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Title: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Linda on June 03, 2010, 07:37:05 AM
If you are storing survival food and gear in your current home, what creative ways are you doing it. Do you have the luxury of an extra room in your house? I fortunately have a large basement and a room down there that I have converted for this purpose. I'm sure everyone has ideas for making room no matter how small and area you have.

What's your idea's, shelving, under the bed storage units? How can you put together storage areas that are reasonably cheap?

Linda
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Lori on June 03, 2010, 01:41:22 PM
One of the things I think needs to be done is a hiding place for your food,  Lawlessness will be widespread and what you need to do is just have a shelf with a few basic needs where if there is a forced entrance they will grab those instead of your main supples, 

They won't take the time to search for the larger loot.   You need secret stash where you and only you know where it is. 

There are several ideas out there for a hidden compartment.

A Long-Term Survival Guide - Hidden Storage and Secret Compartments (http://www.scribd.com/doc/24582175/A-Long-Term-Survival-Guide-Hidden-Storage-and-Secret-Compartments#key6hjii0brzs4kef829cz)Here
Lori
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on June 04, 2010, 12:37:31 PM
Hi
my basic plan is to store stuff the best I can wherever I am.
When I get the survival land:
First of all I will have an old camper or shed or house there just to start out with and stay in when things are being set up.
I will create an underground shed made of concrete and put items there
every time I go out there.
Boxes of food,
water,
hygiene items,
tools etc.
The underground shed needs to be well hidden. Trees bushes real and fake whatever I can dream up.
I expect the stuff to still be there when I get back.
I may try to have someone I trust staying there while I am back and forth.
- Yowbarb 
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: vindicated on July 14, 2010, 08:23:57 AM
Just curious, would a cave be a good place to be? I have a good friend who happens to be curator at a local cave which is a tourist attraction, but he also has knowledge of miles of uncharted ones. I am so glad I found this forum...I have already lost friends and respect because I didn't keep my MOUTH SHUT!
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Linda on July 14, 2010, 08:51:00 AM
Just curious, would a cave be a good place to be? I have a good friend who happens to be curator at a local cave which is a tourist attraction, but he also has knowledge of miles of uncharted ones. I am so glad I found this forum...I have already lost friends and respect because I didn't keep my MOUTH SHUT!

Locations of caves will come in handy as a place to get to. Do you have access?

 I would say expect a resurgence of friends and respect when things get really rocky, they won't forget who was warning them. :)

Linda :)
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: CancriGuardian on July 14, 2010, 10:38:32 AM
I thought about using those false cans for storing valuables, except going a cheaper route by using real cans that have been opened with a safety can opener that opens from the side and then resealing with rubber glue or wax.  Any size can then could be used.

But then I thought....when the SHTF the "have-nots" will want to steal cans of food and other supplies, both for themselves and to sell to other have-nots, so there goes my valuables. I nixed that idea real fast.

As for food storage, I use a wall near the outside of the house.  If the house collapses I'm expecting it will be easier to find/access than trying to dig to the center of the house.  Caves and basements will probably collapse too and be hard to excavate.
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on July 14, 2010, 10:58:53 AM
Yowbarb Note: It used to be common for a big blunderbuss to be mounted up above the mantle piece. The "little woman" could grab that when her man was off the farm.
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The ten year old eldest child could ride around the perimeter with his shotgun slung over his shoulder. Now of course many a young person and adult has taken himself out with guns hence the over protective attitude toward guns. People just need to learn how to handle guns again. No point in being a sitting duck.



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Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on July 14, 2010, 11:02:20 AM
I thought about using those false cans for storing valuables, except going a cheaper route by using real cans that have been opened with a safety can opener that opens from the side and then resealing with rubber glue or wax.  Any size can then could be used.

But then I thought....when the SHTF the "have-nots" will want to steal cans of food and other supplies, both for themselves and to sell to other have-nots, so there goes my valuables. I nixed that idea real fast.

As for food storage, I use a wall near the outside of the house.  If the house collapses I'm expecting it will be easier to find/access than trying to dig to the center of the house.  Caves and basements will probably collapse too and be hard to excavate.

Cancriguardian that is a good point if a person is going to hide valuables, cash and so on it needs to be hidden in something they would not go to find and steal. Canned food would be a premium item for a thief to steal.
Maybe a pile of fake shrubbery would do...
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on July 14, 2010, 11:17:47 AM
Just curious, would a cave be a good place to be? I have a good friend who happens to be curator at a local cave which is a tourist attraction, but he also has knowledge of miles of uncharted ones. I am so glad I found this forum...I have already lost friends and respect because I didn't keep my MOUTH SHUT!

Vindicated, we are glad you found your way here. Sorry you had to lose some people - it does take courage to speak about the possibility of these things.
About the caves - well that is a possibility. I have seen some cave tourist attraction photos and a lot of them had grates and fences in front of them. If your friend has a map and they are not all policed that could work.
If it is high enough so that water will not go in there maybe it would hold up. The ancients fortified caves with a triple arch system. Three arches that were connected in the middle of the space. The middle of any given space was a joined column, the innermost part of the arch. That is posted in one of the Ancient ...Topicis about Cappadocia Turkey.
Well... getting in there to build such a thing = hard to do, if it is like in a State Park. If push comes to shove I would be grateful to live near a bunch of caves. There is no doubt in my mind humans have sought shelter in caves in the distant past and some of them survived...
All The Best,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: CancriGuardian on July 14, 2010, 11:24:47 AM
I like the fake shrubbery idea, maybe a plant in a pot so its easy to lift out, but otherwise covered on the surface by moss or other covering.

For years I've used the open space under my nightstand -- pulling out the bottom drawer shows an open space underneath.  Some quality dressers have a thin wood panel which could be cut out for a fall bottom.  Burglars open drawers searching but seldom would go beyond that (unless they read this).

I also have a false riser right in the middle of my formal dinning room table, basically a box without a bottom, that look like it is part of the table decoration.  Expensive silver items and other items get stored there.  A runner and other items sit on top and around it so it is less obvious.

Sometimes storing right out in front of everyone is the safest place.
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: vindicated on July 14, 2010, 01:56:29 PM
Yowbarb,
Yes, access to the cave is easy. I would however have to convince my friend of the necessity to be prepared. He is very open-minded though, an easy going, also talented musician. Rather bohemian, in fact. Any suggestions on how to start this subject with him?
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Ed Douglas on July 16, 2010, 08:19:30 AM
I have most of my supplies and food staples hidden at the bottom of the barrel of my shotgun. If there is too much to hide, the only place I figured I have is behind me, with my weapons at hand, hoping not to have to use them. So, in that respect, they are at the bottom of a 12ga barrel.... However, I am sure that everyone coming to call, will be classy and only asking for directions to the nearest outlet from the gov't, so I won't have to use military type actions.
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on July 16, 2010, 08:44:56 AM
I like the fake shrubbery idea, maybe a plant in a pot so its easy to lift out, but otherwise covered on the surface by moss or other covering.

For years I've used the open space under my nightstand -- pulling out the bottom drawer shows an open space underneath.  Some quality dressers have a thin wood panel which could be cut out for a fall bottom.  Burglars open drawers searching but seldom would go beyond that (unless they read this).

I also have a false riser right in the middle of my formal dinning room table, basically a box without a bottom, that look like it is part of the table decoration.  Expensive silver items and other items get stored there.  A runner and other items sit on top and around it so it is less obvious.

Sometimes storing right out in front of everyone is the safest place.

CancriGuardian,
Thanks for sharing the ideas. I feel we should all invest in some fake stuff to hide things... especially when the process of building is going on and you want to have some stuff there.

CancriGuardian and All:
I suppose I would want to have a separate, buried storage room or bin made of steel - reinforced cement.
I would want it connected to or perhaps underneath the buried dome. Easy access to food water and supplies.  Note: When I get the survival spot the first thing I will do is have someone doze out a couple spots, set off away from the highway.  Set down an impromptu shelter and also
a place to drive a vehicle down into-  to hide. A ramp down. Goes up at the other end. Far enough down of a little dip that the vehicle could not be easily seen "in silhouette," if it's flat, open country. 
I figure I will end up with open flat land or perhaos some badlands with rocks in a plateu area. Hardly a tree. No river to overflow and flood.
The ideas is: Less stuff to fuel a major fire. (NOTE: There will be forest fires and grass fires in many places on the earth, if the PX scenario
happens in a certain way, with meteorites, big lightning strikes, etc.)

Also a buried shelter for supplies. Keeping a low profile as much as possible. I figure most people will have to make several trips out to a location perhaps alone or with one person. Important to put a stash of things there and at least some shelter in case the earth changes
happen in an inconvenient time frame -before everything is done. Something done is better than nothing done.

Once things are getting organized:
In a separate buried area, I would have one for gasoline for vehicles. This could maybe be one of those smallish steel rooms from containers.
I recommend putting a few wooden braces to reinforce the corners and walls. Even steel containers could possibly bend and crumple in places due to earth movements. All we can predict is all hades will probably break loose for awhile so may as well brace and reinforce everything as much as possible.

I would have one of these too, separate location for propane, etc. 
Not having the exact technology of handling things so they do not explode - especially during earth movements - I would want to put these
fuel areas set away from the main shelter for people.  Anything, any item I felt would be a hazard I would separate out from the living quarters.

Another idea I had which was posted before in a few places: 
A padded storage area needs to be created. Glass or plastic storage jars - anything breakable could weather the changes  (I feel)
if they were set down in a cement box - with styrofoam and newspapers etc.
There should be a grid pattern made of wood.
Some space and some "give" in the amount of space for items in case of earth movements. 
Lining the compartments would be paper, plastic bags, styrofoam to "pad" the things you are storing.
This should be set down in the floor of the dome
Food and water and supplies need to be accessed by the group without going to a separate location for things.
Whatever cooking setup there is needs to be as non hazardous as possible.
NOTE:  I have posted before, and recomended that each member of the group start out with a knapsack of drinks and snacks to start out with in case the earth movements, weather and so on going on outside and all the changes makes it a little hard to function in the beginning.
Everyone should sit down or lay down and just have an easy to drink beverage with a built in straw, during the worst of the events.  Assuming the structure holds up [other Topics on this{ there still culd be earth movement and things falling down etc.
I feel whoever is setting it up and in charge needs to have things ready and this includes prepared baby bottles you just open up. It has to be ready, ready and
at hand for that time when the outside doors and hatches get closed and the outside conditions are impossible to survive. (Will such a day come? I cannot say for sure, I believe that day will come.)

There has been a lot of discussion about how glass jars would break but glass is still the best container for canned goods.
Food can be put into sterilized glass and properly sealed. (Regular canning procedure.) It is non toxic, washable, sterilizable and reusable. 
Also a lot of foods come mainly in glass jars.

Regarding the water bottles the idea is to have lots and lots of water and there might not be time to be too fancy schmancy about the containers so if plastic is all
there is, then the storage containers need to protect that plastic.

I know there are probably better solutions but plastic is easy to grab and haul and throw in the storage area.
Sometimes the quickest way will work precautions need to be taken to protect the goods though.
The shelter itself should be reinforced and I feel the dome is strongest. Dome at least partially buried.

Hope this was not too long.  Some of this overlaps other Topics like setting up the encampment... but it all relates to storage.

- Yowbarb
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on July 16, 2010, 10:10:14 AM
P.S. Re my earlier post, some of my ideas on the initial actions in setting something up on the survival land. One thought I had was, early on, when the land is purchased and the person is making trips out there, solo or with 1 or 2 people -  to keep a low profile. Even if it is isolated there could be a highway nearby in fact that is likely. I had the idea to have a dozer out there first to dig down two three spots, in an area set back from the hwy. One would be like a little short road down and up. A dip set down far enough for a vehicle to drive down and stop in the middle.  The idea is to be less visible, in silhouette, and provide some modicum of security in trips out there.
Here is the P.S. Two things I didn't mention in the other post:
1) There needs to at least be some gravel. Or it would be a mud pit. Idea is to pave the little section of road if possible.
2) Have a flat spot in the middle, big enough for a camper and to easily get in and out of the thing.

So that is one doze job. Also there needs to be a couple dugouts for supplies, to set a shed down into or a cement container with an entrance at top or whatever will work, but it needs to be lockable and preferably hidden. It has to be hidden, in fact. Whatever tumbleweed or fake bushes you have to fasten on there, do it.
That way every time a person drives all the way out there he can at least take some supplies there and leave them.  And be reasonably sure they will still be there when he gets back.
All The Best,
Yowbarb 
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Deathanyl on August 03, 2010, 06:56:53 PM
Like the fake rock's folks and there very easy to make your own in both hard weather and totally decorative types.  fake rocks r a fav for what i call re-lay points from my home to my survival camp, i have two that have some provisions and supplies a few hundred km's on my trail, because they r to be left long term i made the sealed type, but some can be open bottom, or hinged like that pic, i also liked some of the other ideas, hidden rooms and doors is a specialty i used to offer on contracting.

Start with chicken wire fine gage and shape your bolder, you can use thin hollow tubing or wood as the base./ frame if hinged.

2. cover bolder with paper machete... as in flower/ water and newspaper, do this until rock is formed, make punches and dents in it so it looks natural in shape.

3. once dry, coat in a primer spray bomb, this will keep machete from becoming moist again., then once dry use cement sand with more sand to water then bag recommends till it's as thick as tooth paste. then brush it on the rock, now to get rock hard enough to stand on, you should do a few 4-6 coats of this let each coat dry. on last coat it is time to put in rock grain!

4. choose a rock common to the area's type and have 2-3 of the decorative rock finish spray cans, the kind that r used for decorative work, there enamel so will stick, getting a rock type like others on your land may be tricky, but can normally be ordered. for pours use a compressor even a crapy 12v, to blow poor in one side of rock only if large, and then set with a non shine clear coat on tops sides to give aded rain protection, the whole thing depending on size mine standard was a 4x4 base so i could carry 3 in my truck, and empty they weigh bout 200-250 each so to be moved with a sling, I also recommend securing all supplies so they don't rattle if you turn rock, i do all sides including base, i lined my bases with old stainless tubs so there a bit heaver, but more moisture resistant.

So far only snafu is they can be detected as normal via a metal detector, even with out the stainless bottom.

I' have also made some with a top door that opens on a hydralic and has other machinerey inside, .

 Personally i find some machines can be used as more reliable guards and assistants then fellow humans, and they won't need food out of your supplies. with the low cost of pager cellular camera tech, and the advancement of photo/ video messaging on cell phones if your base/ survival spot is in a good cellular region today then that could be how you can keep an eye on such distant places, where you plan to make a stand. cause how awful would it be to get there after a biter long struggle to find nothing, all your cashe raided, or even b4 chaos...

now that cellular network will no longer keep your eye on the place once Chaos comes, but the machines to guard your cashes, could still be keeping other stragglers from getting your goodies during foraging.

 Some simple but easy machines r the electrifying doors and metal on the property all charged by solar power on the site, or mechanized traps. to even simple ones like fish hooks in the trees, or leg traps in floors under windows/ entry points, and spiked pits along common entry ways to slow users.



Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Alfred Williams on August 04, 2010, 11:51:32 AM
Until the tsunami I felt comfortable with a safe room mentality but now I know The land will be scoured beyond recognition so I will secure stuff and take flight. Question is when to move and where to. I am too low to be safe. Good Luck to all{{:>)
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Deathanyl on August 04, 2010, 02:46:12 PM
Use high ground to make stashes and you can anchor items in water tight barrels under the water, they should weather any common natural disaster. and can be scooba'd for later old smugglers trick!
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Linda on August 04, 2010, 03:47:45 PM
Lots of great ideas from everyone, and yes if we have tsunamis that could cause a big problem for our stashes. That is why we have to try and locate  ourselves on higher elevations. Thanks for everyone's imput.

Linda
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: reborn69leo on August 28, 2010, 04:10:46 PM
I know this thread is about storing supplies and necessities, currently I am storing food and camping supplies in big plastic totes that have everything in them that can easily be moved from home to vehicle or even buried underground if necessary.  The totes are taped up and sealed with silicone.  They can easily be moved across water by floating them.  I suppose my biggest issue is how far up to be and which locations are better.  (We currently live in a city in central CA, two hours from the Sierra Nevada's or two hours from the coastline.)  My family thinks I am crazy and are not on board with all of this, because we live in California it is easy to store food and supplies "in the case of an earthquake or other disaster".  However, I really feel the urge to move out of California.   :)
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Deathanyl on August 29, 2010, 10:34:17 AM
you do 4 sure!!! best of luck with the move. Personally i tell folks the majority of the west will be ruined either from shore based water attacks, or from the massive volcano in yellowstone, and it's 4 state big caldera which will collapse once the lava is expelled sinking theses 4 states and all the folks foolish enough to be there. And the gulf states will also be washed clean, maybe sooner if the shelf collapses (thanks BP) So if your talking staying in america you reall have to go into the heart land or the Eastern Mountains.

It's hard to tell family and others of why your moving, so don't as it just opens you up to ridicule, I'd find a place you want to relocate to and do the internet job hunting thing there, get a gig, then move, outwardly it's to move to a less crowded area and you have a new job, this will allow you to build in secret, and without nay-sayers giving you doubt! Then once it's visible in the sky contact those back home you care about and see if they want to come visit, if they do, then tell them and save them at the same time, if they don't then you did what you can and as long as you have a few pics and your memories it's not your fault that is all that remains of them in the time after.
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Icon on August 29, 2010, 02:20:49 PM
Will add my 2 cents here. If things unfold as the experts describe, from PX, and or a planetary alignment, 95 percent of homes will not exist anymore.
And storing enough food and supplies for a couple years will not be nearly enough. In my opinion,  you need a minimum of five years, and the ability to renew your food with gardening and raising animals after the disaster is past.
It could be several years before any agriculture could started, and then only in limited production.
Do not look for the government to help any, as their priorities will be themselves, and those they have chosen to start civilization over with.
Hunting will be out, as animal life will be severely depleted. If you have room and can keep a few rabbits, chickens and other food sources to raise, that would be a big plus.
I suggest if you don't have a bunker, and one large enough to store all of your supplies, filling water/air tight containers and burying or stashing them in remote areas will be a good idea.
If this area is not one you will be at during the flyby/alignment, it needs to be one you will be able to reach afterwards, probably traveling by foot. It needs to have a water source, place to grow crops and easily defended.
Storing supplies is not an easy task, and the expense of doing so is sometimes as costly as the supplies themselves. Picking the right spot is even harder.




Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Ed Douglas on August 29, 2010, 06:14:25 PM
I'll jump in on this also, Icon. If you survive this mess, and want to garden, it might be best to have small gardens for a while, in the middle of high fields, so they aren't easily sighted. To maintain defense, you don't want anything visible that says "humans are alive and well, here".  Everything you do, will have to be done with great discretion. It shouldn't take too long, and the "vultures" will have either left the area, as there are no resources they could locate, or they died off. The longer time goes on without problems, the more you can expand what you're doing.  You might even try some gardening amongst the field weeds, as if the plants are growing wild.  Our gardens usually looked that way, by the mid season, as my lazy brothers wouldn't help much.haha
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: noproblemo2 on August 29, 2010, 06:23:49 PM
We have 2 large inside planters with live trees going into the earth so have started potatoes in them, so far so good. DH thought I was nuts when I did that, but likes the green stems now.... LOL
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Ed Douglas on August 29, 2010, 06:33:31 PM
Susan, you seem to have a good grasp of things.  ed
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: noproblemo2 on August 29, 2010, 06:55:51 PM
I'm sure trying that's for sure... Love reading all ideas here, as many know due to Dh's health re-locating is out of the question so my reality is to be as prepared as I can in place and hope for the best scenario.
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Deathanyl on August 29, 2010, 06:56:54 PM
Also learning how to grow with little to no sun light knowing which fungus is edible and how to grow with artificial light if you plan on having some source of power, a 600 watt metal halide light with one ballast won't cost much more then a 100 now but after will be invaluable, buy a few spare bulbs say 10 per socket, and 1 spare ballast, this little set up could keep you and up to five others well fed year round with greens. :o
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: noproblemo2 on August 29, 2010, 07:33:37 PM
We are solar elec. and solar hot water, anyone know how they may hold up during the solar storm that is expected?
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Ed Douglas on August 30, 2010, 08:22:12 AM
One thing on our side, is that the sun is 93 million miles away, and it takes most solar CME's and such, at least 48 hours to reach us here. That is enough warning to unhook and protect any electric or electronic components we can. There are no rules 'written in stone', on this.  A CME as big as they say, might get here much quicker.  ed
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: _cj_ on August 30, 2010, 10:33:32 AM
hi susan - as far as i am aware when a 1 in 100 year event happens we get massive charge which can be conducted though cabling - the longer the cable the more likely to pick up this charge - you will pobably be ok 99.9% of the time - if we do get a power grid spike, the power companies will probably have taken everything offline beforehand.

in the event of a power spike your circuit breakers should take the hit rather than your equipment

on the flip side - if you do get notification of a massive cme strike - it ceratinly wont hurt to shut everythng down

Regards,

alex

p.s - one thing to take offline is your computer though - breakers dont trip fast enough to save cpu's

Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: noproblemo2 on August 30, 2010, 11:02:01 AM
Thanks, appreciate all the info I can get here.
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Terigaddy on September 19, 2010, 06:24:46 AM
I've been a member of YOWUSA since 2000 and in the archives there are lots of excellent information on hiding your stash.

An easy one for your back yard or bug out camp site is to bury an old freezer and place wood pile or scrap sheet metal or even a small light storage shed over top.

For hiding guns and valuables in the house check the "kick board" under your kitchen cabinets.  There is 5" tall space there.

Velcro to the back side of your bed headboard.

Take a good look at your windows and window treatments. Do you have a heavy curtain?  Build a small shelf at the top hidden by the curtains.

Pull up the carpet behind the door, cut a access door into the subfloor and install a small cash box.

There are a million creative hidden spots in my house.
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on October 23, 2010, 08:13:09 AM
I've been a member of YOWUSA since 2000 and in the archives there are lots of excellent information on hiding your stash.

An easy one for your back yard or bug out camp site is to bury an old freezer and place wood pile or scrap sheet metal or even a small light storage shed over top.

For hiding guns and valuables in the house check the "kick board" under your kitchen cabinets.  There is 5" tall space there.

Velcro to the back side of your bed headboard.

Take a good look at your windows and window treatments. Do you have a heavy curtain?  Build a small shelf at the top hidden by the curtains.

Pull up the carpet behind the door, cut a access door into the subfloor and install a small cash box.

There are a million creative hidden spots in my house.

Terigaddy, good ideas especially the buried freezer. I am all for burying supplies out on the survival land and putting stuff on top then, too.
All The Best,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on October 23, 2010, 08:17:16 AM
This is from Above Top Secret.com
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298738/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread298738/pg1)
Hiding Stuff at your Home page 1
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For those of us who plan to survive by preparations-in-place, this is a critical issue. Even for those who have plans to "bug out," you want to hide valuables where they won't be seized in some sort of martial law frenzy. For all of us, there are concerns about crime.


The two main "ransackers" I think of are thieves and law deputized "bad cops."



First the criminals.

Crimewatch actually puts outs an excellent brochure about "securing" valuables in your home. You begin by thinking like a break-n-enter artist. Here's what they look for:

-a means of entry that cannot be seen from the street or neighboring windows or public areas. A basement or cellar door, a window covered by foliage, etc.

-once inside, thieves will seek check the following areas:

1. The master bedroom.
You can gauge a family's wealth by their master bedroom. Size of bedding, electronics, etc, will give you a good idea. Clothing and toilettries tell you about occupations and lifestyles.

-in the wife's panty drawer.
This is where the best jewelry is kept.

-the husband's sock drawer.
Usually spare car keys, safe keys, etc. are kept here.

-Under the master bed
Most firearms in the American home are stored under the bed. If not there, they'll be in master closet.

-The bedroom TV.
Usually has the best stereo or game system in the house.

2. In the Living Room/media room
usually the best computer. Maybe some illegal items in or near the seat with the best view of the TV.

3. In the desk nearest the kitchen
This is where you'll find a filebox or a drawer full of ID theft-worthy data. Homeowners policies, bank account numbers, credit card info, etc. Also extra keys.

4. The kitchen
Look for goodies in the freezer, usually hidden in a coffee can or other resealable container. Also cookie jars and any "junk drawers" in the kitchen.


Once thieves have finished in the kitchen, they usually reverse the route out of the home, picking up heavy but valuable things they spotted on the way in.


How do you thwart this?

1. put junk jewelry in the panty drawer. In the dark or in a hurry, most (male) thieves can't tell the good from the crap.

2. have more than one safe. Put the one with old ID info under the bed.

3. Put an old or broken gun under the bed. A thief will assume it's the best you've got--unless he spots ammo for a gun he hasn't found yet. Keep extra ammo elsewhere.

4. Keep the long guns in a hall closet.

5. Keep valuables, and the real firesafe in the kitchen, behind the soup cans. Unless a thief is planning to move in, he's not about to inventory your pantry.

6. Keep a coffee can with 50 bucks in the kitchen freezer. An intrude will assume that's all the cash in the house.

Good hiding places for money and jewelry:
-in empty suitcases in the bedroom closet
-in fake/hollow toiletry items
-in amongst the "guest towels"
-in hollowed out books (only if you have a LARGE library)
-sewn inside curtains
-under the backing of pictures and wall hangings.
-inside air vents
-inside lamps. most table lamps have an ornamental hollow section.
-inside of bulk packaging, such as under the plastic liner of a cereal box, or in a bag of rice, etc.
-larger items can be hidden inside a pot with a lid, if the cookware storage is relatively inconvenient; say, under the rangetop, or a low cupboard behind a microwave, etc. and there are a large number of similar pots.

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citizen smith
Yet more sound ideas Dr. 

In addition to your list of places, for long-term storage maybe find somewhere that you'd have to get rather mucky or go to effort to find:

1: Buried under compost heaps or under the veg-patch where disturbed soil wouldn't be a giveaway

2: Sealed in water-tight containers and stored in the toilet cistern/household cold water header-tank/exterior rain-water storage butt

3: The inside bottom of the kitchen waste-bin

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Title: Re: Survival survey: where do you store your stuff?
Post by: Yowbarb on June 29, 2019, 10:25:02 PM
Yowbarb Note:
Within this Backdoor Survival article are several articles about the places to stash, cache food and supplies. Follow the links...
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https://www.backdoorsurvival.com/cache-and-stash-points-for-preppers/

Cache and Stash Points For Preppers

Backdoor Survival » Preparedness » Cache and Stash Points For Preppers
Samantha Biggers  Updated Jan 28, 2019

Having all your preps in one place is not always the wisest idea. Some people may have no choice but if you can have a stash point then consider it. Also, remember that during a SHTF emergency you may want to create stash points.

Stash points help you spread out supplies. Even if your home or bug out location is raided, if you have items stashed in other places at least you won’t have lost everything. A well-planned stash point system can make the difference between surviving or not or at least make it a lot less hard.