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Title: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on August 10, 2010, 09:26:03 AM
This Topic is for Members to discuss the region known as The Ozarks, its possibility as a survival zone in the future.
Please post here your ideas, facts, hopes and dreams, images etc.
about this region.  The Ozarks region is basically in the central US although a portion of it would be considered the upper south. I am posting this Topic here on the Midwest Board.

This is your Ozarks Meeting Place.
All The Best,
Yowbarb
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ozarks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ozarks)     Wikipedia, The Ozarks
The Ozarks (also referred to as Ozarks Mountain Country, the Ozark Mountains or the Ozark Plateau) are a physiographic, geologic, and cultural highland region of the central United States. It covers much of the south half of Missouri and an extensive portion of northwest and North central Arkansas. The region also extends westward into northeast Oklahoma and extreme southeast Kansas.

Although referred to as the Ozark Mountains, the region is actually a high and deeply dissected plateau. Geologically, the area is a broad dome around the Saint Francois Mountains. The Ozark Highlands area, covering nearly 47,000 square miles (122,000 km2), is by far the most extensive mountainous region between the Appalachians and the Rocky Mountains. Together, the Ozarks and Ouachita Mountains form an area known as the U.S. Interior Highlands, and are sometimes referred to collectively.
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/OzarkRelief.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/OzarkRelief.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/OzarkRelief.jpg)

(http://www.ozarkmtns.com/foliage/roads_foliage/44_fall_foliage_roads.jpg)

http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/ozarkswatch/ow104a.htm (http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/periodicals/ozarkswatch/ow104a.htm)[/url]   
Ozarks Watch - A Geographer's Description.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on August 10, 2010, 09:30:24 AM
Miscellaneous images of the Ozarks,
Yowbarb

http://www.plantbiology.siu.edu/images/LGC.Bluff.jpg (http://www.plantbiology.siu.edu/images/LGC.Bluff.jpg)

Limestone bluffs above the Buffalo River, in the Ozarks:
http://www.gonomad.com/destinations/0504/images/buffalo_river.jpg (http://www.gonomad.com/destinations/0504/images/buffalo_river.jpg)

(http://www.gonomad.com/destinations/0504/images/buffalo_river.jpg)

(http://www.oklahomaroadtrips.com/images/Buffalo-River-sm.jpg)

(http://www.americaslibrary.gov/assets/es/ar/es_ar_ozarks_1_e.jpg)

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Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on August 10, 2010, 10:21:43 AM
Just a random sampling of links.  8)
(I have never been there, do not know anyone there.)
Some community links, cultural, music and even a few real estate links will follow.
All The Best,
Yowbarb
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ozark mountain daredevils-it'll shine when it shines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFvE2MPHDCA#)

http://www.ozarkland.com/ (http://www.ozarkland.com/)
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on August 12, 2010, 01:29:45 PM
This site has a lot of miscellaneous info - maps, photos, lodging, camping, etc. This seems to be a lot about the Arkansas part of The Ozarks.
http://www.ozarkmountainregion.com/ (http://www.ozarkmountainregion.com/)

A sampling of links within this site: 

Maps, Directions & Weather in the Ozark Mountains Region  http://www.ozarkmountainregion.com/maps (http://www.ozarkmountainregion.com/maps) 

Weather in the Ozark Mountains Region

Mild Ozark weather means year-round enjoyment of our great outdoors. Many comment upon the scarcity of mosquitoes. Below are 30-year averages of temperatures from three recording stations in the Ozark Mountain Region.

Yearly
            High        Low        Rainfall
Average
         69         46.6       45.21
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on August 12, 2010, 02:23:43 PM
http://www.ozarkland.com/ (http://www.ozarkland.com/)
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: JKB on February 21, 2011, 06:29:32 PM
Hello everyone.  I have been reading over these and similar topics, specifically finding a small group to pool resources with when the time comes.  My wife and I currently reside outside of Kansas City.  I have family in Dallas and my wife has family in Denver and San Diego.  However, depending on how things unfold, I don't know if I will be able to make it to Texas to get my family and have been unsuccessful convincing my wife's family to leave So Cal.  I have been reading on the Zeta site regarding safe zones during the pole shift/planet x flyby and, if that information is correct, I don't really see too many escape routes from the Kansas City area.  KC will be flooded as will all of the states to the north, east is not really an option due to the Mississippi River and the Madrid fault lines, and everyone else will be trying to get to Denver which will be overcowded with the fleeing elites and high ranking military.  Therefore, the Ozarks seem to be the safest place to go in this area.  I don't know how rational or feasible my plan is at the moment, however, the best I can come up with is to try for the Ozarks.  My hope would be to find someplace safe to set up a small shelter and possibly encounter a small group of good people to pool resources with in a best case scenario.  I know that sounds pretty damn simple and short sighted but it is the best I have been able to come up with.  I am in the military and have spent my whole life hunting, fishing, and camping outdoors and somehow feel that hitting the road for the ozarks is our best chance.  I guess I am wanting to know if there is anyone in this area that is thinking the same thing and maybe we could make liasion and travel together or is there anyone living down there that has any suggestions for locations, or just suggestions in general?  I don't know, I see all these local area forum topics but no one seems to really be talking on them.  just thought I would throw something out there.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Ekratz on February 22, 2011, 05:00:18 AM
I currently live in FL, but have a 20 acre plot of land in Flippin, AR.  I am very far from the New Madrid fault, and have been preparing a bunker.  Anyone interested in joining my family and I there would be welcome.  I will be spending this summer there, June, July, and August.  If the world keeps getting worse with the government and the rioting, we will leave and ge off the grid there permently.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on April 05, 2011, 11:52:37 PM
I currently live in FL, but have a 20 acre plot of land in Flippin, AR.  I am very far from the New Madrid fault, and have been preparing a bunker.  Anyone interested in joining my family and I there would be welcome.  I will be spending this summer there, June, July, and August.  If the world keeps getting worse with the government and the rioting, we will leave and ge off the grid there permently.

Hello Ekratz I hope its going well with your bunker.
Just wanted to say hello,
Yowbarb
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on April 06, 2011, 12:02:00 AM
For those thinking of building an earth sheltered home somewhere in the Ozarks, this company is located in Missouri.
I do not know them personally - happened to come across their site on another site which has several survival links. (http://www.buycontacthasbegun.com/index.html)

Terra-Dome Corporation   http://www.terra-dome.com/index.html
 8908 S. Shrout Rd.Grain Valley, MO 64029  |  816.229.6000 voice  |  816.220.3756 fax  |  800.481.3663 toll-free
info@terra-dome.com

Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: JKB on April 06, 2011, 09:09:26 PM
OMG!  How weird.  We live in Grain Valley, MO!  I will definately give them a call.  Thank you so much for taking the time to research and post this YOWBARB.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on April 06, 2011, 09:34:52 PM
OMG!  How weird.  We live in Grain Valley, MO!  I will definitely give them a call.  Thank you so much for taking the time to research and post this YOWBARB.

Now that IS a funny bit of synchronicity!  I (didn't) know that!
I can't say who is who as far as the best builders... I hope they build really solid stuff!
Best O' Luck.
Yowbarb

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Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on April 09, 2011, 02:42:00 PM
Here's a little more info about the Ozarks, from two sources.
Yowbarb
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http://www.netstate.com/states/geography/ar_geography.htm
 
The Highlands of Arkansas are in the north and western part of the state. The Ozark Plateau and the Ouachita mountains are located here.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ozarks   

Ozark Plateau:
The Ozark Plateau lies in the northwestern and north central part of Arkansas. Also covering parts of Missouri, Illinois and Oklahoma, the Ozark Plateau is an area of rugged hills and deep valleys. Much of the area, sometimes referred to as the Ozark Mountains, is heavily forested. To the south, river gorges up to 1,500 feet deep, carved by swiftly flowing streams, cut through the plateau. The steep hills in this area of the Plateau are called the Boston Mountains. The Boston Mountains give way to the Arkansas Valley to the south of the Plateau. The Ozark Plateau is home to Mammoth Springs, one of the largest springs in the United States. Visit The Ozarks by Carmen Borne for more information about the Ozark Plateau.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: mysticalamber on June 15, 2011, 07:01:17 AM
Hi ...... i'm from the east coast new jersey ....... i am planning to get out to the ozarks as per Terral's information as a safe place ......... anyone there that can give me some information will be very helpful ..... thanks
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: olarky on June 20, 2011, 04:37:38 PM
I live in this area you refer to as a safe zone . There are caves and they have water . Caves on federal land are managed . Caves on private land are  managed . Many caves are very traitorous .   Most water in these caves are very alkaline and not potable.  It's beautiful , harsh country .  If you chose to come here don't present your self as a problem . Good Luck every one , hope you find a safe place .
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 20, 2011, 10:00:08 PM
I live in this area you refer to as a safe zone . There are caves and they have water . Caves on federal land are managed . Caves on private land are  managed . Many caves are very traitorous .   Most water in these caves are very alkaline and not potable.  It's beautiful , harsh country .  If you chose to come here don't present your self as a problem . Good Luck every one , hope you find a safe place .


I am not interested in caves...
What about the well water... not so bad?
How do you feel about the stability of the ground in general?
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2011, 02:15:45 PM
If you can't survive with the resources in the Ozarks, It will be very difficult for you elsewhere.

Errrv
 R U saying it (is) full of good resources? Just asking because I feel that to be true and just trying to find out...  ;D
Barb
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Montanabarb on June 22, 2011, 09:38:33 PM
I don't understand why an area (Ozarks) in such close proximity to the New Madrid Fault would be considered the ultimate safe zone.  Maybe the elevation?  The map calls it a plateau.  I'm about 100 miles upwind from Yellowstone, and I believe I feel about as safe as I would 100 miles from the New Madrid.  Now, if I were downwind from the caldera--say in southwest North Dakota or southeastern Montana--I don't think I'd feel quite so secure. 
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2011, 10:53:49 PM
Paradise is where you find it, there are hazards every where you go . Know what the hazards are and how to deal with them and they aren't such a problem any more .

I'm aware of that concept was just wondering if it was really that bad... you live there I take it?
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2011, 10:54:42 PM
Yes ma'am, I believe some of the best resources in the United States are in Arkansas Missouri & Oklahoma. Heck, Texas is actually suing Oklahoma for trickle down water rights!  ;)
erv

That's good to know...
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2011, 11:33:49 PM
I don't understand why an area (Ozarks) in such close proximity to the New Madrid Fault would be considered the ultimate safe zone.  Maybe the elevation?  The map calls it a plateau.  I'm about 100 miles upwind from Yellowstone, and I believe I feel about as safe as I would 100 miles from the New Madrid.  Now, if I were downwind from the caldera--say in southwest North Dakota or southeastern Montana--I don't think I'd feel quite so secure.

Barb,  I don't know if it is the ultimate survival zone. I have reason to believe it is one place to go.
•   These are very old mountains and as such may be more stable during the time of the crossover of Planet X. I cannot guarantee it... just a belief.
•   There should be far less volcanism and mountain building than other high spots in the US
•   The zetatalk mentions it. Ozarks shouldn't flood. Safe Locs Doc. sounds like highlands of Arkansas may be preferable to Missouri Ozarks.
•   One good thing is elevation.
•   From what I have read it is a temperate climate.
•   Fertile soil
•   Abundant wildlife. After the catastrophes many life forms will survive.
•   Not a desert.

Yowbarb
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 22, 2011, 11:41:11 PM
The Ozarks will do well in the forthcoming changes, due to their relative isolation from large megalopolis cities and large bodies of water. They are far enough inland to escape the assaults of large tidal waves, drain down onto nearby land rather than be subject to rapidly rising floods waters gathered elsewhere, and their inhabitants in general are simple folk who have not forgotten how to live off the land.

http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx074.htm
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 23, 2011, 12:02:08 AM
http://www.zetatalk.com/info/tinfx074.htm
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 27, 2011, 11:37:13 PM
For those who want to do some scouting around in the Ozarks, here are a few links.
Place to camp with an RV. Not always so cheap but I found two locations where they have discounts.
Sort of a mixture of links, an Ozarks relief map wit a few town names on it.
Names of two campgrounds Branson Missouri and Fayetteville, Arkansas. A little info on rates, always best to call.
Yowbarb
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Fayetteville   Region: Ozarks

Southgate R.V. Park  

Contact:Jerry Patton
Phone: 479-442-2021
Website: http://www.southgatervpark.com

Pets Accepted:

Campsites: 50 RV sites will full hookups
Attractions: Open year-round with caretaker on site
Facilities: Laundry, 30 pull-through sites; accessible bathhouse; free Wi-Fi and cable television, public RV dump station; no limit length
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fayetteville,_AR#Climate  "Fayetteville #7 in list of top places to work live and play." 
Near U of Arkansas. 

Fayetteville, AR
Elevation   1,400 ft (427 m)
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Branson, Missouri
http://www.bransoncampground.com/rates.htm

Long Term*   $260.00 - $275.00
plus Electric**   N/A   N/A
Winter***   $24.00      
For Reservations, Call (800) 968-1300  Elevation about 735 feet.
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Private campgrounds Arkansas  [The numbers are live links.- YB]
http://www.arkansas.com/outdoors/camping/default.aspx?type=Private

http://www.arkansas.com/outdoors/camping/default.aspx?type=Private&city=Burlington

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:OzarkRelief.jpg 

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep/New-Madrid-Fault-Earthquake-Zone.jpg  New Madrid
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: JKB on June 28, 2011, 09:04:43 PM
While I don't have first hand knowledge of this, I understand there is an abundance of caves and caverns all over the Ozarks.  I am taking that on faith as I think our time is running out.  Caves would make an excellent place to ride out the debris trail PX will leave as it exits the solar system.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on June 30, 2011, 07:36:59 AM
I don't understand why an area (Ozarks) in such close proximity to the New Madrid Fault would be considered the ultimate safe zone.  Maybe the elevation?  The map calls it a plateau.  I'm about 100 miles upwind from Yellowstone, and I believe I feel about as safe as I would 100 miles from the New Madrid.  Now, if I were downwind from the caldera--say in southwest North Dakota or southeastern Montana--I don't think I'd feel quite so secure.

Montanabarb I had thought The Ozarks might be a good area but now rethinking it.
Here is a video BajaSusan posted recently, which states The Ozarks mostly limestone and a far better area is the Appalachians in the state of West Virginia.
- Yowbarb

And this video warning Not to go to the Ozarks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSEtZUs5bcg


Susan,
Interesting... very discouraging about going to Ozarks.
I wish it went into more of a scientific explanation but it may be true.
Per wikipedia the Ozarks are mostly limestone. Appalachians more stable according to the video.

Yowbarb
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: jlowe1986 on July 03, 2011, 12:33:21 PM
I thought west Virgina would be a bad place to go cause of all the nuclear power plants on the east coast
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: jlowe1986 on July 03, 2011, 12:47:15 PM
we also live in the kansas city area and plan on going to the ozarks and are looking for other people to talk to and meet up to make a plan, start a group and pool our resources together. so anyone wanting to join us, help us or do this to please pm me
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: noproblemo2 on July 03, 2011, 12:57:23 PM
Common Sense Reasons for STAYING AWAY from the OZARKS.... *caves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDcXDbg8yJg

Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: VillageIdiot on July 05, 2011, 06:16:44 AM
Good video Susan! Mike asks some really good objective questions. Coincidentally, here is a very objective video created by Dutchsinse yesterday (07/04/2011) explaining why people should NOT move into the Ozark caves: http://www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse#p/u/5/j7YlPSMaa3A
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on July 05, 2011, 09:57:21 AM
I thought west Virgina would be a bad place to go cause of all the nuclear power plants on the east coast

Here are a couple images for those who are not familiar with these locations,
Thanks,
Yowbarb

Page Last Reviewed/Updated Saturday, March 12, 2011


http://www.nukepills.com/nuclear-reactor-maps.htm
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Mrhappy on July 05, 2011, 12:51:38 PM
Lol that map is fun, its like playing ... lets hang out and get cooked!
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: VillageIdiot on July 05, 2011, 02:31:01 PM
Lol that map is fun, its like playing ... lets hang out and get cooked!
;D  ;D  ;D

After watching the red circles flash on & off I find it's even more comforting living in Colorado.  ;)
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: noproblemo2 on July 05, 2011, 02:56:11 PM
Lol that map is fun, its like playing ... lets hang out and get cooked!
;D  ;D  ;D

After watching the red circles flash on & off I find it's even more comforting living in Colorado.  ;)
I would think so VI
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on July 06, 2011, 06:45:00 AM
Lol that map is fun, its like playing ... lets hang out and get cooked!

Mr. Happy, I just found that map recently.
The situation is worse than I had thought.
It doesn't show nuke plants in WV specifically but it is true there are a lot of plants over to the east and
south of WV.
Not many "completely safe" areas at all, so people have to do whatever they can. We just need to make sure
we are not in the way of the big waves, and that there is an underground or at least partially - buried structure
to get into so we won't blow away. On the Town Hall, we have had lots of discussions on things to do or
safeguards to take to help ward off the radiation. There is always hope...
Yowbarb

Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: enlightenme on July 06, 2011, 09:06:23 AM
Mr Happy...I don't think you would find it so funny if you were stuck in that area without any way or means out.  You're talking about alot of folks lives out here....
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: enlightenme on July 06, 2011, 09:58:41 AM
Sorry, maybe I overreacted abit, but I didn't report to moderator anything, atleast not intentionly, because I wouldn't even know how to do that....
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Mrhappy on July 06, 2011, 10:10:58 AM
Mr Happy...I don't think you would find it so funny if you were stuck in that area without any way or means out.  You're talking about alot of folks lives out here....

Well I am very sorry for upsetting you. I was not trying to upset anyone, the map is "theoretical" and is not happening to anyone right now.

Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: noproblemo2 on July 06, 2011, 12:44:31 PM
Mr Happy...I don't think you would find it so funny if you were stuck in that area without any way or means out.  You're talking about alot of folks lives out here....

Well I am very sorry for upsetting you. I was not trying to upset anyone, the map is "theoretical" and is not happening to anyone right now.
MrHappy, the map is to SHOW THE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS that could occur.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on July 06, 2011, 12:48:22 PM
Lol that map is fun, its like playing ... lets hang out and get cooked!
;D  ;D  ;D

After watching the red circles flash on & off I find it's even more comforting living in Colorado.  ;)


Yes, it does appear to be red circle - free.  8)
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Mrhappy on July 06, 2011, 02:14:59 PM
Mr Happy...I don't think you would find it so funny if you were stuck in that area without any way or means out.  You're talking about alot of folks lives out here....

Well I am very sorry for upsetting you. I was not trying to upset anyone, the map is "theoretical" and is not happening to anyone right now.
MrHappy, the map is to SHOW THE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS that could occur.

Yes youre right! =)
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on July 06, 2011, 02:20:24 PM
Mr Happy...I don't think you would find it so funny if you were stuck in that area without any way or means out.  You're talking about alot of folks lives out here....

Well I am very sorry for upsetting you. I was not trying to upset anyone, the map is "theoretical" and is not happening to anyone right now.

Mr. Happy I think I know where U R coming from...  :)
I am thinking U R not meaning any harm. 
We will all just keep on keeping on and continue coming to the Town Hall. This is a good place to exchange information... as time goes by people will worry more...
- Yowbarb
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: mjoy on July 06, 2011, 03:55:46 PM
 :) I love his name, "Mr. Happy"!  THAT says everything to me.  I would much rather, in these very, very trying times to come, hang with a fellow human who thinks of himself as "Mr. Happy" than with someone who can not identify with "happy". And just LOOK at that open, friendly face he posts with. 
With all those very big red circles, and depending on which way the winds blow, we are all potentially cooked-that is, for those of us, who have not a bunker, and at least a 5 year supply of water and food. 
I believe NOW is the time to begin practicing being loving as a way to live, because if you do give into fear, you will excuse your hatefulness and project it onto others.  Fear has a way of snowballing into a giant, outta control avalanche. Let us practice random acts of kindness every day. You will feel much better about yourself.  I know I do, when I choose love over fear.  We are really going to be tested very soon.
Bye for now,
mjoy
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: VillageIdiot on July 07, 2011, 05:27:46 AM
This morning on the John Moore Show (thelibertyman.com) John & Lucus are openly discussing Terral03's "plan" and discouraging people from moving to the Ozark caverns!

Live Show: http://republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on July 07, 2011, 05:28:15 AM
Sorry, maybe I overreacted a bit, but I didn't report to moderator anything, at least not intentionally, because I wouldn't even know how to do that....

Good morning, enlightenme,  :)
Yowbarb
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: noproblemo2 on July 07, 2011, 06:00:37 AM
This morning on the John Moore Show (thelibertyman.com) John & Lucus are openly discussing Terral03's "plan" and discouraging people from moving to the Ozark caverns!

Live Show: http://republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html
Just glad people are seeing the danger in his plans and openly discussing it.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Yowbarb on July 07, 2011, 06:37:14 AM
This morning on the John Moore Show (thelibertyman.com) John & Lucus are openly discussing Terral03's "plan" and discouraging people from moving to the Ozark caverns!

Live Show: http://republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html

(I messaged you about it too) Does Terral plan to go into caves there?
I have never considered that a solution...
Now I am wondering how safe the area is.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: noproblemo2 on July 07, 2011, 07:01:11 AM
This morning on the John Moore Show (thelibertyman.com) John & Lucus are openly discussing Terral03's "plan" and discouraging people from moving to the Ozark caverns!

Live Show: http://republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html

(I messaged you about it too) Does Terral plan to go into caves there?
I have never considered that a solution...
Now I am wondering how safe the area is.
Yes he has gone to those caves with his "group" bad idea as they are shale, so not safe by any means.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: JKB on July 07, 2011, 08:06:33 PM
OK, this is disturbing.  So, what are all of us who have spent much time reading the Zeta's and their "safe locations" information and who were planning on heading to the Ozarks supposed to do???  I certainly would not blame them if the Ozarks turned out to not be a safe location as I wouldn't have come up with that location on my own.  Moreover, I do not think they would intervene in any man-made plans that changed their original report.  But, I also took the time to read everything they had to say about the rest of the country and it's fate and I don't see very many options for those of us in the Kansas City area.  East will be impossible...  To the south is the Ozarks...  The southwest offers the northern part of Texas but they specifically said to avoid New Mexico if you lack large amounts of water, supplies, etc...  East offers Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska to various degrees but none provide natural cover, protection from floods, and will be inundated with unprepared survivors from the Gulf Coast states.  That leaves the North and Northwest for all of us...  They did not go into specifics but left the impression that neither is a particularly attractive option...  hmmmm...  I knew of the earthquake ramifications in the Ozarks but was not planning on spending them in a cave.  I was hopeful of finding a cave merely to survive the passing of PX and the debris it will leave in it's wake.  Still worth risking if they were the only factors... However, I have no wish whatsoever to encounter "law enforcement agents/federal agents/secret squirrel agents..."  That was an outstanding idea to present.  I planned on avoiding all of the above but did not even consider that the Ozarks would be saturated with them.  Hmmmm....  We need to collectively think about this and start making plans.  One of you sent me a personal message a few days ago and I apologize for not getting back with you sooner.  I work a lot of hours in my job. I got it and very much want to talk.  I will contact you soon.  I think the rest of us should all be getting in touch and sharing ideas and plans as soon as possible.  I will be in touch and anyone is free to respond to this with any good ideas...   stay safe ladies and gents.

JKB
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: G E Miller on July 09, 2011, 05:24:21 AM
This morning on the John Moore Show (thelibertyman.com) John & Lucus are openly discussing Terral03's "plan" and discouraging people from moving to the Ozark caverns!

Live Show: http://republicbroadcasting.org/shoutcast/shoutcast.html

(I messaged you about it too) Does Terral plan to go into caves there?
I have never considered that a solution...
Now I am wondering how safe the area is.
Yes he has gone to those caves with his "group" bad idea as they are shale, so not safe by any means.

I've just been a ghost here for the most part, and haven't commented on anything at all regarding the Ozarks.  However, I live about 4 hours from the Lake of the Ozarks and have spent many, many days on the lake throughout the past 40 years.  I love central/south-central Missouri and even looked for property in the Lesterville/Ironton area as far back as the 80's - made many trips there touring properties with realtors.  Used to float trip on the Black, Jacks Fork and Meramec rivers alot.  I like the area of the Country so much that my novels are placed in the St. Louis and southwest area of STL in the "hills" approaching the Ozarks, and (strangely enough), I began the New Madrid Trilogy in 1993.  Specifically, the storyline is about the fault giving way and what happens to Memphis and St. Louis and that part of the region following a 9.0.   

Having said that, after doing much research through the 80's and 90's on the New Madrid faultline and its history, underlying geology in the region, and considering the fault's proximity to the Ozark mountains section of Missouri, I've wondered if the Ozarks - especially CAVES - is a completely sane idea.  Please don't misunderstand, I'm not raining on anyone's parade, but I feel compelled to ask anyone who's planning on the Ozarks to explain it to me better than I currently understand it.  Thanks much in advance.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: deno on September 18, 2012, 11:21:19 PM
Hello.  Does anyone know how to get in touch with Ekratz?
He says he has a bunker in the Ozarks which I would like to help support in exchange for a possible safe place.
Much Love, Deno
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: Ekratz on September 19, 2012, 07:21:50 AM
I am EKratz, and a woman for the person who wants to contact me.  My e-mail is elizabethkratz63@yahoo.com. After reading the above messages, I am surprised.  I have done my research also.  It was expensive to place an underground shelter in the Ozark area as the rock was very hard to blast.  It is not shale that they blasted out.  If and when a 9.0 earthquake ocurs along the New Madrid fault, we are in the area that will be of minimul damage.  We are also located in an area where no lakes,rivers will flood us out. Let me tell you that we are about 40 minutes from Bull Shoals and a cave in that small town has exited far past the last passover according to what they have studied. I am far enough away from St Louis that I do not worry.  Our underground shelter measures from 10feet by 40 feet, and we do have a toilet and sink, and my husband and I have about 1 years worth of food.  We have also collected MANY copper pennies and silver as well for future bartering. Yes we will be glad to talk to any interested parties about a safe place. Please feel free to e-mail me. We are also about 800 feet above sea level. At present we have a 5th wheel, a septic system for it and the shelter, and also electric.  I have attempted square foot gardening this summer and it was great.  However, I had to leave and come back to Florida early, as I broke my leg.  My closest neighbor is reaping my garder's benefilts.  The closest town of size is 1 hour drive away, so we have few neighbors.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: deno on September 19, 2012, 09:23:43 AM
Elizabeth,
Please check your e-mail and let me if you have not received my response.  I wish to meet you and employ a plan. Much love.  You may know me as Deno but mt real name is Deniece.
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place: Bug-out location for PTB?
Post by: R.R. Book on January 16, 2019, 05:40:55 AM
Have been hearing discussions of a significant federal contingency congregating in the Ozarks, and around 18:30 into Marfoogle News this morning, a mansion for relocating the White House was named - not a historic property, but a newly built one in Christian County, MO.  Most interesting are the details of new tornado-proof building materials used.

I checked, and could not find any definitive statement online about Pensmore being the new White House location, but it's something to file away in the backs of our minds, especially for those planning to bug out to the Ozarks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensmore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn4wjkIcM00 (Marfoogle telecast)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfFpbuWvquU (aerial footage)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK499A8EUzo (tour)

(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/a563d422a60fb8f18d68cdfb13f0acd1a809f777/c=222-0-4191-2984/local/-/media/2018/07/02/Springfield/Springfield/636661395400578635-tAerials00041.jpg?width=520&height=390&fit=crop)
The Pensmore Mansion still under construction
Title: Re: The Ozarks Meeting Place
Post by: ilinda on January 16, 2019, 06:25:16 PM
This "home" really does appear resistant to "stuff".  In the aerial view, it just has the look of total solidity.  And in the tour, it is obvious they are paying for the very best of whatever they are building or making. What a monster!  Beautiful but monstrous.