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I was off my usual path of travel recently, and ended up doing a little grocery shopping at a Giant store which has always been staffed by friendly small-town people. 

Was taken by surprise this time when a robot paused to scan my image in the produce section, and then later blocked me from turning a corner with my cart to continue onto another aisle. 

Also, gone were all the friendly people at the check-out lines, having been replaced with self-checkout.

Here's a film taken by someone else of a similar robot in another Giant grocery store:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r-_HPDqB2Q

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Latest headlines since the previous lists in this topic, most recent first from each source.


From   https://www.earthfiles.com/
*  August 21, 2019 Part 10: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases   “You’re going to see some highly classified equipment. At this time, we have some saucer craft that have been gathered in the United States from New Mexico and we have other craft that have been gathered from around the world.”  “Col. Jim,” USAF, Area 51, Nevada
*  August 20, 2019  Part 9: Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases ... “After the medical people cut off the top of the skull, you could see two brain hemispheres, but instead of having a solid brain like humans, it looked like a lot of branches. We called those aliens ‘branch brains.’”  “Stein,” Former Army/CIA UFO Analyst

From   https://watchers.news/category/earth-changes/
*  Shallow M6.0 earthquake hits Western Indian-Antarctic Ridge
*  Unprecedented wildfire rips through the island of Gran Canaria, Spain

From   https://www.sott.net/category/4
*  More than half a billion bees dropped dead in Brazil within 3 months
*  Rare, deep water-dwelling Hubbs' beaked whale found dead at Point Reyes, California [USA]
*  Northern Italy: Fruit and vegetables devastated by heavy weather in Brescia area
*  Shallow 6.0 magnitude earthquake hits Western Indian-Antarctic Ridge
** Girl mauled to death by 3 pit bulls in Detroit [Michigan, USA]
*  Cow fatally struck by lightning caught on camera in Murrayville, Illinois [USA]
*  Flash floods in Valencia Region, Spain after 40mm of rain in less than 1 hour

*  Amazon ablaze: Record number of wildfires, as smoke chokes cities 3000km away [Brazil]
*  Microburst filmed bombing Lake Balaton in Hungary
*  It's Snowing in August all over the world
*  Waterspout filmed in Bay St Louis, Mississippi [USA]
*  Waterspout filmed in Langkawi, Malaysia
*  August rainfall brings UK wheat harvest to 'shuddering halt'
*  Adapt 2030 Ice Age Report: Unusual snows in Australia but not due to warming oceans

Nothing new in:
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Animal Husbandry / Re: Beekeeping in the Tribulation and Aftertimes
« Last post by R.R. Book on Today at 12:56:18 PM »
Dozens of homemade grease patties for winter bee feeding and herbal medication.  They are sandwiched between waxed paper sheets, cut into squares for quick feeding, sealed in a zip-lock bag and placed in the freezer:

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EARTH CHANGES / Re: Earthquakes General - 2019
« Last post by Jimfarmer on Today at 12:03:47 PM »
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USGS and EMSC do not agree. Reporting data from both.
Earthquake totals in last 24 hours according to:

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/
37 'quakes of magnitude >2.4 ⋅ Total mags = 133.4 ⋅ Avg mag = 3.60 (*)

http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/?filter=yes
100 'quakes of magnitude >2.4 ⋅ Total mags = 351.6 ⋅ Avg mag = 3.52

(*) magnitude >2.4 in USA, and >4.4 elsewhere. (>2.4 worldwide not available).
USGS has 13 'quakes of mag. >4.4, and EMSC has 14.
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Three strongest 'quakes from either site:
* Mag. 5.4  in east north Papua New Guinea islands (both sites).
* Mag. 5.0  off the south-east corner of Philippines (both sites).
* Mag. 5.0  between Tasmania (nearest.  SE Australia) and Antarctica (both sites)

Largest groups of multiple 'quakes from either site:
*  27  in Mexico; inland and offshore of the west coast mid-south and south, and mid-south mid-west (EMSC.  USGS: 0).  max mag. 4.0
*  14  in Turkey; west incl. nearby islands, central, and east and nearby in Armenia (EMSC  USGS: 0).  max mag. 3.9
*  10  in California USA; north mid-west, central west, mid-south mid-east and central, and south central (USGS.  EMSC: 9).  max mag. 3.4
*  7  in Chile; north, mid-north, and nearby in Argentina (EMSC.  USGS: 5 @M4.0~4.6).  max mag. 4.6
*  6  in Indonesia (Papua, mid-east, mid-west, and west):  Papua off the south coast mid-west;  mid-east mid-north, and off south coast;  mid-west south;  and west central (EMSC.  USGS: 0).  max mag. 4.1
*  5  in Puerto Rico and Dominican Republic combined regions; east (PR), middle, and west (DR) (EMSC: 3.  USGS: 2.  Duplicates: 0).  max mag. 3.2
*  5  in Alaska; mid-east north, central, off south coast central, upper peninsula east, and SE extension off coast north (USGS.  EMSC: 3).

*  3  in and/or around each of: ⋅ Greece,  and West Australia off NW coast ⋅ (at least one source site each).

Note:  Neither USGS nor EMSC report fully on both Puerto Rico (PR) and Dominican Republic (DR).  Basically, USGS covers PR, and EMSC covers DR, with some possible overlap in locations and magnitudes.  USGS applies different minimum magnitudes to PR and DR, but not consistently.  I have combined PR and DR together as one region and simply recorded totals that USGS and EMSC report for that whole region, and specifying "occupied" internal locations only as west (DR), middle, and east (PR) sections.  Nearby locations included when they occur are Haiti (with DR) and Virgin Islands (with PR).  Duplicates per time and place often have significantly different reported magnitudes and/or depths.

Comment: USGS's exclusion of magnitudes <4.5 outside of USA fails to reveal groups of 'quakes of increasing significance (e.g, Australia, Mexico).  Note that that criterion is not applied consistently everywhere.
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From USGS (all 'quakes, separate data capture, see notes):

334  'quakes of all magnitudes in California and Nevada (max mag. 3.4).
95  'quakes of all magnitudes in Alaska and nearby in Canada (max mag. 2.8).
*  12  'quakes of all magnitudes in Hawaii (max mag. 2.7).

*  Strong 'quakes (mag. > 2.4)  in California (10 Qs), and SE Missouri (USA);  and in Alaska (5 Qs), Hawaii, and Puerto Rico region.

*  Little shakers (mag. 1.0 ~ 2.4) in Idaho, western Montana, NW Wyoming, California, Nevada, Utah, and Oklahoma  (USA);  and in Alaska and nearby in Canada (87 Qs), Hawaii (10 Qs), and Puerto Rico region.

161 little shakers in California and Nevada,  plus MANY smaller ones. (All-magnitude clusters in California: SE of Los Angeles and nearby, mid-north mid-west, and mid-south mid-east.)

*  4 'quakes of all magnitudes in Yellowstone Park (NW Wyoming plus strips of Montana and Idaho) (max mag. 2.1).
+  1 'quake of all magnitudes near to New Madrid, SE Missouri (mag. 2.5)

Notes:  Puerto Rico extended region includes Virgin Islands and nearby in Dom. Repub. region.
Quarry blasts and explosions are excluded from above lists and totals, except where otherwise indicated.
USGS lists some sites near borders as near locations across the border (worldwide).
Earthquake counts less than 3 are not reported, except where otherwise indicated.
The slight delay for the data capture for this sub-section can cause some inconsistencies with the earlier data set.
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From EMSC (three separate data captures):
37 earthquakes of magnitude >1.9 in last 24 hours in Euro-Med region, according to http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/Map/zoom.php?key=1&typ=world#2 (approx. 3 only in Greece, and 22 in Turkey).
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You really can't make this stuff up:

Marfoogle News reports on the Vice story published yesterday, saying that Youtube is targeting videos about robot fights on the grounds of "animal cruelty."

Do we begin to get an idea of who - or what - is responsible for making these decisions?

Is the supposedly objective AI algorithm injecting a bit too much subjectivity into its decision-making process?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YlTzXLkpQo @ around 27:00 (Marfoogle News story)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a35gg8/youtube-removed-videos-of-battlebot-robots-fighting-calling-it-animal-abuse (Vice story)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOZdOmi6iAQ
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I just finished a book There's More To Life Than This by Theresa Caputo, and it relates in some ways to our discussion, as she is able to communicate with spirits, and does so vey easily.  But her skills and talents evolved over time.  Very interesting read, and she emphasized several times she will not work with negative entities/negative spirits.  Apparently she has made it so plain, that they don't "come around" much.
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All Seed Topics Here / Re: SEEDS...
« Last post by R.R. Book on Today at 09:47:12 AM »
Here's a comparison between Cosmonaut Volkov (left) and Stupice (right) tomatoes:


As you can see, the Russian Cosmonaut tomato is beefsteak-size, while Stupice produces golf-ball size.  Both vines are equally sprawling right now, and really should have been pruned weeks ago.  Both are also ripening at the same time.
Truly beautiful specimens.  Have you made a list of characteristics of tomatoes in general, such as taste/flavor,  sweetness, hardiness, ease of growing, productivity, best use such as drying or canning, etc.?  It would be interesting to compare them like that.  Judging from their size, the stupice might be good for salads, and the Cosmonaut Volkov for slicing?

Nice work!

Thanks Ilinda!

That's a good thought.  My issue with growing slicing tomatoes is that they begin to ripen here in late August, just when I'm nearly ready to transition my meal plan away from summer salads and cold sandwiches (we don't use the oven in summer except briefly to melt cheese!).  So I'm getting ready to blanch a batch of these, remove their skins, and either sauce or dice them for winter stews.

The main reason that I'm trialing these is because, since I don't start getting ripe tomatoes until less than two months to our usual first frost date, I'm hoping that these hardier types will continue bearing for a while beyond that point.  And I may need to bring the picked tomatoes indoors to ripen for a while in later Autumn.

What is your experience with that issue in your location?
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All Seed Topics Here / Re: SEEDS...
« Last post by R.R. Book on Today at 09:46:44 AM »
Well, what I refer to as the "root cellar" is really an unheated garage that's partly underground.  Have had success in the past with crates of vegies like you described, with shallow layering. 

Last fall I placed the harvested purple Peruvians in single layers on wood & wire stacking bins, and kept them in the cool and dark down there, but they still rotted within a couple of months.  That could be due to the fact that other wire stacking bins nearby had apples and onions, and maybe the ripening gasses from those affected the potatoes?
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All Seed Topics Here / Re: SEEDS...
« Last post by ilinda on Today at 09:40:11 AM »
Astounding Ilinda!  Maybe the volunteers are so successful because they've actually had 2 seasons to establish themselves, creating a network of mycelium in order to wick up and utilize probiotics from the soil (per Matt Powers) which supposedly make minerals bio-available to the plants?

(Did I get that sequence right?)
Good point about the extended time they have to sequester minerals and other nutrients from the soil.  It makes me think it might be a good idea to plant at least part of the 2020 seed potatoes this fall, then compare them to the rest of the bed which won't be planted until around April-May 2020, all of which will be harvested around August to September, 2020.

On a related note, I had three beds of Purple Peruvian potatoes this year, and have only dug one.  The oldest bed was the one planted in late 2018, which didn't have time to flower and mature, so I just buried it under lots and lots of hay for this past winter.  They have mostly flowered, and could be dug now, but after reading about optimum temperature for potato storage in Carol Deppe's book, The Resiliant Gardener, I decided to wait as long as possible, so that when the last two beds are dug, it will be cool enough that they can sit in a back, unheated room.  So much to think about.

My own experience is that Purple Peruvians don't root cellar well.  Have you had better luck?  Am thinking of trying the sandbox method this winter, but will need to cover it since the cats like to explore down there... ::)
Our root cellar has not been redone yet, so we just store potatoes in a back, unheated room, that stays just above freezing when it's really cold, and will still remain very cool once the weather changes, so that back room is perfect for Purple Peruvian.  However I'd love the root cellar for large potatoes.

Last year I had several boxes (the size of old-fashioned beer boxes holding 24 cans) full of the Purple P. potatoes, lying in monolayer, with boxes stacked on top each other, and all was covered with cloth for added darkness.  They remained looking in perfect condition even when they were ready to plant.  The only difference I noticed by April is that many were sprouting.  Good.  Hope it works again this year.

Does your root cellar work good for large potatoes?
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All Seed Topics Here / Re: SEEDS...
« Last post by ilinda on Today at 09:30:29 AM »
Here's a comparison between Cosmonaut Volkov (left) and Stupice (right) tomatoes:


As you can see, the Russian Cosmonaut tomato is beefsteak-size, while Stupice produces golf-ball size.  Both vines are equally sprawling right now, and really should have been pruned weeks ago.  Both are also ripening at the same time.
Truly beautiful specimens.  Have you made a list of characteristics of tomatoes in general, such as taste/flavor,  sweetness, hardiness, ease of growing, productivity, best use such as drying or canning, etc.?  It would be interesting to compare them like that.  Judging from their size, the stupice might be good for salads, and the Cosmonaut Volkov for slicing?

Nice work!
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