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ilinda - SURVIVAL HEALTH => SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF => Topic started by: Socrates on December 12, 2016, 11:09:39 PM

Title: DENTAL HEALTH
Post by: Socrates on December 12, 2016, 11:09:39 PM
Our teeth; this is where the rubber really hits the road. And for more reasons than one!

So-called dental medicine is really a joke. Millions of people religiously brushing their teeth 3 x a day and still getting cavities. What's wrong with this picture? Well, i'll tell you.

Dental 'medicine' is one of the great modern scams. And this you have to realize as prepper / survivalist or much of your preparations appear moot.
Let's get down to brass tacks here; Weston Price was a real authority in relation to dental health; he was simultaneously the head of the national Dental Association and an accomplished dental health researcher [this was in the days when competence and authority could still sometimes go hand-in-hand...].
Weston Price actually went all over the world in search of peoples with real dental health and researched where the hell it came from. His findings were very telling, though politically incorrect in today's pharmaceutical paradigm...
This great pioneer actually found peoples with no tooth decay whatsoever. After some reflection and research he discovered that it had to do with a few factors specifically relevant to dental health. Now, not all of these people ate the same diets. In fact, their diets could look nothing alike. However, they did have one thing in common: they supplied them with the minerals they needed to keep their teeth growing and putting out new enamel all through their life..

Wait, wait; don't all dental professionals tell you that your body cannot grow new enamel?!
Yeah, Weston Price found out 100 years ago that that's all bs. Though modern professionals will suggest and tell you that your teeth are like rocks that need to be chiseled and repaired like some kind of dental statues residing within our mouth, logic and science show a completely different picture, for there are MILES of blood vessels to be found within each tooth. That's logical since... they are alive and growing parts of your body!
But haven't we all been led to believe that we need dentists to drill and mortar our teeth like some kind of mouth rocks? Yes, and it made them a lot of money...

Let's get back to the peoples Weston Price encountered when he was traveling the world in search of folks with perfect teeth. He learned that people with ZERO [!] cavities also had very broad jaw bones; in effect, they were simply people with so many minerals in their diet that their bodies were able to optimally produce whatever tissue was natural and desirable. It effected their bodies in many subtle ways and it allowed for their teeth to be constantly putting out new enamel or new bone when needed. In fact, you could chisel into their teeth and it would regrow, including an enamel layer.

Margory Wildcraft helped put out a DVD in which Doug Simons (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=33VYkEITEIY) explains how one can take care of one's teeth and cause them to heal. But there's no magic or rocket science here; it's all about minerals and proper diet, plus some helpful techniques to support healing from poor diets and dental failures.


After 35+ years of interest in health and diet it is clear to me that health is all about minerals, toxicity control and healthy gut flora. These are things that used to be quite natural and easy to come by, which is why only 3% of folks would die of cancer or heart disease in 1900 in the U.S.A. [as opposed to 80% nowadays].
You get minerals from minerally-dense foods. These are grown in minerally-dense soils...
Hence the importance of permaculture (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=6350.0).
Toxicity control is about avoiding dangerous foods and focusing on a diet of safe, minerally-dense clean foods. Often this simply means foods you have grown yourself.
Fermented foods supply the gut with the necessary beneficial bacteria, though there are other good habits, like consuming foods grown in good soil that have not been washed-to-death; in this way beneficial bacteria in the soil make their way into your gut.

These people Weston Price found that enjoyed zero tooth decay are what survivors of the coming apocalypse should be focusing on; how do i create a culture that enjoys similar benefits and therefore requires neither doctors nor dentists?; that is the question. The question is NOT: "How do i save antibiotics or learn to drill holes in teeth?"!
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: ilinda on December 13, 2016, 12:29:43 PM
Our teeth; this is where the rubber really hits the road. And for more reasons than one!

So-called dental medicine is really a joke. Millions of people religiously brushing their teeth 3 x a day and still getting cavities. What's wrong with this picture? Well, i'll tell you.

Dental 'medicine' is one of the great modern scams. And this you have to realize as prepper / survivalist or much of your preparations appear moot.
Let's get down to brass tacks here; Weston Price was a real authority in relation to dental health; he was simultaneously the head of the national Dental Association and an accomplished dental health researcher [this was in the days when competence and authority could still sometimes go hand-in-hand...].
Weston Price actually went all over the world in search of peoples with real dental health and researched where the hell it came from. His findings were very telling, though politically incorrect in today's pharmaceutical paradigm...
This great pioneer actually found peoples with no tooth decay whatsoever. After some reflection and research he discovered that it had to do with a few factors specifically relevant to dental health. Now, not all of these people ate the same diets. In fact, their diets could look nothing alike. However, they did have one thing in common: they supplied them with the minerals they needed to keep their teeth growing and putting out new enamel all through their life..

Wait, wait; don't all dental professionals tell you that your body cannot grow new enamel?!
Yeah, Weston Price found out 100 years ago that that's all bs. Though modern professionals will suggest and tell you that your teeth are like rocks that need to be chiseled and repaired like some kind of dental statues residing within our mouth, logic and science show a completely different picture, for there are MILES of blood vessels to be found within each tooth. That's logical since... they are alive and growing parts of your body!
But haven't we all been led to believe that we need dentists to drill and mortar our teeth like some kind of mouth rocks? Yes, and it made them a lot of money...

Let's get back to the peoples Weston Price encountered when he was traveling the world in search of folks with perfect teeth. He learned that people with ZERO [!] cavities also had very broad jaw bones; in effect, they were simply people with so many minerals in their diet that their bodies were able to optimally produce whatever tissue was natural and desirable. It effected their bodies in many subtle ways and it allowed for their teeth to be constantly putting out new enamel or new bone when needed. In fact, you could chisel into their teeth and it would regrow, including an enamel layer.

Margory Wildcraft helped put out a DVD in which Doug Simons (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=33VYkEITEIY) explains how one can take care of one's teeth and cause them to heal. But there's no magic or rocket science here; it's all about minerals and proper diet, plus some helpful techniques to support healing from poor diets and dental failures.


After 35+ years of interest in health and diet it is clear to me that health is all about minerals, toxicity control and healthy gut flora. These are things that used to be quite natural and easy to come by, which is why only 3% of folks would die of cancer or heart disease in 1900 in the U.S.A. [as opposed to 80% nowadays].
You get minerals from minerally-dense foods. These are grown in minerally-dense soils...
Hence the importance of permaculture (http://planetxtownhall.com/index.php?topic=6350.0).
Toxicity control is about avoiding dangerous foods and focusing on a diet of safe, minerally-dense clean foods. Often this simply means foods you have grown yourself.
Fermented foods supply the gut with the necessary beneficial bacteria, though there are other good habits, like consuming foods grown in good soil that have not been washed-to-death; in this way beneficial bacteria in the soil make their way into your gut.

These people Weston Price found that enjoyed zero tooth decay are what survivors of the coming apocalypse should be focusing on; how do i create a culture that enjoys similar benefits and therefore requires neither doctors nor dentists?; that is the question. The question is NOT: "How do i save antibiotics or learn to drill holes in teeth?"!
Good information.  I ordered the CD of Doug Simons, through Marjory Wildcraft, and he also shows how to make a wooden "stick" for teeth cleaning, which does not do the damage to teeth that steel dental implements do.

For those who live in cities, or anywhere where they cannot grow food, and cannot find organic and/or permaculture-grown food at farmer's markets, there are two fairly good sources of minerals, each slightly different. 

Horsetail, or "Equisetum", is a plant highly valuable for someone wanting to remineralize teeth.  There are two types of equisetum--the one that has thin stems and is highly branched, and the other with tall thick, unbranched stems, appearing somewhat "prehistoric" with its nodes or junctures spaced up and down its vertical stems.  The desired one is the unbranched, thick-stemmed variety.  It grows along creek banks around here and presumably that is where it prefers due to proximity to water.  Doug tells how to dry, then pulverize this plant, then dose with a small amount several times a month.  The most important thing I remember about it is that the equisetum powder must be boiled about 20-30 minutes in water before ingestion, as some enzyme must be deactivated first.  (I'm not sure this part was in the CD, but I read it in the text accompanying the CD, or in a separate article on teeth remineralization.)

A second source of minerals good for teeth and bones is eggshell.  It is important to use organic or biodynamic, as conventional chicken feed is supplemented with arsenic, which no doubt ends up in the shells.

Years ago I took a course called Medicinal Botany, a wonderful course detailing many of the practices across the world that tie our plant world to medicinal and health uses.  One topic was "chewing sticks".  The course was co-taught by Dr. Walter Lewis and his wife Dr. Memory-Elvin Lewis, who had traveled extensively throughout various African countries in search of relevant practices.  They discussed how most of the native peoples never had toothbrushes as we do, but would make their own chewing sticks out of certain types of tree stems/branches.  The sample stick I recall was about the length of our toothbrushes, with one end being the handle, and the other having been flayed out into many projections, so that the end of the stick almost resembled a "brush" but was spherical, and each of the "bristles" was somewhat flexible.  The handle end might have been sharpened in the manner of that of Doug Simons' tooth cleaning stick.  If I can find my notes from the class, I'll post about the types of trees that were used, and one I do recall was our dogwood.

Also, IIRC, it was stated that people would "chew" on their chewing sticks off and on all day, or something similar.
Title: Re: More on dental
Post by: Socrates on December 13, 2016, 11:54:27 PM
A second source of minerals good for teeth and bones is eggshell.  It is important to use organic or biodynamic, as conventional chicken feed is supplemented with arsenic, which no doubt ends up in the shells.
Tony Pantalleresco (http://oneradionetwork.com/health/tony-pantalleresco-your-health-has-to-be-in-your-own-hands-july-8-2013/) suggests leaving eggshells in vinegar until they are dissolved and then take a teaspoon of that a day.

I've been collecting tidbits on dental health and dental care for years (http://b2012overleven.runboard.com/f6). Stories like that a single drop of ratfish liver oil will stop you from ever having tooth decay.

There are other considerations, like the importance of strontium and magnesium for strong bones, especially teeth. In the end you just need minerally-dense foods; then you don't have to worry about details.

If you are still on the fence about mercury fillings, i suggest you read Hal Huggins' book It's All In Your Head. Somebody who's studied chemistry recently said to me: "Oh, mercury fillings should be fine, for the amalgam doesn't react the same as pure mercury would". People like that need to read the research and stop their wishful thinking; it's so adolescent. If you still have mercury fillings, get them taken out, for the neural toxin mercury is severely limiting your mind's ability to work properly. (Take brazil nuts for a natural way to rid the body of mercury.)

I myself don't brush anymore, for i just use toothpicks to brush my teeth (as well as clean between them). I can't go out finding dry sticks, especially in Holland [climate like Seattle] but toothpicks are everywhere and very cheap. I try to carry some with me all the time now.

One guy told me he got rid of a cavity using MMS and why not? The herbs and other things Doug Simons mentions are largely there to do away with harmful bacteria in the mouth but nothing is deadlier to such bacteria than MMS. It tastes terrible so i gave up rinsing with it a long time ago, but i'll make a single drop, perhaps add some DMSO, and dip a Q-tip in it and bring it to whatever place on my teeth i wish directly. I also often put clay (powder) in my mouth when i go to bed to it can soak up bad elements during the night [in the morning i just rinse my mouth and Bob's yer uncle]. If i have a real problem i mix the clay with MMS and put it where i have pain or infection or whatever.
Title: Re: horsetail
Post by: Socrates on April 19, 2017, 11:20:41 PM
The most important thing I remember about it is that the equisetum powder must be boiled about 20-30 minutes in water before ingestion, as some enzyme must be deactivated first.  (I'm not sure this part was in the CD, but I read it in the text accompanying the CD, or in a separate article on teeth remineralization.)
Horsetail is coming up again [here in Holland, i.e. 52 degrees lattitude, April 20 2017] and i'm pleasantly surprised to read about boiling it first... I have been collecting it for years and perhaps because i have not been boiling it i have not received the results i'd hoped for.

Where did you read or hear this?
Title: Re: horsetail
Post by: ilinda on April 20, 2017, 01:45:19 PM
The most important thing I remember about it is that the equisetum powder must be boiled about 20-30 minutes in water before ingestion, as some enzyme must be deactivated first.  (I'm not sure this part was in the CD, but I read it in the text accompanying the CD, or in a separate article on teeth remineralization.)
Horsetail is coming up again [here in Holland, i.e. 52 degrees lattitude, April 20 2017] and i'm pleasantly surprised to read about boiling it first... I have been collecting it for year and perhaps because i have not been boiling it i have not received the results i'd hoped for.

Where did you read or hear this?
I've been trying to find my source, as my herbalist friend did not hear or read that either.  I do remember now the specifics.  It said that making a decoction out of horsetail (which means boiling about 20-30 minutes first) is important because it is needed to deactivate thiaminase.  Apparently there's an enzyme, thiaminase, which will destroy or inactivate your own thimine, so you first need to denature the thiaminase.  I'll try to find my source.

I've only used the horsetail a few times, using up the batch I originally pulverized, drinking a glass a day until it was gone, after about 5 days or so.  I also remember that it said one should not take horsetail daily, but only about 4-5X/per month.  Maybe I can find the source and clarify everything.
Title: Re: horsetail
Post by: Socrates on April 20, 2017, 11:31:19 PM
one should not take horsetail daily, but only about 4-5X/per month.
In my own 20-min. compilation (i made years ago) @ 6 min. 40 sec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33VYkEITEIY) it says one should consume the horsetail 5 or 10 days and then take a few days off; 10 day/month for healthy teeth is supposedly sufficient.
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: Yowbarb on April 21, 2017, 12:01:53 AM
Interesting info...
Title: Re: horsetail
Post by: ilinda on April 21, 2017, 05:22:42 PM
one should not take horsetail daily, but only about 4-5X/per month.
In my own 20-min. compilation (i made years ago) @ 6 min. 40 sec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33VYkEITEIY) it says one should consume the horsetail 5 or 10 days and then take a few days off; 10 day/month for healthy teeth is supposedly sufficient.
I would think 10 days/mo would be OK, and IIRC, the reason for caution, and not dosing daily is that horsetail is somewhat of a diuretic, and in spite of being full of beneficial minerals, its diuretic effect could undo all that if taken daily. 
To be on the safe side, I'll probably stick with 5 or so days/mo.
Title: sticks for cleaning teeth
Post by: Socrates on October 18, 2017, 11:22:00 PM
the wooden tools, handmade by him I guess, but he never mentions the type of wood, and how exactly did he make them?  How long did it take?  The end of one I recall was as smooth as a baby's butt, as it sort of resembled a wood chisel.  But he never mentioned whether he hand-sanded them, or used power tools, etc., etc.

I made one, which incidentally never achieved the polished look of his "dental chisel", and I stopped using it soon as it began getting rather funky, as I guess after each use, it must be cleaned thoroughly in vinegar, or?
As a 'writer', i'm aware of how things get read into what you're trying to say. And whether one is writing or speaking [/blogging/whatever], time is always an issue, for that last thing ya want is to bore your audience...
Having said that, i think Doug Simons didn't elaborate on the wooden utensils because it just doesn't matter. I myself have just been using tooth picks and i'm quite happy with the results. And the great thing about tooth picks is that you discard them after maybe one minute's use [then ya go on to the next one].
Toothpicks come out of a factory but if you're 'out in the woods' i imagine you just go out and find an appropriate twig or other. It's not rocket science... and i don't think one should read too much into it.

Thinking of the toothpicks, i discard them after a couple of minutes and the next one i use is sterile; god knows i'm not thinking of cleaning or sterilizing them so i can use them again. And i imagine that if you're out in the woods and picking wood for cleaning your teeth with, you're not looking for a 'tool', as much as you're looking for an 'instrument' that you'll be using only once... [semantics]


In India they use neem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azadirachta_indican), in northern Africa it's miswak (http://www.miswakstick.com/); all over the world twigs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teeth_cleaning_twig) have been used for oral hygiene. But what does one notice foremost? It's about a single twig [as part of a bunch] for use. In other words, one uses the twig for a while, then discards it and goes on to the next twig.
I personally use some 4 or 5 toothpicks when cleaning my teeth after a meal. You'll know when your toothpick is 'used up' because it frays. And some toothpicks are hardier than others, and some batches of toothpicks include those that are hardier than others...
In the end, your teeth [and other regions within your mouth, i.e. in between teeth as well as cavities] feel 'polished' and very different from how they felt before. Marjory Wildcraft says this technique has whitened her teeth to the point that after using this technique for 2 years, people actually comment on how white and healthy her teeth look.
Title: rinsing and feeding the teeth
Post by: Socrates on January 28, 2018, 04:14:29 PM
More great info by Tony Pantalleresco (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J2vEIpqy90) on teeth.
Title: Re: More on dental
Post by: ilinda on February 01, 2018, 06:09:56 PM

I myself don't brush anymore, for i just use toothpicks to brush my teeth (as well as clean between them). I can't go out finding dry sticks, especially in Holland [climate like Seattle] but toothpicks are everywhere and very cheap. I try to carry some with me all the time now.
What kind of wood do you use?  I'm think about walnut due to its hardness, but suppose many types might do.  I like your idea of toothpicks instead of the plastic-bristled toothbrushes.  Do you just use a toothpick several times a day or only mornngs and evenings?
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: Yowbarb on February 02, 2018, 01:14:33 AM
Co Q10 for gums: Excerpt from article,
...
https://alsearsmd.com/2015/09/overlooked-nutrient-zaps-gum-disease/  Al Sears MD

Overlooked Nutrient Zaps Gum Disease

 I always prescribe CoQ10 to my heart-disease patients, because heart cells need more energy than any other organ. It needs enough energy to pump blood throughout the whole body.

But I also noticed after a few weeks of treatment that CoQ10 not only helped their heart condition, it also stopped their gum disease.

I checked the research and found a lot of evidence linking CoQ10 to the reversal of gum disease.4 One study looked at 40 gingivitis patients and found most were CoQ10 deficient.5

Another study using a double-blind trial found that CoQ10 doses of 50 to 75 mg every day stopped gum disease very quickly – sometimes within just a few days.6

But I wasn’t surprised to discover the benefits of CoQ10 on gum disease. This super-nutrient is produced by your body in a 17-step process that requires at least eight vitamins, riboflavin (B2), niacinamide (B3), pantothenic acid (B5), pyridoxine (B6), cobalamin (B12), folic acid, vitamin C and other trace minerals and the amino acid tyrosine. And its strength lies in its power to protect and fire up your mitochondria, the microscopic power plants of your cells.

Your mitochondria also make up the master energy system that runs all your body’s functions – your circulatory, immune and endocrine system, as well as everything else that keeps you alive.

Low levels of CoQ10 affect every aspect of life. It also affects health, which brings on diseases and speed up aging. Yet CoQ10’s crucial role is still ignored by mainstream medicine.

Mitochondria are where food is converted into energy – but they are also the Achilles’ heel of cellular aging. As you grow older, your body produces less CoQ10 and that’s when your energy-producing system slows down. Our brains are no longer sharp, our hearts do not beat as efficiently and we get tired easily.

But replacing depleted CoQ10 reserves through diet and supplementation has a potent and rejuvenating impact on every part of your body – including your gums. It supercharges the energy output from each of your cellular power producers.

Here’s What I Recommend

First, look for CoQ10 from your diet. CoQ10 is a bright red pigment, and the highest concentrations are found in red-meat animals like beef, mutton, goat, ostrich, and rabbit.

In the table below, you get a quick idea of which foods have the most, and how much you need to eat.
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: Yowbarb on February 02, 2018, 02:21:50 AM
PS on food sources of CoQ10 (CoQ10 for health in general and gum and dental health specifically)
Yowbarb Note: For those who do not eat meat, here are excerpts from articles on sources of coenzyme Q10: I would add brewers yeast to the list, although not everyone can tolerate it.

https://www.onegreenplanet.org/vegan-food/all-about-coq10-and-how-to-get-it-in-your-plant-based-diet/

All About CoQ10 (And How to Get it in Your Plant-Based Diet)

"CoQ10 is naturally found in high levels in organ meats such as liver, kidney, and heart, as well as in beef, sardines, and mackerel. Vegetarians or vegans who are used to eating these foods should find a suitable alternative. Luckily, vegetable sources of CoQ10 include spinach, broccoli, and cauliflower. Legumes such as peanuts and soybeans are the best non-animal sources of the substance."
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http://heal-thyself.ning.com/profiles/blogs/coenzyme-q10-food-sources 

Vegetables
6. Several vegetables contain small to moderate amounts of coenzyme Q10, including spinach, broccoli, sweet potato, sweet pepper, garlic, peas, cauliflower and carrots."

http://www.ehow.com/facts_5171170_foods-contain-coenzyme-q10.html

(3) the germs of whole grains. The most concentrated sources of coenzyme Q - like heart or kidney - contain about 2-3 milligrams of coenzyme Q per ounce of heart or kidney. The germs of grains, while containing less coenzyme Q per ounce, also contain vitamin E in amounts of 5-10 IU per ounce, and this vitamin E works together with coenzyme Q in the body."

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=118

"There are plenty of vegetable sources of Coenzyme Q10, the richest being spinach, broccoli, peanuts, wheat germ and whole grains - in that order, although the amount is significantly smaller than that found in meats. Also, it is important to note that these foods must be raw, fresh and unprocessed - no milling, canning, preserving, freezing, etc."
http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/coenzyme-q10.htm
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https://www.mounthopewholesale.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/wheat-germ-image.jpg
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: R.R. Book on February 02, 2018, 06:12:26 AM
Barb, based on what you and Socrates have posted recently, I'm planning to start eating organic organ meats more often.  I remember loving the taste of them when I was young, when Mom fried them up back before fried foods were taboo!

Thanks for all the useful information! :)
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: ilinda on February 02, 2018, 06:45:55 AM
"CoQ10 is found in maternal plasma and milk throughout early lactation":
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873931

Thanks for raising our awareness of the role CoQ10 can play in gum disease.  It's something I had never pondered, and merely thought of it as a supplement people take for heart disease.  Apparently it has many uses.
Title: DENTAL HEALTH
Post by: Yowbarb on February 02, 2018, 05:52:18 PM
"CoQ10 is found in maternal plasma and milk throughout early lactation":
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873931

Thanks for raising our awareness of the role CoQ10 can play in gum disease.  It's something I had never pondered, and merely thought of it as a supplement people take for heart disease.  Apparently it has many uses.

Oh ilinda!! This is something I totally did not know.  :)
I know about breast milk being vitally important but died not know about the abundance of CoQ10.
I am going to quote you on this in the topic about childbearing and feeding infants, breastfeeding , etc.
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: ilinda on February 03, 2018, 07:25:13 PM
"CoQ10 is found in maternal plasma and milk throughout early lactation":
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873931

Thanks for raising our awareness of the role CoQ10 can play in gum disease.  It's something I had never pondered, and merely thought of it as a supplement people take for heart disease.  Apparently it has many uses.

Oh ilinda!! This is something I totally did not know.  :)
I know about breast milk being vitally important but died not know about the abundance of CoQ10.
I am going to quote you on this in the topic about childbearing and feeding infants, breastfeeding , etc.
And yet another benefit of raw milk, as I would imagine that humans aren't the only animals whose early milk contains CoQ10.
Title: Re: toothpicks
Post by: Socrates on February 03, 2018, 10:15:58 PM
Do you just use a toothpick several times a day or only mornngs and evenings?
It's really simple: after i've eaten.
It's less simple when this means postponing a meal until it's clear one has the tools and privacy to properly clean one's teeth afterward... But this ties in with my current experimentations on intermittent fasting anyway  :D
Title: Re: CoQ10
Post by: Socrates on February 03, 2018, 10:40:43 PM
I've heard it's very important to take Vit. C with CoQ10 since it makes the CoQ10 much more effective (and since the CoQ10 is very expensive and the Vit. C relatively cheap, it's just logical).
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: R.R. Book on February 04, 2018, 05:44:54 AM
This may be a good time to mention that Soc's .pdf on optimizing mineral absorption strongly recommends getting vitamin C via an organic food source or at least a buffered form (mineral ascorbate is a high pH alkaline salt) and avoiding ascorbic acid (low pH form). 
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: ilinda on February 05, 2018, 07:27:30 PM
This may be a good time to mention that Soc's .pdf on optimizing mineral absorption strongly recommends getting vitamin C via an organic food source or at least a buffered form (mineral ascorbate is a high pH alkaline salt) and avoiding ascorbic acid (low pH form).
Sorry I don't have the source in front of me, but have read that you can make your own vitamin C by carefully and slowly dehydrating organic lemon or lime peel.  Then store in cool, dark place.  Crumble for ingestion.  Of course if you live in tropical area this would be easy.
Title: Re: toothpicks
Post by: ilinda on February 05, 2018, 07:30:10 PM
Do you just use a toothpick several times a day or only mornngs and evenings?
It's really simple: after i've eaten.
It's less simple when this means postponing a meal until it's clear one has the tools and privacy to properly clean one's teeth afterward... But this ties in with my current experimentations on intermittent fasting anyway  :D
I'm pretty much convinced.  In fact a homemade toothpick would be a lot like the "chewing stick" of some Native cultures, and I've been eyeing up several walnut limbs for processing into toothpick-like or "frayed stick"-like tools.  Update to follow.
Title: dental care
Post by: Socrates on February 13, 2018, 11:02:08 PM
a homemade toothpick would be a lot like the "chewing stick" of some Native cultures, and I've been eyeing up several walnut limbs for processing into toothpick-like or "frayed stick"-like tools.
As toothpicks are actually super cheap and easy to come by in this day and age, i suggest you go with that and eye your trees for 'tooth picking' in any post-apocalyptic future...  ;)

Via OneRadioNetwork (https://oneradionetwork.com/?s=dr+ellie) [a source i've accessed since 2008], i learned of a 'more or less' mainstream dental practitioner and teacher who seems to have developed an effective system that helps regenerate tooth decay.
Her system (https://drelliecom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/zellies-cmcsbooklet-2016-spreads.pdf) involves a number of steps meant to undermine bacterial colonies in the mouth and support the body's natural ability to heal and regrow [i.e. dental bone and enamel].
Title: Re: dental care
Post by: Yowbarb on February 14, 2018, 05:52:56 PM
a homemade toothpick would be a lot like the "chewing stick" of some Native cultures, and I've been eyeing up several walnut limbs for processing into toothpick-like or "frayed stick"-like tools.
As toothpicks are actually super cheap and easy to come by in this day and age, i suggest you go with that and eye your trees for 'tooth picking' in any post-apocalyptic future...  ;)

Via OneRadioNetwork (https://oneradionetwork.com/?s=dr+ellie) [a source i've accessed since 2008], i learned of a 'more or less' mainstream dental practitioner and teacher who seems to have developed an effective system that helps regenerate tooth decay.
Her system (https://drelliecom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/zellies-cmcsbooklet-2016-spreads.pdf) involves a number of steps meant to undermine bacterial colonies in the mouth and support the body's natural ability to heal and regrow [i.e. dental bone and enamel].

Wow, thanks for posting this! I opened up the link and found this reminder page, showing what to do...
Title: Re: DENTAL HEALTH
Post by: Yowbarb on February 14, 2018, 06:03:42 PM
Yowbarb Note: Putting a few facts about xylitol, since it is a big part of Dr. Ellie's program.
...
(wikipedia)

Can you be allergic to xylitol?
Allergic Reaction. You may experience an allergic reaction to xylitol sweetener. Signs and symptoms of an allergic reaction include hives, skin rash, breathing difficulties, swelling of the mouth and hands, dizziness, vomiting, chest tightness and general weakness
...
Xylitol Starves The Bad Bacteria in The Mouth and Has Major Benefits for Dental Health

In one study, using xylitol-sweetened chewing gum reduced levels of the bad bacteria by 27-75%, while it had no effect on the friendly bacteria (11).

Xylitol also has other dental benefits (12):

Increases absorption of calcium in the digestive system, which is good for your teeth and may also protect against osteoporosis (13).
Increases production of saliva. Saliva contains calcium and phosphate, which get picked up by the teeth and aid in remineralization.
Reduces the acidity of saliva, which helps to fight acid-driven degradation of tooth enamel.
Numerous studies show that xylitol, either by replacing sugar or adding it on top of the diet, can reduce cavities and tooth decay by as much as 30-85% (14, 15, 16).

Because inflammation is at the root of many chronic diseases, it makes sense that reducing plaque and gum inflammation could have benefits for the rest of your body as well.

BOTTOM LINE:
Xylitol can starve the harmful bacteria in the mouth, reducing plaque buildup and tooth decay. This can help prevent dental caries and inflammatory gum diseases.
Title: Re: DENTAL HEALTH
Post by: Yowbarb on April 15, 2018, 08:35:30 PM
https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/fruit/health-benefits-of-cranberry-juice.html?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=15Apr18WebPush#strengthens-bones-and-teeth

(cranberries)

Prevents Tooth Decay
According to new research studies, cranberry juice prevents tooth cavities. Proanthocyanidins, a chemical compound present  in cranberries, inhibits harmful bacteria from clinging to teeth. These components inhibit acid production and protect the teeth from periodontal  diseases by preventing the growth of plaque. Good oral hygiene, along with the consumption of cranberries, disrupts the pathogenic mechanism of dental caries and generally makes for good dental health. At the same time, one should watch out for the soaring sugar content and the acidity of some commercially available cranberry juices – natural juice is always better!

from the Organicfacts article, 15 Amazing benefits of Cranberry Juice

https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/fruit/health-benefits-of-cranberry-juice.html?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=15Apr18WebPush#health-benefits-of-cranberry-juice
Title: Re: No posts on DENTAL HEALTH yet...?!
Post by: Yowbarb on September 09, 2019, 11:42:35 PM
Barb, based on what you and Socrates have posted recently, I'm planning to start eating organic organ meats more often.  I remember loving the taste of them when I was young, when Mom fried them up back before fried foods were taboo!

Thanks for all the useful information! :)

R.R. my mom used to fry up chicken liver or beef liver. it was really good...
When i used to work near a little British restaurant, I would stop in and get a hot steak and kidney pie. Really agreed with me...
I have tried beef heart...
I don't eat much beef right now but all those meats are good...
Title: Re: dental care
Post by: Yowbarb on September 09, 2019, 11:45:35 PM
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Via OneRadioNetwork (https://oneradionetwork.com/?s=dr+ellie) [a source i've accessed since 2008], i learned of a 'more or less' mainstream dental practitioner and teacher who seems to have developed an effective system that helps regenerate tooth decay.
Her system (https://drelliecom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/zellies-cmcsbooklet-2016-spreads.pdf) [https://drelliecom.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/zellies-cmcsbooklet-2016-spreads.pdf] involves a number of steps meant to undermine bacterial colonies in the mouth and support the body's natural ability to heal and regrow [i.e. dental bone and enamel].

ilinda, thanks. Decided to post her plan here, which you referred to in your post.
Dr. Ellie Phillips,
P O S T   I T   O N   Y O U R   B AT H R O O M   M I R R O R !

1
STEP ONE XYLITOL
Use products with 100% Xylitol throughout the day.
» For maximum effectiveness, have 6 – 10 grams per day.
» Xylitol is great anytime, but especially after meals
 and drinks.
» Granulated Xylitol or Mints or Gum.

2
STEP TWO PRE-RINSE
   Rinse with CLOSYS® mouth rinse for one minute.
» Do not rinse with water after this step.

3
STEP THREE BRUSH
   Brush with a soft toothbrush and use Crest® Regular Cavity
Protection Toothpaste (1-2 Minutes).
» Don’t use Crest® with: whitening, tartar control, stannous
 fluoride, sodium monofluorophosphate or triclosan.
» Keep toothbrush sanitary and clean. Keep it away from
 the toilet area.
» Do not rinse with water after this step.

4
STEP FOUR CLEAN
   Rinse with LISTERINE® (30-60 Seconds). Only use the Original
or Cool Mint flavors with ADA Shield.
» Don’t use LISTERINE® with plaque or tartar control,
 or whitening.
» Do not rinse with water after this step.

5
STEP FIVE PROTECT
Rinse with ACT® Anticavity Fluoride Rinse for 1 minute. Only use
the Mint, Cinnamon or Bubblegum flavors.
» Avoid all other ACT® formulas.
» Do not rinse with water after this step.
» Try to avoid eating or drinking for 30 minutes after
 finishing with this step.