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EARTH CHANGES / Re: Earthquakes General - 2020
« Last post by Jimfarmer on Today at 11:57:06 AM »
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USGS and EMSC do not agree. Reporting data from both.
Earthquake totals in last 24 hours (ending 10AM EST) according to:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
38 'quakes of magnitude >2.4 ⋅ Total mags = 128.9 ⋅ Avg mag = 3.39 ⋅ (*)

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/?filter=yes
144 'quakes of magnitude >2.4 ⋅ Total mags = 486.2 ⋅ Avg mag = 3.38 ⋅ Median mag = 3.3

(*) Magnitude >2.4 in USA, and >4.4 elsewhere. (>2.4 worldwide not available).  Note: that criterion is not applied consistently everywhere.

USGS has 7 'quakes of mag. >4.4, and EMSC has 10.
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Three strongest 'quakes from either site (plus one):
* Mag. 5.4  NE of Greenland and north of Svalbard, which is north of Norway (EMSC.  USGS: 5.2).
* Mag. 5.1  off the coast central of Chile (both sites).
* Mag. 4.8  in mid-east north Indonesia (both sites).
* Mag. 4.8  in mid-east mid-south Tajikistan (both sites).

Largest groups of multiple 'quakes from either site:
*  29  in southern Mexico;  max mag. 4.2 in south central (EMSC.  USGS: 0).
*  26  in Indonesia (Papua, mid-east, central, and west);  max mag. 4.8 in mid-east north (EMSC.  USGS: 4 incl. M4.4).
*  13  in Puerto Rico region;  max mag. 3.5 NW of the NW corner of PR (both sites).  (**)
*  12  in Chile incl. 1 nearby in Bolivia;  max mag. 5.1 off the coast central of Chile (EMSC.  USGS: 2 incl. M4.2).
*  12  in Turkey and nearby offshore;  max mag. 4.0 in east mid-south (EMSC.  USGS: 0).  (*)
*  10  in Greece region incl. 1 nearby in Albania;  max mag. 3.3 in central mid-west and central Greece (EMSC.  USGS: 0).
*  8  in Alaska;  max mag. 3.5 in central south (USGS.  EMSC: 4).
*  5  in Iran incl. 1 nearby in each of Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan;  max mag. 3.9 in north mid-west Iran (EMSC.  USGS: 0).

*  3  in and/or around each of: ⋅ Italy region westward,  Philippines,  and north mid-west Mexico ⋅ (at least one source site each).

(*) 1 'quake nearby in Iran is counted in another line.
(**) 1 'quake technically in Dominican Republic territory is counted with a cluster NW of Puerto Rico.

Notes:
* The max mag. for each line can be from the site with the least number of 'quakes.
* Counts >2 in Argentina are now reported separately from Chile unless they are all nearby Chile.  Any that are near to Chile are on the eastern slope of the Andes.

Comment: USGS's exclusion of magnitudes <4.5 outside of USA fails to reveal groups of 'quakes of increasing significance (e.g, Australia, Mexico).  Note that that criterion is not applied consistently everywhere (see underlined values, if any).
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From USGS (USA all 'quakes, separate data capture, 24 hours ending 10AM EST 18/Feb/20):

* 109 'quakes of all magnitudes in California (only) (max mag. 2.9).
* 36 'quakes of all magnitudes in Puerto Rico region (max mag. 3.5).
* 33 'quakes of all magnitudes in Alaska and nearby in Canada (max mag. 3.2).
* 20 'quakes of all magnitudes in Hawaii (max mag. 2.5).
* 6 'quakes of all magnitudes in Oklahoma and nearby in Kansas (max mag. 2.3).
* 4 'quakes of all magnitudes in Nevada (max mag. 1.4).

* 1 or 2 'quakes of any magnitudes in: Washington, western Texas, and NW Tennessee (max mag. 3.9 in TX).

> No 'quakes of any magnitude in Yellowstone Park (NW Wyoming plus strips of Montana and Idaho).
+ 1 'quake of all magnitudes near to New Madrid in SE Missouri (mag. 2.0).

[IMAGE Feb18-2020_all_quakes_USA_24hrs_ending_10AM-EST-Feb18-2020.JPG]
Note: Quarry blasts and explosions, if any, are shown on the map but not included in the 'quake counts above.
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From EMSC (two separate data captures; 'quake counts are not necessarily consistent):
* 77 earthquakes of magnitude >1.9 in last 24 hours in Euro-Med region, according to http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/Map/zoom.php?key=1&typ=world#2
[IMAGE Feb18-2020_quakes_min-mag-2_Iberia_to_Iran_per_EMSC_24-Hrs_Feb18-2020.jpg]  has 74 'quakes.
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Right, and Quercetin is also in the pulp, another supplement for immunity building.

With Ms. Edwards' professional connections to the Mayo Clinic, and therefore to established members of the medical community who practice on the cutting edge of the nutritional healing knowledge base, it would seem that she would not be alone in her awareness of threats to health sovereignty.

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PREPAREDNESS / Re: Allan Savory
« Last post by ilinda on February 17, 2020, 06:29:49 PM »

- disturbance of earth is key and soil benefit trumps that of plants and animals
- grazing should be planned, and that intelligently [what Savory calls "holistically" (keeping recuperation of plants, local demands and other variables in mind)]
- herd behavior is key to disturbance of earth
- herd density is key to both disturbance and herd behavior
- benefit to the farmer (i.e. applying the above principles) is essential, for if the farmer fails, the corporation comes in [like a friggin' virus laying in wait]
This has probably been mentioned before, but when I read all this stuff about mob grazing, soil disturbance, etc., I always think about how the American Bison was a master as all of what is needed for healthy soils and ecosystems.

It is said that they shape and configuration of bison hooves, being different from that of cattle, allows their hooves to penetrate deeper, yet do less damage than cattle.  And if you've ever seen a herd of bison who has been spooked, or just maybe spooked themselves, you'll see them thunder across an area just like it appeared in the movies when you were a kid!  And then when they're calm, they slow down and continue grazing. 

It is my understanding that the reason conventional cattle farmers must "brush-hog" or disc their fields once a year is to help eradicate or at least keep at bay the constant array of sapling and seedling trees that keep cropping up.  Apparently bison's hooves demolished  the roots and shoots of the little trees, and modern-day disc-ing is a feeble attempt to mimic bison hooves.  And anyone with goats, llamas, alpacas, etc., will have the same problem with trees sprouting everywhere, and will be tied to once-yearly brush-hogging or disciing.  Maybe bison would be better than goats, at least for the land.
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SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF / Re: Self-care during the Coronavirus epidemic:
« Last post by ilinda on February 17, 2020, 06:08:32 PM »
Interestingly, now that Ms. Edwards' lab has determined that Novel Coronavirus is programmed to prevent glutathione, the master anti-oxidant, from functioning in the body, leaving people wide open for attack from whatever the latest designer virus might happen to be, we now see yet another open attack on glutathione - this time by politicians.

Michael of Evolutionary Energy Arts quotes a Health Impact News article dated today, saying that the California legislature not only wants to outlaw access to glutathione, but also alpha-lipoic acid, acetyl-l-carnitine, co-Q-10 and B12 shots. 


What ever happened to the Golden State with its health-conscious people whom we picture sun bathing and drinking fruit smoothies in their spare time?  And why yet another assault on people from a state that has already suffered unimaginably in recent years?

B-12 shots are of proven benefit to many elderly persons, being capable of reversing more than one debilitating condition in a rather short amount of time.  Alpha-lipoic acid in combination with acetyl-l-carnitine may be one of the few vetted silver bullets vs. dementia and a host of other aging-related  disorders.  These supplements are well-studied and cited in peer reviewed journals, and so many reports are posted on NIH/NCBI that listing them all here would crash Marshall's website.

Don't California legislators have better things to concern themselves with?  Who is pushing this discussion forward?  More than just a war against the health sovereignty of Californians in general, this seems specifically targeted at the elderly. 


Maybe it's time for yet another work-around for glutathione.  We can raise levels naturally by:

*getting more glycine through gelatin and lecithin / choline

*supplementing with a mineral ascorbate form of vitamin C

*taking 3mg melatonin at bedtime

*eating tart cherries and drinking tart cherry juice

*taking milk thistle to help optimize liver storage and utilization of glutathione

More here:


Doesn't it just get weirder and weirder?!  It is starting to look obvious that "they" don't even want people to have supplements which can help them out of a potentially lethal disease. 

Also, isn't it interesting how much more open Sharry Edwards is about the agenda to kill a bunch of people.  I was actually shocked that she was so upfront about it, sort of like a lot of people speak in private about how "they're trying to kill a bunch of us", but she certainly has more nerve than many of us to say it, knowing it will end up on youtube.  But her scientific awareness and special skills and abilities are solidly behind what she says, especially when she describes the frequencies of the protein coat, as well as the core of the novel Coronavirus (n-Co2019?), and how the combination would not appear in Nature.    Too interesting for words.

Your posts have made me aware that she was working so diligently on this virus!  I had no idea, and assumed she was still quietly doing readings or assessments of various clients, and being way back in the background.  One thing she mentioned was that there's a good amount of glutathione in the white pulpy innards of grapefruit, and IIRC, she said that's one of her sources. 
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SURVIVALIST HEAL THYSELF / Re: Self-care during the Coronavirus epidemic:
« Last post by R.R. Book on February 17, 2020, 05:02:12 PM »
Interestingly, now that Ms. Edwards' lab has determined that Novel Coronavirus is programmed to prevent glutathione, the master anti-oxidant, from functioning in the body, leaving people wide open for attack from whatever the latest designer virus might happen to be, we now see yet another open attack on glutathione - this time by politicians.

Michael of Evolutionary Energy Arts quotes a Health Impact News article dated today, saying that the California legislature not only wants to outlaw access to glutathione, but also alpha-lipoic acid, acetyl-l-carnitine, co-Q-10 and B12 shots. 


What ever happened to the Golden State with its health-conscious people whom we picture sun bathing and drinking fruit smoothies in their spare time?  And why yet another assault on people from a state that has already suffered unimaginably in recent years?

B-12 shots are of proven benefit to many elderly persons, being capable of reversing more than one debilitating condition in a rather short amount of time.  Alpha-lipoic acid in combination with acetyl-l-carnitine may be one of the few vetted silver bullets vs. dementia and a host of other aging-related  disorders.  These supplements are well-studied and cited in peer reviewed journals, and so many reports are posted on NIH/NCBI that listing them all here would crash Marshall's website.

Don't California legislators have better things to concern themselves with?  Who is pushing this discussion forward?  More than just a war against the health sovereignty of Californians in general, this seems specifically targeted at the elderly. 


Maybe it's time for yet another work-around for glutathione.  We can raise levels naturally by:

*getting more glycine through gelatin and lecithin / choline

*supplementing with a mineral ascorbate form of vitamin C

*taking 3mg melatonin at bedtime

*eating tart cherries and drinking tart cherry juice

*taking milk thistle to help optimize liver storage and utilization of glutathione

More here:


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Latest headlines since the previous lists in this topic, most recent first from each source.

From   https://www.earthfiles.com/
*  February 17, 2020  Monday 9:30 AM Update: 71,449 Confirmed COVID-19 Cases and 1,776 Deaths; 300+ American Diamond Princess Cruise Passengers Land At Lackland AFB Early This Morning with 14 More COVID-19 Newly Infected Patients Who Will Be Quarantined Again, Raising U.S. Confirmed Cases to 29.

From    https://watchers.news/category/earth-changes/
*  Storm Dennis enters history books as the second-strongest North Atlantic extratropical cyclone, causes major flooding in the United Kingdom

From https://www.sott.net/category/4
*  Adapt 2030 Ice Age Report: Antarctica increasing heat, Arctic increasing ice - Earth's poles behaving strangely
*  Storm Dennis, 2nd-strongest bomb cyclone on record in North Atlantic, causes severe flooding in UK

*  India's birds suffering dramatic population declines, warns scientific report
*  Ice balls appear on Lake Michigan beach, wash up 'by the thousands' [USA]
*  2 men killed in large avalanche in Colorado  [USA]
** 6-year-old girl attacked by mountain lion while walking trail in Santa Clara County, California [USA]
*  Half a million mussels found dead on New Zealand beach
*  Giant ice wall appears on China-Russia border lake, over 20 meters tall
[ATTACHMENT Feb17-2020_ice_crawling_ashore_Xingkai-Lake_China_Feb12-2020.jpg]
*  Six-meter-high snow blankets northwestern Iran
*  UK braced for record flooding as Storm Dennis dumps month's worth of rain in 24 hours

Nothing new in:
  (none)
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EARTH CHANGES / Re: Earthquakes General - 2020
« Last post by Jimfarmer on February 17, 2020, 12:06:02 PM »
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USGS and EMSC do not agree. Reporting data from both.
Earthquake totals in last 24 hours (ending 10AM EST) according to:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
50 'quakes of magnitude >2.4 ⋅ Total mags = 173.6 ⋅ Avg mag = 3.47 ⋅ (*)

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/?filter=yes
127 'quakes of magnitude >2.4 ⋅ Total mags = 430.7 ⋅ Avg mag = 3.39 ⋅ Median mag = 3.3

(*) Magnitude >2.4 in USA, and >4.4 elsewhere. (>2.4 worldwide not available).  Note: that criterion is not applied consistently everywhere.

USGS has 13 'quakes of mag. >4.4, and EMSC has 13.
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Three strongest 'quakes from either site (plus one):
* Mag. 5.5  north of the NE corner of New Zealand (both sites).
* Mag. 5.4  east of the southern tip of Japan and north of Northern Mariana Islands (both sites).
* Mag. 5.2  in north mid-east Chile (both sites).
* Mag. 5.2  in south central South Atlantic Ocean, ESE of the tip of So. America (both sites).

Largest groups of multiple 'quakes from either site:
*  28  in southern Mexico;  max mag. 4.2 off the west coast south (EMSC.  USGS: 0).
*  25  in Puerto Rico region;  max mag. 3.6 off the south coast mid-west (USGS.  EMSC: 24).
*  12  in Turkey;  max mag. 4.4 in mid-east mid-south (EMSC.  USGS: 1 @M4.0).  (*)  (**)
*  10  in Indonesia (Papua, mid-east, central, mid-west, and west);  max mag. 4.9 in mid-east central Papua (EMSC.  USGS: 2).
*  9  in Chile incl. 3 nearby in Argentina;   max mag. 5.2 in north mid-east Chile (EMSC.  USGS: 1).
*  6  in Iran incl. 1 nearby in Azerbaijan;  max mag. 4.7 in west north Iran (EMSC.  USGS: 2 incl. M4.0).
*  4  in California USA incl. 1 nearby in Mexico;  max mag. 3.3 in northern Baja California, Mexico (both sites).

*  3  in and/or around each of: ⋅ west of Portugal,  and Greece region ⋅ (at least one source site each).

(*) 2 'quakes nearby in Iran are counted in another line.
(**) 1 'quake east of Crete, Greece, and south of western Turkey is counted with Greece.

Notes:
* The max mag. for each line can be from the site with the least number of 'quakes.
* Counts >2 in Argentina are now reported separately from Chile unless they are all nearby Chile.  Any that are near to Chile are on the eastern slope of the Andes.

Comment: USGS's exclusion of magnitudes <4.5 outside of USA fails to reveal groups of 'quakes of increasing significance (e.g, Australia, Mexico).  Note that that criterion is not applied consistently everywhere (see underlined values, if any).
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From USGS (USA all 'quakes, separate data capture, 24 hours ending 10AM EST 17/Feb/20):

* 116 'quakes of all magnitudes in California, nearby in Nevada, and nearby in Mexico (max mag. 3.3).
* 43 'quakes of all magnitudes in Puerto Rico region (max mag. 3.6).
* 35 'quakes of all magnitudes in Alaska (max mag. 4.7).
* 18 'quakes of all magnitudes in Hawaii (max mag. 2.4).
* 6 'quakes of all magnitudes in Oklahoma (max mag. 2.5).

* 1 or 2 'quakes of any magnitudes in: western Texas (only) (max mag. 2.9).

> No 'quakes of any magnitude in Yellowstone Park (NW Wyoming plus strips of Montana and Idaho).
> EMSC has 1 'quake of M2.7 in Canada near to New York.

[IMAGE Feb17-2020_all_quakes_USA_24hrs_ending_10AM-EST-Feb17-2020.JPG]
Note: Quarry blasts and explosions, if any, are shown on the map but not included in the 'quake counts above.
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From EMSC (two separate data captures; 'quake counts are not necessarily consistent):
* 64 earthquakes of magnitude >1.9 in last 24 hours in Euro-Med region, according to http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/Map/zoom.php?key=1&typ=world#2
[IMAGE Feb17-2020_quakes_min-mag-2_Iberia_to_Iran_per_EMSC_24-Hrs_Feb17-2020.jpg]  has 53 'quakes.
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EARTH CHANGES / Re: Disease Outbreaks
« Last post by R.R. Book on February 17, 2020, 07:24:06 AM »
One of the greatest ironies in this situation, as we've briefly mentioned before, is that there may actually be no infectious germ directly involved, since China has already turned on 5G in its cities, and others have followed suit.  Note that reports persistently say that the microbiological lab tests don't work - meaning they don't detect an infectious organism.  We're living in a time when it's now scientifically possible - with very little difficulty - to learn the frequency of any harmful organism and mimic that through fairly simple and straightforward technology.

Another irony is that this technology may also have been discovered and implemented in the distant past, and we've just rediscovered it in present time. 

In either case, this would mean that we've entered an era in which only those who know how to protect themselves at the sub-atomic frequency level may survive.

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PREPAREDNESS / Allan Savory
« Last post by Socrates on February 17, 2020, 12:26:06 AM »
Recalling Gabe Brown's discussion of how soon to reintroduce cattle onto an area again,  he said rainfall and water conditions are really important.  For example, IIRC, he said he keeps the animals off of a given plot (after they've "ravaged" it) for something like 13 or 16 months, where it's very dry, but in places with much regular rainfall, he said it may be as short as a few months.

Good discussion/dissection, BTW, of Savory vs. Salatin.
Thanks, Linda. And you made a good point on keeping animals off of a given plot for long lengths of time in certain conditions, for that may indeed be appropriate in arid regions. Or it may not...
for if disturbing the land is so important [i.e. according to Savory], then leading your herd over land isn't always about them feeding there or letting plant life recuperate.
At the same time, though, Gabe Brown's example does underline Savory's reason why he is against using the term "rotational grazing" [or practicing it], since Savory stresses that there are simply many more variables at play when planning the grazing of your animals. He stresses that all systems fail, except in the most forgiving environments / circumstances [situations that are very predictable].

Listening to him talk for hours, disturbance is key. He has many examples of people putting in years of applying his principles of planned grazing but somehow not getting much in the way of results. So apparently this set him on considering what's missing. And apparently one can plan the hell out of one's animals' grazing but still come away with little advantage... until one focuses on disturbance. (After all, the planned grazing is good for the plants, but ideally you're at least also looking to what's good for the soil.)

 
I'm not finished looking into the finer details of his research and will order his book Holistic Management asap, as well as the book his work's based on, Grass Productivity by André Voisin.
However, i ran into this article written by Savory and found the writing pompous and overbearing... This triggers the rebel in me, which one might find ironic since Savory himself seems quite the rebel when it comes to agrarian and animal husbandry practices. Anyway, i'm thinking maybe the world needs someone to make Savory's knowledge and ideas palatable. Which, again, is ironic since Savory himself includes aspects like local wants, traditions and regulation as part of holistic management.
It begs the question: Does Savory need someone to objectively consider his work, insights and knowledge in a way that is fresh and objective?

Quoting one source, Savory's holistic planned grazing involves:
- brittleness scale [how much drought/year]
- whole natural systems [nature v culture]
- predator relationship [herd behavior], and
- timing [many people use the terms rotational grazing and mob grazing interchangeably with Holistic Planned Grazing. They are not the same and the fundamental difference is the insight of timing]

In the above source, disturbance is not mentioned as a chief component [mob grazing is mentioned later on, but not as a key feature of holistic planned grazing]. And maybe this has to do with Savory's pompous and overbearing stance, for he's been promoting his holistic planned grazing literally for decades but is honest enough to go out into the field and see (and share) when progress isn't all that impressive [at least not as impressive as is possible]. So then there's me, listening for hours, trying to understand why and how Savory's methods might work, and getting the distinct impression that maybe Savory's suffering from the law of the handicap of a head start. [This principle is originally by a Dutchman and truly sounds much better in Dutch. Y'all English need to find a better term, for in historical contexts it is a principle that comes back again and again. Anyway...]
Fact is, Savory has been at this gig for like half a century and his past comes back to bite him in the arse. He has learned by now what's what but that took time and effort, i.e. a lifetime's work. And god bless him for his perserverence and fortitude! Nonetheless, his efforts today seem hampered by the fact that Google searches and the like don't distinguish between Savory's insights a decade ago compared to what they are now. And since most folks aren't as diligent in their research as your's truly [ :P], things get unclear. So...

The work of Allan Savory as far as i get it [and how i wish i could get his feedback on my conclusions]:
- disturbance of earth is key and soil benefit trumps that of plants and animals
- grazing should be planned, and that intelligently [what Savory calls "holistically" (keeping recuperation of plants, local demands and other variables in mind)]
- herd behavior is key to disturbance of earth
- herd density is key to both disturbance and herd behavior
- benefit to the farmer (i.e. applying the above principles) is essential, for if the farmer fails, the corporation comes in [like a friggin' virus laying in wait]


From a survival / prep point of view i feel i should reiterate at this point: arid and semi-arid regions / locations are where both hungry masses and government won't come calling. Therefore, being able to utilize their potential is vital to survival in a world in which one might be beset by others.
So-called common knowledge and conventional / corporative practices have warped popular thought, convincing us that the deserts of the world are some kind of act of God; they are not; they are man-made, brought about by man's ignorance and hubris.
Billions of people around the world believe their region isn't good enough for farming. They are clearly wrong. Modern masters like Joel Salatin, Geoff Lawton, Allan Savory and others have proven them wrong. But there is good in that for preppers, for where the ignorant masses dare not tread is where we might be safe.
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