard to expel the excess CO2;
4)  when you are having an asthma attack (I too have had many), did you learn how to hum (which seems to help defer the cough reflex)?  (For some reason during one serious asthma attack, I began humming nursery rhymes/tunes such as "Here Comes Peter Cottontail..." and it really calmed down my bronchioles.  Years later, I read in some esoteric article about how it has been discovered that humming can be helpful in preventing or stopping asthma.  I've learned since then that frequency is important, so maybe more research is needed to learn best humming frequencies;
5) one doctor told me once that just the mere act of coughing sets up inflammation, so if there's no tickle it's not productive, suppressing some of the coughing might also be helpful.
5)  Cordyceps is one mushroom that helps oxygenate the blood because it seems to stimulate red blood cell production.
6)  diagnosing COPD should not be done during a respiratory infection, as the diagnosis may not be sound;
7) breating mint helps open the airways, so if you have any peppermint or spearmint growing in the yard, eat a leaf or two whenever you feel like it.
As a side note, my dad coughed, it seems, his entire life, as I don't remember his not coughing.  As he grew older, the coughing grew worse, and he developed COPD.  All these years I assumed it was his lungs t hat were defective, but in later years realized it may very well have been that he had a defective aortic valve, and thus never had well-oxygenated blood. (He did smoke for a while, and did sometimes work in dirty factories.)

Hope I didn't come off sounding preachy, but just trying to share a few of the tidbits I've learned over the years.  Here's sending you some high-energy oxygen to displace any CO2 not needed, and wishing you a wonderful time reading and learning and sharing.

ilinda, great Reply! I will answer these one by one...
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 21, 2019, 12:14:33 AM
Barb, I hope your breathing eases soon. 

Have you thought about a change in environment, or maybe a move would seem impossible right now?

It is better today... it is not like crisis mode but it is not well under control, normally I am not uncomfortable but get the spasmodic coughing and taking lots of meds. today getting better...
Not possible to move.. yet
Your many posts are well received here and hopefully I can reread them several times.  We do have a lot in common when it comes to pulmonary issues.

A few questions:
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1 how well hydrated are you on a given day?  Do you drink one large glass of water upon arising every morning, just to start the day?
ANSWER: I consider myself well- hydrated, most of the time. I do start the day with a lot of water and have for years. I sleep with water by my bed. If I have been sick. I need to be able to grab the water if my throat sticks together or I am wheezing. It doesn't happen all the time but the water helps me wash it out, had some episodes of my throat sticking together; immediate water and coughing out followed by the spray is needed when this happens.

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2 have you ever had an ultrasound of your heart to determine if you have a defective aortic valve?  (Because the aortic valve is the last stop the dirty, CO2-filled blood makes before it hits the lungs, a defective aortic valve might mean less effective "CO2 scrubbing", and poorly oxygenated blood can lead to coughing, and possibly eventually COPD;

 
ANSWER:
I have had extensive heart screening a couple of times, pre surgery screening was one reason for that. All they found was a benign heart murmur. Even though I had heart palpitations at times. The last screening was a few years ago though. One doc told me verbally I have PAT regardless of what any test might say etc. She didn't do the halter monitor she just knew. I learned how to do a manipulation from an old ER technician, aged 80 who was a former doctor, will post it sometime. It is like an isometric exercise where you constrict the chest forward. It slows the heart if the rhythm seems to go off. Also on the rare occasion it happens, I stroke the carotid artery on the neck, applying gentle pressure. So I have never passed out from it. When I sometimes had to take long trips by myself I would be sure to bring orange juice, water and Coenzyme Q10 capsules. If I felt weird in anyway and got that certain feeling of doom, I put the Coenzyme Q10 under my tongue and had a few ounces of orange juice, water. Note: Tests have shown that when a person is having an asthma attack their blood is low in both salt and sugar. This may not be the same for everyone. Keeping OJ with me when out and about seems a good idea. A couple times, I remembered that, so I have taken warm purified water and putting some sea salt and sugar or honey in it and stirring. I did experience relief. Then I found having Gatorade around helps too, I had forgot about that, though.
 
Heart: I will look more into the possiblity of a valve problem.
Regardless of them not finding PAT on my halter monitor test I know my heart speeds up too much at times and is irregular. Normally it is not a situation, I am not afraid of it. Note since figuring out I have FMF and starting on the Colchicine I have less weird episodes, that is inflammation and kidneys or liver not working up to normal... that is complicated... I did post about it elsewhere. At any rate it keeps a lot of bad symptoms away...but this past year the COPD got worse. COPD can happen as a result of the FMF.


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3)  In a job interview one time, the doctor was researching COPD, partial pressures of O2:CO2, etc., and he told me that COPD patients don't have trouble getting oxygen in, but they do have trouble getting CO2 out.  Maybe this is why the intense coughing sometimes--trying very hard to expel the excess CO2;
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I was diagnosed with COPD around 1998, but it wasn't until the middle of the night in 2005 that the ER doc told me I do have emphysema with that. In emphysema, yes the lungs have a hard time pushing the air out. Usually I can describe this as under well control with medicines. My O2 levels are often pretty good even if I have been in distress, but at times I feel they may have gone dangerously low.
ilinda I think I should get a O2 gadget. It is possible that at times my C02 goes too high and I would like to know that. Thanks for the idea.
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4)  when you are having an asthma attack (I too have had many), did you learn how to hum (which seems to help defer the cough reflex)?  (For some reason during one serious asthma attack, I began humming nursery rhymes/tunes such as "Here Comes Peter Cottontail..." and it really calmed down my bronchioles.  Years later, I read in some esoteric article about how it has been discovered that humming can be helpful in preventing or stopping asthma.  I've learned since then that frequency is important, so maybe more research is needed to learn best humming frequencies;

ANSWER:
No I never thought about humming. That is miraculous that you sort of instinctively began humming.


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5) one doctor told me once that just the mere act of coughing sets up inflammation, so if there's no tickle it's not productive, suppressing some of the coughing might also be helpful.
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ANSWER: Although I do take a mucus reliever to bring up mucus I also have a mild cough suppressant which I take. On the occasions where I cough badly, I cannot help that, it is because I have to clear my airways, something needs to come up so there is room to breath. This is why I ended up on the Prednisone, it is to ease the inflammation, big improvement after one week but still the spasmodic coughing a few times per day.
 

5)  Cordyceps is one mushroom that helps oxygenate the blood because it seems to stimulate red blood cell production.

ANSWER: I have not tried this, sounds good. Most of the time my hemoglobin is very good, but I have had anemia a few times in my life. I just dose myself up with Blackstrap but I think the mushroom is a good idea.

6)  diagnosing COPD should not be done during a respiratory infection, as the diagnosis may not be sound;
ANSWER:
When I got diagnosed the intern did a very careful test measuring my breath, pulse. He did the diagnosis. Cannot remember the name of the test.


7) breathing mint helps open the airways, so if you have any peppermint or spearmint growing in the yard, eat a leaf or two whenever you feel like it.
As a side note, my dad coughed, it seems, his entire life, as I don't remember his not coughing.  As he grew older, the coughing grew worse, and he developed COPD.  All these years I assumed it was his lungs that were defective, but in later years realized it may very well have been that he had a defective aortic valve, and thus never had well-oxygenated blood. (He did smoke for a while, and did sometimes work in dirty factories.)


ilinda, thanks for sharing that about your dear Father. You do know for sure the connection between his chronic coughing and the aortic valve problem. Sad, yet it gives insight ... What you posted will surely help someone. I had not been aware of that.

I will try to eat the mint more. As a child I used to go outside and find it growing wild near the leaking hose connection and eat it. That is one of those foods I used to pay more attention to. A bit of mint and parley were part of a lot of meals. mint teas was a regular for me. Natural chlorophyll liquid from the health food store, too. My old German Naturopath told me to have the parsley and mint, raw with meals and to take the liquid chlorophyll. In those days although I had some bad respiratory infections I did not get asthma only rarely was not on medications regularly. I would start to get an attack then take some Yerba Santa tea and it stopped. In those days I was not stuck on a bunch of medicines, but things can change for the worse in fifty years.

 

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Hope I didn't come off sounding preachy, but just trying to share a few of the tidbits I've learned over the years.  Here's sending you some high-energy oxygen to displace any CO2 not needed, and wishing you a wonderful time reading and learning and sharing.

ANSWER: ilinda thanks! your Reply was wonderful and does give me some things to think about and add to my regime. I am sorry to hear about your trials too... I didn't know until you shared that...

Main thing I would suggest is be on the watch for molds and lots of pollutants, natural though they may be in the farm area...

Some people also get really sick from something called NTM. Non Tuberculosis Mycobacteria, found in soil and water. This is one thing I hope to get tested for in my upcoming pulmonology screenings. That is a subject for a whole other post.  NOTE: A lot of my current, worse symptoms started in the spring, when we had a stalled construction project in our back yard.
Large area of dusty dirt, right up to the back patio,. It will be gone in the next few weeks as work resumes and cement covers that area. Meanwhile, (I) am the one who frequently goes to the patio door and lets the pets in and out. Now we have a pet door but some of them need a little help and I need to make sure they get in and eat. I am also the one who sweeps up that area.  The dusty dirt gets all into the living room. The symptoms of NTM are similar to tuberculosis. Tuberculosis is also caused by a mycobacteria.

Well bottom line, city or country things like dirt, mold, contaminated water chemicals dumped into the bay, none of this helps the breathing. It sometimes cost some big bucks trying to examine the environment to find a cause of the problem too, and not always easy to go to a specialist and also get them to run the proper test. To the best of my knowledge this test is: Interferon-gamma (IFN-γ) release assays (IGRAs)


Differentiation between NTM infection and tuberculosis (TB) can be difficult. For more than a century, the Tuberculin skin test (TST or Mantoux) has been used for detecting latent tuberculosis infection (LTBI) and sometimes as an additional diagnostic tool for active TB. The TST suffers from suboptimal sensitivity and it is unreliable in distinguishing Mycobacterium tuberculosis (MTB) infection from infection with NTM and previous BCG-vaccination [12].

Immunodiagnostic tests such as the Interferon-gamma (IFN-γ) release assays (IGRAs) are more specific and are based on the T-cell mediated IFN-γ release after stimulation
with specific MTB antigens.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3976367/


My Note: COPD patients who develop bronchiestasis often do develop NTM. Note there are more recent articles than this..Tuck this away for reference, too:  

https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2019.199.1_MeetingAbstracts.A1035
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 21, 2019, 12:28:04 AM
PS people who do NOT have COPD and do NOT have bronchiestasis from COPD can get and do get NTM Non tuberculosis Mycobacteria.
It is an increasingly common worldwide health problem.
Vinegar is one cheap thing and gets rid of the bacteria in spaces, clothing. some world organization of health or NIH was studying that on how to help third world people as well. It was a relief to find the vinegar really helped. Also vinegar is safe and so much less corrosive to the sick person's environment than bleach.

It is a under-diagnosed but increasingly common problem. The vinegar helps kill the Tuberculosis Mycobacteria and the Non Tuberculosis Mycobacteria. I don't have data yet on whether internal, drinking of vinegar makes a difference... Maybe ...

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140225101501.htm

Vinegar kills tuberculosis, other mycobacteria
Date:
February 25, 2014
Source:
American Society for Microbiology
Summary:
The active ingredient in vinegar, acetic acid, can effectively kill mycobacteria, even highly drug-resistant Mycobacterium tuberculosis, an international team of researchers reports. It is possible that acetic acid could therefore be used as an inexpensive and non-toxic disinfectant against drug-resistant tuberculosis (TB) bacteria as well as other stubborn, disinfectant-resistant mycobacteria. Research continues into its potential uses, from sterilizing medical equipment to being used as a common disinfectant.
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The active ingredient in vinegar, acetic acid, can effectively kill mycobacteria, even highly drug-resistant Mycobacterium tuberculosis, an international team of researchers from Venezuela, France, and the US reports in mBio®, the online open-access journal of the American Society for Microbiology.

Acetic acid might be used as an inexpensive and non-toxic disinfectant against drug-resistant tuberculosis (TB) bacteria as well as other stubborn, disinfectant-resistant mycobacteria.

Work with drug-resistant tuberculosis bacteria carries serious biohazard risks. Chlorine bleach is often used to disinfect TB cultures and clinical samples, but bleach is toxic and corrosive. Other effective commercial disinfectants can be too expensive for TB labs in the resource-poor countries where the majority of TB occurs.

"Mycobacteria are known to cause tuberculosis and leprosy, but non-TB mycobacteria are common in the environment, even in tap water, and are resistant to commonly used disinfectants. When they contaminate the sites of surgery or cosmetic procedures, they cause serious infections. Innately resistant to most antibiotics, they require months of therapy and can leave deforming scars." says Howard Takiff, senior author on the study and head of the Laboratory of Molecular Genetics at the Venezuelan Institute of Scientific Investigation (IVIC) in Caracas.

"Many cosmetic procedures are performed outside of hospital settings in developing countries, where effective disinfectants are not available." Takiff says, "These bacteria are emerging pathogens. How do you get rid of them?"

While investigating the ability of non-TB mycobacteria to resist disinfectants and antibiotics, Takiff's postdoctoral fellow, Claudia Cortesia stumbled upon vinegar's ability to kill mycobacteria. Testing a drug that needed to be dissolved in acetic acid, Cortesia found that the control, with acetic acid alone, killed the mycobacteria she wanted to study.

"After Claudia's initial observation, we tested for the minimal concentrations and exposure times that would kill different mycobacteria," says Takiff. Since the Venezuelan lab does not work with clinical TB, collaborators Catherine Vilchèze and William Jacobs, Jr. at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York tested TB strains and found that exposure to a 6% solution of acetic acid for 30 minutes effectively kills tuberculosis, even strains resistant to almost all antibiotics.

Said another way, exposure to 6% acetic acid, just slightly more concentrated than supermarket vinegar, for 30 minutes, reduced the numbers of TB mycobacteria from around 100 million to undetectable levels.

During a sabbatical in Laurent Kremer's laboratory at the University of Montpellier 2 in France, Takiff tested how effective acetic acid was against M. abscessus, one of the most resistant and pathogenic of the non-TB mycobacteria.

M. abscessus required exposure to a stronger 10% acetic acid solution for 30 minutes to be effectively eliminated. The team also tested the activity under biologically 'dirty' conditions similar to those encountered in clinical situations, by adding albumin protein and red blood cells to the acetic acid and found it was still effective.

"There is a real need for less toxic and less expensive disinfectants that can eliminate TB and non-TB mycobacteria, especially in resource-poor countries," says Takiff. He notes that even a 25% solution of acetic acid is only a minor irritant and around US$100 can buy enough acetic acid to disinfect up to 20 liters of TB cultures or clinical samples.

"For now this is simply an interesting observation. Vinegar has been used for thousands of years as a common disinfectant and we merely extended studies from the early 20th century on acetic acid," concludes Takiff. "Whether it could be useful in the clinic or mycobacteriology labs for sterilizing medical equipment or disinfecting cultures or clinical specimens remains to be determined."

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Journal Reference:

C. Cortesia, C. Vilcheze, A. Bernut, W. Contreras, K. Gomez, J. de Waard, W. R. Jacobs, L. Kremer, H. Takiff. Acetic Acid, the Active Component of Vinegar, Is an Effective Tuberculocidal Disinfectant. mBio, 2014; 5 (2): e00013-14 DOI: 10.1128/mBio.00013-14
     
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 21, 2019, 12:35:33 AM
ilinda I hope you did not mind the humongous font,  Haha,  ;D
Seemed to help me keep track of the questions and answers better. I hope it helps someone.
Thanks so much for all the ideas.
I edited and re edited and kept adding, it is a long post.

There are foods which I used to consume frequently such as the mint, parsley, mint teas, etc. which you mentioned, which I rarely have any more. I need to do a few simple things to help myself more...
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 21, 2019, 01:06:06 AM
Last note for now, on the NTM: Non tuberculosis Mycobacteria.

NTM is not contagious but it is infectious and the person gets sick from soil or water or both.
The water can be hot tubs, swimming pools, gyms shower areas.
I even read that mycobacteria can breed in water filters. I have to look into that, we have one.
 
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 21, 2019, 12:05:22 PM
RE NTM bacteria from water, I do not know if it is spread in rural sources, like animal watering troughs, irrigation, probably, since it is a worldwide health problem
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 21, 2019, 12:12:40 PM
Again, I do recommend a person with any breathing difficulty have 2-3 air filters in their home, city or country.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on June 21, 2019, 08:47:43 PM
RE NTM bacteria from water, I do not know if it is spread in rural sources, like animal watering troughs, irrigation, probably, since it is a worldwide health problem
Wow, it's a worldwide problem, I some of us have never heard of it!  Thanks for educating.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on June 21, 2019, 08:54:39 PM
ilinda I hope you did not mind the humongous font,  Haha,  ;D
Seemed to help me keep track of the questions and answers better. I hope it helps someone.
Thanks so much for all the ideas.
I edited and re edited and kept adding, it is a long post.

There are foods which I used to consume frequently such as the mint, parsley, mint teas, etc. which you mentioned, which I rarely have any more. I need to do a few simple things to help myself more...
It looks like you're doing all the right things (maybe getting back to mint as well) and when that nearby construction is finished, maybe you can get back to your more normal situation. 

One BTW relates to the herb mullein.  That is one herb that asthmatics and especially COPD patients might want around.  It is a great expectorant, and it is so good at bringing up mucous from the lungs, I would suggest nobody take it unless they are coughing up copious lung mucous.  It is made into a decoction (boiled for 30 minutes) and then drunk as a tea.  Usually all it takes is one cup and you will soon be getting rid of what has settled in the lung.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 21, 2019, 09:37:48 PM
RE NTM bacteria from water, I do not know if it is spread in rural sources, like animal watering troughs, irrigation, probably, since it is a worldwide health problem
Wow, it's a worldwide problem, I some of us have never heard of it!  Thanks for educating.

ilinda I had never heard of NTM or mycobacteria until a few weeks ago. I was coughing so much and do get a bit of rust colored or pinkish, on and off...and that goes back years. Lung cancer had already been ruled out (I had contrast dye CT scans etc.)
So recently, I began to think about testing for TB.

Was googling and that is when I discovered that there is another condition similar to TB called Non Tuberculosis Mycobacteria (infection) also found out that the bacteria which causes tuberculosis is also a mycobacteria.

I basically have had all the symptoms of NTM for awhile now.
Now that I am past the 10th day on the Prednisone (a strong med) symptoms are falling away (or masked) but I still want to test for NTM. I do feel I probably have had this a couple-three times before.
It is an under-diagnosed and common infectious disease.
Here in this article, they discuss risks, but I'd bet that people of all ages and types get this.

But first, this is the latest article I found so far and discusses the fact that there is supposed to be a new and improved "assay" test for NTM, the sample for which would be sputum or from a bronchoscopy. 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30711153

https://www.lung.org/lung-health-and-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/nontuberculosis-mycobacteria/ntm-symptoms-causes-risks.html

What Are Risk Factors for NTM Lung Disease?
•   Age: NTM lung disease is more common in older people.
•   Lung disease: Many people with NTM lung disease have another underlying lung problem like COPD, bronchiectasis, or lung damage due to previous infections such as tuberculosis.
•   Slender Caucasian women: Some women appear to have an increased risk of developing NTM disease. These women share physical features like being tall and slender, having a curved spine, abnormalities of the breastbone, and mitral valve prolapse.
•   Weak immune system: Illnesses that affect the immune system, like Sjogren’s disease and rheumatoid arthritis, may increase the risk of NTM infection. Also, certain drugs that can weaken the immune system, such as prednisone and other steroids, can increase the risk of NTM infection.
•   Esophageal disorders: Acid reflux (GERD) and other disorders of the esophagus can increase the risk of NTM lung disease due to spillage of gastric contents into the lung.
•   Environment: Exposure to NTM in our environment can result in infection. High-risk sources include indoor hot tubs and pools and exposure to soil.
When to See Your Doctor
If you have a persistent cough, particularly if you also have fatigue, night sweats, shortness of breath or weight loss, you should see your doctor immediately. If your primary care provider cannot help your chronic cough, you might need to see a lung specialist.
Diagnosing and Treating NTM Pulmonary Disease
Diagnosis of NTM lung disease is often delayed because the symptoms are similar to other lung diseases like bronchiectasis, COPD or bronchitis. However, once NTM infection is suspected, diagnosis is not difficult. When a specimen is sent to the lab, it can easily be identified whether or not the person has NTM and what species is causing the disease. This will influence the type of treatment you receive.

•   Learn about Nontuberculous Mycobacteria (NTM) (American Lung Association)
•   Nontuberculous Mycobacteria (NTM) (National Jewish Health)


Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2019, 12:04:10 AM
Yowbarb Note: While it is very important to know if one has asthma, COPD, emphysema whatever condition and while it is very important to stay safe by properly managing these conditions, we must not forget that healing is often in our own hands our own choices. I know a lot of my posts do not sound like that, because when one is in a flare up it is dangerous and the focus is on meds, etc. because one has to be careful. But underlying all my posts is the belief we all share, there are other methods and we need to do something other than standard medicine and actually try to get better...

SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF is the name of this Board, after all.   ;D     ;D      ;D

Posting here something I randomly found, part of Chinese medicine, I am not supposed to plug specific products or whatever but here goes. I just found this online a couple minutes ago. Videos, testimonials on the page, photos of the patients and practitioners, fascinating! :) There is a search link to find a practitioner of the Wei method in your area., lots of pics of the practitioners and where they are.
I hope this helps someone...
Many Blessings.

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Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2019, 12:06:52 AM
note from Yowbarb:
A bit of info regarding the Wei Institute, finding out it is a method used all over the US and Internationally.
...

Our Approach
Overview

At Wei Institute, we employ Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) and a holistic approach to treat chronic lung diseases.

We aim to enhance the biological activities associated with lung structure regeneration and reduce the activities associated with elastin degradation to assist with lung damage repair and the reversal of lung tissue degeneration process.

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Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2019, 12:10:45 AM
Oriental medicine like Chinese Medicine and Ayurvedic medicine
We have to keep trying...

These are things to look into, for sure...
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: R.R. Book on June 22, 2019, 06:34:39 AM
ilinda I hope you did not mind the humongous font,  Haha,  ;D
Seemed to help me keep track of the questions and answers better. I hope it helps someone.
Thanks so much for all the ideas.
I edited and re edited and kept adding, it is a long post.

There are foods which I used to consume frequently such as the mint, parsley, mint teas, etc. which you mentioned, which I rarely have any more. I need to do a few simple things to help myself more...
It looks like you're doing all the right things (maybe getting back to mint as well) and when that nearby construction is finished, maybe you can get back to your more normal situation. 

One BTW relates to the herb mullein.  That is one herb that asthmatics and especially COPD patients might want around.  It is a great expectorant, and it is so good at bringing up mucous from the lungs, I would suggest nobody take it unless they are coughing up copious lung mucous.  It is made into a decoction (boiled for 30 minutes) and then drunk as a tea.  Usually all it takes is one cup and you will soon be getting rid of what has settled in the lung.

Mullein is also known as verbascum, and is one of the loveliest flowers in the garden, though it has trouble in our wet climate here.  Aren't the leaves the part used as an expectorant?

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Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2019, 01:05:17 PM
R.R. thanks for your post, I had forgot to look into the Mullein,
which ilinda had posted about...
This article mentions, the Creek Indians made a decoction of the roots for cough...
A couple of excerpts are copied below. Mullein has other uses, if there is not a topic on Mullein yet, we will start one...

https://www.motherearthliving.com/plant-profile/herb-to-know-mullein-verbascum-thapsus

Traditional and Modern Uses
Mullein tea is a traditional treatment for respiratory problems, such as chest colds, bronchitis and asthma. Mullein leaf tea is slightly bitter; a tea of the flowers is sweeter. Both the leaves and flowers contain mucilage, which is soothing to irritated membranes, and saponins, which make coughs more productive. Research has shown that the herb has strong anti-inflammatory activity, and lab studies suggest that mullein flower infusions have antiviral properties, as well.

Many of mullein’s traditional medicinal uses were similar throughout the Old and New World, but whether European settlers learned to use the herb from Native Americans or vice versa is open to debate. Besides using mullein leaf and flower teas to treat respiratory problems, some Native Americans also used the plant’s roots. The Creek Indians drank a decoction of the roots for coughs; other tribes smoked the roots or dried leaves to treat asthma.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2019, 01:06:48 PM
ilinda I hope you did not mind the humongous font,  Haha,  ;D
Seemed to help me keep track of the questions and answers better. I hope it helps someone.
Thanks so much for all the ideas.
I edited and re edited and kept adding, it is a long post.

There are foods which I used to consume frequently such as the mint, parsley, mint teas, etc. which you mentioned, which I rarely have any more. I need to do a few simple things to help myself more...
It looks like you're doing all the right things (maybe getting back to mint as well) and when that nearby construction is finished, maybe you can get back to your more normal situation. 

One BTW relates to the herb mullein.  That is one herb that asthmatics and especially COPD patients might want around.  It is a great expectorant, and it is so good at bringing up mucous from the lungs, I would suggest nobody take it unless they are coughing up copious lung mucous.  It is made into a decoction (boiled for 30 minutes) and then drunk as a tea.  Usually all it takes is one cup and you will soon be getting rid of what has settled in the lung.

ilinda, belated reply to this post about Mullein. :)
I am looking into it.
Looking for a good decoction recipe...
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on June 28, 2019, 10:36:02 PM
Just an Update:
Went to a really good, knowledgeable  Pulmonologist today. Only a few who I could go to based upon my insurance. I lucked out, actually I picked one who got good ratings online. He is known for being a good caring doctor.

First time being in the care of a Pulmonologist. diagnosed with COPD in 1998, emphysema about 2007.  (Quit smoking decades earlier) Took the last of my Prednisone, doc ordered lots of tests.
summer is my BEST season and maybe I have turned a corner...
So many people in worse shape than I am. I have retained 75% of lung function, doc told me today.  He said it could be worse...
So far do not need oxygen.  I am grateful that I feel just about normal today...

Guess what, remember I posted, I had wanted to ask the doc to screen me for NTM? Well the doc is an expert on that and routinely screens people for that.  NTM= Non Tuberculosis Mycobacteria. 
          ****One type of mycobacteria causes tuberculosis.
          ****Another mycobacteria causes the non tuberculosis Mycobacterial infection.

Since my coughing is pretty much gone after three rounds of Prednisone in a row (and several in the past few months) i do not know if i have that or not... We will see.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on July 13, 2019, 08:30:00 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-s-toxic-red-tide-stretches-residents-report-health-problems-n905336
As Florida's toxic red tide stretches on, residents report health problems
Doctors in southwest Florida say they've seen an increase in patients complaining of breathing problems.


This is one of many articles about Florida's "Red Tide" and how it can cause breathing problems in FL residents.  Makes one wonder how much of the COPD might be influenced by the Red Tide?
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on July 13, 2019, 09:30:09 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-s-toxic-red-tide-stretches-residents-report-health-problems-n905336
As Florida's toxic red tide stretches on, residents report health problems
Doctors in southwest Florida say they've seen an increase in patients complaining of breathing problems.


This is one of many articles about Florida's "Red Tide" and how it can cause breathing problems in FL residents.  Makes one wonder how much of the COPD might be influenced by the Red Tide?


ilinda, you posted it!
Thank you so much!
- Barb T.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on July 13, 2019, 09:36:42 PM
I only recently heard of SALT THERAPY for breathing. It popped up randomly while on Facebook.
I am not plugging any particular company or product. This is an article that popped up when I was googling about COPD. This place is in Indonesia but there are probably closer places to go to, or systems you buy and use at home, I just don't know yet:
...
http://www.balibetterbreathing.com/what-is-salt-therapy/ 

Salt therapy (Halotherapy) is a scientifically-proven treatment for respiratory conditions. Halotherapy is a natural, effective and safe method of treatment for various disease as well as good remedy for respiratory hygiene and wellness. It improves conditions of the lungs and skin, strengthens the protective functions by means of dry salt aerosol with controlled levels of its concentrations.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPELEOTHERAPY AND HALOTHERAPY
Speleotherapy is a therapeutic method that utilises the unique microclimate of underground salt caves and salt mines to alleviate the symptoms of several respiratory problems and skin conditions.

Halotherapy, otherwise known as Salt Therapy, uses modern technology ( HALOGENERATOR ) to reproduce the therapeutic conditions found in natural salt caves in a modern, spa-like room. Salt Therapy patients sit in comfortable chairs and listen to soothing music, while breathing in superfine particles of salt that cleanse the lungs of bacteria, irritants, and pollution; and reduce inflammation of the respiratory tract.

Halotherapy was invented in 1982 in Russia. Since then, thousands of patients have been successfully treated in Russia, Germany, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Canada, UK, Australia, USA, Ireland, UAE, and Indonesia.

Yet.. only Controlled Halotherapy is effective and safe!

Controlled Halotherapy developped by the Halomed Medical Head, prof. Alina V. Chervinskaya, enables to recreate optimal and safe aerosol parameters for a group of the salt room’ visitors due to the constant monitoring and options of selection and maintaining the optimal level of concentration of dry salt aerosol produced by halogenerators Halomed.

The word halotherapy comes from the Greek, halo, for salt. It is a modern holistic method that mimics the natural microclimate of salt mines.

This is achieved by the use of a special device – a Halogenerator, which grinds salt into a fine powder and then disperses dry salt aerosol into a room. It controls the concentration of aerosol and the size of salt particles.

Link to Halogenerator from Halomed

Halogenerators

Halomed Generator Basing on the many years experience Halomed presents the modern standards of the true effective halogenerators:

Sophisticated Halomed halogenerators for salt rooms use integrated solutions for generating right healthy salt aerosol and control of its quality, concentration and airflows distribution in the salt rooms.
The last generation of Halomed salt aerosol generators relies on hi tech feedback function to provide the necessary level of controlled concentration of dry salt aerosol (DSA) of the highest quality (respirable fraction from 0.5-5 microns) inside salt rooms.

For more than 20 years dry salt aerosol, administered in specially-designed salt (halo) chambers, has been used to treat upper and lower respiratory conditions such as cold and flu, allergy, asthma, bronchitis, cystic fibrosis, sinus infection, sinusitis, rhinitis, hay fever and emphysema.

In addition, the anti-bacterial and anti-inflammatory properties of dry sodium chloride aerosol has been shown to effectively treat ear infections and conditions such as eczema, dermatitis and psoriasis

Halotherapy provides the additional benefit of treatment in controlled conditions. The temperature, humidity and sodium chloride flow are constantly monitored to give optimum effect. The client is able to relax in the Salt Room which offers a spa like atmosphere.

Dry sodium chloride aerosol containing particles of 1-5 microns in size are blown into this room by a halogenerator. In order to treat varying conditions, the rooms are saturated with dry sodium chloride aerosol at a mass concentration varying from 1-15 mg/m3 . Typically asthma treatment involves drugs which include steroids that may have harmful side effects. Salt therapy has no side effects or negative interaction with other medication.

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Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on July 13, 2019, 09:40:31 PM
This article is not advocating salt therapy, claiming not enough data and the salt bothers some people's breathing... i feel it would help me...

https://community.aafa.org/blog/aafa-explains-is-therapy-safe-and-effective-for-asthma
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on July 13, 2019, 09:45:36 PM
https://www.installitdirect.com/learn/salt-therapy-halotherapy/

Halo generator salt room therapy inhalation inspiration halogenerator  EBay
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on September 14, 2019, 11:02:27 PM
Hi All, going to post a couple things quick here, didn't actually know these facts.
Just read that acetominopen is not the greatest for COPD and believe it or not asprin can be a help. Note: aspirin is not for everyone, take care if you have a sensitivity to it or have bleeding ulcers etc. Aspirin does reduce the effectiveness of some meds such as colchicine, perhaps others. But over all if it is OK for you to use, it will reduce the number of the medium level COPD flareups. - Yowbarb

Acetaminophen linked to increased risk of asthma and COPD. Nottingham, UK - Use of acetaminophen (paracetamol) is associated with an increased risk of asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and with decreased lung function, according to findings from a large epidemiological study [ 1 ].May 5, 2005
Acetaminophen and asthma - Medscape

https://www.medscape.com › viewarticle
...
ASPIRIN
Now it appears aspirin may also reduce flare-ups of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). In a study of COPD sufferers, researchers found that aspirin was linked to fewer moderate exacerbations, but not severe bouts, of the lung disease. ... (Low-dose aspirin is generally 81 milligrams.) Mar 4, 2019
Daily Aspirin Might Ease COPD Flare-Ups – WebMD
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on September 14, 2019, 11:38:49 PM
Yowbarb Note: I am not here to promote any particular company. If an article looks like it will help people or a possible regimen looks like it might help with a serious condition, I will post it. This article posts a phone number regarding help with COPD including cellular therapy. This is my personal take on it, it looks good to me... For the record I have adult-onset asthma and was diagnosed with COPD in 1997. In 2006 I was diagnosed with emphysema as part of the COPD, although I had quit smoking a long time earlier, 1987! The doc who gave me that diagnosis in an ER in the middle of the night seemed to think I had brought it on myself but I had long since quit smoking, and I never was a super heavy smoker. Also, he had no way of knowing I  did have some early signs of lung problems like pneumonitis at age 12, once I suddenly could not breathe at all. But it didn't last too long, I did not pass out and I managed to get a breath finally. That totally passed, and for years, I was able to run fast, swim etc. and was on no medicines at all.
(Lots of respiratory infections as a child does lead to COPD and asthma, which is now known.) Nowadays, that fact is more known among medical professionals that childhood factors do affect the development of lung problems. My diagnosis was a gradual process because I wasn't getting the super best of care. I was just using an over the counter spray and couldn't really afford a doctor much, the signs of asthma started in college and interfered with plan to continue competitive track running in college. I got virtually no care for allergies or developing asthma for many years. In a later time period than that, I do appreciate all the practitioners who helped me on the spot, and fast when I was having a sudden crisis. I got shots of epinephrine, Prednisone, breathing treatments in the ER, because it would hit me so suddenly and so hard and I didn't even know I had COPD.  That diagnosis came years later. Like I say I do appreciate the help which kept me alive , even if they were stop-gap measures, I surely appreciate the treatments I received.

For now I am pretty much stuck on prescription medicines but I am all for any nutritional, alternative or new treatments which will work and this is wishing the best to anyone looking for answers.
I have recently vowed to try and get more answers, am getting pulmonology screenings and always trying some nutritional approaches. My pulmonologist is into nutrition too. Just getting started with him. The article mentions some foods really help with lung inflammation and these are some of my favorite foods. I am sure many of you are aware what good foods these are. The article talks about why they are good: Tomatoes, Olive oil, Dark green leafy vegetables such as spinach, kale, and collards: lots of vitamin E. Nuts like almonds and walnuts, Fatty fish like salmon, mackerel, tuna and sardines, Fruits such as strawberries, blueberries, cherries and oranges, Beets
...
[ https://lunginstitute.com/treatment/cellular-therapy-basics/ ]

https://lunginstitute.com/blog/lung-inflammation/

7 Foods that Fight Lung Inflammation

 If you have a lung disease, such as chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or pulmonary fibrosis, you may also experience lung inflammation. Inflammation is part of the body’s immune response. It is a natural response and is needed to help the body heal and keep you healthy. But when it’s out of control it can cause damage. Lung inflammation affects the airways and lung tissue. The inflammation can be acute (short-lasting) or chronic (long-lasting).
So, instead of heading for the pharmacy, the Lung Institute suggests you look at these seven natural remedies that have been known to fight inflammation.
Tomatoes: rich in lycopene, which helps reduce inflammation in the lungs and throughout the rest of the body.
Olive oil: contains alpha-tocopherol, a form of vitamin E linked to better lung function.
Dark green leafy vegetables such as spinach, kale, and collards: lots of vitamin E which is key in protecting the body against inflammatory molecules.
Nuts like almonds and walnuts: packed with antioxidants that can help your body fight off and repair the damage caused by inflammation.
Fatty fish like salmon, mackerel, tuna and sardines: high in omega-3 fatty acids, which can help reduce inflammation.
Fruits such as strawberries, blueberries, cherries and oranges: rich in vitamin C and vitamin B6 helps the lungs transfer oxygen.
Beets: can not only reduce inflammation but may also protect against cancer and heart disease.
If your body can tolerate it, low-fat dairy products are an important source of nutrients. They also contain calcium and vitamin D for bone strength.
The foods listed above are typically items that are part of a good low-fat, less-processed diet. In addition to lowering inflammation, a more natural diet can have noticeable effects on your physical and emotional health.
However, when lifestyle changes fail to improve your quality of life in the way that you may expect, it may be time to consider cellular therapy. Rather than addressing the symptoms of lung disease, cellular therapy may directly affect disease progression and may improve quality of life.
For more information on cellular therapy
[ https://lunginstitute.com/treatment/cellular-therapy-basics/ ]
and what it could mean for your life moving forward, contact us today or call us at 855-430-4710. Our patient coordinators will walk you through our available treatment options, talk through your current health and medical history and determine a qualifying treatment plan that works best for you.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on January 13, 2020, 02:41:36 PM
I would like to report some progress on my COPD. While I totally do believe there are cures, for now I do not have much in the way of funds for special substances or clinics, I do what I can for now. I am still stuck on prescription medications but I feel OK  and am coughing only rarely, a few months ago was hacking my brains out. NOW,  as long as I keep up my meds and am not exposed to cigarette smoke I do fine, at the present time.  :)

Here is what helped me, maybe this will help someone else:

1) I went to a good, understanding doc, a pulmonologist.

2) He recommended the Mucinex DM tablet (which I was already on
but not taking as regularly as I could) I started taking it faithfully, with lots of water.
Sometimes it is a 12-hr dose pill, sometimes a four-hour. Either one works well.

3) I went off of a blood pressure medicine called Lisinopril.
It does not do this to everyone but for some people it causes a hacking cough that just doesn't stop, until you stop taking the Lisinopril. (Note, for safety sake, let your doc know what is  happening and get a different med, not a good idea to just suddenly stop something like a BP med.

4) (Watch who you have around you) A lady used to live in the house. Rented a room. Her room and her stuff reeked of cigarette butts. Although she smoked outside, which was the agreement, she kept half smoked cigarettes (butts on little bags but not well-sealed. We didn't figure on that. She didn't notice the odor or the toxic particles coming off of it so she stashed them with her stuff in the dining room area or her room. I told her her stuff smelled like cigarette butts but she insisted there were no butts in her stuff. One day my daughter and her boyfriend and I went through it and found cigarette butts. She didn’t do it deliberate, just had her mind on other things, and being a smoker she did not notice the smell.

5) Also she was sick and continually hacking her brains out. When she moved out, Bless her, I started to do better, myself. She got better herself after she moved out...she is not such a bad gal, good in many ways but that smoking, (yecch!!)

6) My chain smoking daughter and son both finally quit. They didn't ever smoke in the house but even when people smoked outside, I used to get exposed to it.
The vape juice scent bothers me a little if I get a whiff of it or if someone fills their vape thing in their room, the scent whaffs through... but that is a work in progress, I am not smelling it...
It is a relief that my daughter and my only son who live here no longer actually smoke at all!!

- Barb T.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: Yowbarb on January 13, 2020, 02:49:45 PM
PS I did recently get diagnosed with Eosinophic COPD. So this is pretty much an inborn, genetic thing but avoiding smoke etc. helps a lot.

I would have to go out of my way to survive something like a bunch of volcanic smoke, such as what is going on in the Philippines now... Preparations definitely needed for that, and I recommend everyone take precautions for themselves and their little kids or oldsters with respiratory problems...
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on January 15, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Saw this on Project Camelot the other day.....

http://projectcamelotportal.com/2020/01/14/caught-a-new-disease-secretly-rising-against-women/

Paul Collin: Caught A New Disease Secretly Rising Against Women

January 14, 2020

SAGA WITH THE MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT

***
by, Paul Collin
LOS ANGELES – January 14, 2020 – During November 2019, I was hospitalized because of loss of appetite, inability to breathe normally, and considerable fatigue.

Little did I realize, or for that matter nor did doctors have a clue, I contracted a relatively new disease on the rise affecting more ‘women’ than men, and how this occurred should be a wake-up call that is nothing short of a startling revelation to everyone on planet Earth as-to why it is going out-of control today.

I inadvertently learned while at a Cedar-Sinai affiliate hospital that the attending hospital emergency room doctor took it upon himself to determine I ‘might have an infectious disease’ so, he contacted the U.S. Center for Disease Control Studies in Atlanta, Georgia to obtain a “CDC Hold Order” placed on me to be being involuntary quarantined based only me being ‘suspected of carrying the Tuberculosis ( TB ) disease’ even though ‘no TB tests were performed or ever ordered by this doctor’.

Fright And Flight –

It just so happened that an ‘awake and aware’ Registered Nurse ( RN ) discovered I research and write about globally sensitive information issues within The UPI Guy column at Project Camelot so, she came to me just prior to the hospital staff work-shift change, and mentioned the aforementioned doctor’s plans having been initially put forward and ‘pending a CDC Hold confirmation’ whereupon if he was successful, I would be seized and physically locked-away in-to quarantine.

I had to think fast. I asked this RN if I could quickly discharge myself away-from the hospital, and she told me that I had about 5-minutes and she would quickly bring me the voluntary discharge forms to sign, give me a copy, and show me how to get  to the ‘hospital service elevator’ to sneak out-of the hospital.

Because I was earlier informed by two ( 2 ) other doctors at the same hospital that I did even come close to fitting the profile as a Tuberculosis  ( TB ) patient candidate, and that if anything there may be a remote possibility that I may have the “Rhino Virus” that hospitals were recently being bombarded with by patient carriers of such, but even ‘that’ was only a ‘remote possibility’ because I did not even fit ‘that medical malady profile’ either.

I decided to get out of the hospital because too many things did not add up to me being quarantined ‘without proper testing first’ so, I took the advice of the RN who told me that in 15-years as an RN that she never saw an ordinary doctor – ‘not a specialist’ – take steps to seize any patient with a ‘CDC Hold’ and ‘forced / involuntary segregation’ without appropriate test results warranting such first.

Within 2-hours after leaving the hospital, I began receiving telephone calls from official authorities whom were endeavoring to capture me.
These hunters even drove out to my ‘mailing address’ to seize me, according to health department rules.

I was forced to remain hidden for up-to eight ( 8 ) weeks while my hospital-collected ‘sputum culture’ was could be ‘grown in the hospital’s microbiology laboratory’ to determine what was ‘really medically amiss with me’, and had I ‘not done as I had and escaped the doctor’s treachery’ I would have been ‘locked-up in quarantine for at-least 8-weeks until they decided what to do with me then’.

I remember the RN asking me if anyone was ‘out to get me’, and I said, “Yes, at-least three ( 3 ) groups, all of whom had been unsuccessful however, maybe one ( 1 ) found a way to tap into the National Hospital Database and do something to get to me with a phony CDC Hold.” I thought the nurse was paranoid until I said what I did, which made me realize I might be right.

Within 1-day, I saw to having telephoned the official investigators from the Health Department whom were advised I was ‘out of the country on assignment’ and I ‘would not be returning until the first week of January 2020’.

They were also asked to call me as soon as my ‘sputum culture growth defined my medical problem ( if any )’, and that I ‘would make private medical arrangements if such was ever warranted’ according to test findings.

A New Disease Caught –
On January 10, 2020 I returned to the same Cedar-Sinai affiliate hospital whereupon 4 four doctors informed me I never had Tuberculosis ( TB ) at all.

What I have medically contracted is apparently ‘environmentally acquired’ – albeit from fresh water, salt water, hot water systems, soils, dusts, aerosols, foods, plants and various types of animals ( e.g. birds, fish, livestock farm animals ) – is technically referred-to as a Non-Tuberculosis Mycobacteria ( NTM ).

Specifically, Mycobacterium Avium Complex ( MAC ), a ‘Progressive Pulmonary Disease’ requiring lengthy rehabilitation treatments plus several different types of antibiotics, is my problem.

MAC often takes the form of a ‘pulmonary pathogen’, and although the mode of transmission is unclear, MAC is most likely ‘environmentally acquired’. Even more interestingly, according to U.S. Center for Disease Control Studies ( CDC ) reports, ‘incidents of MAC has been increasing’ due to ‘anti-microbial resistance’ in human beings.

No one knows why the rates of MAC are rising.
Mycobacterium Avium Complex ( MAC ) usually consists of two ( 2 ) different species of bacteria:
Mycobacterium Avium; or,
Mycobacterium Intracellulare.

Both of the aforementioned specific diseases are difficult to differentiate from and are found in various ‘environmental settings across the globe’.   Several ‘different syndromes’ are caused by Mycobacterium Avium Complex ( MAC ).

Research Reference –
m.youtube.com/watch?v=3hUFa_OUA6o
MAC Is A New Non-Smoking Women’s Disease –


Even more strange, MAC is ‘genetically related’ and in conjunction with ‘certain environments’.
MAC is attacking a lot of ‘women’ ( non-smokers ), ‘veterans’ and especially those with the Cardio-Pulmonary Disease known as ‘COPD’ ( smokers ).

MAC, is a relatively new very complex disease strain requiring various types of treatments.

Research Reference –
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw8hVJp1sJU
Doctors only recently advised me that by sleeping in my van as a vehicular homeless person over the past 13-years, that the cold night air is now serving to worsen my medical condition without proper insulation or heater within my immediate environment.

While I cannot afford a room to rent or other normal living shelter, I came up with an alternative, which doctors said would help me a lot.
Installation of a special dual battery system allowing me to use a temperature controlled heater too would require at-least $1,000 ( USD ) just to maintain my health while my lung problem is treatable.

Doctors went on to offer me out-patient rehabilitation treatments plus a vigorous regimen of multiple antibiotics to kill the environmental infections growing inside my lungs.

I’m very sorry to present my situation as it is now in dire straits of worsening due to changes of temperature elements at night where I am awakened throughout the night by my incessant coughing and expectorating infectious flem out-of my lungs so much so I can barely get any sleep because of my lungs wheezing so loudly during the night.

If anyone can help with assisting me with their donation, now is the time – before it’s too late.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: R.R. Book on January 16, 2020, 04:52:26 AM
I wonder if this illness is related to "sick building syndrome?"

The possibility of being falsely quarantined and detained in a hospital is reason enough to stick to naturopathy, perhaps with the exception of a broken bone or something requiring surgery.  Even much of that is done in outpatient clinics not on hospital grounds these days.
Title: Re: COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease
Post by: ilinda on January 16, 2020, 11:25:59 AM
And how lucky he was to have connected with the nurse who saw what was about to heppen!  Absolutely right to be cautious these days.  It is wise to avoid hospitals nowadays unless you are carried to the ER under threat of death.   For many reasons.

It could be a version of "sick building syndrome", as that's a carryall term for so much of the toxicity in building materials, as well as mould which can be growing in a seemingly healthful home.