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Title: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on April 21, 2017, 01:09:59 PM
Just the beginning..

Power Outages Coincide in LA, New York, and San Francisco! :o

https://www.inverse.com/article/30631-lax-sf-ny-power-outages

A series of subsequent power outages in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York City left commuters stranded and traffic backed up on Friday morning. Although the outages occurred around the same time, there is as of yet no evidence that they were connected by anything more than coincidence. (Really??)

Power Outage in New York Friday

The first outage occurred at around 7:20 a.m. in New York, when the power went down at the 7th Avenue and 53rd Street subway station, which sent a shockwave of significant delays out from the hub and into the rest of the subway system. By 11:30 a.m. the city’s MTA confirmed that generators were running again in the station, although the New York subways were set to run delayed into the afternoon.

The MTA and Con Ed are still working to determine the cause of the outage.

Power Outage in Los Angeles Friday

Later in the morning, power outages were reported in Los Angeles International Airport, as well as in several other areas around the city.

The outage sent frustrated fliers onto Twitter to comment.

    Major power outage at LAX.... I had to trot every stair... God has a way of making me exercise....
    — Loni Love (@LoniLove) April 21, 2017

    Power outage at #LAX B terminal. Just trying to get home :(
    — GSpizzle (@GarrettSpy) April 21, 2017

While the outage was an inconvenience, it does not appear to be as widespread as it’s San Francisco counterpart.

Power Outage in San Francisco Friday

By far the largest outage of the morning happened in San Francisco, where, as of 1 p.m., it appears that the majority of the city is out of commission.

    The @internetarchive is offline because of a power outage in San Francisco.
    — Internet Archive (@internetarchive) April 21, 2017

The massive outage is closing BART stations, shutting down traffic signals, and affecting office buildings. Residents and workers in the area are calling it “totally surreal.”

The San Francisco outage appears to have begun sometime around noon Eastern, 9 a.m. local time, and there is no end presently in sight. Areas confirmed to be even more affected include the entirety of the financial district, parts of SoMa, Richmond, Nob Hill, and Pacific Heights.

    I can personally attest that power is out in inner Richmond, Nob hill and financial district. Will post if we get more updates.
    — Richmond SF Blog (@richmondsfblog) April 21, 2017

Pacific Gas and Electric’s own outage map shows thousands affected and current estimates indicate that the outage is hitting up to 100,000 customers.

The outage came after a substation fire on Larkin Street, but officials have yet to officially cite the cause of the outage. Sources did tell Inverse that PGE is working to restore power to the city by 12:30 p.m. local time at the earliest.

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on April 22, 2017, 05:37:07 AM
Probably due to the weakening Earth's magnetic field ..

Total Chaos: Cyber Attack Fears As MULTIPLE CITIES HIT With Simultaneous Power Grid Failures: Shockwave Of Delays In San Francisco, Los Angeles, New York

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/total-chaos-cyber-attack-fears-as-multiple-cities-hit-with-simultaneous-power-grid-failures-shockwave-of-delays-in-san-francisco-los-angeles-new-york_04212017

The U.S. power grid appears to have been hit with multiple power outages affecting San Francisco, New York and Los Angeles.

Officials report that business, traffic and day-to-day life has come to a standstill in San Francisco, reportedly the worst hit of the three major cities currently experiencing outages.

Power companies in all three regions have yet to elaborate on the cause, though a fire at a substation was the original reason given by San Francisco officials.

A series of subsequent power outages in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and New York City left commuters stranded and traffic backed up on Friday morning. Although the outages occurred around the same time, there is as of yet no evidence that they were connected by anything more than coincidence.

The first outage occurred at around 7:20 a.m. in New York, when the power went down at the 7th Avenue and 53rd Street subway station, which sent a shockwave of significant delays out from the hub and into the rest of the subway system. By 11:30 a.m. the city’s MTA confirmed that generators were running again in the station, although the New York subways were set to run delayed into the afternoon.

Later in the morning, power outages were reported in Los Angeles International Airport, as well as in several other areas around the city.

As we have previously reported, the entire national power grid has been mapped by adversaries of the United States and it is believed that sleep trojans or malware may exist within the computer systems that maintain the grid.

In a 2016 report it was noted that our entire way of life has been left vulnerable to saboteurs who could cause cascading blackouts across the United States for days or weeks at a time:

Consider, for a moment, how drastically your life would change without the continuous flow of energy the grid delivers. While manageable during a short-term disaster, losing access to the following critical elements of our just-in-time society would wreak havoc on the system.

    Challenges or shut downs of business commerce
    Breakdown of our basic infrastructure: communications, mass transportation, supply chains
    Inability to access money via atm machines
    Payroll service interruptions
    Interruptions in public facilities – schools, workplaces may close, and public gatherings.
    Inability to have access to clean drinking water

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on April 22, 2017, 07:01:57 AM
Good Analysis From the WSO Channel ..

MASSIVE Power Outages - What is Causing Them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orGSf4qr79s

Max.


Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on June 25, 2017, 07:29:57 AM
Some great “Urban Survial” tips in this article!

How Well You Can Survive, Amidst Looting, Violence And The Desperation Of The Under- Or Completely Unprepared, Will Depend On Your Own Good Sense And Your Ability To Prepare Ahead Of Time.

http://concerneduspatriots.com/tips-prepare-urban-survival-bugging/

Whether you’re unsure of how to plan for a bug out situation because you don’t know where you would bug out to, or you simply prefer the idea of battening down the hatches in your current dwelling to weather whatever catastrophe may strike, urban survival and bugging in are two important topics that are quite worthy of consideration. Most people now live in developed suburban and urban areas rather than out in the countryside, so in the event of an emergency, many people are going to find themselves trying to survive in the concrete jungle.

How well you can survive, amidst looting, violence and the desperation of the under- or completely unprepared, will depend on your own good sense and your ability to prepare ahead of time. Aside from stocking up on basic supplies like food and water, you don’t have to spend a fortune to prepare yourself for urban survival or bugging in, either.

First and foremost, one of the most important things to consider is self-defense for yourself and your loved ones. If an emergency crops up or a disaster strikes, law enforcement will likely be overwhelmed or possibly disbanded entirely, leaving civilians vulnerable to criminals. Those who are clearly well prepared become immediate targets of the unprepared.

To mitigate your risk of being targeted there are some very good things you can do

Identify local resources ahead of time, including water alternative water sources for if / when the taps run dry.

Avoid detection by boarding over the windows, keeping lights off at night

Secure your home or dwelling as well as you can, without being too obvious and drawing attention from the exterior.

Whenever possible, try to cultivate a closer and more unified community amongst your neighbors ahead of time.

Maintain an unattractive appearance to your house

Finally, a well-packed urban survival bag (also sometimes called a get home bag) can be invaluable in case of an emergency that strikes while you’re away from home. Packed with slightly different supplies than a standard bug out bag, an urban survival bag is designed to help you survive an emergency long enough to travel from your current location to your home or to another suitable location you intend to bug out from.

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 11, 2017, 02:49:07 AM
Former Ambassador Warns 'The Day Of Reckoning Could Come Sooner Than Anyone Thinks'

-  Council On Foreign Relations Study May Indicate A 'False Flag Grid Down Scenario' Is On The Horizon

http://allnewspipeline.com/NKorean_Hacking_The_Grid_WW3.php

While the eyes of America and the world are now rightfully set upon North Korea's nuclear program after their latest inter-continental-ballistic-missile test was called a 'game changer' while it was determined it would have been able to hit Alaska, we take a look at what could be a far bigger and more imminent threat in North Korea's 'elite cyberwarfare' units. 'Elite hackers' who've already proven themselves capable of hacking into major banks and capable of bringing down nuclear power plants and electrical grids.

While US bombers recently carried out a show of force exercise over South Korea as detailed in this NBC news story while also carrying out tests upon their THAAD missile defense system, as we read in this story from the NY Times and hear in the 2nd video below, according to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, hackers have been targeting US nuclear facilities.

And while currently, a hacking group with alleged ties to the Russian government (of course!) is being blamed, we take a look here at why those attempting the hacking are more likely tied to North Korea (or those trying to blame a future false flag upon them).

As we hear in the 1st video below featuring Steve Quayle along with Alex Jones from Infowars, we should be watching very closely for a potential 'false flag' tied to North Korea in the future. Also discussing why the blame for North Korea's nuclear program in the first place could be laid directly at the feet of none other than 'Billy-bob' Clinton, we hear why we need to dig much deeper than the news we're getting from the msm on North Korea, especially considering the recent CFR study outlined below.   

“The EMP weapon, if it’s detonated high above the United States, can cause havoc from one end of the coast to the other, whereas a surface nuclear bomb would certainly be devastating to an area, like a city, but it would be limited to that geographic area, whereas the damage from an EMP could last up to a year and affect the entire country,” Yago said.

An EMP weapon would have the power to knock out the U.S. electrical grid, likely causing chaos among the population. Lights would go off, computers and televisions would shut down and cell phones would go dark once their batteries ran out. All electronic appliances that plug into power outlets would cease to operate. Water and gasoline could not be pumped, causing plumbing and vehicular transportation to shut down. Food could no longer be delivered to stores. Credit card readers and cash registers would not work.

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 13, 2017, 02:32:08 PM
EMP or CME Imminent? Government and FEMA Prep For The Big One! Drills, Executive Orders… Are You Prepared?

lisahaven.news/2017/07/emp-or-cme-imminent-government-and-fema-prep-for-the-big-one-drills-executive-orders-are-you-prepared/

Is a great evil about to befall our nation? The entire world is on edge and senses that something major is about to happen and one would have to be in denial not to see something is right around the corner. Our government has been preparing for years by storing up food, supplies, and ammo. Also, emergency red alert tests have been going out like clockwork, not to mention the media blackouts on the topic. What on earth is going on?

Could it be the fact that North Korea now has two satellites orbiting our country that are capable of setting off an EMP attack, at least that is the warning given to us from Peter Vincent Pry the executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security and director of the US Nuclear Strategy Forum, who told Joseph Farah’s G2 Bulletin that the satellites can be commanded either to de-orbit and hit a target on the ground or explode at a high altitude to create an EMP effect that would knock out the unprotected U.S. national electrical grid system.

If an EMP were to strike in America it would shut down life-sustaining critical infrastructures including communications, transportation, finances, oil pipelines, sanitation, food and water distribution, emergency services and more….

That said, are there any signs showing us that they might take out the grid? Absolutely! Back in 2013, the US Government conducted a power grid down drill preparing for the possibility of an EMP. Additionally, everyone from Janet Napolitano to the DHS, to James Woolsey have all discussed the possibility of an electrical grid attack via a cyber attack.

Not to mention the Nuclear Energy Regulatory Commission in their, NERC PowerPoint presentation, stated that one of the possible outcomes of an attack will be a “prolonged blackout…”

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on November 29, 2017, 02:45:43 AM
Good Article!

How to Put Together a Prepper Black-Out Kit

https://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/put-prepper-blackout-kit/

Years ago I put together a kit like the one I’m going to lay out in this book. I kept it in an old toolbox which resided in the living room end table/cabinet. This kit wasn’t my only strategy for blackouts as I had small flashlights stashed in night stands, kitchen drawers, and medicine cabinets. Actually, I don’t think you would be more than 6 feet away from a flashlight anywhere you stand in my home. I’ve been through many a blackout in my life and have refined my Blackout Kit many times and it changed very little. It’s no longer in the toolbox and I now have a boating dry box for all the gear.

My question is…WHY? This is a blackout kit is for power outages and not a general survival kit for major or minor emergencies. Use the K.I.S.S. method for preps, it just makes it easier. If you need an expanded kit, like a generator kit, common sense will tell you to have extension cords, suicide cable, and power strips. All that makes sense, but I would also be inclined to toss a flashlight or a headlamp in the top of that kit so you‘ll have a way to see what you‘re hooking up! Let me show you what I have done here as an example and use it for ideas in making your own Blackout Kit

Max

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on November 29, 2017, 09:57:14 AM
Max, I like how you have it all at your fingertips, so you don't have to play hide & seek with your gear!
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on November 29, 2017, 06:18:02 PM
Lighting does seem to be key.  No matter what the emergency, if power is out, and night approaches, lighting is the weakest link of all--it seems so many things still need to be done after dark and one lonesome candle just doesn't cut it for many tasks.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on November 30, 2017, 06:49:51 AM
We've been through so many extended blackouts here (up to a week), that there is a routine that we've gotten into.

We do most of our chores during daylight hours, as well as getting the evening meal (cooked on a propane range) served and cleaned up before dark.  The quiet time that remains between dinner and bedtime is the most challenging, if it is getting dark early.  We usually set up a lantern or candle on a coffee table by the woodstove and play cards and board games.  There are some really complex games that take hours to play that can be useful at such times, such as Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective (way more complex than 221B Baker Street) and Catan, but enough light to read by is needed.  One can also simply go to bed a little early and get a good night's sleep with the extra darkness.  If one is alone during a blackout, then it would be nice to be able to read, but hopefully folks will have others to pass the time with.  :)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Yowbarb on November 30, 2017, 12:59:15 PM
Lighting does seem to be key.  No matter what the emergency, if power is out, and night approaches, lighting is the weakest link of all--it seems so many things still need to be done after dark and one lonesome candle just doesn't cut it for many tasks.

ilinda, you have brought up a really important point...
There have been so many tops posted on lighting including really cheap inventions and jerry rigged things...but time to repost and make things clearer now.
I would like to gather them up...time I learned how to rig it up...
Also would be good to know 4-sure, what things to buy to guarantee battery charging...
I thought I had posted one ad about a battery operated lamp for sale guaranteed for 20 yrs... That would probably be 20 yrs of light, nighttime use...
Important to keep the leds going too for food growing inside.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on November 30, 2017, 04:38:24 PM
Lighting does seem to be key.  No matter what the emergency, if power is out, and night approaches, lighting is the weakest link of all--it seems so many things still need to be done after dark and one lonesome candle just doesn't cut it for many tasks.

ilinda, you have brought up a really important point...
There have been so many tops posted on lighting including really cheap inventions and jerry rigged things...but time to repost and make things clearer now.
I would like to gather them up...time I learned how to rig it up...
Also would be good to know 4-sure, what things to buy to guarantee battery charging...
I thought I had posted one ad about a battery operated lamp for sale guaranteed for 20 yrs... That would probably be 20 yrs of light, nighttime use...
Important to keep the leds going too for food growing inside.
Lighting is also on my mind a LOT right now.  Today I meant to call Kansas Wind Power, but will tomorrow, as the guy there has been a sort of alternative energy guy for decades, literally, and he said he rides his bike into town rather than drive, and has two "baskets", one on each side of rear wheel. 

My main question for him will be to determine if there is a very good, or high quality generator that can be turned via many different mechanisms--easily.  IOW, a bicycle generator might fit that bill, but maybe there's another generator that may be easier, better, etc.?  I have one bicycle generator (removed from bike) which will light a small bulb with very low-effort turning, as long as the spindle of the generator is pressed to the "wheel" of my yard sale manual grinder/sander.  I guess a picture will be worth a thousand words, so stay tuned.

Anyway, meteors, hail, bolides, clouds for weeks, can affect solar panels, but people indoors by necessity, could take turns turning a hand crank or wheel for an hour or two before bedtime.  After all, if old type soapmakers can spend 1-3 hours constantly stirring one batch of soap, then the same effort could be put into creating light at night.

The question would be, what is the status of batteries when your 20-yr guaranteed lamp is good, but batteries, questionable.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on November 30, 2017, 06:56:06 PM
I asked this fellow to make a generator to attach to my exercise bike:  http://pedalpowergenerator.com/shop-pedal-power/exercise-bike-generator/

Am still getting the hang of using it.  I got two of these batteries to alternate between uses: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYKQT98/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1   Reason being that these are lithium batteries and will drain down to entropy if not kept topped off, and conversely, can only be deep-discharged a limited number of uses, as is true of virtually every kind of battery except NiMH.  The only exception that I know of, for storage of unused spares, is the dry chemical mix kind of battery that doesn't sit on the shelf with the electrolyte already installed.

The bike generator came with a set of battery charger cables, but it might be a good idea to have a spare set.

P.S. The new owner of the generator company no longer makes the generators with a direct outlet - the portable power pack has multiple types of receptacles though.  The power pack is directly charged with the cables attached to the bike generator.  Also, because the large lithium batteries pose a fire hazard (lithium fires are notorious for being difficult to extinguish and for climbing vertically), I got a 20 gallon metal trash can with lid to store the batteries in when not in use.  Hopefully this may work as a Faraday cage as well, to protect them in the event of EMP.

(http://pedalpowergenerator.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/spin-bike-generator-power-system_emergency-dynamo.jpg)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on December 01, 2017, 03:15:33 PM
Thanks for posting.  Looks interesting, and please keep us posted on your progress.

For something really barebones, I'm looking for something that can operate with or without batteries. Batteries are NICE, but am thinking of when batteries eventually die.  Plus one might need power while "on the go" and unable to lug around something heavy.

Much thought needed here.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 02, 2017, 08:53:26 AM
Here are some reports on in-progress development of new magnesium batteries, which will not be explosive like the lithium ones.  Volatility is caused by liquid electrolytes that travel back and forth between poles.  Magnesium batteries will be designed using solid-state semiconductors rather than liquid electrolytes. 

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/01/magnesium-batteries-safer-more-efficient-than-lithium/

https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Renewable-Energy/The-Biggest-Threat-To-Lithium-Ion-Batteries.html

When these arrive in the marketplace, I plan to send every lithium battery in the house to a hazardous waste center...
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on December 02, 2017, 04:06:14 PM
Here are some reports on in-progress development of new magnesium batteries, which will not be explosive like the lithium ones.  Volatility is caused by liquid electrolytes that travel back and forth between poles.  Magnesium batteries will be designed using solid-state semiconductors rather than liquid electrolytes. 

https://www.engadget.com/2017/12/01/magnesium-batteries-safer-more-efficient-than-lithium/

https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Renewable-Energy/The-Biggest-Threat-To-Lithium-Ion-Batteries.html

When these arrive in the marketplace, I plan to send every lithium battery in the house to a hazardous waste center...
Magnesium batteries do have more appeal than Lithium. 

Backwoods Solar sells a variety of larger batteries for solar elec. systems, and the most fascinating are the "Silicon" ones which are still in testing, but already on the market.  Some have been said to be like new, after two years in storage, a practice not recommended.  They are so non-toxic that they do not require any of the special labels or precautions for shipping, plus they are not problem when dead, and carry no risk of pollution when disposed of.  Maybe they are a form of sand! 

At any rate, these would beat heavy metal batteries any day.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 02, 2017, 04:14:19 PM
Thanks for the info Ilinda - will look those up!  :)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 02, 2017, 05:38:59 PM
Still researching them, but so far they sound very promising.  The temperature range tolerated is superior to anything available right now in deep cycle batteries, it seems.  With what is currently on the market, you have to choose from either one type for warm climates or another type for cold climates, with little room for variability of the extremes.  :)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on December 03, 2017, 06:19:09 PM
I'll try to find the link for the manufacturer.  After seeing the silicon batteries in Backwoods Solar catalog, I inquired about various sizes and they (BWS) only carry some, but the mfg. in Canada has many, many sizes and types, but according to their website, BWS is the only distributor.

I did call and asked about several smaller batteries for lawn tractors, etc., and he said that BWS would carry them, but BWS said "no".  So, eventually I hope to find a source of the many types of this non-polluting battery.

Ok, here it is:!:  http://www.siliconebatteries.ca/

If anyone finds anywhere besides BWS who sells these, please post it here, as the Canadian manufacturer does not sell direct to the little guy.   Thanks!
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 04, 2017, 01:48:57 PM
The deep cycle battery market would especially benefit from this technology, considering that the average solar battery bank needs to be replaced every several years at a substantial cost.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 11, 2017, 02:38:14 AM
Catastrophic living conditions in Puerto Rico can teach us a wealth of truth about post-collapse survival

http://bugout.news/

What would happen if the grid collapsed? Many people imagine it would not be too different from what happens when the power goes out after a storm, with long hours spent in the darkness playing cards by candlelight. You’ve got a cabinet full of canned goods, so you’d be able to get through it, right?

More than a million people in Puerto Rico are getting a harsh lesson on what life is like without power and running water, and we could all learn from their experience. Three months after being devastated by Hurricanes Maria and Irma, a third of people in Puerto Rico still have no power and a tenth do not have running water. Those who are fortunate enough to have running water have to boil it before it can be used.

What is it like on the ground? The first couple of days after the grid went down were marked by chaos, with locals reporting that those without cash were unable to buy anything. 911 wasn’t available, and hospitals were having trouble keeping people alive. Only 11 of the island’s 69 hospitals had power or generators running on the first few days, which meant many injured people did not have access to life-saving and diagnostic equipment like x-rays, medications, and important treatment like dialysis. Some people suffocated after their respirators stopped working when the power went out.

In a guest post for USA Today, Jeffrey Holsman wrote: “…after Maria, we face hours upon hours of waiting in lines for gas that might not be there; hours waiting in bank and ATM lines for money that might not be there; hours waiting in grocery store lines for food that might not be there”

Many of the firsthand accounts of life there with the grid down echoed the same sentiment: It was much worse than people imagined. Dead animals were strewn across the island, sometimes in fresh water supplies, while mosquitoes multiplied dramatically.

Two months after the grid went down, half of the island’s residents were still without power, particularly those in remote and less affluent areas. The island still looks like a war zone three months later, and the original estimate of full electricity being restored by December has now been pushed back to February at the earliest.

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 11, 2017, 05:22:03 AM
Max, This is heartbreaking, and surely what the people of Puerto Rico have suffered will wake others up to the need to be prepared.  I wonder if any Puerto Ricans were well-enough prepared to get through that double assault?
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 17, 2017, 03:37:38 PM
Power outage at Atlanta airport causes 'pandemonium,' grounds flights

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5685347491001/?#sp=show-clips

A complete power outage at the nation’s busiest airport, the Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, grounded flights Sunday afternoon, threatening to cause a holiday travel nightmare for fliers across the country just over a week before Christmas.

Airport officials said in a news release the power outage has forced the Federal Aviation Administration to suspend outgoing flights and implement a "ground stop" for incoming flights, which "means that flights headed to Atlanta are held on the ground at their departure airport.”

“Literal pandemonium at the @ATLairport … Baggage claim stuck, passengers can go no where! Which means traffic can’t either. GBI and other law enforcement on site now. Talk about delays!" Ciara Leilani tweeted.

It's unclear when the power is expected to be restored.

Max
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 18, 2017, 02:28:40 AM
POWER DOWN | Timeline of the Atlanta airport blackout

http://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/power-down-timeline-of-the-atlanta-airport-blackout/85-500042992

POWER DOWN | Timeline of the Atlanta airport blackout
Here's a timeline of what happened on Sunday at the world's busiest airport.
Author: Tim Darnell, Michael King
Published: 5:04 AM EST December 18, 2017

An underground fire caused a complete power outage Sunday afternoon at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, resulting in thousands of canceled flights at the world's busiest terminal and affecting travelers worldwide.

Watch Morning Rush live, now. We're live inside and outside of the airport with the latest on the developing conditions.

"Georgia Power has many redundant systems in place to ensure reliability for the Airport and its millions of travelers - power outages affecting the Airport are very rare."   :P


Airport officials say the outage occurred at 12:55 p.m., and affects several areas of the airport. The outage was due to an electrical issue at a Georgia Power substation, according to an airport spokesperson who spoke to NBC News.

Here's a timeline of what happened:

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 18, 2017, 06:36:08 AM
The article links to another one, titled "What caused the power to go out at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport," which pointedly does not answer the very question it poses, burying the topic  in about the 10th paragraph and then avoiding the question altogether: "While Reed did not go into detail about what caused the fire he said 'there is no evidence to suggest that the fire was caused deliberately.' " 

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Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on December 18, 2017, 10:37:21 AM
A few years ago we were staying at a motel in St. Louis and just before bed around midnight, the power went out.  Well, no problem we thought, but decided to walk down the hall and get more ice or something like that. 

On our way down hall, with flashlight in hand, we could see people looking fearful, and actually coming out of their rooms (!!) to see what happened to the power.  One guy even asked us nervously, "where did you get the flashlight?", as if it would be an abnormal thing to carry a flashlight when traveling!

This was an accidental lesson for us and a reminder to keep in the back of one's mind that we're totally or mostly dependent on others when we travel away from home and even something as seemingly minor as flashlight, matches, blanket, etc., are requirements for road travel, when not carrying the "bugout bag".
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 18, 2017, 11:38:16 AM
Thanks Ilinda, for a good reminder to keep even a modicum of personal necessities in the car and in our purses (for the ladies).  Even just a few bandages, wet wipes, flashlight, a functional pen and paper, map book, clippers or small scissors, magnifying glass for detailed maps, a few antihistimines, tissues or paper napkins, a little trash bag, some coins, and a blanket in case of winter car trouble, most of which could fit in the glove box or console. 

Other items? :)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Yowbarb on December 20, 2017, 04:12:07 PM
A few years ago we were staying at a motel in St. Louis and just before bed around midnight, the power went out.  Well, no problem we thought, but decided to walk down the hall and get more ice or something like that. 

On our way down hall, with flashlight in hand, we could see people looking fearful, and actually coming out of their rooms (!!) to see what happened to the power.  One guy even asked us nervously, "where did you get the flashlight?", as if it would be an abnormal thing to carry a flashlight when traveling!

This was an accidental lesson for us and a reminder to keep in the back of one's mind that we're totally or mostly dependent on others when we travel away from home and even something as seemingly minor as flashlight, matches, blanket, etc., are requirements for road travel, when not carrying the "bugout bag".

Great reminder!!
From this point on, we have to keep a few such items always on hand...
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Yowbarb on December 20, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
Thanks Ilinda, for a good reminder to keep even a modicum of personal necessities in the car and in our purses (for the ladies).  Even just a few bandages, wet wipes, flashlight, a functional pen and paper, map book, clippers or small scissors, magnifying glass for detailed maps, a few antihistimines, tissues or paper napkins, a little trash bag, some coins, and a blanket in case of winter car trouble, most of which could fit in the glove box or console. 

Other items? :)

Good ideas...
matches too...
extra car keys...
registered carry   ;D
.......
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 20, 2017, 05:22:09 PM
Barb, Do you pack heat?  ;)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Yowbarb on December 20, 2017, 09:59:24 PM
Barb, Do you pack heat?  ;)

I have done.
Currently need to get another one. :)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on December 21, 2017, 11:09:28 AM
Speaking of "when the lights go out...", I had a relevant dream last night, so will post it in the dream topic.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on January 25, 2018, 12:04:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQmkEnA1-F4

Several thousand unexplained power outages in the Los Angeles area, perhaps due to the recent solar flare?  Puerto Rico also continues to have outages in the hundreds of thousands in the wake of last year's back-to-back hurricanes (see the red area).

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on March 17, 2018, 12:59:14 PM
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you ..  ???

Venezuela begins power rationing as drought causes severe outages

https://www.yahoo.com/news/venezuela-begins-power-rationing-drought-causes-severe-outages-193846729.html

SAN CRISTOBAL, Venezuela (Reuters) - Venezuela imposed electricity rationing this week in six western states, as the crisis-hit country's creaky power grid suffered from a drought that has reduced water levels in key reservoirs needed to run hydroelectric power generators.

The four-hour formal outages began on Thursday. But many residents scoffed at the announcement, wryly noting that they have been suffering far more extended blackouts during the last week.

"We have spent 14 hours without electricity today. And yesterday electricity came and went: for six hours we had no power," said Ligthia Marrero, 50, in the western state of San Cristobal, noting that her fridge had been damaged by the frequent interruptions.

Crumbling infrastructure and lack of investments have hit Venezuela's power supply for years. Now, the situation has been exacerbated by dwindling rains.

In the worst-hit western cities, business has all but ground to a halt at a time when the OPEC nation of 30 million is already suffering hyperinflation and a profound recession. Many Venezuelans are unable to eat properly on salaries of just a couple of dollars per month at the black market rate, sparking malnutrition, emigration and frequent sights of Venezuelans digging through trash or begging in front of supermarkets.

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on March 17, 2018, 01:44:24 PM
Am adding them to the prayer list Max, and linking back to your post.  Thanks for sharing this.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on March 23, 2018, 04:03:46 AM
Here is a good example of what a “small” space weather event can cause:

Tens of millions in northern Brazil hit by massive power outage   ???

http://www.straitstimes.com/world/americas/tens-of-millions-in-northern-brazil-hit-by-massive-power-outage

SAO PAULO/BRASILIA (REUTERS) - A power outage struck large swaths of Brazil on Wednesday (March 22), affecting tens of millions of people, especially in the country's northern and northeastern regions where the system remains "practically collapsed," according to an official.

The outage began at about 3:40pm (3:40am Thursday Singapore time) and had not been resolved by late evening, according to the country's state grid operator.

The blackout was due to the failure of a transmission line near the massive Belo Monte hydroelectric station, authorities said. Some 22.5 per cent of the grid's total output, or 18,000 megawatts, have been affected.

"That line was inaugurated recently and was not yet operating at full capacity," the country's mining and energy minister, Fernando Coelho Filho, told journalists in Brasilia. "There was a surge in power ... and the line fell out of operation."

The transmission line that failed is the responsibility of state-run utility Centrais Eletricas Brasileiras SA, commonly known as Eletrobras, and China State Grid Corp Ltd. Neither company responded to requests for comment.

In the country's poor north and northeast, the system had "practically collapsed", Luiz Eduardo Barata, head of national grid operator ONS, told journalists.

Elsewhere in the country the impact was less severe, he said, and service had been resumed in the country's southern and southeastern region's shortly after 4pm, where spotty outages were reported.

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on April 18, 2018, 03:32:23 PM
VERY scary story if there is anything behind it ..

Globalists Telegraph Their Next Move: An Attack Upon Our Electrical Grid, Attributed To Russia

allnewspipeline.com/Globalists_Telegraph_The_End_Game_Russian_Grid_Down_Chaos.php

- If 'Enemies Of America Within' Take Down The Grid, 'TEOTWAWKI' Would Ensure Americans NEVER Found Out Who Really Did It

In this April 17th story by Susan Duclos on ANP she reports the globalists are now herding Americans towards a single belief as widespread cyber attacks take down websites across the net such as Twitter: "The Russians did it!"

While the headline plastered upon the Drudge Report from CBS Philly was "Officials Warn Russian Hackers Targeting U.S. Routers", the Daily Mail reported on Monday that the FBI has just warned Russian hackers could launch cyber attacks upon millions of laptops, phones and 'critical infrastructure' such as US power grids, with a joint statement from London and Washington DC stating "Russian sponsored hackers are gaining control of internet routers worldwide".

And while most experts agree that a long-term electric grid down situation in America would absolutely lead to widespread chaos and 'the end of the world as we know it', the 'Russia did everything' narrative we've been hearing from the mainstream media ever since November of 2016 is getting quite old, especially considering they consistently call every-day, President Trump-voting, red-blooded Americans 'Russian bots' every opportunity they get.

And now The Hill reports that the US should somehow 'respond' to these attacks which are being blamed upon Russia, arguing that America must launch 'counter strikes', just like the entire 'Syria chemical attack' narrative. 

April 18, 2018
Globalists Telegraph Their Next Move: An Attack Upon Our Electrical Grid, Attributed To Russia
- If 'Enemies Of America Within' Take Down The Grid, 'TEOTWAWKI' Would Ensure Americans NEVER Found Out Who Really Did It 
By Stefan Stanford - All News Pipeline - Live Free Or Die

In this April 17th story by Susan Duclos on ANP she reports the globalists are now herding Americans towards a single belief as widespread cyber attacks take down websites across the net such as Twitter: "The Russians did it!"

While the headline plastered upon the Drudge Report from CBS Philly was "Officials Warn Russian Hackers Targeting U.S. Routers", the Daily Mail reported on Monday that the FBI has just warned Russian hackers could launch cyber attacks upon millions of laptops, phones and 'critical infrastructure' such as US power grids, with a joint statement from London and Washington DC stating "Russian sponsored hackers are gaining control of internet routers worldwide".

And while most experts agree that a long-term electric grid down situation in America would absolutely lead to widespread chaos and 'the end of the world as we know it', the 'Russia did everything' narrative we've been hearing from the mainstream media ever since November of 2016 is getting quite old, especially considering they consistently call every-day, President Trump-voting, red-blooded Americans 'Russian bots' every opportunity they get.

And now The Hill reports that the US should somehow 'respond' to these attacks which are being blamed upon Russia, arguing that America must launch 'counter strikes', just like the entire 'Syria chemical attack' narrative. 


Is something much more sinister now being planned by the globalists, something that Americans will automatically think 'Russia did it', with a false flag take down of our electrical grid now in the works? As Dr Peter Vincent Pry has warned, a long-term electrical grid down scenario in America could lead to the deaths of 90% or more of the US population in the following year to 18 months from starvation, exposure and everything else that will follow with 324 million Americans living on the infrastructure of the dark ages.

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on April 18, 2018, 06:21:40 PM
Our grid is so rickety that it probably won't require much to take it down, regardless of who does it!  :-X
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on April 19, 2018, 04:19:57 AM
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Our grid is so rickety that it probably won't require much to take it down, regardless of who does it!  :-X

Your right about that!!

Seven Months Post Hurricane Maria: Puerto Rico Hit With Island Wide Blackouts

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/seven-months-post-hurricane-maria-puerto-rico-hit-with-island-wide-blackouts_042018

Seven months after Hurricane Maria devastated the island of Puerto Rico, those on the island are struggling with blackouts once again. This latest power outage follows a series of outages in the months since Maria.

Just last week, half of the Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority’s (PREPA) customers lost power when a tree fell across a major power line. And in November 2017, San Juan and several other cities lost power at least twice due to a failure.  There’s no word on what caused this latest outage, with PREPA hoping to have power restored in the next 24 to 36 hours. According to CNN, PREPA is focusing primary efforts on getting power back to hospital and water services as well as banks and the city of San Juan.

According to Mashable, one spotlight event will go on as scheduled, though. The Cleveland Indians and Minnesota Twins are in San Juan for a two-game series and Wednesday’s night game will go forward as planned thanks to generators to power the lights at Hiram Bithorn Stadium.

Max.

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on April 19, 2018, 06:05:33 AM
I think we're long overdue to add Puerto Rico to the prayer list.  Will work on it this a.m.

Thanks Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on April 30, 2018, 12:54:18 PM
"Operation Dark Sky" is scheduled by agencies at all levels of government to take place in Wisconsin May 15-17, simulating a long-term power blackout, though power will not be cut off.  Police and other first responders will be in the streets going door to door during the exercise. 

Narrator also noted that late last year, a similar drill titled "Operation Black Sky" took place in the U.S., ironically just before Hurricane Harvey hit Texas.  He has requested that viewers from Wisconsin take video footage of authorities going house-to-house during the May drill and post them on-line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YSyGkvxSqw&t=4s
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on May 11, 2018, 02:52:09 AM
A good "wake up call" if one is needed ..

EMP Commission Warns Of Year-Long Blackout And A Massive Death Toll

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-10/emp-commission-warns-year-long-blackout-and-massive-death-toll

A federal EMP commission report warns that even the smallest EMP attack on our grid system would down it for about a year, if not longer.  A year-long blackout would certainly be coupled with a massive death toll that would devastate entire populations.

The so-called EMP Commission report said that this threat is very real, jeopardizes “modern civilization,” and would set back living conditions to those last seen in the 1800s. As a result of the chaos, millions would likely die, according to the report titled “Assessing the Threat from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP),” from the recently re-established Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack.

    “The United States — and modern civilization more generally — faces a present and continuing existential threat from naturally occurring and man-made electromagnetic pulse assault and related attacks on military and critical national infrastructures. A nationwide blackout of the electric power grid and grid-dependent critical infrastructures — communications, transportation, sanitation, food and water supply — could plausibly last a year or longer. Many of the systems designed to provide renewable, stand-alone power in case of an emergency, such as generators, uninterruptible power supplies, and renewable energy grid components, are also vulnerable to EMP attack,” said the 27-page report.

    “A long-term outage owing to EMP could disable most critical supply chains, leaving the U.S. population living in conditions similar to centuries past, prior to the advent of electric power,” said the July 2017 report provided Secrets.

    “In the 1800s, the U.S. population was less than 60 million, and those people had many skills and assets necessary for survival without today’s infrastructure. An extended blackout today could result in the death of a large fraction of the American people through the effects of societal collapse, disease, and starvation,” added the executive summary.

Three reports on the issue of an EMP attack have been declassified by the Pentagon and seven more are awaiting clearance. Among those declassified documents, was a report from Peter Vincent Pry, who served on a prior EMP Commission and is executive director of the Task Force on National and Homeland Security, spelling out the human toll of an EMP attack on the electric grid. He also advises the current commission.

In “Life Without Electricity,” he said the results would be horrific for most, as the vast majority of Americans have virtually no survival skills. He believes the whole year would look something like this:

    Social Disorder: Looting requires a dusk to dawn curfew for those not wanting to risk their lives. People become refugees as they flee powerless homes. The workforce becomes differently employed at scavenging for the basics, including water, food, and shelter.

    Communications: No TV, radio, or phone service.

    Transportation: Gas pumps will be inoperable. Failure of signal lights and street lights would impede traffic and all traffic would cease after dark, but not many would even have a functioning vehicle anyway. No mass transit metro service and all airlines will be stopped.

    Water and Food: There will be no running water. Stoves and refrigerators will be inoperable. People will have to melt snow, boil water, and cook over open fires. Local food supplies will be exhausted. Most stores will close due to the blackout.

    Energy: Oil and natural gas flows will stop.

    Emergency Medical: Hospitals will have to operate in the dark. Patients on dialysis and other life support will be threatened. Medications administered and babies will be born by flashlight.

    Death and Injury: Casualties from exposure, carbon dioxide poisoning, and house fires increase.

All of these should be kept in mind when prepping for the worst.

Since it’s hard to take that first step and prepare, especially for a year-long power grid failure, a handy guide we’ve often suggested is called The Prepper’s Blueprint.  Written by Tess Pennigton, it’ll walk the reader through a prepping regimen with a guide and easy to follow instructions.  It’ll give beginning preppers a foundation to build on.

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on May 11, 2018, 05:24:49 AM
I wonder whether blackouts would happen simultaneously everywhere at once, or if there might be roving blackouts enabling people in various locations access to some fuel, food and other supplies, however unreliably?

Also, it seems that earth changes may be accompanied by new, perhaps volatile, energy sources that could be harnessed, if only we knew how with any degree of safety.  Examples would be polar plasma streams, awakening geothermal fields, surfacing magma, new bodies of water, higher winds, etc.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on May 11, 2018, 08:26:28 PM
I wonder whether blackouts would happen simultaneously everywhere at once, or if there might be roving blackouts enabling people in various locations access to some fuel, food and other supplies, however unreliably?

Also, it seems that earth changes may be accompanied by new, perhaps volatile, energy sources that could be harnessed, if only we knew how with any degree of safety.  Examples would be polar plasma streams, awakening geothermal fields, surfacing magma, new bodies of water, higher winds, etc.  Thoughts?
I'm no expert in this stuff, not even rated at amateur level, but it all reminds me of the warnings we've all seen about the DANGER of opening an old-fashioned TV due to the potential shock from the capacitor.  Aren't they sometimes capable of delivering, like 10,000 volts of electricity?  All at once.  That is the problem.  If only someone could figure out how to tone it down and have it trickle out...well, you know, like a battery.

So, the same would hold for some of these sudden pulses of "energy" from wherever--if we could only harness it without killing ourselves!  LOL
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 12, 2018, 04:14:48 PM
Why now we might ask??

Second Dire Government Warning To Prepare Now For 'Catastrophic Power Outage' That Could Last Months, Is Released
  :( ???

- 94 Page DHS/NIAC Report Embedded At The Bottom Of The Article

http://allnewspipeline.com/Second_Gov_Warning_On_Catastrophic_Power_Outage.php

Two separate reports, one from the U.S. military and another posted to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) website this week, have been issued on the heels of one another, warning of potential attacks that would affect the power grid.

In late November the U.S. military issued a report titled "Electromagnetic Defense Task Force," which sought to warn the nation that  "an electromagnetic spectrum attack may be a threat to the United States, democracy, and the world order," and supported congressional testimony that an effective EMP attack, could kill 90 percent of "all Americans" within one year. (ANP referenced and embedded that report in previous articles here and here)

In that report the military warned of nuclear reactor meltdowns, displaced Americans, civil unrest that would start in "hours," failures may include long-term loss of electrical power (due to loss of emergency generators), sewage, fresh water, banking, landlines, cellular service, vehicles," and that it could take up to "18 months or more are required to replace key elements of the electric grid that would be damaged or knocked out."

Less than two weeks after that report was issued, on December 10, 2018, we see that the DHS website has published a 94-page report by the President’s National Infrastructure Advisory Council, titled "Surviving a Catastrophic Power Outage."

The entire 94-page report is embedded at the bottom of this article.

In this most recent report, they describe the numerous "increasing threats" which could be "severe natural disasters, cyber-physical attacks, electromagnetic events, or some combination," and have concluded that "This profound threat requires a new national focus," because the NIAC found that "our existing plans, response resources, and coordination strategies would be outmatched by an event of this severity. Significant action is needed to prepare for a catastrophic power outage that could last for weeks or months."

The report describes what they consider a "catastrophic power outage" to be, with five bullet points.

• Events beyond modern experience that exhaust or exceed mutual aid capabilities

• Likely to be no-notice or limited-notice events that could be complicated by a cyber-physical attack

• Long duration, lasting several weeks to months due to physical infrastructure damage

• Affects a broad geographic area, covering multiple states or regions and affecting tens of millions of people

• Causes severe cascading impacts that force critical sectors—drinking water and wastewater systems, communications, transportation, healthcare, and financial services—to operate in a degraded state

The report calls the U.S. power grid a "prime target" for terrorists, and urges Americans to be prepared for up to six months without electricity, money, gas or even healthcare. It also warns "People no longer keep enough essentials within their homes, reducing their ability to sustain themselves during an extended, prolonged outage. We need to improve individual preparedness."

On page six, they described how they approached the study and where they obtained their information:

    To better understand catastrophic power outages and how they are different from previously experienced disasters, the NIAC conducted a scoping effort—completed in June 2018—to identify the key issues that would need to be further explored. A Working Group of 10 NIAC members led this full study, and formed a Study Group of subject matter experts to vet and validate the results of the scoping effort and provide a crucial input. In total, we interviewed more than 60 senior leaders and subject matter experts from federal, state, and local governments, industry, academia, and nongovernmental organizations (NGOs). We reviewed more than 700 resources, including statutes, regulations, reports, articles, congressional testimony, and prior studies.

Our recommendations seek to address the issues identified in two overarching ways: 1) design a national approach for catastrophic power outages that provides the guidance and incentives needed to take action across all levels of government and industry and down to communities and individuals; and 2) improve our understanding of how cascading failures across critical infrastructure will impact restoration and survival, enabling us to identify further actions needed to mitigate these failures.

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on December 12, 2018, 04:45:54 PM
Yes, why now? 

The entire thing is riveting for several reasons.  One, some of us have no confidence or faith in DHS, Department of Homeland Security, to do anything to assist the common folk, but rather it seems it's more about repression.  So, now this document comes across as if the DHS has personnel within, who are working at cross purposes.

What you have posted, Max, makes a lot of sense, so the obvious question is, are they actually preparing everyone for PX flyby?  That's my 2 cents, and of course they could not announce such a wild and crazy idea of some rogue system blasting its way through the Solar System.

So, they talk of "numerous "increasing threats" which could be "severe natural disasters, cyber-physical attacks, electromagnetic events, or some combination,"

They ARE warning people, so for this, I'll give them an "A".
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 12, 2018, 04:57:44 PM
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so the obvious question is, are they actually preparing everyone for PX flyby? 

Yes that is my basic "take" on it, so that when things "go sideways" as Marshall often says, they can lamely say we DID try and warn everyone..

Max.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 28, 2018, 08:39:08 AM
Electrical explosion, sparks light up Kenner sky for minutes Thursday morning!!

https://www.wwltv.com/video/news/electrical-explosion-sparks-light-up-kenner-sky-for-minutes-thursday-morning/289-bcb08793-1d52-4d41-be4e-2376ffa9d519
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 28, 2018, 08:51:38 AM
Whats going on???

New York night sky bathed in eerie blue light after explosion at Con Edison electric plant, that brought the city to a halt for THREE bewildering minutes and grounded all flights at La Guardia airport!?!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6534493/Dramatic-explosion-electrical-plant-turns-night-sky-bright-blue-brings-NYC-halt.html

New York skyline turned a bizarre blue on Thursday night after an explosion at a Con Edison plant
   
Bewildered residents took to the streets and shared images on social media after the haze filled the sky
   
Power was cut at many addresses across the area including the nearby La Guardia airport
   
Flights were cancelled for more than an hour after the power cut, causing chaos during a busy travel week
   
Officials at the Rikers Island jail were also forced to use backup generators when their electricity shut off
     
There were no injuries in the blast, the fire was quickly contained, and many saw the lighter side of the fire
   
The NYPD jokingly confirmed that aliens had not invaded, while others shared memes from sci-fi movies

The incident unfolded when Big Apple residents streamed onto Twitter, Instagram and Facebook with their clips and pictures of the blue cloud hovering over the city.

Many people were initially confused at what was going on, and questioned whether the lights were coming from a concert venue.

Some also reported hearing weird sounds coming from the blast site.

The NYPD then put the conspiracy theories to bed and confirmed that the blast had been caused by a power surge at the substation.

'Investigating a transformer explosion at Astoria East & North Queens Con Ed power plant,' the NYPD 114th Precint said on Twitter. 'Please avoid 20th Ave & 31 st.'

NYPD News posted: 'ADVISORY: The lights you have seen throughout the city appear to have been from a transformer explosion at a Con Ed facility in Queens. The fire is under control, will update as more info becomes available. Follow @fdny, @NYPD114pct and @conedison.'

Con Ed added said on Thursday night that it was working with the NYPD on the matter and would provide updates over time.

Initial figures suggested that only 76 homes may have suffered a blackout as a result of the blast.

'The NYPD and the FDNY are on scene at a Con Ed facility in Astoria where an apparent transformer explosion just lit up the sky over the city,' said Mayor Bill de Blasio. 'As soon as we have more information, we will share it.'

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 28, 2018, 04:28:32 PM

Space Weather and Power Outages

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFyGmii62LY
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 28, 2018, 04:57:02 PM
After watching several of the films, am convinced that this wasn't an ordinary power company transformer explosion.

So MSM was quick to say that it was caused by a power surge.  What caused the surge?

Eyewitnesses say that the flickering glow was located at some distance in the background of the power station, over the water.

Some of the film clips seem to show clearly a sizeable bright orb in the sky, and I haven't heard any alternative explanation for that. 

Still combing thru the films...
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 30, 2018, 10:29:50 AM
This is man made!!

Blue Beams Caught On Film: Take out Power Lines in NYC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8tJyXKTmEY
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on December 30, 2018, 10:38:35 AM
Mile Wide UFO Blew All Transformers in Kenner, Louisiana!

https://beforeitsnews.com/v3/alternative/2018/3654994.html

We are now getting much more information from sources on the ground in Kenner, Louisiana about what caused the massive damage to the electirical grid in the morning early hours of December 27th.  Charles Walton reports he saw a UFO that was over a mile wide over the city!   As you’ll see in the video he says he talked to police and every single transformer was blown up in Kenner!   It took 7 hours to restore power and I’m surprised they got it up so fast with all that damage.  My guess is they called in help from outside the area for parts and more linemen to pull off this miracle.  This certainly was a massive event and it’s been completely covered up by the fake news who only reported high winds causes an electrical fire!   Total lies of course as you see in the video.  Transformers blow and that’s it, the power is out.  They don’t keep sparking and blow up over and over again as you’ll see in the video. 

In the video above and in the testimony below, Charles Walton tells his amazing story!

“At approximately 1:50 a.M. myself and two other witnesses observed a bright amber beam of light engulf my entire backyard for about 3 seconds. this occurred over kenner, louisiana which is about 15 minutes driving distance from the city of new orleans.

Approximately an hour later at 2:50 am  the sky lite up bright colors of green, blue, red, amber, yellow, etc. at this time electrical sub stations across the area caught fire and also telephone poles were seen catching of fire. electricity was surging from pole to pole for miles all over the city of kenner! i went outside and observed multi colored lights in the sky directly over my house. i could feel a massive amount of energy in the air and we felt an electrical charge over our bodies, that caused our hair to stand up. the wind picked up and a powerful humming sound of energy could be heard over my house.

Above us in the sky were multi colored circular lights that glowed and moved in various patterns. these lights appeared to be part of a massive ufo that appeared to be over a mile wide! the feeling was so intense and powerful, that at one point i ran inside fearing for my safety. the end part of my video has parts missing for some unknown reason. what we witnessed last night, i believe to be something not from this earth. it was huge and extremely powerful! the occurrence was so frightening, i called 911 to report what i was witnessing over my city. it took about 5 minutes for 911 to answer my call, likely because so many people were calling in to report what they were witnessing in the sky above them.

i have a short news clip from a local news station here where people reported seeing multi colored lights in the sky above them. i will upload it here, but i just noticed that the news station has now taken down that video off of their website. the authorities told the news station that the multi colored lights seen in the sky above them, were caused by transformers blowing. i have seen many transformers blow, but what i witnessed last night above me in the sky, was lights from a large ufo craft! not lights from transformers exploding! these multi colored lights were large and moved in different patterns across the sky above me. the energy, heat and electricity in the air while this was occurring was extremely intense! the lights at homes in my neighborhood were flickering on and off for the entire time this occurred last night. you can see the lights flicker in a video i captured last night, i will upload that footage here in this report. it took the electrical company over 7 hours to restore the electricity to my neighborhood. sub stations, large wires, and poles were destroyed everywhere around my city! the wood electrical poles were catching on fire and burning all over the city of kenner!

what myself and many other’s witnessed in the sky over kenner last night, was a massive ufo that had large multi colored lights over our city. this craft possessed massive amounts of energy and it caused major electrical destruction as it hovered over our area. this was one of the most amazing things i have ever witnessed in my life! at one point i ran inside my house, in fear that i would be somehow sucked up into a large craft and taken away. or that i might be electrocuted while standing outside witnessing what was occurring. much of the evidence of what occurred last night is being taken down from news sites! but i captured some amazing evidence that i will upload here in the form of videos. i have had some interesting ufo encounters over the years and i have reported a few of these encounters here on mufon. but what i witnessed last night was the most intense and powerful encounter i have ever witnessed by far! this ufo craft was huge and it caused massive destruction around my city last night! i don’t think what occurred was intentional, but something went wrong when this huge craft came down over my city last night. some of the video footage you will see below is intense and shocking! i will be keeping a close eye on the sky in the days to come! what occurred last night reminded me a lot of the phoenix lights mile wide ufo sightings back in 1997.”




Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on December 30, 2018, 12:24:31 PM
Here's a film of several minutes of the blue glowing phenomenon over New York a few days ago.  A simple explosion alone is not evident from the footage, but more of an on-going plasma interaction maybe?  Note that the original film doesn't appear to be a looped clip like my .gif, but rather showing the event in a straight timelapse sequence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVkdSVd2-WY

(https://media.giphy.com/media/NPEVHBumFb4FqQtERR/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on January 02, 2019, 03:43:33 PM
VERY interesting article by Dr. Farrell on the recent power outages..

THOSE EXPLODING TRANSFORMERS AND 9-1-1 PROBLEMS


https://gizadeathstar.com/2019/01/those-exploding-transformers-and-9-1-1-problems/

OK, before I crawl off of the end of the high octane speculation twig today, first let me apologize for the lack of blogs between Christmas and New Years. As it turns out, my old computer completely died, throwing me way behind schedule. I had intended to do blogs (and News and Views from the Nefarium) but the computer woes intervened. In any case, thank you all for your holiday well-wishes to Daniel and me during our absence.

While I was experiencing "technical difficulties, please stand by...", so, too, apparently, was ConEd, the electrical power supplier for New York City. And so too, apparently, was Kenner, Louisiana, along with the 9-1-1 emergency call centers in several states. Needless to say, many people sent me various articles about these stories, most of which connect the two incidents (the exploding electrical transformers and the 9-1-1 emergency call center outages), that I have to blog about it, the more so since many people requested I crawl off the end of the speculation twig once again and I am happy to do so.

But first, a few versions of the exploding transformer stories, and the emergency call center outage stories:

Then, as the article goes on to observe, the New York City police department actually issued a joking statement that the flash was not due to extra-terrestrials. Indeed, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo also issued his own statement that it had nothing to do to aliens. As I read those stories coming into my inbox during the holidays, I had the impression that "the principalities and powers" were somehow eager to get everyone thinking of extra-terrestrials and UFOs, in spite of their other statements that it was a "simple trip switch malfunction". For those familiar with the Great Blackout of 1965 that darkened most of New York, and substantial portions of New England and Ontario, the story is familiar: UFOs were spotted over power stations and lakes that day, and the whole incident was eventually blamed on a fire at a substation and a faulty safety switch. So, I thought to myself, "they seem to be promoting, subtly, the idea of a deja vu." Even the well-known lawyer-former prosecutor-YouTube commentator Lionel of Lionel Nation got in on the UFO bandwagon, stating up front that it was UFOs and extra-terrestrials because the government said it wasn't:

I don't know about you, but I can believe one exploding transformer, and even strange electrical power line fires, and even a 9-1-1 emergency call center outage, but not all on the same day.

So what is going on? I'm not about to rule out the UFO connection, for there are other stories - as far as I can tell, not yet very well verified - that a large semi-tractor trailer bed was seen rolling out of the ConEd substation with a big "something" under a tarpaulin. Of course, speculation abounds that "they" were busily removing evidence of a UFO. But "they" could just have easily been removing the burned out transformer.

So, as the story stands now, that's my best guess. If we boil it down to a country simple statement, it appears someone might be beta testing the California fires playbook on a much larger basis, one where it might be necessary, for whatever reason, to take down any communications system that is relatively robust - like the 9-1-1 emergency call center system - to prevent any sort of coordinated civilian response.

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on January 03, 2019, 08:38:48 AM
Jon X Army provided us with an interview of a friend from Puerto Rico who had endured the power blackout in the wake of Hurricane Maria, which extended from September of 2017 throughout the winter months.

His friend was mostly positive about the experience, not in the sense of wishing it would happen again, but in the sense of how well everyone cooperated and how much they learned from it.

Presently, just months after the blackout ended, his family already has solar panels on their home, and he says they feel much better prepared should a similar situation occur again.

What was the worst thing about it?

Not roving bands of malicious criminals.

It was boredom.  And folks missed regular showers in the warmer months.

He explained that everyone reverted from electronic entertainment to playing board games. 

There was never an issue with hunger, as food was plentiful and people shared what they had.  If nothing else, they were able to eat plantains growing down there, he said.

This post in no way intends to downplay the harsh reality of hospitals having no electricity, etc., but the man's story does portray a very different picture than a zombie apocalypse.

Perhaps the experience of Puerto Ricans might differ from the experiences of others who have gone through being knocked "back to the stone age."  Maybe community life within the confinements of an island has a different feel to it than on the mainland?  Maybe strong religious traditions on the island made a difference, Roman Catholicism and Pentacostalism peppered with a syncretic mix of indigenous African religions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFZNiX9MXZo

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Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on January 03, 2019, 09:57:39 AM
Note to anyone involved in manipulating the weather or with sabotaging the power grid:

The Puerto Rico hurricane story ends the same way that How the Grinch Stole Christmas does:

The people, undaunted, became closer than ever.  The survivor interviewed in the above post said so himself.

Homework assignment to weather manipulators and power-grid saboteurs:
Go and watch the ending of the Grinch again.

You cannot stop our ascension.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sta2KzWVjW0

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Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on January 05, 2019, 05:46:29 PM
WSO posted this image of an orb with a hole in it over New York at the time of the plasma incident:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/2aFT2ze9Gwl3kZ1zRo/giphy.gif)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHvD-hxfEx0
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on January 11, 2019, 08:07:58 AM
@ around 55:20 on Marfoogle News, a caller reports that an area of Wisconsin has experienced a power outage in which residents were informed by the power company that it was unable to source electricity to purchase from a supplier.

Has anyone ever heard of a situation like that before?  It brings to mind the propane shortage in Colorado reported recently:
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php/topic,6728.msg108600.html#msg108600 

Imagine being a resident of a far northern U.S. state like that, and dependent upon electrical heat, with an outage that is not necessarily temporary or fixable...

(http://ontheworldmap.com/usa/state/wisconsin/wisconsin-location-on-the-us-map.jpg)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on January 11, 2019, 09:07:30 AM
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Has anyone ever heard of a situation like that before?

Haven't really heard of any thing  like that before ..
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on January 31, 2019, 12:37:57 PM
Good video for those who “aren’t prepared” ..

FSS Grid Down Short Film - The Unprepared

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YtGpkxZD18

Genre: Apocalyptic or Grid Down Drama For months, Kelley and I have wanted to tell the (mostly visual) story of someone who is not prepared. Or at least one variation of it. In our community, we know well that the scared and the unprepared will be led toward actions that as of this moment, they would never think themselves capable of performing. This is one such scenario.

 Warning: You will not find very much dialogue in this short film as it follows a lone wolf personality in a disaster setting. A man and his dog as they work to survive a regional grid down event. As you can see, the lone wolf wasn't wholly unprepared. He had some initial food, weapons, communications and lights. But was he didn't have, he needed the most as days turned to weeks.

We hope that you enjoyed this short film and more important, that it made you think.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on March 09, 2019, 01:06:07 PM
PX must be getting quite close (a preview of coming events) ..  :o

Sub-Stations EXPLODE as Venezuela Tries to Restore Electric

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/sub-stations-explode-as-venezuela-tries-to-restore-electric

Numerous electrical sub-stations EXPLODED in Venezuela Saturday as the failed Socialist state tried to restore electricity from a blackout which has now gone on for over forty (40) hours.

The photos and video below show the Sido Substation completely engulfed in flames:

DAMAGE

Over 100 people in hospitals are now reported to have died from the power blackout, as their respirators had no electric to help them breathe.

Venezuela's entire Aluminum production industry is DESTROYED.  Plants which melt the raw aluminum to be poured into casts, lost power and could not dump the molten metal.  As the metal cooled, it cracked the smelting vats; which are now just giant hunks of metal that can no longer be used for anything.

This is permanent destruction of a major industry in Venezuela.  They have no hope at all of recovering without external help. Since economic sanctions prevent such help, Venezuela is unable to bring that industry back online.

UPDATE 3:20 PM EST --

If you can imagine what an EMP attack would be like, this is it.

In Venezuela the phones don't work.

The ATMs and banks don't work, so there is no access to money.

The internet doesn't work.

The refrigerators don't work, so the food is spoiling.

The subways don't work, so there is no going to one's job.

The generators are failing at hospitals as staff struggle to keep them going and the patients are already dying. Respirators stopped working and those who needed them to breathe have died. The preemies (infants born early) lost their incubators.

Nobody can get the doctors on the phone.

The transport isn't working, and food is running out.

The water isn't pumping, no water from the faucet. Too bad if you get thirsty.

The schools are all closed.

Much of the staff with the expertise to fix the system have long ago fled the country.

The money that could be used to hire someone from the U.S. or someplace similar, to make the repairs, has been stolen.

These reports describe the terrible conditions in just Caracas — in the rest of the country, the situation is reportedly far, far worse. And yes, the result looks as though it's going to be famine.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on March 09, 2019, 03:41:00 PM
From this description, Max, it sounds as if we need to continue with prayers and meditations for the Venezuelan people.  One possible safe haven there that they might escape to is the Tama' Massif in the northern Andes, located in the state of Tachira on Venezuela's border with Colombia.  A massif is a geologically stable mountain that doesn't split apart during seismic activity, but moves as one solid unit, if at all, which you probably already know.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/ParquesNaturalesVenezuela.png)
Tama', on the northwestern border of Venezuela, is marked #26 on this map of the country's national parks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_parks_of_Venezuela

The highest peak in the northern Andes there is just under 12,000', and at the mid-latitudes there is abundant agriculture.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b9/El_Tam%C3%A1_visto_desde_San_Crist%C3%B3bal.JPG/330px-El_Tam%C3%A1_visto_desde_San_Crist%C3%B3bal.JPG)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tam%C3%A1_Massif

There are two national parks protecting the Tama' Massif: one in the foothills serving as a buffer from the rest of the Venezuelan plains, and one on the other side of the Colombian border buffering the Massif from the remainder of Colombia. 

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/Santa_Ana_del_T%C3%A1chira.png/640px-Santa_Ana_del_T%C3%A1chira.png)
The largest nearby town is Santa Ana, located in the foothills of the Massif in Cordoba Municipality.  The town has just one high school and is populated and surrounded by people who grow coffee and love football and mountain bikes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_del_T%C3%A1chira

(https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/farm-house-in-the-andes-of-venezuela-picture-id497583293?k=6&m=497583293&s=612x612&w=0&h=LF5KZzhA2VHi0sefwo-ElpVB-ETEioggSF9RH4cC4iU=)
A farm in the Venezuelan Andes

As an alternative escape route, Amazonas is the Venezuelan state bordering Brazil to the south that is furthest from the unstable Caribbean coast.  Rio Negro, located in Amazonas, is the furthest point away from the remainder of Venezuela and away from the coast in that area.  Lots of natural resources there, but also lots of tropical diseases and potentially dangerous wildlife, and it's only 213' above sea level.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on March 09, 2019, 04:40:33 PM
What a sad story.  I had not kept up with the details of the Venezuelan crisis, but it appears that most people there are between a rock and a hard place.  If they migrate, what will they eat and where will the stay?  On such short notice there may not be enough resources to sustain many of those migrating.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on March 09, 2019, 04:58:42 PM
Am hopeful that our meditations might at least get the aware ones to safe ground.  That would be a more dispersed population. 

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Jimfarmer on March 09, 2019, 10:33:15 PM
What a sad story.  I had not kept up with the details of the Venezuelan crisis, but it appears that most people there are between a rock and a hard place.  If they migrate, what will they eat and where will the stay?  On such short notice there may not be enough resources to sustain many of those migrating.

Yes.  Failures cascading thru a matrix of operations without firewalls and alternative resources.  Like in most other countries, including USA.  Bad design of the economy, and lack of maturity off the populace who should have elected representatives having knowledge of system design or the wisdom to employ knowledgeable advisors.  When will that ever happen?
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on March 10, 2019, 06:10:20 AM
Have copied and included the safe locations post in this thread over at "Prayer Thread for Indigenous Populations."

Have also included in the prayer a meditation hopefully addressing Ilinda's important concern about migrations possibly destabilizing ecosystems, which perhaps deserves more discussion at some point:

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...May their migrations occur in such a manner as not to overwhelm local rural populations and ecosystems within safe havens.  May the resources of safe locations be supernaturally stretched, as needed, in order to facilitate the inclusion of Venezuelans migrating from other parts of the country...
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on March 11, 2019, 01:52:42 PM
God your batteries changed ?!?

Looters take to Venezuela's streets as blackout enters its FIFTH day killing 15 kidney patients as under-pressure president Maduro claims the power cut was caused by an 'imperialist' electromagnetic attack from the US

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6793585/Venezuelans-turn-looting-Caracas-fourth-day-power-outages.html

Venezuelans started looting supermarkets in Caracas on Sunday, as power outages reached their fourth day

    Venezuela opposition leader Juan Guaido called for a nation-wide march on the capital to pressurise regime

    The country will enter fifth day of power outages after blackouts crippled infrastructure, shops and hospitals

    At least 15 patients with kidney disease died after dialysis machines stopped working during power outage

Some Venezuelans have taken to looting supermarkets in Caracas during the fourth day of blackouts, which have paralysed the country.

Pictures reveal that some supermarkets in the capital have been left ransacked by desperate residents as they struggle to find food.

Security forces detained a number of people who were caught looting on Sunday, with some pictures showing looters being piled onto waiting trucks.

Armed men were seen forcefully escorting young men and women to the trucks.

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on March 15, 2019, 05:12:53 PM
Venezuela Launches War Drill To Secure Power Grid

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-14/venezuela-launches-war-drill-secure-power-grid

Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodriguez announced Wednseday that phase two of the country's military exercises would begin as early as Friday.

Sputnik said local news reports show large-scale military exercises will start in 24 to 48 hours, will be used to secure the country's power grids and water supply systems.

This coming weekend, the military drills dubbed Ana Karina Rote are being resumed at their second stage," Rodriguez was quoted on the state-run television on Wednseday. The first stage of the drills, dubbed Angostura, was held between February 10 and 15 to practice repelling an American invasion.

The news comes after Venezuela suffered a devastating blackout that left the country paralyzed. The crisis started on March 7 with a system failure at the Guri hydroelectric power plant, which produces 80% of the country’s power.

Earlier this week, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said two people had been detained on suspicion of attempted sabotage of the country's power system, adding that Washington carried out the attack.

President Maduro said the blackout is an "electric war announced and directed by American imperialism

The blackout in Venezuela was likely Washington's new warfare strategy centered on creating as much social destabilization as possible before military intervention. We have reported that the US military is staggering troops around the Carribean and in nearby countries. With the second wave of war drills expected to commence this weekend, the Venezuelan government continues to prepare for war.


Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on March 30, 2019, 10:04:32 AM
Venezuela returns to 'Middle Ages' during power outages

https://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-returns-middle-ages-during-power-outages-143506671.html

Caracas (AFP) - Walking for hours, making oil lamps, bearing water. For Venezuelans today, suffering under a new nationwide blackout that has lasted days, it's like being thrown back to life centuries ago.

El Avila, a mountain that towers over Caracas, has become a place where families gather with buckets and jugs to fill up with water, wash dishes and scrub clothes. The taps in their homes are dry from lack of electricity to the city's water pumps.

"We're forced to get water from sources that obviously aren't completely hygienic. But it's enough for washing or doing the dishes," said one resident, Manuel Almeida.

Because of the long lines of people, the activity can take hours of waiting.

Elsewhere, locals make use of cracked water pipes. But they still need to boil the water, or otherwise purify it.

"We're going to bed without washing ourselves," said one man, Pedro Jose, a 30-year-old living in a poorer neighborhood in the west of the capital.

Some shops seeing an opportunity have hiked the prices of bottles of water and bags of ice to between $3 and $5 -- a fortune in a country where the monthly minimum salary is the equivalent of $5.50.

Better-off Venezuelans, those with access to US dollars, have rushed to fill hotels that have giant generators and working restaurants.

For others, preserving fresh food is a challenge. Finding it is even more difficult. The blackout has forced most shops to close.

"We share food" among family members and friends, explained Coral Munoz, 61, who counts herself lucky to have dollars.

"You have to keep a level head to put up with all this, and try to have people around because being alone make it even harder.”

Many inhabitants have taken to salting meat to preserve it without working refrigerators.

Others, more desperate, scour trash cans for food scraps. They are hurt most by having to live in a country where basic food and medicine has become scarce and out of reach because of rocketing hyperinflation.

As night casts Caracas into darkness, families light their homes as best they can.

"We make lamps that burn gasoline, or oil, or kerosene -- any type of fuel," explained Lizbeth Morin



Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on April 03, 2019, 09:52:00 AM
Look At What's Happening Now: Total Madness Descends After Grid Goes Down- Message To America, Prepare Accordingly

http://allnewspipeline.com/Happening_Now_Grid_Failure_Total_Madness.php

While we at ANP were happy to see President Trump's Executive Order regarding Electromagnetic pulse attacks, and addressing America's infrastructure vulnerabilities, we look to what is happening in Venezuela right now to note that it doesn't have to be an "attack," cyber or physical, nor a solar event, but simply aging equipment, and the location of the most vulnerable portions of the grid that would cause a "cascading failure" which would leave tens of millions in the dark for an unspecified amount of time.

......the bad news is the data is older and the vulnerabilities, aside from cyber attacks and such, also stem from aging equipment and out of date infrastructure, and worse yet the "more vulnerable links are located near densely populated cities, where there are a greater number of power lines that are connected to each other.”

GRID FAILURE LEADS TO MADNESS IN VENEZUELA

In socialist Venezuela's second largest city of Maracaibo, populated by approximately 1.653 million people, is in the dark, where "water lines, the Internet, wireless service, and telephone service no longer work." 

According to this Off The Grid report, businesses owners and security guards are kept busy fighting off looters and street thug gang members, as their hospital only has lights via their generators, in the emergency room, while the rest of the hospital is left in the dark, where business association president Ricardo Acosta, describes the scene at the hospital as "like something from a war film. Dozens of patients and their families were crowded into the sweltering ward, a few lying on beds, others slumped on the bloodstained floor.”

His description of the city as a whole that has been sent back to the dark ages, is "It was total madness.”

IMAGINE AMERICA'S LARGEST CITIES IN THE DARK

Starvation, lack of water, looters, gangs, where the "gun rules," as Stefan Stanford reported recently, empty grocery stores, in a city of over 1.6 million people, is described as "madness," but consider  the most densely populated cities in America, New York City, has more than 8.5 million people, with Los Angeles coming in second with approximately 4 million people, and "madness" would not begin to describe what would happen in the event of a cascading grid failure.

Make no mistake, preppers and survivalists would undoubtedly last longer than those that panic shop every time a snow storm hits, emptying shelves within hours, which generally are shown to be city-dwellers, convinced it could never happen to them, so they are woefully unprepared for any type of power outage that last more than a couple hours, and even then they act like they had to rough it for weeks.

While we are focusing on the natural breakdown of the grid, there is the possibility, which some experts believe is a probability, of an attack or an event that will wipe out the whole nation's power, but whether it is individual cities, states, or the country, there are some basic preparations that everyone should be making, not just "preppers," but every home in America, which will not only prepare them survive the worst, but will also help them survive even lesser events that take away their electricity.

BOTTOM LINE

Look to Venezuela, read everything you can find about the issues they are having and address the areas they are having difficulty with, such as food, water, even toilet paper, and use the example that is being provided right now there, to adjust your own preparations in the event that our own vulnerable grid goes down.

It doesn't have to be an attack, a cyber event, a solar event...... our grid is vulnerable not only to attack, but to a cascading failure which would leave us in the dark, as many in Venezuela are now.



Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on May 09, 2019, 06:40:13 AM
A Marfoogle News viewer from Cleveland called into the show live in order to report that a major manufacturing / distribution plant for large power company equipment has called its employees in the middle of the night to come to work, so that non-stop shipments to other parts of the country could be gotten out.  She said that as soon as each truck returns to the plant from making cross-country deliveries, it is immediately re-loaded with equipment for another delivery.

Drivers, after 12-hour runs, are being sent out again without a break (not sure if that is legal?).

The focus of these orders seems to be upon large electrical cables that would be used in completely rebuilding major electrical companies from scratch.

We are told that this is in preparation for a national emergency of some kind, and that it is power plants on the East Coast that seem to be most urgently placing these orders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32TPwlthT0Y @ around 57:00

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Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on May 14, 2019, 12:47:47 PM

Millions Of Californians Will "Plunge Into Darkness" As PG&E Commits To Cut Power During Wildfire Season  ??? ???

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-13/millions-californians-will-plunge-darkness-pge-commits-cut-power-during-wildfire


As a result of a new plan to cut power on high wind days during wildfire season, millions of Californians could wind up unprepared and in darkness, according to Bloomberg.

Now bankrupt PG&E proposed the precautionary plan after a transmission line that snapped in windy weather likely started last year‘s Camp Fire - the deadliest wildfire in state history. The plan addresses the problem of wildfires, but creates another one in the process: blindsiding Californians with days of blackouts.

This has caused some California residents to turn to home battery systems and alternative means of power in their homes. However, the number of these systems in use is relatively small when compared to the 5.4 million customers PG&E currently services. Governor Gavin Newsom has said that he’s budgeting $75 million to help communities deal with the threat.

Newsom said:

    "I’m worried. We’re all worried about it for the elderly. We’re worried about it because we could see people’s power shut off not for a day or two but potentially a week."


PG&E has already warned the city of Calistoga that it could cut service as many as 15 times during the upcoming wildfire season. The company's vice president of electric operations, Aaron Johnson, said this number will depend on how extreme the weather is. PG&E has also set up dozens of "resiliency centers", where back up generators can be brought to run essential services. An initial pilot center is being built near Calistoga.

PG&E is also looking at developing a small network of micro-grids consisting of solar panels and batteries which would allow a community to function after PG&E pulls the plug.

Melvin Hoagland, for instance, lost power for seven days at his home on the edge of Sonoma in 2017. All of his food rotted, causing a terrible smell that lasted for months, and prompting him to install a 9 kW system comprised of 27 solar panels and a battery for his 2100 square-foot home. His system is designed to power for rooms for about 8 to 12 hours during an outage.


Less than 400 homeowners had a home battery system in 2016, according to Bloomberg. Almost 10,000 units were in place last year at an average cost of about $16,400, including incentives.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on June 16, 2019, 02:49:59 PM
Got you batteries charged??

South America blackout leaves tens of millions without power

https://apnews.com/a29b1da1a91542faa91d68cf8e97a34d


BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — A massive blackout left tens of millions of people without electricity in Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay on Sunday after an unexplained failure in the neighboring countries’ interconnected power grid. Authorities were working frantically to restore power, but a third of Argentina’s 44 million people were still in the dark by early evening.  :o

Voters cast ballots by the light of cell phones in gubernatorial elections in Argentina. Public transportation halted, shops closed and patients dependent on home medical equipment were urged to go to hospitals with generators.

“I was just on my way to eat with a friend, but we had to cancel everything. There’s no subway, nothing is working,” said Lucas Acosta, a 24-year-old Buenos Aires resident. “What’s worse, today is Father’s Day. I’ve just talked to a neighbor and he told me his sons won’t be able to meet him.”

By mid-afternoon, power had been restored to most of Uruguay’s 3 million people. But in Argentina, only 65% of the nation’s grid was back up and running as of 5 p.m. local time, the national news agency Telam reported.

“This is an extraordinary event that should have never happened,” Energy Secretary Gustavo Lopetegui told a news conference. “It’s very serious.”

He said the cause of the massive outage was still under investigation and that workers were working to restore electricity nationwide by the end of the day.
A massive blackout left tens of millions of people without electricity in Argentina and Uruguay on Sunday after an unexplained failure in the neighboring countries' interconnected power grid. (June 16)

Uruguay’s energy company UTE said the failure in the Argentine system cut power to all of Uruguay at one point and blamed the collapse on a “flaw in the Argentine network.”

In Paraguay, power in rural communities in the south, near the border with Argentina and Uruguay, was also cut. The country’s National Energy Administration said service was restored by afternoon by redirecting energy from the Itaipu hydroelectric plant the country shares with neighboring Brazil.

In Argentina, only the southernmost province of Tierra del Fuego was unaffected by the outage because it is not connected to the main power grid.

Many residents of Argentina and Uruguay said the size of the outage was unprecedented in recent history.  ??? ::)

“I’ve never seen something like this,” said Silvio Ubermann, a taxi driver in the Argentine capital. “Never such a large blackout in the whole country.”
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on June 16, 2019, 02:55:16 PM
U.S. Escalates Online Attacks on Russia’s Power Grid  ??? ???

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-escalates-online-attacks-on-russias-power-grid/ar-AACV9BZ

WASHINGTON — The United States is stepping up digital incursions into Russia’s electric power grid in a warning to President Vladimir V. Putin and a demonstration of how the Trump administration is using new authorities to deploy cybertools more aggressively, current and former government officials said.

In interviews over the past three months, the officials described the previously unreported deployment of American computer code inside Russia’s grid and other targets as a classified companion to more publicly discussed action directed at Moscow’s disinformation and hacking units around the 2018 midterm elections.

Advocates of the more aggressive strategy said it was long overdue, after years of public warnings from the Department of Homeland Security and the F.B.I. that Russia has inserted malware that could sabotage American power plants, oil and gas pipelines, or water supplies in any future conflict with the United States.

But it also carries significant risk of escalating the daily digital Cold War between Washington and Moscow.

The administration declined to describe specific actions it was taking under the new authorities, which were granted separately by the White House and Congress last year to United States Cyber Command, the arm of the Pentagon that runs the military’s offensive and defensive operations in the online world.

a man wearing a suit and tie smiling at the camera: Gen. Paul Nakasone, the commander of United States Cyber Command, was given more leeway to conduct offensive online operations without obtaining presidential approval.© Erin Schaff for The New York Times Gen. Paul Nakasone, the commander of United States Cyber Command, was given more leeway to conduct offensive online operations without obtaining presidential approval.

But in a public appearance on Tuesday, President Trump’s national security adviser, John R. Bolton, said the United States was now taking a broader view of potential digital targets as part of an effort “to say to Russia, or anybody else that’s engaged in cyberoperations against us, ‘You will pay a price.’”

Power grids have been a low-intensity battleground for years.

Since at least 2012, current and former officials say, the United States has put reconnaissance probes into the control systems of the Russian electric grid.

But now the American strategy has shifted more toward offense, officials say, with the placement of potentially crippling malware inside the Russian system at a depth and with an aggressiveness that had never been tried before. It is intended partly as a warning, and partly to be poised to conduct cyberstrikes if a major conflict broke out between Washington and Moscow.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 13, 2019, 05:49:05 PM
More than 43,000 without power in Manhattan after 'major disturbance' ???


https://www.foxnews.com/us/nyc-power-outage-manhattan

A large-scale power outage in parts of New York City was reported Saturday evening, knocking out traffic lights, stalling elevators and limiting subway service.

Con Edison reported that more than 43,000 customers were without power in an area that included Midtown Manhattan and the Upper West Side.The Metropolitan Transportation Authority tweeted that there were outages at various underground stations.


Saturday marked the 42nd anniversary of the 1977 blackout, which affected much of the city for 48 hours and resulted in widespread looting, arson and other criminal activities.

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on July 13, 2019, 06:42:40 PM
It's good that you're keeping track of this and documenting it Max - someone should also add mention of the numerous other major cities and countries that have experienced blackouts recently:

Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay, June 16
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/16/millions-across-south-america-hit-by-massive-power-cut-argentina-uruguay-paraguay-brazil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_power_outages#2019

Zimbabwe, July 5
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/lifestyle/lifestylevideo/zimbabwe-experiences-worst-power-outages-in-three-years/vp-AADU8Kh

Venezuela, March 7-July 9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_power_outages#2019

Dallas, Texas, June 9-12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_power_outages#2019

Can anyone think of others?
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 14, 2019, 02:18:54 PM
This story (and what really happened) keeps unfolding ..

Partial Blackout - New York City - UPDATED WITH COVERT INTEL: This is NO accident . . .

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/partial-blackout-new-york-city

Electric power has blacked-out on Manhattan's upper west side, and five-hundred-megawatts of energy just STOPPED.   Numerous reports of no lights or air conditioning in the area of Lincoln Center (67th & Broadway) and farther north.  UPDATED:  This was NO ACCIDENT!

The full scope of the blackout is not yet known, but New Yorkers are NOT happy given the temperature in the city right now remains in the upper 80's.   Those tenement buildings will heat up very fast.


And with all the "diversity" living there, the smell will get raunchy fast, too.

Con Edison is reporting an outage for 19,739 CUSTOMERS in Manhattan.   Bear in mind that a "customer" is not a one family home;  it could be a fifty story apartment building with five hundred families. 

Now, a map from ConEd showing most (not all) of the outage)

UPDATE 7:50 PM EDT --

Now getting reports of transformer explosions and fires on 64th St at West End Avenue.

Metropolitan Transit Authority (MTA) saying power now failing in Midtown Manhattan; subways stuck.

 Because of the ongoing power outages, there is limited subway service into Manhattan from Brooklyn, Queens, and the Bronx.

UPDATE 8:24 PM EDT --

The official COVER STORY is now falling apart.  People are looking for the explosions and fires themselves and finding . . .  NOTHING:


Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 14, 2019, 02:20:28 PM
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It's good that you're keeping track of this and documenting it Max - someone should also add mention of the numerous other major cities and countries that have experienced blackouts recently:

Thanks for the additional update(s) "R.R" ! We need to keep an eye on this ..
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 16, 2019, 09:54:47 AM
We should really start to worry about this ..

Electric out in Washington DC - Unknown Reason  :-[ ???

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/electric-out-in-washington-dc-unknown-reason-again

Electricity is going off in areas of Washington, DC and power company employees are not sure why . . . Similar to the power outage which affected New York City over the weekend.

Sources report the outage is as far north as Trinidad and as far south as Stadium Armory, including Capital Hill.

They said they are not sure what exactly is causing the outage, and could not estimate when the power will turn back on. The outage map indicates they are hopeful it will be restored overnight sometime.

Developing, check back for updates.

 UPDATE 10:43 PM EDT --

All CCTV cameras operated by local city gov't and feds, OFFLINE in affected area.

All RADIATION SENSORS and Bio-Weapons Senors also OFFLINE in affected area . . .


Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on July 16, 2019, 04:04:35 PM
Whether the power is being cut systematically for some unknown purpose, or is a random or natural occurrence (due to astrophysical cycles?), it's happening at the hottest part of summer on the East Coast.  One wonders about deaths of the elderly who may be shut inside of a building without air circulation...
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Jimfarmer on July 16, 2019, 10:11:36 PM
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Whether the power is being cut systematically for some unknown purpose, or is a random or natural occurrence (due to astrophysical cycles?)

Rumors on the Internet are saying that power is being cut to facilitate raids to apprehend cabal members.  (Deep State, Illuminati, pedophiles, etc.  including the Clinton's property.)


Also,  From ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for July 31, 2019  updated 16/Jul/19,  at https://www.zetatalk.com/ning/31jy2019.htm
" Con Ed is having a hard time explaining the 5 hour blackout that afflicted Manhattan as it was not due to any failure in their equipment, though this was the eventual and inevitable excuse. This blackout was done deliberately by the Council of Worlds, in concert with a number of other steps taken recently, to show the elite that they are no longer in charge of human affairs on Planet Earth. Was there some connection to a similar blackout in 1977? For contrast, yes, as the 1977 blackout resulted in riots and chaos. This time there was calm, demonstrating that the public is spiritually ready to face what the coming Pole Shift will bring. "
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on July 17, 2019, 04:00:46 AM
Very interesting Jim!
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on July 17, 2019, 04:51:37 PM
Yes, as a whole we are better prepared than 40 years ago.  Many of us have experienced major transformation in that time.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 19, 2019, 11:06:46 AM
This is becoming more and more widespread ..

Update: Power might not come back on Downtown during hottest day of the year

https://madison.com/wsj/news/local/thousands-without-power-downtown-following-explosion-fires-at-mge-transmission/article_89ebfcd0-8a8c-5278-91bc-988ef36fd8ba.html


"Make plans for overnight in case the outage continues," said Madison Mayor Satya Rhodes-Conway at a press conference called to give updates on the massive explosion and fire at a Madison Gas and Electric and American Transmission Co. substation on the Near East SIde.

"Our top priority in the city is making sure vulnerable populations are taken care of, and critical infrastructure is operating," the mayor said.

The transformer explosion and fire Friday morning at Madison Gas and Electric's main power center on the near East Side shut down the area as crews responded to the scene.

MGE President and CEO Jeffrey Keebler said at the press conference that it wasn't known what came first during the main incident, the fire or the explosion.

"We had to turn off the equipment at the substation to fight the fire," Keebler said. "We are doing a damage assessment now."

Madison Fire Chief Steve Davis said it took about 15 to 20 minutes to get the substation de-energized, then 5 to 10 minutes to put the fire out with the foam.

Keebler said the fire at the second location was in a substation owned by ATC, but it was unclear if the first fire caused the second fire.

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 22, 2019, 12:47:50 PM
Thousands in Brooklyn still in dark as New York City deals with another power outage  ???

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/07/22/new-york-city-power-outage-con-edison-restoring-power-brooklyn/1792877001/

Thousands were without power in parts of Brooklyn on Monday morning as New York dealt with another blackout and intense summer weather.

Con Edison said that about half of the 33,000 customers in Brooklyn saw power restored Monday morning. Scattered outages kept more than 50,000 customers in the dark throughout parts of the city and Westchester County late Sunday.

Just after 5 a.m., the electric company said more than 30,000 customers had seen their power restored and that the remaining 21,500 would have it back by Monday afternoon.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo slammed the electric company Sunday and said he was deploying state police, generators and light towers to assist.

"We have been through this situation with Con Ed time and again, and they should have been better prepared – period," Cuomo said in a statement. "This was not a natural disaster; there is no excuse for what has happened in Brooklyn.”


Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on July 22, 2019, 05:48:24 PM
This is definatley  a new kind of “warfare” taken to a whole new level of sophistication ..

"Electromagnetic Attack" Sparks Massive Blackouts Across Venezuela!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-22/electromagnetic-attack-sparks-massive-blackouts-across-venezuela-breaking-report

Widespread power blackouts were first reported on Monday evening across 15 Venezuelan states and Caracas, as per a report from Reuters Caracas newsroom.

    Central #Caracas (#Chacao) right now #apagón #blackout #Venezuela pic.twitter.com/6Pvp3QdPPW
    — Adriano Mérola Marotta (@AdrianoMerola) July 22, 2019

Venezuelan information minister Jorge Rodrigues said an "electromagnetic attack caused the nationwide blackout" and power companies along with government officials, are in the process of restoring the nation's power grid.

Back in March, the country experienced the most damaging rolling blackout in decades that brought the country, already devastated by an economic crisis, even closer to outright collapse.

    "It terrifies me to think we are facing a national blackout again," said Maria Luisa Rivero, a 45-year-old business owner from the city of Valencia, in the central state of Carabobo.

    "The first thing I did was run to freeze my food so that it does not go bad like it did like the last time in March. It costs a lot to buy food just to lose it," she said.

    Wide spread blackout in Venezuela: States affected by the power failure: - Capital District, Anzoátegui, Aragua, Carabobo, Cojedes, Falcón, Guárico, Lara, Mérida, Miranda, Monagas, Táchira, Sucre, Vargas, Yaracuy, Zulia https://t.co/OAOOFyGl4g via @gabyarellanoVE #Venezuela pic.twitter.com/UkMxLKDUFJ
    — Liveuamap World (@lumworld) July 22, 2019

Netblocks, a civil society group observing internet traffic around the world, sent out several alerts via Twitter starting around 5:45 pm est. about widespread power loss across Venezuela that disrupted the country's internet.

The group said even state television, a key source of government propaganda, was brought offline.

Netblocks tweeted a photo of internet outage broken down by region:

    Urgent: Nationwide power outage detected across #Venezuela; real-time network data shows drop in national connectivity to just 6%; incident ongoing #SinLuz #Apagon #22Jul #ApagónEnVenezuelahttps://t.co/YoUArNw6KQ pic.twitter.com/A6vGNDfnpm
    — NetBlocks.org (@netblocks) July 22, 2019

The latest disruption comes a little more than four months after widespread blackouts crippled the country for about one week in March.

As of Monday evening, most of Venezuela's 23 states have no internet connectivity.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on July 22, 2019, 05:57:03 PM
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This is definatley  a new kind of “warfare” taken to a whole new level of sophistication ..

Or is the war narrative concocted to explain away electromagnetic interference from Px bodies, extra-solar-system / extra-galactic energy pulses, and/or GSM solar antics?
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on August 09, 2019, 04:21:52 PM
This is becoming more and more common …

A HUGE power cut brought chaos across the UK with trains, Tubes and traffic lights cutting out and a million people left without electricity.

Britain was plunged into darkness at rush hour with large parts of London, the South East, Liverpool, Glasgow, Wales, Gloucestershire and Manchester all without power.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9691385/power-cut-uk-trains-tubes-power-lights-outage/


Nearly a million people faced blackouts after two National Grid generators spectacularly failed leaving airports, train lines and Tube stations in turmoil.

Western Power Distrubiton, which serves the Midlands, South West and Wales said 500,000 people were affected, while Northern Powergrid, which serves Yorkshire and the North East, said 110,000 of its customers lost power. Electricity North West said a further 26,000 customers were affected.

The National Grid confirmed the system had been "restored" but energy watchdog Ofgem has called for an "urgent detailed report" so it can investigate.

A spokesperson said: "In any incident the priority is to get power restored to customers as quickly as possible. National Grid has now informed Ofgem that the system has been restored.

"However, Ofgem understands the frustration this power cut has caused consumers. Ofgem has asked for an urgent detailed report from National Grid so we can understand what went wrong and decide what further steps need to be taken. This could include enforcement action."

Londoners described "apocalyptic" scenes this afternoon after the country was plunged into blackness at around 5pm.  ???

Commuter Harriet Jackson said: "All the traffic lights were down, but there were no police present, which meant it was dangerous to cross - cars weren't stopping either.

"It was like witnessing something out of an apocalyptic film.

"No one knew what was going on and, given it's a Friday afternoon, it's the last thing you want to encounter."

Train services in and out of London, including Thameslink, Southern and Gatwick Express were also disrupted, with passengers facing lengthy delays and cancellations.

All services out of London King's Cross were cancelled while cops have been scrambled to deal with the fall-out.

Hundreds of people were refused entry into the station that was packed to the brim with stranded commuters inside.

Euston Station was also evacuated at the height of rush-hour.

Newcastle Airport suffered a blackout with travellers forced to use phone torches to find their way around the terminal.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on August 09, 2019, 05:21:41 PM
Max, I don't know about you, but I'm beginning to make a list of places where I wouldn't want to be trapped during an extended power outage, such as in an elevator!  'Course, I don't usually have a reason to be any place that has subways, elevators, etc.  :-X
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on August 10, 2019, 01:08:31 PM
"Any major city" is a good description of places where one would not want to be trapped.  Think of the times we occasionally visit a doctor, dentist, some required meeting, etc., and it can get scary.

After seeing one of the doomsday videos a few years ago, I decided never to ride an elevator again.   All it takes is 1 second for you to be trapped on whatever floor....
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on August 10, 2019, 02:09:46 PM
Absolutely.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Yowbarb on August 11, 2019, 12:06:55 AM
'Course, I don't usually have a reason to be any place that has subways, elevators, etc.  :-X
R.R. that's a good thing.  :)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Yowbarb on August 11, 2019, 12:21:12 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49309691

UK power cut: Andrea Leadsom launches government investigation

The government has launched an investigation into Friday's huge power cut which affected nearly one million people across England and Wales.

Business Secretary Andrea Leadsom said a committee will look at what happened.

Train passengers were stranded, traffic lights failed to work and thousands of homes were plunged into darkness during the blackout.

The investigation will consider whether the procedures followed by National Grid are fit for purpose.

Mrs Leadsom said the power outages "caused enormous disruption", adding: "National Grid must urgently review and report to Ofgem."

The Energy Emergencies Executive Committee, carrying out the inquiry, will also explore whether there were any technical problems, plus how well National Grid communicated about the incident and restored the problem.

Energy regulator Ofgem has already demanded an "urgent detailed report" into what went wrong and could take enforcement action, including a fine.

And the National Grid has promised it will "learn the lessons" - but added its systems were not to blame.

'We were stuck on a train with no food or toilets'
Why the power cut caused so much disruption
Major power failure affects homes and transport
The outage happened after problems at two power stations - the gas-fired station at Little Barford in Bedfordshire at 16:58 BST and then at Hornsea offshore wind farm two minutes later.

Blackouts were reported across the Midlands, the south east, south west, north west and north east of England, and Wales.

National Grid power was restored by 17:40 BST on Friday but there was a knock-on effect for some train services, which continued to be disrupted into Saturday.

National Grid's director of operations Duncan Burt said he did not believe that a cyber-attack or unpredictable wind power generation was to blame.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Saturday, Mr Burt acknowledged the "immense disruption" the blackout had caused.

He said the near-simultaneous loss of two generators was more than the grid was routinely prepared for, prompting automatic safety systems to shut off power to some places.

"We think that worked well; we think the safety protection systems across the industry, on generators and on the network, worked well to secure and keep the grid safe, to make sure that we preserved power to the vast proportion of the country," he said.

But he said the industry needed to examine whether these safety systems were set up correctly to have "minimal impact" on people's daily lives.

Shadow business and energy secretary Rebecca Long Bailey said the impact of the power cut was "unacceptable" at a time when National Grid reported £1.8bn in profits and increased dividends to shareholders.

Police were called to help travellers during the huge disruption on the railways on Friday, with delayed passengers stranded for hours.

Disruption continued into Saturday for some routes, with services to and from King's Cross station in London particularly badly hit.

Passenger Dayna McAlpine told BBC Radio 5 Live her train took nearly 13 hours to reach London King's Cross from Edinburgh - a journey which would normally take less than five hours.

"By hour seven things were starting to get pretty tense," she said. "People were threatening to self-evacuate off the train... Food ran out about five hours ago."

At the worst point of the power cut, about 500,000 people were affected in Western Power Distribution's area - including 44,500 customers in Wales - while 110,000 Northern Powergrid customers also lost power.

In London and south-east England, 300,000 people were affected, UK Power Networks said, and another 26,000 customers were without power in north-west England.

Northern Powergrid said the problems had affected Newcastle airport and city's metro system.

At Ipswich Hospital, a back-up generator which was supposed to supply power to outpatient areas did not work after the power cut, causing problems for 15 minutes before power was restored.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Yowbarb on August 11, 2019, 12:35:07 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49309691 excerpts: Video at this link

National Grid's director of operations Duncan Burt said he did not believe that a cyber-attack or unpredictable wind power generation was to blame.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Saturday, Mr Burt acknowledged the "immense disruption" the blackout had caused.

He said the near-simultaneous loss of two generators was more than the grid was routinely prepared for, prompting automatic safety systems to shut off power to some places.

"We think that worked well; we think the safety protection systems across the industry, on generators and on the network, worked well to secure and keep the grid safe, to make sure that we preserved power to the vast proportion of the country," he said.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on September 13, 2019, 04:33:15 PM
GREAT interview from Rt.com (at least someone is trying to get the word out) about what is about to take place ..

NEW: What’ll happen when Superflare hits Earth ??  :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFAi-ZDw7tE&feature=youtu.be

#NewsWithRickSanchez #QuestionMore #RTAmerica
NEW: What’ll happen when superflare hits Earth
157,061 views
•Published on Jun 18, 2019

Scientists fear that a super-massive solar flare could knock out Earth’s electrical grid within the next 100 years. Such an event would fry the Earth’s technology and plunge civilization into darkness. In August of 1859 such a “superflare” caused a power surge that melted the wires of telegraph centers all over the US. Rick Sanchez explains. Then geological and anthropological theorist Randall Carlson of Geocosmicrex.com shares his insights.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on September 21, 2019, 11:41:25 AM
Four contiguous countries in Central America experienced a massive power outage this past week:

(https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2019/9/17/f8b0bfb8dc1245ef90ed843ac89db0f1_18.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jsEnJiTBXU
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on October 08, 2019, 05:55:30 PM
800,000 Californians To Lose Power After Midnight! ???

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/800000-californians-lose-power-after-midnight

For millions of liberal Californians, especially those living in the immediate proximity of Berkeley, socialism is always and only the answer. And while we doubt they would voluntarily move to Venezuela to personally experience the fruits such a regime brings, especially in its final stages, nearly 1 million Californians are about to enjoy one of the biggest benefits of living in a socialist regime: lack of electricity.

Nearly 800,000 customers of bankrupt utility PG&E will lose power starting just after midnight as the embattled utility launches a (long-overdue) effort yet to avoid starting a wildfire in extremely dry and windy weather.

On Tuesday, PG&E said that it will proceed with the massive outages it has been considering this week, and adding 200,000 additional customers into the mix. Shutoffs will take place in every county in the Bay Area except San Francisco and will also occur in some of the far northern and southern corners of PG&E’s service area, reaching 34 counties, which means that San Franciscans will still be able to see when they are about to walk into human sh*t on the street.

Late Monday, PG&E released estimates of how many customers in each county the shut-offs could affect. The estimates included 32,613 customers in Alameda; 40,219 in Contra Costa; 32,124 in Napa; 38,123 in Santa Clara; 14,766 in San Mateo; 32,862 in Solano; and 66,289 in Sonoma. Updated figures weren’t available with Tuesday’s update that Marin would be included. A single customer account might be a residence or business with multiple people, so the number of people who lose power might reach in the millions.


Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on October 09, 2019, 10:09:20 AM
800,000 Californians To Lose Power After Midnight! ???
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/800000-californians-lose-power-after-midnight

Nearly 800,000 customers of bankrupt utility PG&E will lose power starting just after midnight as the embattled utility launches a (long-overdue) effort yet to avoid starting a wildfire in extremely dry and windy weather.
I don't understand the part about the "effort to avoid starting a wildfire..."  Are they saying that just having electricity flowing through the wires is conducive to wildfires?  Or is there something implied that some of us are missing?
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 09, 2019, 11:29:03 AM
The ZeroHedge article says that 200,000 additional customers will also experience the blackout, so that means an aggregate of one million households are affected.

The article says that the outage may last almost a week.  That means that unless they have a backup source of power, they will not be able to keep frozen foods safely during that period of time without adequate dry ice, and think of how many people are filling their freezers for winter now?  Imagine having spent several hundred dollars to do that, only to end up losing it all?

Do customers on a budget payment plan receive credit for 16% of the month being without power?

Consider also that California's wild fire season is nearly year-round, with the summer fire season being June to September, and the Santa Anna wind fire season being October to April.  How often will the inspections take place, and how many blackouts will be necessitated during those months? 

One can't help wonder if and how this might connect to the fact that PG & E is bankrupt...
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 09, 2019, 02:25:02 PM
Anne*411 uses broadcast news media footage from California to document several more disturbing facts about the deliberate California power blackout:

1. Authorities are going door to door and ordering restaurants closed.

2. Traffic lights will be non-functional

3. Gas pumps will be non-functional

4. Plumbing will be non-functional

5. Grocery stores will not be open

6. Hardware stores' shelves are bare of flashlights

7. Bridges and tunnels are shutting down

8. All vacations for police officers have been cancelled, and everyone is called to duty

9. No parking will be allowed on streets

10. Communities without woodlands and not in fire zones will still be forced to comply

11. Back-up generators are sold out in many places

12. P G & E's website is reportedly not functioning

13. Those relying upon electrical medical devices are on their own to provide back-up power

Does this sound like practice for M. L.?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YenUWORVf8
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 09, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
Interesting perspective from Californian and economic analyst Bob Kudla on P G & E:

A judge has ruled that the bankrupt energy company cannot hike the rates of customers to pay off its debt.  Kudla explains how this may be an angle of what is happening in California right now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0tX26SX_0c
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Jimfarmer on October 09, 2019, 09:55:33 PM
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Does this sound like practice for M. L.?

Sounds like practice for expected future scenario in general.  Martial law would be involved in most cases, I expect.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 10, 2019, 07:40:34 AM
The Common Sense Show is reporting that radio signal repeater towers are being taken down from hilltops in California as well, making ham radios unusable. 

I won't post the link because the film is politically charged, but readers who want to hear it can go to the Common Sense Show home page and look for the "Historical Change" video.

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The more we talk about these things, the less likely that they'll take place, because now there's scrutiny.

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on October 10, 2019, 08:51:40 AM
PG&E's website:  https://www.pge.com/

Went to their website and home page's headline read:  Public Safety Power Shutoff Announcement

Went back about two minutes later and there was no such headline!  But that term was incorporated in the small text in an article.  Strange indeed.   As RR asked, could the shutoff be related to their bankruptcy?  It does seem possible or even likely.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 10, 2019, 02:07:59 PM
Interesting Ilinda!

Per Marfoogle News, SF Chronicle is reporting that folks in California are becoming openly angry.  A PG&E vehicle has been fired upon, and eggs have been thrown at the windows of one of their offices:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5r2AbtAmGI @ around 23:00

Also under discussion was the fact that customers were only given very short notice to get ready, and may have been between paychecks with no available funds to prep.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 10, 2019, 02:29:38 PM
Further into the above Marfoogle News broadcast @ around 33:15, incoming reports interrupt the scheduled presentation, with viewers in California complaining that the radio repeater towers have been taken down, just as Common Sense Show had reported earlier, meaning that ham radios are rendered inoperable. 

So this would seem to be a validation of the earlier report. 

The left-hand column of this website's home page shows ham radio relay outages as blinking red lights:

http://www.carlaradio.net/

Please see screenshot below, in which the blinking red lights are shown as gray bars to the left of each signal area, toward the bottom of the list:

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on October 10, 2019, 05:12:02 PM
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California complaining that the radio repeater towers have been taken down, just as Common Sense Show had reported earlier, meaning that ham radios are rendered inoperable.

Yes that is _exactly_ the scenario that we had in our recent ARES (Amateur Radio Emergency Service) SET (Statewide Emergency Test) last month (September).

Where the repeater towers were down and we used VHF/UHF simplex communications to provide backup communications to hospitals, first responders , etc..

EVERYONE needs to get at least their Technician class Ham license to prepare for what is about to take place …

Simulated Emergency Test

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_Emergency_Test

The annual Simulated Emergency Test (SET) is a training exercise involving the Amateur Radio Emergency Service (ARES) and the National Traffic System (NTS), a message-handling service of amateur radio. The American Radio Relay League is a prime mover in this event, which is organized somewhat like a contest. Its primary purposes are to evaluate strengths and weaknesses in emergency preparedness and communications, and to demonstrate amateur radio to the public.

During the first full weekend of October of every year in the United States, a nationwide radio communications network is set up that links every major city and most of the geography of the country. This technological infrastructure is set up from scratch within a few hours at locations that vary from state and local government Emergency Operations Centers to isolated areas without utilities of any kind. Every mode of radio communications is utilized including analog, digital, voice, data, simplex, duplex, satellites and even automated relay stations launched on aircraft and with weather balloons. For no more than 48 continuous hours, this nationwide radio communications network is exercised with the primary objective of proving the system's readiness and capabilities. Then as quickly as it was set up, the system is dismantled and stored in preparation for when it is needed. The system has demonstrated its value time after time during earthquakes, hurricanes, forest fires, terrorist attacks and other disasters. All of this capability is provided by volunteers who continuously hone their technical skills and acquire, build, and maintain their own equipment. These radio engineers and operators, along with their equipment, combine into an important resource for emergency communications.

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 10, 2019, 05:22:50 PM
Do I understand correctly Max that there is a workaround for when the repeaters are down?  Could you explain in simple terms how that is possible, for people like me who are ignorant about this niche?

I'll admit to having put off learning about this until now, thinking that we'd be fine without radio connection to the outside world (or even safer, if PTB or a dark element could hone-in on our signal), but now am realizing just how isolated folks are in California, and how valuable every little scrap of information must be to them right now.

BTW, the contest sounds really interesting!
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on October 10, 2019, 05:33:22 PM
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Do I understand correctly Max that there is a workaround for when the repeaters are down?  Could you explain in simple terms how that is possible, for people like me who are ignorant about this niche?

It is just "point-to-point" communications with two (or more ) operators using usually hand-held VHF/UHF radios something like this:

https://www.hamradio.com/detail.cfm?pid=H0-012507

ICOM IC-T70A-HD-15
144 / 430 MHz Dual Band Hand Held FM Transceiver - Analog - 5 Watts - w/ BP-265 & BC-193
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 10, 2019, 05:37:03 PM
So this device is a back-up to the ham radio that each operator is recommended to have on hand?
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on October 10, 2019, 05:47:38 PM
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So this device is a back-up to the ham radio that each operator is recommended to have on hand?

It is typical of the hand-held radios that each HAM might use during the exercise, if you just wanted to order a “cheap radio” to get started with I would recommend:

https://www.radioddity.com/products/baofeng-x-radioddity-uv-82x3

BAOFENG X RADIODDITY UV-82X3 Radio | Tri-band 1.25M | Dual PTT | 2 Antennas | with Cable

$43.99 Regular price

You don't have to have a license  to by a radio, you can order one and start listening to VHF/UHF Ham traffic/conversations..

A good way to get started is to find your county ARES group and pay them a visit !

They are always more than happy to help new people get started ..

Amateur Radio Emergency Service® (ARES)

http://www.arrl.org/ares
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 10, 2019, 06:07:12 PM
That's affordable enough that I might give my husband one for Christmas.

Thanks for the link - I found several clubs in our area!

Posting club search page link:

http://www.arrl.org/find-a-club

Looking forward to joining  :)
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 11, 2019, 09:39:35 AM
3% Report notes that Macquarie Group, the same international finance group based in Australia that recently won control of the Port of Long Beach, California, is in the process of replacing much of PG&E infrastructure in California with massive lithium Tesla battery banks:

(https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi0.wp.com%2Felectrek.co%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F3%2F2018%2F01%2Fsolar-neoen-hornsdale-battery-5.png%3Fw%3D496%26h%3D279%26quality%3D82%26strip%3Dall%26ssl%3D1&f=1&nofb=1)

https://cleanpowerexchange.org/southern-california-edison-to-bring-online-50-mw-tesla-powerpack-2-systems/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufY6QLqN2Y4 @ latter half of film



Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on October 11, 2019, 11:44:13 AM
Editor's Note:  A good example of the "progress" of civilization:

https://desdemonadespair.net/2019/08/farmers-in-chile-losing-freshwater-battle-with-lithium-mines-well-be-left-here-with-no-water-no-anim

August 24, 2019
Farmers in Chile losing freshwater battle with lithium mines –
“We’ll be left here with no water, no animals, no agriculture – with nothing”
Aerial view of brine pools at the SQM lithium mine on the Atacama salt flat in the Atacama desert of northern Chile, 10 January 2013. Photo: Ivan Alvarado / ReutersAerial view of brine pools at the SQM lithium mine on the Atacama salt flat in the Atacama desert of northern Chile, 10 January 2013. Photo: Ivan Alvarado / Reuters

By Grace Livingstone
15 August 2019

SANTIAGO, Chile (BBC News) – Out of habit, Sara Plaza smiles when her photo is taken, but when she talks about what has happened to the land around her home, tears start to run down her face.

“There used to be beautiful lagoons down there, with hundreds of flamingos,” she says. “When they opened their wing, you’d see their pretty pink and black feathers. Now it’s all dry and the birds have gone.”  Peine, the dusty village where she lives in northern Chile, sits on a hillside by the Salar de Atacama, an enormous 3,000 sq km (1,200 sq mile) salt flat in the driest desert on the planet.

    The birds have gone, we can’t keep animals anymore. It’s getting harder and harder to grow crops. If it gets any worse, we will have to emigrate.
    Jorge Cruz, a farmer in the village of Camar, Chile

Sara says that the villagers used to graze their animals on pastures on the edge of the Atacama, beneath the giant Andes mountains.  “It used to be so green, now it’s just hard, cracked ground. We can’t keep llamas anymore,” she laments.
Sara says that lithium mining on the Atacama is using up all the fresh water in the region’s aquifers – layers of porous rock beneath the soil which act as stores of water.

Lithium, a soft, silvery-white metal is used to make batteries for smartphones, laptops, and electric cars. Demand has soared in recent years, with global output rising three-fold since 2005 to 85,000 tonnes in 2018, according to the US Geological Survey.

Chile is the world’s second-largest producer after Australia, with an output of 16,000 tonnes last year, all from the Atacama. Valued at $949m (£785m) this was a 38% rise on 2017.
Global lithium prices, 2005-2016. Data: Benchmark Mineral Intelligence. Graphic: QuartzGlobal lithium prices, 2005-2016. Data: Benchmark Mineral Intelligence. Graphic: Quartz

There are currently just two companies mining lithium here – a US firm, Albemarle, and Chile’s own SQM. [cf. SQM receives Chile’s approval for lithium plant expansion. –Des]

Beneath the salt flat is an enormous natural underground reservoir of salty water that contains dissolved lithium salts. To extract this, the miners pump this brine to the surface, and allow it to evaporate in the sun, leaving the lithium carbonate to be scooped up. This salt can then be turned into metallic lithium.

While there are continuing concerns about the impact the extraction of this salt water is having on the wider ecosystem, including the claims that the flamingos’ salt water lagoons are drying up, the most pressing issue for Sara and other locals is that the mining firms are also accessing fresh water supplies.  They need the fresh water to clean machinery and pipes, and also to produce an auxiliary product from the brine – potash – which is used as a fertiliser.

Standing among yellowing tufts of grass that used to be pasture lands Sarah – who monitors water supplies for her indigenous community – points out a small pumping station that draws up underground fresh water and pipes it to the lithium mines.
Jorge Cruz, a farmer in the village of Camar, Chile. He says he can no longer farm animals because of freshwater depletion caused by lithium mines. Photo: BBC NewsJorge Cruz, a farmer in the village of Camar, Chile. He says he can no longer farm animals because of freshwater depletion caused by lithium mines. Photo: BBC News

About 40km (25 miles) further north, Jorge Cruz grows maize and alfalfa on a small plot of land in the village of Camar, another indigenous community near the salt flat.  He says that if the mining companies continue to use fresh water at the current rate his village will not survive.
“The birds have gone, we can’t keep animals anymore,” he says. “It’s getting harder and harder to grow crops. If it gets any worse … we will have to emigrate.” […]

“The [current] level of water extraction is causing real harm to the ecosystem and nearby communities,” says Gonzalo Pimentel of the Atacama Desert Foundation, a non-profit institution supporting local communities. […]

Sara is fearful. “We’ll be left here with no water, no animals, no agriculture – with nothing.” [more]

The farmers who worry about our phone batteries
agriculture / bird decline / Chile / corruption / cro

and if that isn't enough, how interestiing that "Clean Power Exchange" even has the nerve to use such a name as implying their operation is clean:

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on October 11, 2019, 03:02:42 PM
One of my favorite authors (Dr. Joseph Farrell) with his usual “whit and pointed sarcasm” paints a picture of what actually might behind the recent decision in “Nuttyfornian” to turn of peoples power ..

PG&E’s DELIBERATE BLACKOUTS  ;D

https://gizadeathstar.com/2019/10/pges-deliberate-blackouts/

Seriously, folks, I do not know why Nuttyfornians haven't done a run on pitchforks and ropes, because I've never seen a state so lost in lunacy as that one. While San Francisco drowns in human poop and drug needles, the people in the state capital, the administrative center of the asylum, Scarymental , are worried about plastic straws and forcing people to get vaccinated.

But wait, there's more insanity, and you knew it was coming: according to this article shared by C.V., deliberate brownouts and blackouts are coming from PG&E (Pacific Graft and Emoluments... er... I mean, Pacific Gas and Electric) during period of high fire risk:

Of the Bay Area’s nine counties, all but San Francisco was to be hit by the mass outage intended to stop trees from crashing into Pacific Gas and Electric Co. lines when fast, dry winds blow in after several months without sustained rainfall. Across the state, 34 counties will be affected, some starting in the early morning and others not until noon or later on Wednesday. (Emphasis added)

Now, I don't know about you, but the last time I checked, there was no necessary nor causal connection between shutting off people's power and trees not falling on the power lines. Something tells me those trees will continue to fall onto the power lines; they may not start fires with the lines dead, but there's always the lightning for that (and we'll get back to that in a moment). But it's ok, they're doing their little bit to fight forest fires preemptively and (to use the hated word) "pro-actively". Uh huh.

And while you're thinking Nuttyfornia couldn't possibly become any nuttier, there's this little cache of cashews:

    Some water districts asked customers to store supplies. The East Bay Municipal Utilities District, which delivers water to 1.4 million customers in Alameda and Contra Costa counties, and other water providers, including the Marin Municipal Water District, were asking customers in affected areas to store a minimum of two gallons of water per person per day — enough to last three to seven days — and to store extra for pets. Although the districts have back-up generators for water pumping and distribution, services could be affected.

The problem here is, this is the "narrative," because many Californians recorded so many anomalies from the previous fires that the trees-falling-on-power-lines isn't the only nor total explanation. In fact, many of those anomalies point to some potentially downright sinister technologies and motivations. And as for the falling trees on power lines explanation, personally, I'd go so far as to say it's the spin. Many of those fires had all the hallmarks of being a man-made problem, a bit of TADISC (Technologically Assisted Disaster Capitalism) which is being pressed into the service of another narrative, that of global warming:

With reasoning like this, one might expect the nasty folks in Scarymental, Nuttyfornia to start limiting people's water supply because of prolonged draught. (Oh... wait, they already did that....) It's that little bit about all of this being a question of "whether PG&E can deliver power safely to its customers amid a warming climate" that's the give-a-way. For one thing, the warming climate part is undefined: warming where? the Bay area? the whole state? The country? the continent? the globe? And if the larger categories, those data and that conclusion are in dispute. But not to worry, they're still a good enough excuse to turn off the power to the suburban deplorables during "danger periods."
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: Yowbarb on October 11, 2019, 11:27:04 PM
I saw some news coverage today, deeply critical of the power blackouts... it caused at least one death...lack of power for home oxygen use.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 12, 2019, 05:35:46 AM
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Technologically Assisted Disaster Capitalism

 :-X
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: R.R. Book on October 12, 2019, 05:47:45 AM
I've been musing on the Tesla electrical infrastructure project in California since yesterday, and realize that something about it doesn't make sense:

If PG&E is bankrupt, to the extent that organizations all over California that have vested their retirement funds in it have been warned that they may now see a zero return, then how is PG&E coming up with funds for this exorbitantly expensive Tesla infrastructure project? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0li4edBd7ZU

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pge-plunges-most-chapter-11-filing-after-losing-bankruptcy-exclusivity

Some questions arise:

1. Could Macquarie Group have been selected ahead of time to completely replace PG&E, whether publicly or privately?  After all - why is the new foreign owner of Long Beach Port getting involved in the electrical infrastructure of the entire state of California?  Bearing in mind that Macquarie, though nominally Australian, is a high-profile global corporation, which Wiki names as the world's largest infrastructure asset manager:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macquarie_Group

Or, if not, then

2. Could it be that PG&E is not as bankrupt as we're being told?

And/or

3. Might retirement funds vested in PG&E have been plundered and used to cover the Tesla bill (one hates to go that far)?

Would love any alternate explanations...
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on October 12, 2019, 06:16:52 AM
Nuttyfornians says it all!!  :P

California Officials declare Ham Radio no longer a benefit; Demands Ham radio repeater infrastructure to be Removed!!

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/california-officials-declare-ham-radio-no-longer-a-benefit-demands-ham-radio-repeater-infrastructure-to-be-removed

California is severing ties to ham radio repeater owners throughout the state, demanding REMOVAL of Repeater sites from public property, jeopardizing the lives of millions of Californians who depend on these repeaters to operate during emergencies.

(First they cut electric, now they want to cut communications.  See what's actually going out out there?)

In a letter sent by CAL FIRE, the state claims Ham operators no longer provide a benefit to the state or public safety. They claim that “constantly changing technological advances” has made Ham radio obsolete during an emergency.

Keep in mind; this is a state that is currently shutting power down in 34 of its counties because its infrastructure cannot handle 20-30 mph winds without risking wildfire breakouts throughout the state.
What is a Ham Radio Repeater

    An amateur radio repeater system is a two-way radio system that takes weaker or low-level amateur radio signals and retransmits them at a higher level or higher power so that the radio signal can cover longer distances without degradation. It is a vital part of the local emergency communications system, and Ham Radio operators have been using them for decades to provide support during disasters that take out local communication infrastructure.

Why would they remove something that is the last line of defense during a disaster?

What is infuriating here is people are going to die because of this decision.

It costs the State of California nothing to allow these repeaters on public land; in fact, Ham Radio Operators pay for the equipment and maintain the equipment at their own cost.

Ham Radio operators also make nothing from running these radio repeaters; they do so as a service to the public to help ensure the public’s safety during natural disasters and emergencies.

Here's a good explanation from a HAM operator:

More importantly, THEY DON'T WANT AMERICANS TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE VIA METHODS THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT SHUT OFF.

Right now, government can shut off home telephones, cellular phones, the internet/email, but they can't shut off HAM Radio.  They can't control what is transmitted or who hears it.  Government doesn't like that.




Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on January 11, 2020, 07:06:14 AM

Here’s What Happens When You Go Without Power for 7 Days: You don’t really realize how much you need electric power, until you are left without it!!  :-[

https://thegratedepresion.home.blog/2020/01/10/what-happens-when-you-go-without-power-for-7-days/

I don’t know if you’ve ever lived through a major power outage, but I have. I live in a hurricane zone, so I guess it’s no surprise that I would end up suffering through a hurricane sometime. The one I got wasn’t one of the big, sexy ones which brought in FEMA agents and lots of non-profit agencies to help us recover, but it was bad enough that it took a week for our power to get back on, so we could put our lives back together.

You don’t really realize how much you need electric power, until you are left without it. As a society, we are addicted to electricity. Pretty much everything we do uses electricity in one way or another, even activities which we think aren’t electrified.

When the power goes out, you really notice it; and the longer it is out, the more things it affects. Life gets harder rather quickly, as we wonder how we are going to do even the basic necessities for survival, let alone the day-to-day activities we are used to.

Looking at the way things are in California right now, this may be something we all need to get used to. The rolling blackouts they are having right now are due to a series of errors, some made by the power company and some by the government.

The government blames the utilities for not properly maintaining their lines, while the utility companies are blaming the government for forcing them to invest the money that should have gone into that maintenance, into expensive green energy projects.


When the Power Went Out

I first noticed that the power went out when my computer suddenly shut off. This wasn’t the first time that had happened to me, as power outages in the middle of a storm are fairly normal. I figured that the power would come on in a while and in the mean time, I could have a snack and watch the rain.

Later that Day

Thank God, the lights came back on. We have power once again. Things are starting to settle down. Where it was looking like we were going to have High Noon in the streets of our neighborhood just a few hours ago, things look civilized once again. People have put their guns away again. Some food trucks have shown up and I see smiles on faces once more.

So that was my experience. I’m glad it wasn’t any worse. But what about you? Have you lived through something similar? Have you had the lights go out? How did you handle it? How did your neighbors? What did you learn that you were doing wrong?

Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on January 11, 2020, 05:48:35 PM

Here’s What Happens When You Go Without Power for 7 Days: You don’t really realize how much you need electric power, until you are left without it!!  :-[

https://thegratedepresion.home.blog/2020/01/10/what-happens-when-you-go-without-power-for-7-days/

I don’t know if you’ve ever lived through a major power outage, but I have. I live in a hurricane zone, so I guess it’s no surprise that I would end up suffering through a hurricane sometime. The one I got wasn’t one of the big, sexy ones which brought in FEMA agents and lots of non-profit agencies to help us recover, but it was bad enough that it took a week for our power to get back on, so we could put our lives back together.

You don’t really realize how much you need electric power, until you are left without it. As a society, we are addicted to electricity. Pretty much everything we do uses electricity in one way or another, even activities which we think aren’t electrified.

When the power goes out, you really notice it; and the longer it is out, the more things it affects. Life gets harder rather quickly, as we wonder how we are going to do even the basic necessities for survival, let alone the day-to-day activities we are used to.

Looking at the way things are in California right now, this may be something we all need to get used to. The rolling blackouts they are having right now are due to a series of errors, some made by the power company and some by the government.

The government blames the utilities for not properly maintaining their lines, while the utility companies are blaming the government for forcing them to invest the money that should have gone into that maintenance, into expensive green energy projects.


When the Power Went Out

I first noticed that the power went out when my computer suddenly shut off. This wasn’t the first time that had happened to me, as power outages in the middle of a storm are fairly normal. I figured that the power would come on in a while and in the mean time, I could have a snack and watch the rain.

Later that Day

Thank God, the lights came back on. We have power once again. Things are starting to settle down. Where it was looking like we were going to have High Noon in the streets of our neighborhood just a few hours ago, things look civilized once again. People have put their guns away again. Some food trucks have shown up and I see smiles on faces once more.

So that was my experience. I’m glad it wasn’t any worse. But what about you? Have you lived through something similar? Have you had the lights go out? How did you handle it? How did your neighbors? What did you learn that you were doing wrong?

In 2009 we experienced an "inland hurricane", our first, and within the 88-110 mph straight-line winds of the hurricane were "funnel cloud spin-offs".  Long story short, hubby was out of town, and I was on the farm, indoors, and heard and felt the wind and rain escallating, then the power went off, and not too long after that, I heard up above what sounded like a freight train in the process of accelerating--think "choo choo".  It sounded a lot like a very loud automatic washing machine that was out of balance, and that's when I realized it sounds like they describe a tornado--close up.  The "choo choo" sound got louder so I grabbed the cat and ran outdoors, and literally tossed him under the porch, then I joined him, and held on to one of the porch posts, while being pelted with torrential rain.

When it was over, three utility poles on our farm were down, trees were downed everywhere including blocking our 1/2 mile driveway and thousands of roads over many square miles, resulting in the utility importing workers from many states to help re-electrify the area.  No doubt, everyone else who experienced this has/had their own story to tell.

The most important thing, though, was the two-full week power outage and phone outage.  Hubby returned the next day and we quickly developed a routine for lighting at night, and water usage, whether for cooking and drinking, or washing, etc.  Once you have a routine, it becomes a bit easier.  However, we could hear the drone of generators all up and down our road--nobody seems confident enough to live for even one second without electricity from the grid or their generators!

We wondered even back then, what would happen if the power didn't come back on for a full year?  What would be the turning point for all those brave, hardy pioneers who move to the countryside, thinking they are "roughing it"?  When their generators ran out of fuel, and they could not pump gas because gas pumps are all now dependent on electricity, what then? 

The biggest questions are, what will the people do when they make that final realization that the power is not coming back any time soon?  Will they turn on each other just because they are angry and don't know what else to do?  Will those who run out of fuel for their generators turn on those who still have fuel?  (My guess is yes, they will.)  At some point, will the last two households with generator fuel have a duel to see who uses the last drop of fuel?  Or will the first few to run out of fuel get together and begin to gang up on those with fuel, one by one, until nobody has fuel?  It is difficult to know exactly what would happen, but my best guess is that it will not be pretty.

What did we learn?  One thing is, that all a generator does is give a person a false sense of security.  It only prolongs the inevitable in the case of a very long term outage.  It also perpetuates dependence on "The Man" for survival.  The outage made us more aware that we need to hone our skills for outdoor cooking, with which we are already familiar, but skills can get rusty.  Time to practice using fire-sticks.
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: MadMax on January 12, 2020, 02:44:24 AM
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The biggest questions are, what will the people do when they make that final realization that the power is not coming back any time soon?  Will they turn on each other just because they are angry and don't know what else to do?  Will those who run out of fuel for their generators turn on those who still have fuel?  (My guess is yes, they will.)  At some point, will the last two households with generator fuel have a duel to see who uses the last drop of fuel?  Or will the first few to run out of fuel get together and begin to gang up on those with fuel, one by one, until nobody has fuel?  It is difficult to know exactly what would happen, but my best guess is that it will not be pretty.

What did we learn?  One thing is, that all a generator does is give a person a false sense of security.  It only prolongs the inevitable in the case of a very long term outage.  It also perpetuates dependence on "The Man" for survival.  The outage made us more aware that we need to hone our skills for outdoor cooking, with which we are already familiar, but skills can get rusty.  Time to practice using fire-sticks.


ilinda thanks for sharing your experiences during this "extended power outage" it was quite helpful to hear what you learned during this period of time!

Max.
 
Title: Re: When the Lights Go Out
Post by: ilinda on January 13, 2020, 11:20:34 AM
Another stray thought relates to the type of fuel used by neighbors who will rely on generators the moment the grid is down.  Some generators use gasoline, others, diesel, and one I saw can use either gas, diesel, or propane.

It may be helpful to know the types of generators used nearby, as that is the type of fuel they will be looking for, including possibly siphoniing it from your vehicle's gas tank while you sleep, depending on whether your vehicle uses the same type of fuel as their generator.  Food for thought.