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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #330 on: August 16, 2018, 08:02:09 PM »
There is a LOT to see there!

Yes, I go on there late at night...in between sleep...
Gotta somehow get some family land...wow i should have done it so long ago...
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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #331 on: September 29, 2018, 06:25:52 AM »
Here is a USGS map of underground aquifer locations, for choosing a location with adequate clean non-surface fresh water:



https://water.usgs.gov/ogw/aquifer/map.html

Referred by: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbMPndlFugg
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« Reply #332 on: January 30, 2019, 05:27:41 PM »
ilinda that's an interesting map. I couldn't figure out where the map legend was or what the colors signify...
Any ideas?

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« Reply #334 on: January 30, 2019, 05:58:08 PM »
Here's the .pdf with map legend:

https://water.usgs.gov/ogw/aquifer/USAaquiferMAP11_17.pdf

Attachment below is not as clear as the .pdf:

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« Reply #335 on: January 30, 2019, 06:03:45 PM »
Yowbarb Note: See the ad, farther below in this post.
This 349 acre parcel and cabin is in very sparsely populated area of western Maine.
Pretty far north in the state, near Baxter State Park.
Per the Tom Lupshu map that area will NOT be inundated.
[ You tube, SurvivalOhio video, Pole Shift Theory Global Coastal Event Map US.
Of course, I personally could not guarantee that area will not flood, but that map is something I keep on my desktop and I take it into consideration.
Also the homesite is on a hilltop.
This parcel is in Maine, part of New England:
Per the zetas:
"The New England states will find themselves bouncing up during the shift, due to the quick ripping of the already separating St. Lawrence Seaway prior to the shift, where the southern states will find themselves pulled under the water prior to the shift. The entire peninsula from central Pennsylvania north, will experience a bounce..."

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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #336 on: January 30, 2019, 06:16:15 PM »
Here's the .pdf with map legend:

https://water.usgs.gov/ogw/aquifer/USAaquiferMAP11_17.pdf

Attachment below is not as clear as the .pdf:

R.R. thank you so much!
Thanks ilinda too for your post

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« Reply #338 on: January 30, 2019, 06:37:50 PM »
Yowbarb Note:
This is Zetatalk about living anywhere near rivers and lakes. 2004
http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf
Pg 69 Great Lakes

"...One should assume, rule of thumb, when along rivers or inland lakes:
- Take the worst case in memory, of flooding. Raise that water level up again so it has risen not  once, but three times. In other words, if the worst case is a 40 foot rise, then assume a 120 foot rise. So this rule of thumb applies to river flooding, but to cover the sloshing that may occur for inland lakes, a different baseline must be taken.
- Inland lakes seldom flood their banks, or drain. Inland lakes may slosh, but are unlikely to rise to the level that rivers will, in that rivers are a temporary store for water, and inland lakes by their nature, a permanent store. But as a rule of thumb one can take their depth, divide by 5, and assume that level of water to be sloshing inland. In every case, then the surrounding land must be analyzed, as to safety.

Are there also rivers flooding nearby, so the wet lands will be soggy and unable to absorb the
slosh? Is the land surrounding the lake dry and hard, so that no water will be held by the soil in mud, but all will become runoff, water on the move? Are the high spots around on rock, such that it will not melt, or is it soft soil that will become a mud-slide, and join the muddy water rather than hold the frightened who are clinging to its topside. Each area has different characteristics, and an analysis must be made accordingly. If you are 50 miles inland from one of the Great Lakes, but in any area that has soft soil so that being 100 feet high does not put you on rock, then you may find yourself part of the muddy Great Lake, being pulled back in a back-slosh. Thus, the variables are endless, and cannot be addressed by ourselves, but must be dealt with by the guidelines we lay out, by those who would survive themselves!"

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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #339 on: January 30, 2019, 07:10:25 PM »
Ohio
Ohio will have a relatively uneventful pole shift, due to its sheltered location nestled against the inland side of the Appalachian Mountains. Problems will ensue in the following months, however, as the rising sea will push inland up from the Mississippi Valley and along the Ohio River. Ohio’s peoples will find themselves repeatedly moving to escape the rising water, pushed into neighboring lands that might not welcome newcomers. With a broad lake before them, and the Appalachian Mountains behind them, they will have but one direction to move - into the mountains. Where these mountains will do well during and after the pole shift, they will soon become crowded with newcomers moving inland from the rising coast and moving inland to escape the rising waters in the Mississippi Valley. Thus, those who wish to settle there should establish a place early in the resettlement process and not wait until they are forced to move.
Pg 69
http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf

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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #340 on: January 31, 2019, 04:02:31 PM »
There is a LOT to see there!

Yes, I go on there late at night...in between sleep...
Gotta somehow get some family land...wow i should have done it so long ago...
Wonder if that 349 acres in post #335 is the one for you?  It sounds inviting for sure!

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Re: Find Your Survival Place: Land ads, misc postings
« Reply #341 on: February 22, 2019, 12:58:04 AM »
There is a LOT to see there!

Yes, I go on there late at night...in between sleep...
Gotta somehow get some family land...wow i should have done it so long ago...
Wonder if that 349 acres in post #335 is the one for you?  It sounds inviting for sure!

It does look appealing...

What I would likely go for is several acres in hill country of Ohio...
https://ohiohillcountry.org/    http://ahoot.org/
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« Reply #342 on: May 29, 2019, 09:24:15 PM »
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Top 10 States for Living Off the Grid
By Tara Dodrill

You can live off the grid just about anywhere, but some locales are more suited for a self-reliant lifestyle than others.
There are many “best places to live off grid” lists floating around on the internet, but the majority of them focus on just one key aspect of setting up an off-grid homestead: weather.

Yes, weather and climate are very important if you plan to use alternative energy to power an off-grid homestead or survival retreat. But only considering how much the sun shines or the wind blows is a recipe for an epic off-grid living fail.

For example, Hawaii tops many lists based upon weather alone. If you are going solar on your off-grid homestead, Hawaii might seem like the perfect choice. But it only takes a slightly closer look at the state to grasp how many negatives living in the state will bring.

In addition to an abundance of year-round sunshine, Hawaii also has a high cost of living, well above average land prices, high population density in most areas because of tourists, and it is under a frequent threat of destructive natural disasters.

Each of the locations in my list of best states to live off the grid are blessed in the following essential categories:
• Land Prices – The cheaper the land, the more you can purchase – or the more money you can save to fund a house or barn building project and/or purchase necessary equipment.

• Off Grid Friendly Laws – All the sunshine in the world won’t help you live off grid if state laws are too strict. There could stringent building codes and required building materials, regulations against disconnecting from the electrical grid and sewage system, or penalties for refusing to connect to those systems when constructing a new home. Typically, you will find far fewer regulations when purchasing property in a rural area.

• Property Taxes – The cost of annual property taxes can greatly impact not only how much land you can buy, but if living on the land long term will be affordable, especially if you have to build a home or make other improvements.

• Weather and Climate – For an off the grid homestead to be successful and sustainable, you will need adequate growing seasons.

• Crime Rate – Protecting your investment will be far easier if you live in a low-crime area as well as a place that readily permits you to protect the land yourself if need be.

• Population Density – Important if your homestead is also going to function as a survival retreat or bugout location.

• Land Quality – Agricultural grade land and natural resources, especially the ready availability of water year round, is necessary. Desert and clear-cut land is exceptionally cheap for good reason…the vast reduction or complete absence of vital natural resources.

• Low percentage of Natural Disasters – A state with a high percentage or likely chance of hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, tsunami, drought, or even volcanic eruption, are not prime locations for an off-grid homestead, even if land prices and property taxes are low.

• Cost of living – Being an off-grid homesteader means you will provide the bulk of what you need yourself, but there almost certainly will be things that have to be purchased, especially during the first several years. The state’s cost of living is important to consider so you can avoid busting your budget long before the first harvest.

• Like-minded or Self-Reliant Neighbors – When living amongst your own, or at least in an agricultural community, you will not only make new friends and contacts, you will likely be able to barter goods and services and garner useful knowledge and skills.

Some states strictly prohibit off-grid living via laws that do not permit residents to live on a piece of property not connected to the electrical grid or sanitary sewage and water system – or both. These types of law can vary not only state-by-state but within local jurisdictions in a state.

Top 10 States For Living Off The Grid
1. Maine

Zoning and state laws are agreeable to off-grid living. In non-tourist and remote areas of the state, the land is inexpensive and the population density and crime rate are low.

Natural resources such as timber, water, and rock are typically in great abundance. The growing season is short compared to some midwestern and southern states, but crop production could be increased via greenhouse and indoor growing.

2. Texas
The affordability of land in remote regions of the state is just one great reason to choose Texas for your off-grid homestead. The state boasts a long growing season in most regions, with ample timber and rock to use as building materials.

Avoid purchasing land in desert areas or you will likely struggle with water availability and experience a decrease in hunting and fishing opportunities.

3. Montana

If you do not mind the cold, Montana can be a perfect location for off the grid living. The land is affordable, population density is definitely not an issue, and state laws are agreeable with the self-reliant lifestyle. The cost of living and crime rate for the state are also favorable.

The growing season is not as long as many of the other best off-grid living states, but it possesses prime grasslands and prairies for raising livestock. Building a greenhouse to expand the growing season is highly recommended. The windy nature of the states should make it ideal for using wind turbines as an alternative power source.

Except for the grasslands region of the state, you should be able to find enough standing timber on the property for structure building, furniture making, and firewood.

4. Ohio
For some baffling reason, the Buckeye State is often completely omitted from “best off the grid living” lists. The southern part of the state boasts incredibly low land prices, low property taxes, low crime rates, an incredibly low cost of living, and an abundance of natural resources


Some counties do not even have a permit office (outside of septic tank laws governed by the local health department) or any zoning laws at all. The growing season ranges from late May through the end of October for most crops.

5. Tennessee
Property taxes are incredibly low in Tennessee. The cost of living in rural regions is decidedly budget-friendly. Hunting and fishing opportunities abound and natural resources are plentiful.

A sufficient growing season (about 260 days a year) exists in all regions of the state and the temperatures are generally mild year round. The state has some of the least-stringent raw milk herd-sharing and rainwater collection laws in the country.

6. Arizona
The climate is mild and trees not quite so scarce in the northern regions of the state. Land prices in the same region are affordable, but water availability is still likely going to be an issue.

Drilling a well, buying property with a natural spring that can be dug into a sustainable pond, or hauling water to your property will be necessary. The growing season is long and their should be ample sunshine year around to power a solar energy system.

7. Vermont
Vermont is another great state to live off the grid. Land is plentiful and affordable. Water is available and not hard to come by as well as timber and rock for building. Resources are available and zoning is open to living off the grid in most counties.

Again, stay away from the larger cities and towns to find counties which are more open to living off the grid.

8. Missouri
Not only is off-grid living completely legal without a bunch of hurdles to jump through, the State of Missouri actually encourages the self-reliant lifestyle. Residents can collect rainwater without interference, and septic systems are not required to be present at homes within the state.

Natural resources for building a home and other structures are readily available on most plots of land in Missouri. The land in the state, by-and-large, is equally good for both ranching and farming.

9. Oregon
The Cascade Mountain region and the western area of the state offer quality and readily available natural resources. Plenty of hunting and fishing is available in the region. Property prices and taxes are affordable to low. Quality timber exists on many parcels of land in the Cascade Mountain region, as well.

The state appears to be welcoming to people who want to live off the grid. Two of the largest off-grid communities in the state are in the Three Rivers Recreation Area–which operates solar energy and water supply shared systems–and Breitenbush Hot Springs, which is now rapidly becoming a tourist attraction.

10. North Carolina
The non-coastal regions of the state boast quality land at an affordable price. A preparedness and homesteading community of significant size is growing in the Saluda and Black Mountain area. Each year, Prepper Camp, which is a 3-day hands-on homesteading and survival experience, takes place in September.

Regardless of where you choose to establish an off the grid homestead, do your homework and visit (at least once) the area so you truly get a feel for the overall environment – both governmental and natural.


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« Reply #344 on: May 29, 2019, 10:43:58 PM »
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OK, but conditions during the pole crust shift, and the climate afterwards, have not been considered.  For those reasons, the states of Montana and Arizona are the only good alternatives.  I personally picked south-east Montana as the best survival location in North America, and specifically in the hills in or adjacent to the Custer National Forest near to the small town of Ekalaka.

A really good property with a creek was for sale there a few years ago but was not available when I checked a few months ago.

 

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