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Title: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: R.R. Book on June 25, 2019, 11:07:53 AM
Starting a new thread to keep track of books, films, and discussions of whether the Anunnaki generally wore black hats or white, in order possibly to answer the nagging question of what to expect when and if they return (which may already have occurred or be in-progress).  While some other threads also address the Sitchin portrayal of the Anunnaki, this one will permit a peaceful, non-sectarian discussion of religious texts which directly bear upon the topic, in keeping with the Town Hall rules of neither proselytizing nor going to fisticuffs in our conversations.

While in the past, traditional religion might have shied away from any such contemplation, religious seminarians and scholars are beginning to grapple with the subject of the Anunnaki in context of each one's culture and beliefs, and perhaps conversations on the road to their own broadened understanding of the historical background framing parts of their sacred texts could be of interest to the rest of us, who may elect to focus upon portions and discard anything that doesn't personally edify us.

One wise way of addressing this topic may be to collate the opinions of those who have studied deeply into this discipline from all faiths, or from none, and maintain an open mind, as any anticipated return of the Anunnaki may differ significantly from that of the past.  After all, technological earth man himself now differs significantly from humanity's recorded and extrapolated history.

Please post as you're able  :)

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Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: R.R. Book on June 25, 2019, 11:43:20 AM
Listing older Town Hall boards and threads addressing the basic Sitchin understanding of the Anunnaki, and expanding upon it, for anyone who may be completely new to the topic or who may simply want a review:

Marshall's introduction to the topic from 2013, including recorded discussion:
Cut to the Chase - cttcRadio.com / Sitchin's Anunnaki — Marshall Klarfeld, Nibiru Author, Producer and Historian
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php/topic,5289.msg74609.html#msg74609

Another thread by Marshall introducing a Rabbi's viewpoint in 2012:
Your Own World Radio - yowRadio.com / Is There a Hidden Apocalypse in the Bible?
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php/topic,3675.msg52572.html#msg52572

And another thread by Marshall in 2015 contemplating the Mayan connection:
Articles and Books / Were the Mayans Using Anunnaki Knowledge?
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php/topic,5895.msg84857.html#msg84857

Barb's concise discussion from 2014 (a good summary):
HUMANITY'S DEEP HISTORY / Re: Annunaki, discussions of
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php/topic,5390.msg77388.html#msg77388

Joe Montanna's discussion from 2010:
Post It All And Let Blog Sort It Out / Why the Annunaki need gold
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php/topic,548.msg4378.html#msg4378

Ilinda's broader ET board introduced in 2010, which she graciously became caretaker of:
EXTRATERRESTRIALS »Extraterrestrials, Their Agenda Or Ours?
https://planetxtownhall.com/index.php/board,39.0.html

Admins and Mods, please feel free to add any important links to Town Hall threads addressing the Anunnaki from the past that I may have omitted  :)
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: R.R. Book on June 25, 2019, 01:16:13 PM
Here is a Youtube interview of Dr. Michael Heiser, biblical linguistics scholar and author of:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFiLQdSPCSg

Film highlights:

*The Jewish connotation of the Fall of Man is broader in scope than the common Christian perspective, including more interaction with potential off-worlders

*The Book of Enoch (a.k.a. I Enoch) is potentially old enough and vetted enough to be included in the canon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

*Even if Enoch is not included in the Bible, much of the Bible seems to refer back to it in a way that assumes familiarity with that book on the part of early readers.

*The Mesopotamian accounts also fill in gaps in the Biblical account

*The Annunaki may have endowed man with technology as a Trojan horse with a hidden agenda toward expediting his own self-destruction

*From a close reading of the Christian Messiah's genealogy in both Aramaic and Greek, it becomes clear, according to Heiser, that there are several women in his lineage who were under Anunnaki influence and control.  Heiser reasons that only a Messiah descending from those women (same DNA or blood type?) could undo damage done to the earth through their stories.

*Hermon is an off-worlder mountain gathering place on the Syria-Lebanon border that is little-known to Westerners, but at the center of regional tensions going back millennia.  It is considered the dwelling-place of the Anunnaki where giants lived, and a real-life version of Tolkien's Mt. Doom.

Referred by:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFiLQdSPCSg

Note: The Anunnaki may be directly referenced in Deuteronomy 2:10-11 as the Anakim:
http://www.annunaki.org/the-annunaki-in-the-bible/


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Depicted on the left, Mt. Hermon features the ruins of Roman temples on top, suggesting that the titans and gods which that culture venerated may have been real beings, and not just fairy tales.  Tolkien's Mt. Doom is depicted on the right.
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: MadMax on June 25, 2019, 02:35:30 PM
Good interview where David explains where the Reptilians /Anunnaki come from ..

David Icke: Reptilians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQr_zc3nvQA

David Icke explains how reptilians exist in this reality..
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: R.R. Book on June 25, 2019, 04:25:51 PM
Really interesting bit of information in that video Max, when Icke explains that the indigenous tribe with an oral history connecting back to the Anunnaki said they were instructed never to depict the Anunnaki as they really looked, but only symbolically as animals.

Sooo...If artwork and statuary depict the Anunnaki as reptiles, then according to the legend, that is not their actual appearance, which means they may not be reptilians at all. 

However they could/can appear to shape-shift, which brings us to another fascinating point: the "reptilians" don't really shape-shift, they merely cause our internal DNA software to interpret falsely that they have done so.  Or perhaps our internal decoding mechanism perceives correctly that there has been a shift in the being's energy field?

He mentions that our physical forms are not solid (which would make us congruent with most of the universe then), but holographic. 

Then he said that  the purpose of hybrid breeding programs has been to allow these entities to be able to vibrate at a frequency compatible with the human frequency so as to be able to enter our energy field and feed off of us.  If we were entirely different beings operating in completely different energy ranges, that would not be possible.

PTB are, he explains, often hybrids who are overshadowed by an attached entity.

Which makes me think: How many of us have known or observed someone who behaved, perhaps subtly, as if they were feeding off of others?  I've known individuals who would quietly set up a difficult situation between other people as if trying to trap quarry, and then enjoy the outcome as if having eaten a satisfying meal...

Also very interesting that the fairy tales can be traced back to these legends...

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Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: ilinda on June 25, 2019, 08:50:06 PM

Which makes me think: How many of us have known or observed someone who behaved, perhaps subtly, as if they were feeding off of others?  I've known individuals who would quietly set up a difficult situation between other people as if trying to trap quarry, and then enjoy the outcome as if having eaten a satisfying meal...

Very definitely have observed someone behaving in that mode.  For a few, it's probably second nature.
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: Yowbarb on June 26, 2019, 02:01:36 AM
I appreciate this topic and will read through some of the references...
I helped edit Being, which goes into it...
My own gut feeling and based on a what I do consider to be a couple of conscious memories, which popped up decades ago before I came across the PX, Annunaki subjects.
These memories, I feel have carried down through at the spiritual level, and imprinted in the cellular level, also maybe in the very DNA.  (Well that is a klunky re-phrase of some things I believe.)
At any rate, nothing but pure horror at things the Annunaki were doing to us on this planet. 

If they have changed and evolved, that would be good... We were only there for their pleasure and for  them to  create a slave race with, and to work and to consume as food as well. Marshall said if they come back we will have to fight... and that will go on a really long time...
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: MadMax on June 26, 2019, 04:00:40 AM
The “The Emerald Tablets of Thoth The Atlantean” perported to be the oldest writtien history of mankind, contain clear references to the Reptilians /Anunnaki in the ancient past…

Interesting stuff to study ..

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth The Atlantean Paperback – June 1, 2006

https://www.amazon.com/Emerald-Tablets-Thoth-Atlantean/dp/0966531205/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=the+emerald+tablets&qid=1561546555&s=gateway&sr=8-2


The history of the Emerald Tablets is strange and beyond the belief of modern scientists. Their antiquity is stupendous, dating back some 36,000 years B.C. The author is Thoth, an Atlantean Priest-King who founded a colony in ancient Egypt, wrote the Emerald Tablets in his native Atlantean language which was translated by Dr. Michael Doreal.

This edition of the Emerald Tablets is unique in that it includes both the translation and interpretation by Dr. Doreal. Because of the tablet's reference to the Egypt and sacred geometry they became a priority reference for those studying the Flower of Life and the Merkaba meditation. As requested by the Flower of Life Organization, this edition offers Dr. Doreal's translation and interpretation in a side-by-side study format.
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: Yowbarb on June 26, 2019, 01:41:05 PM
MadMax, thanks for your research on this.
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: MadMax on June 26, 2019, 03:23:44 PM
Here is a good discussion of the Emerald Tables /Reptilians

The emerald tablets of Thoth : Are the Reptilians owners of the World?

https://infinityexplorers.com/emerald-tables-thoth-reptilians-owners-world

Maurice Doreal, whose real name was Claude D. Dodgin, was born in Sulfer Springs, Oklahoma in 1898 and died in 1963. He translated the emerald tablets and founded the White Temple Brotherhood in Denver around 1930. Doreal claimed that while he was lecturing In Los Angeles in 1931, he encountered two Atlanteans who transported him to a gigantic cavern 19.31 km below Shasta. Subsequently, Doreal developed an elaborate cosmology of the Earth’s interior, including descriptions of underground races drawn from the alleged testimonies of the Atlanteans.(tablets of Thoth)

According to his memoirs, Maurice had contact with the so-called “Ascended Masters” beings of higher spiritual evolution who live in a plane or astral dimension who allowed him to have access to the understanding of the Emerald Tablet and not only to a fragment which is a small cryptic text from which much current philosophy is revealed (like the one in the book The Secret)(tablets of Thoth)

In the remote past, before Atlantis existed, the men of those times were the ones who delved into the darkness, using dark magic, calling beings from the great depth below us. Then they entered this cycle, they were amorphous, of another vibration, and they existed hidden for the children of the men of the Earth. Only with blood could they form a being, only through man could they live in the world.(tablets of Thoth)

In the form of a man they moved among us, but only for the eyes they were like men. With a snake’s head when the appearance dissipated, but they appeared to men as men among men. They entered the councils, taking forms that were similar to those of men. Giving death to the heads of the kingdoms, taking their form and ruling their men. Only by magic could they be discovered, only by sound could their faces be seen. Wanted by the kingdom of shadows, to destroy man and rule in his place.

The Masters were powerful magicians, capable of lifting the veil of the snake’s face, capable of sending it back to its place. They went to the man and taught him the secret: “the Word that only a man can pronounce; then they quickly lifted the veil of the serpent and threw it out of place among the men. But beware, the snake still lives in its open place, sometimes, to the world. Hidden walk among you in places where the rites have taken place; again, as time passes, they will take on the appearance of men. ”

Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: R.R. Book on June 27, 2019, 05:28:48 AM
Am absolutely floored that it was an Okie who translated the Emerald Tablets, given the cultural constraints at the time.  My own father, who was an Okie, was considered by more conservative family members there to be a prime candidate for H-ll for his constant discussions about Ufology, Sitchin, etc.  ::)
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: R.R. Book on June 27, 2019, 05:41:37 AM
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    Which makes me think: How many of us have known or observed someone who behaved, perhaps subtly, as if they were feeding off of others?  I've known individuals who would quietly set up a difficult situation between other people as if trying to trap quarry, and then enjoy the outcome as if having eaten a satisfying meal...


From Ilinda:
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Very definitely have observed someone behaving in that mode.  For a few, it's probably second nature.


Agreed.
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: ilinda on June 27, 2019, 08:07:39 PM
MadMax, thanks for your research on this.
Ditto, Max, from here.  You've obviously done  a lot of reading and researching on the Emerald Tablets, etc., and some of us have a lot of catching up to do!
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: MadMax on June 28, 2019, 11:23:13 AM
Interesting interview with Ashayana Deane , where she discusses the science behind Ascension, Star Gates and the Emerald Tablets..

ASHAYANA DEANE - PART ONE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ-ZaU6FHNw

I went to Florida to interview A'shayana Deane, author of the Voyager books. Her previous work details the history behind the genetic engineering of the human race and the numerous ET races that have been interacting with and shaping our destiny here on Earth as well as throughout the many multi-verses. This information is highly complex and detailed. She and two other "speakers" as they call themselves are receiving this information via telepathic downloads. They have been trained by the Guardian Alliances, a group of ETs who protect the secrets of ascension and the stargates on this planet and others from what they call the self-interested Intruder races.


Her “Voyager Series” is classic:

Voyagers II: The Secrets of Amenti - Volume II of the Emerald Covenant CDT Plate Translations r

https://www.amazon.com/Voyagers-II-Secrets-Covenant-Translations/dp/1893183254/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Ashayana+Deane&qid=1561745867&s=gateway&sr=8-3

The most authoritative text available on the purposes, processes and mechanics of human evolution, preparation for the monumental events that will occur between 2000-2017, humanity's true origins and evolutionary destiny and the hidden purposes for the New Age Movement. Detailed information on Keylontic Morphogenetic Science, time mechanics, interdimensional planetary evolution, the science of Dimensional Ascension, integration of multi-dimensional identity, DNA mechanics and accelerated biological and spiritual evolution. Introduces a comprehensive model of 15-dimensional universal physics and the corresponding 15 Primary Chakra System and 12-strand DNA Silicate Matrix gene code. Discover the secrets of humanity's evolutionary destiny that have been hidden within our ancient, traditional and New Age sacred mystical and religious teachings.




Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: Yowbarb on June 29, 2019, 10:10:53 PM
https://archive.org/stream/AmirFatirOnAliensInTheQuran/Extraterrestrial_Aliens_and_Reptilian_Gods_9_djvu.txt

Full text of "Amir Fatir on Aliens in the Quran"

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Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: Yowbarb on June 29, 2019, 10:12:13 PM
Am absolutely floored that it was an Okie who translated the Emerald Tablets, given the cultural constraints at the time.  My own father, who was an Okie, was considered by more conservative family members there to be a prime candidate for H-ll for his constant discussions about Ufology, Sitchin, etc.  ::)

R.R. wow what an interesting person he must have been...
Title: Re: Anunnaki: Friend or Foe of Humanity, addressed in the media
Post by: R.R. Book on July 03, 2019, 09:54:11 AM
https://archive.org/stream/AmirFatirOnAliensInTheQuran/Extraterrestrial_Aliens_and_Reptilian_Gods_9_djvu.txt

Full text of "Amir Fatir on Aliens in the Quran"

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I don't see how I  missed this wonderful post Barb!

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Extraterrestrial Aliens and Reptilian Gods in the Quran, Pt IX

by Amir Fatir



Continued from December 2006:
Another verse says the wind
flowed "to the land we blessed."
That usually refers to
Palestine. Therefore, if Solomon
had to send his command to the
blessed land, he wasn't based in
the blessed land. He received his
command from somewhere else
using "the wind" (radio waves?)
to carry it.

And of the Shayateen there were
others who dived for him and did
other work Besides that, and We
kept guard over them.
-Quran 21:82
Solomon forced the devils
(Shayateen) and Jinn to dive for
him. Remember before the
Anunnaki began mining in
Southern Africa, they dived
under water for gold from the
sea. "We" guarded them to
ensure that they worked even
though they didn't want to.
It is clear, from the above
verses, that Solomon was a king
outside of the land of Canaan
who ruled over rebellious,
chained, angry, humiliated
Anunnaki who were accomplished
in many technologies such as
building. The other Anunnaki
("We") kept guard over the Jinn
slaves and punished any
disobedience severely.
Once the work moved to the
South African gold mines, the
punishment became a living hell
for the Anunnaki. It was because
of that situation that the
Anunnaki rebelled and took Enlil
hostage. This was the real reason
that the Annunaki authorized the



was created in the difficult
circumstance of Anunnaki slave labor,
rebellion and near-assassination of
Enlil. Because the Anunnaki were in a
hurry to get gold for Nibiru the Quran
says: "Man has created from haste"
(21:37). To assure that the
manufactured slave could not
overcome his makers, the Quran says
"man was created weak" (4:28). No
animal as large as man is as weak as
man. Based upon size, man should
be five times as strong as he is.
Apparently, humans were deliberately
weakened by Enki's genetic
engineering.

O Iblis, what prevented you from
submitting

To him whom I created with my two
hands?

— Quran 38:75

Allah's hands indicated his physical

manipulation of genes in a test tube

(potter's flask) to make man. The

early efforts to clone a hybrid were

unsuccessful. The first clones were

imperfect. Some had organs outside

the body, others could not hold their

urine, some were blind. Thus the

Quran states that "God" gave you

hearing and sight.

Some of the creations were

monsters. Eventually, Enki decided to

"bind the image of the gods" on man

by mixing his own semen into the

brew.

Surely We created man from mixed

sperm,

To try him, so We made him hearing,

seeing.

— Quran 76:2

He created man from a
small life-germ,

And lo! He is an open



creation of man.

THE SLAVE WORKER ADAM

and there was not a man to till

the ground.

--Genesis 2:5

If there were no people, why
would there even be a need to till
the ground? Certainly, the
animals did not demand it. The
only beings on earth who'd need
tilled land were the Annunaki. So
Adam was made to fulfil a need,
to be a farm laborer or slave for
the gods.

And I have not created the Jinn
And the men except to serve me
-- Quran 51:56
This creator god is therefore a
slave master. This is no spirit
being. This is a being who walks,
had hands and feet, who eats,
accepts food offering which
sometimes has to be cooked and
even demands the first born of
animals and humans to be
offered up as sacrifices to
him. Sometimes they were
commanded to give the Lord salt
so he could season his food.
And God said, Let us make man
in Our image after our likeness.

-- Genesis 1:26
The "us" refers to the Anunnaki
Assembly who authorized Enki to
fashion a lulu slave laborer. The
Anunnaki DNA was used to give
him physical resemblance to the
creators.

We certainly created man in
difficulty.

Does he think no one has power
over him?
— Quran 90: 4-5



contender.

— Quran 16:4
The mixed sperm is Enki's. Elsewhere
it is called "a fluid despised" because
the Enlil clan battled against Enki's
offspring. Also, since Enki was always
trying to use subterfuge to
impregnate unwilling goddesses,
something may have been defective
about Enki's seed.

That however, is unlikely. More likely
is the Anunnaki belief that a son born
of man and his half-sister was
superior to a son between people
who were unrelated. Because
Ninhursag was Enki's half-sister, he
tried desperately to impregnate
her. The child by her was a girl,
however, and thus not in line for rule
over the Anunnaki. Because Sara was
Abraham's half-sister, their child
(Isaac) had precedence over Ishmael
even though Ishmael was older.
He created man from clay like
pottery.

— Quran 55:14

This - as well as all the created from
clay passages - refers to man's
beginning in clay pottery flasks.
Egyptian history says Ptah (Enki)
created man on a potters
wheel. Other cultures also say that
man was created in clay pottery.
And certainly We created man from
An extract from clay.

— Quran 23: 12

The Anunnaki used an element found
in clay to "bind" the genetic fusion of
man with Anunnaki DNA. But man
was far from perfect. He had
innumerable defects.
To be continued ...